Armenism

[Armen]

"Armenism" is to follow my orders

[armjan]

"Armenism" is to follow my orders 

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for some reason, i like this thread.

i have never been to a party where there were less than 2 armen's.

I have never seen an armenian cell phone without an entry for armen.

It comes default right out of the cingular shop

Edited May 24, 2005 by armjan

[Armena]

I would rather be an Armenist than a christian.

[Sasun]

I would rather be an Armenist than a christian.

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Your choice of course, though it comes as a surprise to me after reading your posts in other threads. Worshipping ones nation above everything does not seem right to me. What about God, is the creator of all nations less important than the Armenian nation?

On the other hand Christianity means different things to different people. A dogmatist "churchian" may call himself a Christian, and so does someone who rejects man made dogmas and folows the original teachings of Jesus Christ.

[Armena]

Your choice of course, though it comes as a surprise to me after reading your posts in other threads. Worshipping ones nation above everything does not seem right to me. What about God, is the creator of all nations less important than the Armenian nation?

On the other hand Christianity means different things to different people. A dogmatist "churchian" may call himself a Christian, and so does someone who rejects man made dogmas and folows the original teachings of Jesus Christ.

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Dear friend sasun I don't think you know much about Armenism...

[ED]

I would rather be an Armenist than a christian.

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what does privent you from being a good both? I wonder

[Armena]

Armenism is an ethnocentric ideology with religious and political aspirations. Armenism otherwise could be described as a religious nationalism. Armenism is based upon its nine main principles deeply rooted in the creative and spiritual nature of Armenian psyche and its fascination with knowledge and wisdom. Just like many other ethnocentric religions, Armenism is peculiar and unique in its relevance to its carrier – the Armenians and Armenia. Despite being fundamentally Armenian by its origin, Armenism under special circumstances can be extended to incorporate other cultures of similar traditions and of common ancestry.

 

Armenism believes that the humanity had first originated on the slops of Mt. Ararat and surrounding land, and it is there, in the Armenian Highland humans had first began to acknowledged the existence of God, His role in the lives of humanity and the purpose of their own being. Armenism believes that this knowledge of divine and the human sense for its purpose had inspired Armenians to create the first world civilization, the kingdom of Aratta also known as Ararat, Arartun and Urartu around 6000-5000 before common era, thus setting forth the precedent for the emergence of other civilizations around the world. Arartun in Armenian means the Home of the Creator, and as such Armenism considers the entire territory of historic Armenia as the Holy Land.

 

Armenism is different from other religions by the following rituals and practices:

 

-Armenists pray every day at the sunrise and every day before the dawn facing toward the Mt. Ararat.

 

-Armenists follow the Armenian the pre-Christian Armenian calendar that was used before the advent of Christianity to celebrate their Armenian holy days and New Year, known in Armenian as Navasard.

 

-Armenists do not believe in the existence of hell, but do believe that those who don’t follow the divine Law set forth by God as they were given to Armenian forefather Hyek Nahapet will vanish into a non-existence and insignificance after their physical death, while who do follow the Law of God will become one with God and overcome their physical death.

 

-Armenism believes that all good and all evil is the work of men and is not related to anything or anyone beyond the world of our daily experiences. Armenists believe that the purpose of the mankind is immortality and transcendence to become one with God, as such, Armenists believe that the purpose of nations is to lead the rest of the humanity toward immortality, toward becoming one with God.

 

The Armenist understanding of God is very different from that of other religions. More specifically, it differs in the following aspects:

 

- In Middle Eastern (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) and many other religions god is seen physically as similar to humans. It is said that the humans were created in the shape of god. Accordingly, god is often portrayed as an old man with white beard flying over the clouds.

 

Unlike that, Armenism sees God in the plentitude and diversity of physical forms. Physically God is everywhere: in the skies, on earth, in a tree, in an ant. The world consist of God’s physical energy, also called “ar”. God may take any shape and form, including human. But the human is not the main shape of God.

 

- The Middle Eastern religions also see god as the ultimate ruler, the dictator, whose will is a rule that everybody should obey. No one has a right to disobey god’s will because this will lead to punishment by god, because god is also the judge of everything and everyone. Men are considered inferior and sinful and should fear god.

 

For Armenism, God is neither a dictator, not the judge. He is our friend and we do not need to fear Him. God is not imposing His will upon men, but only advises us on how to live our lives better and easier. God does not punish either. He has set rules for everybody and everything. These rules are embodied in the Law of God. And, unlike in other religions, humans have a choice. We may choose to follow God’s advice, i.e., God’s Law, and the better off and victorious, or we may choose to disregard the Law and play blind and be at our own risk. In this case, God will not punish us, but we will punish ourselves by making mistakes and getting into traps and hardships. But in any case the freedom of choice is always with us.

 

- In other religions men are made of clay, ashes or dirt. Most religions are humiliating man by considering him a slave or animal full of primitive instincts and sins. The Middle Eastern religions in particular went too far in humiliating man’s dignity and self esteem.

 

Armenism considers men divine beings. This comes from the fact that all man bear a little piece of God’s holy soul inside, the one that is given by God to every conscious being at birth. Given the fact that physically men consist of God’s ar and spiritually – of God’s arev (soul), men are considered as children of God. In this regard, Armenism is the only religion on the planet earth that praises and admires the human nature and preaches a belief that is encouraging humans to be better sons of God.

[Armena]

What is Armenism?

Armenism is a developing national strategy with a potential to secure the continuous existence of the Armenian nation-state, Armenian cultural heritage and the Armenian ethno-linguistic identity. Furthermore, Armenism is comprised of religious and political components designed to accomplish regeneration of the Armenian cultural, political, economic, intellectual and military capacities in the region of Caucasus.

 

The political goals of Armenism are the following:

 

- To promote the establishment of an efficient system of government in the Republic of Armenia, capable of providing sufficient public services to Armenian citizens and securing Armenia’s borders drawn up by the former American President Woodrow Wilson in 1918 and recognized by the international community under the Treaty of Sevres.

 

The economic and financial goals of Armenism are the following:

 

- To promote the establishment of a competitive economic system of market economy in Armenia, capable of providing sufficient legal framework for the development of a fair trade, proper banking and commerce that will significantly benefit the country and create large number of growing industries in Armenia capable of resolving the problems of joblessness and brain-drain.

 

-To promote the development and rapid growth of the profit generating and job creating industries in Armenia, that will propel the country to the rank of the leading nations in the world known for their advances in the fields of High Tech, Telecommunications, Agriculture, Chemical Industry, Medicine, Science, Education and Tourism.

 

The intellectual goals of Armenism are the following:

 

-To promote the establishment of a highly competitive educational system in the Republic of Armenia capable of exceeding world's educational and scientific accomplishments that will propel Armenia to the frontiers of the cutting edge science and scholarship, enabling Armenia to conduct a pragmatic diplomacy to defend its national interests in the region.

 

It is the goal of Armenism to promote the cultivation of a fertile ground for the establishment of the Armenia as the regional mega-center of advanced knowledge and applied sciences, the new Heliopolis of the world scholarship.

 

The cultural goals of Armenism are the following:

 

-To preserve and promote the Armenian cultural heritage as the guarantor of preserving Armenian ethno-linguistic identity within the Republic of Armenia and its vast cross-continental diaspora. Specific components of the Armenian identity to be venerated are: the Armenian language, history, mythology and literature, food, dances, various traditions and customs, clothing fashion, arts, music and the importance of building families to enable our nation grow and prosper.

 

For the Armenism, the significance of the Mt. Ararat and the Armenian language are that of a sacred value in the doctrine of Armenism. The beginnings of the world civilization in the Armenian Highland are that of a divine significance.

 

The military goals of Armenism are the following:

 

-To help the Armenia in its goal to accomplish sufficient military capabilities to be deployed for the defense of the country, for the defense of the Armenia's citizenry and its national interests.

[Armena]

Armenism encourages young Armenians to get married with the loved one from the opposite sex and build a fruitful and successful family. We encourage Armenians to be financially well off before getting married, and once married to have minimum 3 children of their own and adopt minimum 2 other children as well.

We believe that current low demographic numbers for Armenians in Armenia and Armenians through out the world present our nation with a dangerous challenge of being demoghraphicaly overwhelmed and driven into an extinction. Gradual extinction of Armenian people will result in the loss of the Armenian statehood and its magnificent culture that in the past gave rise to the first civilization in the world and encouraged the appearance of many other civilizations around the globe.

 

Armenian family, was and is the basic fundamental of the Armenian statehood and its national survivol, it is its strength. Thousands of years ago, Armenian family had brought forth the Armenian nation that created for us our one and only Fatherland. As such we advocate the creation and strenghtening of Armenian families. It is our destiny to live on as a culture and to prevail as a nation-state against all odds.

[Armena]

What is it?-

Armenism is a way of thinking, a worldview, an ideology, a belief. Armenism has existed since the emergence of the Armenian identity. It is a collective understanding of Armenians about themselves and their role in life and the world at large. This concept had no tangible status in the past, because there was no need for its material existence, however, Armenism had brought forth the Armenian civilization of Aratta or Ararat back in 6,000-5,000 BC, giving birth to Armenian nation, Armenian language, folklore, customs, music, literature, science, national cuisine, traditions and cultural heritage in general.

 

Through out the millennia Armenism was rather spiritual embodiment of Armenian people, collective vision about their national identity and unique belief about their collective role in the world, their national mission in life. Armenism is the concept of being Armenian, the “Armenianness”, the Armenosphere”.

 

This collective understanding of Armenian people about themselves received its shattering blow with the fall of the last Armenian kingdom, the kingdom of Cilicia in the late 1200s, due to the massive invasion of Seljuk Turks into the region of Anatolia and Mesopotamia, followed by the Armenian Genocides of 1875-1885 and 1915-1923, when more than half of the Armenian nation was brutally massacred in Western Armenia by the hands of the Turkish government and its loyal gangs.

 

Today, as a result of our devastating past not so far back ago, with the great loss of our historical homeland in Western Armenia and Eastern Armenia, with the quantitative loss of Armenian people, several centuries long Turkish oppression and collective suffering for many centuries, Armenism felt the urge to take shape and embody itself in the sacred pages of our history, to show its true potential and ability to empower Armenian people and the Armenian state with a resurrected collective psyche to ensure and secure our place in the world and live on as a nation and state through out history into the eternity.

 

Why Armenism?

 

Armenism is the way for our progress, because we believe that strong awareness of one’s national character, one’s national soul and cultural identity gives birth to strong individuals that are capable of developing a growing potential of becoming productive individuals for the benefit of the mankind. We believe that national identity of world’s leading individuals like Albert Einstein, Buddha, Mahatma Gandhi, Lev Tolstoy, Aram Khachaturian, Plato, Socrates, Mozart and many others had played a significant role in empowering them to realize their full potential as human beings, to succeed in life and extend their personally acquired skills and knowledge for the benefit of their nations, humanity, and the world at large.

 

We believe that individuals become great people in life by first developing their love, care and compassion toward their own family, friends and relatives, then toward their own nation, Homeland and eventually the mankind and the world at large. We do not think that a lone individual who is parentless, homeless and without fatherland, without anybody to care for him/her or develop affiliation with can succeed in life and become a fulfilled individual, able to contribute to the benefit of himself or those around him. We believe that from personal bonds and sense of compassion toward one’s close one comes forth the awareness for public good and welfare, not vice versa. That is, to love the world and the humanity at large, one needs to love and respect himself, his/her own family, nation and homeland first.

 

We do not consider ourselves as extremists or chauvinists, in fact we do not support or encourage that anywhere or among anyone at all, because we believe that extremism is a dangerous expressions of one’s repressed feelings and emotions, failures and personal problems, that easily blinds him/herself from the truth and the right path leading one toward the end and self-destruction with fatal outcomes to everybody else around.

 

When did Armenism begin to take form?

 

Armenism began to take form when Christianity failed to protect Armenians from the ruthless Genocide back on April 24, 1915. When the Armenian people had realized the blunder that they were living for millennia at the expense of their millions innocently dead ancestors in the Genocide while the rest of the world just watched at a distance and pity them, moreover making plots with the aggressor behind their backs. Armenism took shape under Garegin Njdeh to become known as Tseghakronutiun in the mountains of Syuniq untill the existence of the Armenian people and their republic was guaranteed.

 

Communism came and suppressed the great Armenian spirit but not for long. Back in 1965, Armenism began to recover itself through a new national reawakening on the streets of Yerevan and throughout the Armenian Diaspora resulting in the world recognition of the Armenian Genocide and setting forth the precedent toward the 1991 independence of the Republic of Armenia and the triumphant struggle for the liberation of Artsakh and the freedom for the Armenian people from the communist oppression and obscured insignificance in the dynamics of the world at large.

 

Why are you so sure about your victory?

 

We are sure about our victory because we believe that justice is an absolute virtue. We believe that justice is divine and is an integral part of what makes God who He is. Throughout the time, various people and cultures referred to God in various ways, and attributed such qualities as good, evil, strong or else, while Christianity in many cases referred to God as if a supra-natural love. In our believes, God is justice, and each receives what he/she deserves. We believe that justice is the basic law of the universal processes that governs the universe and everything in it. As such, we believe that Armenians and the Armenian Cause are on the side of justice.

 

Armenian Cause is just, and we believe that Armenians can become the guardians and promoters of justice – the disciples of the absolute truth. However being just is not enough to be victorious. Victories begin with the realization of reality and truth, and we believe that it is a reality that for the last 1700 years we were mislead by a foreign religion, which in many cases became the source of our defeats, such as the Armenian Genocide of 1915. We do not argue that Armenian Genocide occurred because of our Christian religion, but we do argue that the Armenian Genocide occurred because of our weaknesses and the source of our weaknesses we believe had roots within the Christianity itself. To not recognize this truth is to be self-defeating and self-destructive.

 

When we began first time in many centuries to think as warriors of justice, as guardians and disciples of the truth, when for the first time we began to believe that Armenia is the Holly Land and Armenians are the chosen people, we became victorious in the battlefields, we became victorious in our state diplomacy, we brought justice to our people and to our Fatherland. In Artsakh (Nagorno-Kharabagh) justice and truth had triumphed. God has triumphed through our people and through our struggle against historical injustice and the web of lies and deceit.

 

What is your opinion of the Armenian Apostolic Christian Church?

 

We support Armenian Apostolic church as a national institution, which did its best to preserve the Armenian identity, Armenian cultural heritage and the Armenian language for so many years. There are very few institutions like that in the world that would have such a long history of existence and continues work. However, the Armenian Church has one weakness, which is the religion that the church advocates, the Christianity per se. We find Christianity to be a cosmopolitan ideology that contradicts our national character, and as such, does not protect Armenian identity from assimilation. Christianity itself has brought so many divisions to our nation, particularly in Diaspora in terms of different denominations and neo-Christian cults that many Armenians went astray from their culture and gradually lost their Armenian identity.

 

An ideology that preaches of a foreign land to be a “Holy Land” and foreign nation to be “the chosen people” just contradicts to our own views about Armenia and the Armenian people, and this is where the main difference between the ideologies of Armenists and the Armenian Apostolic Church arises. We are willing to cooperate with the Armenian Apostolic Church on the national issues that may strengthen the Armenian people and Armenia. However, we cannot compromise our beliefs.

 

Do you not afraid that your ideology may divide Armenians even further?

 

No, we do not think that our ideology will divide Armenians any further, because it is our view that Armenians are so divided already, that there is no room for any greater division. On the contrary, we believe that our ideology will serve to unite the Armenians all over the world and focus their main attention, skills and knowledge on strengthening Armenia and the Armenian nation around its ethno-linguistic identity, cultural heritage, the Armenian Cause and our Fatherland.

 

Why do you oppose Christianity so much?

 

We oppose Christian ideology because we know that Christianity has nothing to do with nationalism. By its nature, Christianity is anti-national idea with a corrupt mythology stolen from the ancient Sumerians, Egyptians, Babylonians and Iranians. As a religion, Christianity does not recognize the existence of national cultures and ethno-linguistic groups. Christianity does not recognize the importance of nation-states and national borders, it does not recognize the idea of Fatherland as such.

 

Some nations tried to use the Old Testament or New Testament for their own good to strengthen their own nations and countries, yet the Armenian Apostolic Church has failed to do so, therefore, we find Christianity as irrelevant to the efforts of strengthening Armenia and the Armenian people, because it does not correspond to our national character and does not encourage the creation of a stronger Armenia.

[Armen]

Armenism is an ethnocentric ideology with religious and political aspirations. Armenism otherwise could be described as a religious nationalism.

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Armenism is the worst thing that could happen to Armenians at present. It is like inventing Judaism again.

[Armena]

Armenism is the worst thing that could happen to Armenians at present. It is like inventing Judaism again.

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Whats wrong with that?

[ED]

Whats wrong with that?

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Armena, for a short wile I was taking you seriosly

[kakachik77]

"Forgive them father for they know not what they do"

[Armen]

Whats wrong with that?

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You're going back in history. It is regression to the past. Humanity is moving from clanish relations towards regional integrity. Armenism wants to set us apart from others by creating artificial psychological boundaries. Having strong individuality Armenians can thrive and prosper in any national surroudings, integrating and enriching other societies, learning from them, while teaching them. Armenism will stop this and this will be very harmful to us. Now is our time. Globalisation, Internet, integration are as if they were created especially for Armenians. Lot of opportunities are being created all over the world to express yourself and prosper, Armenism will stop all that. Don't try to copycat Jews. Our way is very different from theirs.

[Sasun]

Armena, you are right, I didn't know enough about the theology which you posted and which is quite similar to certain Hindu theologies as well as origininal teachings of Christ (as opposed to what the church has been teaching). I will discuss about the theology later.

 

But I must tell that I am quite familiar with the nationalistic ideology and political aspirations of Armenists, and this is what I find troubling. In general, when religion becomes ideological and gets involved in politics it becomes corrupt. This is true about all religions, including the past and present churches. All religious wars and sectarian conflicts are due to dogmatism and politicization of doctrines. Now when it comes to Armenists, they are clearly against Christianity. In other words, they think they have the right to tell me that I should not be a Christian. Imagine if they come to power in Armenia, would any Christian be a happy citizen of Armenia? No. The country would separate because of an ideology. And by the way, it is simply not true when they say that Armenians are already so much divided that it is not possible to divide them any more. Armenians are united to a large degree, and it is quite possible to divide Armenians by installing an ideological, anti-Christian government. The Armenists' forum does not even allow to discuss Christianity, this speaks of outright intolerance. Like I said, they do not give choices. They are most lilely to be a repressive government if they ever succede. In other words, a Nazi government.

[kakachik77]

Sasun, this is just a cult, it's ridiculous anybody even bothers to argue with their dogmas. What are they going to do, destroy all the Christian churches and monasteries in Armenia for their dogma too. Then what separates them from Seljuk Turks?

[Armena]

You're going back in history

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Are the jews going back in history? Besides what makes you think that we're going back in history?

Armenism wants to set us apart from others  by creating artificial psychological boundaries.

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Its the purpose of the jews that much high spiritual cultures such as Armenians get assimilated and vanished, like the Assyrians and the ancient Egyptians. If we set us apart its not because we are agianst any other cultures or nations no its only multiply ourselfs more.

Having strong individuality Armenians can thrive and prosper in any national surroudings, integrating and enriching other societies, learning from them, while teaching them. Armenism will stop this and this will be very harmful to us

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No Armenism hasn't proclaimed that it will stop this, its pupose is to make us more powerfull in this world mainly with the mind...

Now is our time. Globalisation, Internet, integration are as if they were created especially for Armenians. Lot of opportunities are being created all over the world to express yourself and prosper, Armenism will stop all that

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Who says Armenism will stop all that?

Don't try to copycat Jews. Our way is very different from theirs

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My friend they are ruling the world for 2000 years now in their way the only diffrence is that they use that to manipulate people but we Armenians can use it in the proper and goodwilling way.

Edited May 24, 2005 by Armena

[Armena]

Sasun, this is just a cult, it's ridiculous anybody even bothers to argue with their dogmas. What are they going to do, destroy all the Christian churches and monasteries in Armenia for their dogma too. Then what separates them from Seljuk Turks?

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Its strange you dont speak about the hunderds of temples we had and the Christianity destroyed them 1700 years ago...

[Armena]

Armena, you are right, I didn't know enough about the theology which you posted and which is quite similar to certain Hindu theologies as well as origininal teachings of Christ (as opposed to what the church has been teaching). I will discuss about the theology later.

 

But I must tell that I am quite familiar with the nationalistic ideology and political aspirations of Armenists, and this is what I find troubling. In general, when religion becomes ideological and gets involved in politics it becomes corrupt. This is true about all religions, including the past and present churches. All religious wars and sectarian conflicts are due to dogmatism and politicization of doctrines. Now when it comes to Armenists, they are clearly against Christianity. In other words, they think they have the right to tell me that I should not be a Christian. Imagine if they come to power in Armenia, would any Christian be a happy citizen of Armenia? No. The country would separate because of an ideology. And by the way, it is simply not true when they say that Armenians are already so much divided that it is not possible to divide them any more. Armenians are united to a large degree,  and it is quite possible to divide Armenians by installing an ideological, anti-Christian government. The Armenists' forum does not even allow to discuss Christianity, this speaks of outright intolerance. Like I said, they do not give choices. They are most lilely to be a repressive government if they ever succede. In other words, a Nazi government.

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Sasun could you tell me where I can find their forum?

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[Armen]

Are the jews going back in history? Besides what makes you think that we're going back in history?

No. They are fixed on one point in history and they don't move forward. Their state is in a hopeless conflict because of that ideology.

 

I told you already why it is going back. Clan=>Nation=>Region=>World. As regionalism is the trend now, by accepting pan-national ideology it will prevent our integration into regional structures.

Its the purpose of the jews that much high spiritual cultures such as Armenians get assimilated and vanished, like the Assyrians and the ancient Egyptians. If we set us apart its not because we are agianst any other cultures or nations no its only multiply ourselfs more.

You should not be afraid of assimilation. If you are, this fear will eat your heart to the point where you will loose your initial identity. If it is our time to assimilate, we should face it. However, it is not our time now and we are far from assimilation. You have very little confidence in your nations stregth.

No Armenism hasn't proclaimed that it will stop this, its pupose is to make us more powerfull in this world mainly with the mind... Who says Armenism will stop all that?

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It will stop that because it will create an Egoist nation.

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[Sasun]

Sasun could you tell me where I can find their forum?

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I think it was this board http://p090.ezboard.com/barmenistforum . It doesn't have any threads now. About one year ago I checked once and it was plainly stated that Christianity is not allowed to talk about.

[Armena]

No. They are fixed on one point in history and they don't move forward. Their state is in a hopeless conflict because of that ideology.

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You are so wrong my friend, they are already so much further that you cannot even see it because their ideology is not linked with the body. They have worked 2000 year for this, they have nationalism with the deepest feeling of that word. Now a couple of people come here and show their new feeling and ideal concerning

their nation and people and everything what can get are hard slaps. And just for your information if you speak about Israel concerning the country, it is an arid desertlike country but is one of the richest countries in the world.

 

You should not be afraid of assimilation. If you are, this fear will eat your heart to the point where you will loose your initial identity. If it is our time to assimilate, we should face it. However, it is not our time now and we are far from assimilation. You have very little confidence in your nations stregth..

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There are two types of assimilation, 1 a wisely assimilation (with a deep aim) 2 an ignorant assimilation where people of a old and deep culture are fared and disappear meaningless. What has become with Assyrians now.

If you have a large ideal (your nation your people) and your race is no longer linked with the material body, but with the idea and philosophy then assimilation is no harm in that case it will only be a grace for our country and people.

The time which you say, of assimilation, is in our hands nobody must decide for us when we will assimilate. And indeed seeing the quantity of our people and the general mental evolution of our people we are not yet ready for assimilation.

 

It will stop that because it will create an Egoist nation.

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Let me give you a good example, when a parent sees that its child walks on a wrong path, that eventually it will damage her a lot and decides to stop her with words and if it is necessary with action, is that parent thus an Egoist? Edited May 25, 2005 by Armena

[Sasun]

Let me give you a good example, when a parent sees that its child walks on a wrong path, that eventually it will damage her a lot and decides to stop her with words and if it is necessary with action, is that parent thus an Egoist?

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Who is the parent and who is the child?

[Armena]

Who is the parent and who is the child?

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The ignorant people and the and the ones who are awakend for the truth.

 

But don't forget this saying: in the land of the blinds, the one who sees is always blamed to be wrong..