gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Yes they liberated Jarusalem christians from their lifes. Is that display of ignorance or you just think that you are cool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Is that display of ignorance or you just think that you are cool? dont you know crusaders killed also christians at jerusalem, they destroyed cyprus and attacked orthodox world. Also they attacked northern european shamanist too. I am sure their only aim was resque. It is you who is ignorant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 dont you know crusaders killed also christians at jerusalem, they destroyed cyprus and attacked orthodox world. A turk talking about killing of Orthodox christians by the Crusaders? You need help. Psychiatric help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 well we killed too so what? do this make crusader innocent? why are you so proud of armenian help to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 well we killed too so what? do this make crusader innocent? why are you so proud of armenian help to them? As I said you really need to look at history books that are not allowed to be sold in your country. Crusaders met Armenians on their way to Jerusalem. They helped us we helped them. Cilician Armenia has already been fighting with your mutant kind in Western (occupied Armenia) by the seldjucs. Memelucs were attacking Armenia from the sea and land. The Greeks tried to get Cilicia under their control and often forged alliences with our enemies (you). Your primitive mind cannot make a difference between war casualty and killing inocent civilians. Killing civilians just for the sake of the killing is a turkish patent because you are animals representing animal culture, foreign and repulsive to any reasonable human being. Therefore the extermination of your kind should be considered service to humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Well, I think you have a problem there. Every race, and minor races survived under 600 years of ottomans rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Well, I think you have a problem there. Every race, and minor races survived under 600 years of ottomans rules. Aha, so you are saying that our survival justifies your existance??? Do me a favor. Get out of here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 justify? It is our power that justify our existence, nothing more. But If you survived under western power, most probably you would be totally diminished, yes you meet a genocide comes from fasism. Just guess where did that fasism came to Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 If you are implying that fascism came to Ottoman turks from Europe you are wrong or at best liar. The Armenian genocide was the pinnacle of turkish fascism. But let’s look back before 1915. The mass killings of Balkan Christians, Greeks, and Assyrians and in late 19 century the Armenians in Cilicia, Trabzon, and the so-called Armenian vilaets attest to your inherited barbarism. Mind you, Europe has never ever heard of such atrocities in her whole history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 If you are implying that fascism came to Ottoman turks from Europe you are wrong or at best liar. The Armenian genocide was the pinnacle of turkish fascism. But let’s look back before 1915. The mass killings of Balkan Christians, Greeks, and Assyrians and in late 19 century the Armenians in Cilicia, Trabzon, and the so-called Armenian vilaets attest to your inherited barbarism. Mind you, Europe has never ever heard of such atrocities in her whole history. Gam Jan shountched mi vadner ays lagodin hed. Yes aratchin oren ir shoun ellale kidtsa yev iren esi anbadiv sedakhos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Gidem, paitz gardzum em vor ir nubadag@ kitchme darper e, yev vustakh em shudov barz glini. Indz tivanum vor "pari gamkov" yegats e. "Pari gamk" inchbes vor turker@ gu haskanan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Gidem, paitz gardzum em vor ir nubadag@ kitchme darper e, yev vustakh em shudov barz glini. Indz tivanum vor "pari gamkov" yegats e. "Pari gamk" inchbes vor turker@ gu haskanan. Yes ge garzem ays lagode kurd e, ir anunov google nayir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 If you are implying that fascism came to Ottoman turks from Europe you are wrong or at best liar. Realy? so where? ottomans were nationalist, they were not even calling themself as turk. It was europeans who call ottomans as turk. So how did this guys becomed nationalist? The Armenian genocide was the pinnacle of turkish fascism. So at pinnacle of our fasism, we killed less than others. But let’s look back before 1915. The mass killings of Balkan Christians, is this joke? It was muslims killed at balkan, It was muslim refugees firstly attacked armenians. Greeks, and Assyrians and in late 19 century the Armenians in Cilicia, Trabzon, and the so-called Armenian vilaets attest to your inherited barbarism. If we were so barbar, you would not survive so much. I agree, you suffered but who is not suffered under others rule? in how many years, you emptied muslims from karabag? Not only azeris, but muslim kurds(so exile is not only turkish) too. Mind you, Europe has never ever heard of such atrocities in her whole history. You are talking bullshit, what happened at america? at spain? australia? how many people killed at africa? how many of them slaved and carried at america? how many people went to siberia? You are totally no idea about what are you talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 In your list of the atrocities you failed to mention Chingis Khan, Huns and number of others, but why don’t you look at them in a timely fashion. In Europe and in the whole civilized world the repression of the Christians in the Ottoman empire and the mass killings of the Armenians was simply anachronism. The humanity evolved to a civilizational point where such brutal treatment of fellow human beings could only cause repulsive feelings. For that reason basically the Russo-Turkish wars erupted. Because YOUR KIND IS ANACHRONISM in the modern world. Atrocities happened everywhere but nothing, NOTHING could have been ever compared to the cruelty of the turks. Moslems repressed in the Balkans? What are you talking about? You are the invaders. No one invited you in the Balkans. No one invited you in Armenia. No one invited you in Karabagh. Go back to Mongolia, Middle East or Central Asia. How dare you talking about Moslems being repressed in the Balkans when you were the ones that enslaved the whole region for 5 hundred years. Have you ever heard about the turkish atrocities against the Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks? Hello! Have you heard of Batak and Perushtitsa? On top of it, now your kinds have full political representation in all Balkan countries although you are foreign element in the Balkans and in so-called Anatolia (i.e Western Armenia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 is this joke? It was muslims killed at balkan, It was muslim refugees firstly attacked armenians. There were also many Christian Serbs who were killed in the Balkans. The disintegration of socialist Yugoslavia was a bloody affair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 (edited) Atrocities happened everywhere but nothing, NOTHING could have been ever compared to the cruelty of the turks. Moslems repressed in the Balkans? What are you talking about? You are the invaders. No one invited you in the Balkans. No one invited you in Armenia. No one invited you in Karabagh. Go back to Mongolia, Middle East or Central Asia. How dare you talking about Moslems being repressed in the Balkans when you were the ones that enslaved the whole region for 5 hundred years. Have you ever heard about the turkish atrocities against the Serbs, Bulgarians, Greeks? Hello! Have you heard of Batak and Perushtitsa? On top of it, now your kinds have full political representation in all Balkan countries although you are foreign element in the Balkans and in so-called Anatolia (i.e Western Armenia). You said it brother Gams. Such atrocities were committed against the Armenians by the Turks that is sooooooo sickening even to mention it in here; even though I have mentioned some of them in the past. The atrocities that were committed by the Turks, no other nationality would think of so many malicious ways of torturing their own human kind. Yes, they did it to the Europeans, to the Armenians and to their so called Moslem Middle Easterns too. You have no ground Zurderer. No ground at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited April 25, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Well sources I found were mostly showing its background of Turkish.If you look link, you will see that it not Turkish but dutch. Plus in our history Tulips were highly respected, there is a ottoman period named as "age of tulips" long before european ones. do you realy aware what are you writing? If Turks were new nation created by Ataturks, how can I claim ottomans as our ancestor. Let me make it easy for you. I hope this time you understand. We were living at middle asia, and we were calling ourself as Turks. Than we came anatolia, built ottomans, and we began to call ourself as ottoman-muslim, than ottomans colapsed and Turkey built, we began to call ourself again as Turk. isnt it easy? If you guys were urartians, we are absolutely Turk. Becoming mongrels, They accomplished a lot thing, that you cannot even dream. Zoroastrianism has long history of veneration of Tulips, I do not use the internet for things which are poorly documented by internet search because bias whatever intentional or not will influence the result more so when the number of sites are limited. The documentation I provided is from archeological collections which is now in a museum. The indication of 'daughter of Armenia' of that period had also carvings of Tulips etc. The Zoroastrians in Narouz use Tulips still the tradition is preserved somehow in Iran. But what damn difference does it make? It's a flower, it was there, it's not like someone invented it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 But what damn difference does it make? It's a flower, it was there, it's not like someone invented it. Exactly! Plus, it is a mountain flower and also a spring flower! But the expert turks found them in the steppes of Central Asia ! Ha-Ha-Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Sod the horti-tulips, here's the real thang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) Check these beautiful tulips. Edited April 26, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) And here's even more!!!!! Edited April 26, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 (edited) And the above tulips are ones same as Armenia's beautiful tulips. Edited April 26, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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