as i see it (cont.) - Pt. II

[ara baliozian]

THE MESSAGE OF THE LAND

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After a lifetime of Nasreddin Hodja stories,

it’s always a pleasure to come across a new one.

Here is the one I heard this morning on Canadian radio:

Two peasants are quarreling over the ownership of a piece of land.

Both have valid arguments for claiming it as their own.

When they fail to reach an agreement,

they send for the Hodja.

The Hodja arrives, listens to both peasants,

then goes down on his hands and knees

and puts an ear to the ground.

When the peasants demand to know what he is doing,

the Hodja replies:

"I heard your side of the story,

now I want to hear the land’s side."

When he finally stands up,

the peasants ask what he heard,

and the Hodja answers:

"The land says: ‘These two are saying I belong to them;

but in reality they belong to me.’"

If our historians had been as honest as the Hodja

they would have given us a similar message.

Instead, they have been putting the blame

for all our defeats, disasters, problems and misfortunes

on others – bloodthirsty neighbors, bad geographic position,

the hypocritical West, and so on.

To do that, they have been covering up our tribalism;

thus reinforcing our image of ourselves as perennial victims.

And now, from the general to the specific:

consider this forum as a microcosm of Armenia.

What have we accomplished so far

beside trashing one another and going to sleep

with the knowledge that we have discharged our patriotic duty

by kicking ass?

[ara baliozian]

DEFENDING THE INDEFENSIBLE

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Once in a while I am reminded that

our problems are universal

and I have no right to speak of them

as if they were exclusively Armenian.

I have never done so.

I have at no time denied that our problems – from

tribalism and intolerance to fanaticism and corruption –

are not universal.

They are.

But so is the struggle against them.

Rape and murder are also universal.

Does that mean we should condone them or

accept them as inevitable facts of life?

Massacre is universal too.

Does that mean we should forgive the Turks

on grounds of universality?

(Please, note that even the Turks

have so far not used that argument.)

Now let’s consider tribalism as a case in point.

Countries like the United States and Canada

are divided and subdivided into all kinds of

races, religions, colors, ideologies, cults,

economic classes, sexual orientations, and so on.

And yet they coexist more or less peacefully and harmoniously

because there are checks and balances,

laws and amendments that guarantee

the civil rights of every citizen to the same degree that

they limit the power of those in authority.

The difference between democracies

and authoritarian power structures (such as our own)

is that by using the universality argument

we cover up our problems

and thus admit our reluctance or inability to combat them.

As a result, things go from bad to worse.

Only the blind refuse to see this,

and only the deaf cannot hear the cries

of our doubly-oppressed and victimized masses.

Hence the two "white" massacres in progress:

exodus from the Homeland and

assimilation in the Diaspora.

[ara baliozian]

UNDERSTANDING REALITY

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The future is a no man’s land.

History and reality are complex entities.

No one has all the answers.

Just because someone –

be he a pundit or a fortune-teller (but I repeat myself) –

tells us what we like to hear,

it doesn't make him right.

At the turn of the century,

our pundits (make it, fortune-tellers) told us:

History was on our side.

The truth was on our side.

Russia and the Great Powers of Europe were on our side.

God in his heaven and his army of angels were on our side.

No way we could lose.

And yet…(whoever said these two words

are the saddest words in the English language

sure knew what he was talking about).

If our aim is to understand reality,

we must be prepared to be dispassionate, objective,

and if necessary, to think against ourselves,

or at least to consider all those factors

that may not be in our favor.

Even then we may end up doing the wrong thing.

That’s because when it comes to reality

all we can hope to have is tentative answers.

The God of Reality and the God of Christians

are not one and the same.

The God of Reality sometimes favors the dumb Turk

and turns his back on the smart Armenian.

The God of History recognizes no angels and devils,

no philosophical systems and religious denominations,

no laws, conventions, and etiquette,

and least of all the predictions of pundits and fortune-tellers.

You want to be right?

Introduce your assertions with the words,

"I am probably wrong."

And if you believe passionately in what you are saying,

"I must be wrong!"

[ara baliozian]

THE MAN WHO WANTED TO KNOW HIS FUTURE:

A VERY SHORT STORY WITH TWO ENDINGS AND FIVE MORALS,

OR,

A STORY WHOSE TITLE IS LONGER THAN ITSELF

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Once upon a time there was a man

who wanted to know what his future held for him.

So he went to a fortune-teller.

The fortune-teller told him:

"You will live to be a hundred."

And the man was happy.

Next he went to a doctor who told him:

"You have cancer which, if left untreated,

may kill you within six months."

And the man was very sad.

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FIRST ENDING: The man believed the fortune-teller,

ignored the doctor, and was dead within five months.

SECOND ENDING: The man believed his doctor

and sure enough he lived to be a hundred and one.

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MORAL I: If you do the right thing, the sky is the limit.

MORAL II: Not everyone who kisses your ass is your friend.

MORAL III: To ignore reality is to dig your own grave.

MORAL IV: Illusions are luxuries even the richest man cannot afford.

MORAL V: You can't survive an hour

if you bury your head in the sand.

[ara baliozian]

WHY I LOATHE WHAT I LOATHE

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I loathe despotism

because I was myself a victim of despots.

I loathe fanaticism

because it is a creation of despotism.

I loathe lies and propaganda

because they are instruments of despotism.

I loathe tribalism because

it divides, demoralizes, and weakens the nation.

I loathe dupes because they are taken in by despots and

cannot decipher the writing on the wall.

I loathe people who speak in the name of God

but do the devil’s work.

I loathe murderers, rapists, and child molesters

because they victimize the defenseless, the weak, and the innocent.

I loathe racism because to be an Armenian

means to have been a victim of racism.

I loathe chauvinists who define patriotism

as hatred of the enemy

and they define enemy

as anyone who does not share their fanaticism.

I loathe intolerance because I experience it every day.

I loathe loud-mouth megalomaniacal fools

who parade as pundits.

I loathe bloodsuckers and exploiters

(but I repeat myself) regardless of national origin

and religious denomination….

And if you were to ask me

to make a list of all those things

that I love, admire, cherish, and enjoy,

I would have to begin by saying

that I love exposing bastards.

I love the Dialogues of Plato

and the short stories of Chekhov.

I love music – from Gregorian Chant to Verdi’s REQUIEM.

I love Elgar’s ENIGMA VARIATIONS,

the Tone Poems of Delius

and the Symphonies of Sibelius.

I love Bach’s Organ Passacaglia in C Minor,

the E-minor Prelude and Fugue ("the Cathedral")

and the Fantasia and Fugue in G Minor ("the Great’).

I love Fra Angelico, Vermeer, and Paul Klee.

I love star-gazing.

I love Jimmy Cagney in THE ROARING TWENTIES,

ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES,

and WHITE HEAT.

I love Sir Laurence Olivier’s HAMLET and RICHARD III….

as for actresses:

I am reminded of the following dialogue

between two teenage boys many years ago in Greece:

"Who is your favorite actor?"

"Gregory Peck, John Wayne, and Gary Cooper."

"And your favorite actress?"

After a long pause:

"All of them!"

[ara baliozian]

PROPAGANDA

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Propaganda speaks in the name of truth,

but truth (if it exists) is know only to God (if He exists).

The rest of us poor folk can only hope

to move in its direction by shedding

half-truths, prejudices, fallacies, misconceptions, and lies.

The only way to do that is

to engage in dialogue:

if there is one idea on which most philosophers

(from Plato to Marx) agree, this is it.

#

The central concern of power

is to legitimize itself and whenever possible

to maintain and enhance its position and prestige

even if it means to mislead, lie, cheat and kill.

#

The central concern of all thinkers and prophets

has been to expose the evil in power

and the lies that are spoken in its name.

#

As a child I was brought up to believe

Armenians are the good guys.

The rest of the world, I was given to understand,

was corrupt and evil.

I know now that to be not just

nationalist, or chauvinist or racist propaganda

but a Big Lie.

I also know that the world is ruled by Big Lies.

[ara baliozian]

THE MIDDLE EAST

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#

Colin Powel has as much chance to solve the Middle East problem

as Mickey Mouse.

Bugs Bunny: now that’s different!

#

The situation in the Middle East today

reminds me of Europe on the eve of World War II;

but in addition to territorial claims and past grudges,

you have religious differences,

which make it a vipers’ nest of feuds

that can be resolved only after both sides

have exhausted each other

and there is no more blood to be shed.

Then and only then they may kiss and make up.

#

I said "they may…"

because I think of Voltaire’s dictum:

"Since it was a religious war,

there were no survivors."

#

During lunch today

I followed several pundits (French, American, Canadian)

on the radio arguing about the Middle East.

At one point I heard one of them say:

"I can't believe my ears –

we are having this idiotic argument!

How can anyone say?…"

#

When the American said to his French counterpart,

"What is your solution to this problem?"

The French replied:

"We French are better with abstract arguments

than practical solutions."

[Laughter.]

#

When the French pundit said:

"America is the only superpower

that can afford to spend a billion dollars a day on the military

and is thus in a far better position to get involved

in places like the Balkans and the Middle East,"

I could not help thinking:

Europe can afford to fight two World Wars

within the space of thirty years,

wars during which millions died

and billions wasted,

but can't take care of its own problems

without American intervention?

#

You want to understand the Arabs?

Read T.E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia),

who was infatuated with them (and they reciprocated his sentiments);

but as an Englishman he could afford being objective

in his analysis of their character.

And the picture that emerges is far from pretty.

[Hyeflyer]

Kippling(the man who would be king) will give you a insite of the mentality of the people of the Stans.They have not changed much since his times.

[Twilight Bark]

Dear Highflier,

It is sterile to judge and pretend to analyze the traits of the people of "stans". It is important not to forget that up until 500 years ago, the flow of technology, wisdom, and "civilization" in general was from the "stans" to Europe. That wasn't because the easterners were particularly bright, and today's difference is also not because the people of Western civilization are smarter. There are major pressures generated by the scenarios created by an interplay between environmental factors and the history of the place up until that point. I know this sounds cryptic, but a good place to start is Jarod Diamond's "Guns, Germs and Steel". We tend to observe behaviors in isolation from their context, and proceed to judge the "losers" in extremely unfair terms. Mr. Baliozian positively enjoys it, and I have little patience with third-rate analysis or downright vicious untruths. Anyway, I recommend "Guns, Germs and Steel" to anyone that hasn't read it yet.

Twilight Bark

[Hyeflyer]

TBI will most certianly find this book.I am sorry but I still see the tribal mind set and behaviour of the people of the stans most the same as when Kippling was writing of his experiances of being there.I also have spent a VERY LITTLE time there and found it to be much as he wrote.It is not what you know but who you know and are affiliated with.Very tribal.But I will most certianly find this book and read it and then give a reply.

[Twilight Bark]

A small correction: The author's name is Jared Diamond (not Jarod Diamond; I can't think why I misspelled it that way).

 

The book does not address the state of "stan" countries per se. When he goes into details, it is usually about his "pet" places that tend to be more exotic and obscure than the near-east/central asia, such as New Guinea, Pacific islands, etc. It is an excellent summary of the important factors shaping human history; and they are rarely what many of us would immediately think. And he doesn't just pontificate; his conclusions are convincing because they are based on facts and solid reasoning. One caution: he tends to repeat some of the points, almost like a teacher who is worried that his pupils might forget them. But it is a must-read.

[ara baliozian]

FANATICS

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#

All fanatics are potential killers.

So are moderates, but with one significant difference:

fanatics kill the innocent,

moderates only the killers of the innocent.

#

To a fanatic, he who is innocent today

will be guilty tomorrow.

Which is what Talaat said about Armenians:

"All Armenians must die, even the innocent,

because they will be guilty when they find out

what we have done to them."

And sure enough, he was himself gunned down

by the kind of Armenian he described:

innocent today but made guilty

by his (Talaat’s) actions tomorrow.

#

Fanatics are born not made.

It is not ideologies or religions that create fanatics.

Rather, fanatics infiltrate and exploit movements,

all kinds of movements,

to satisfy their killer instincts.

Christians during the Inquisition

and Bolsheviks under Stalin

might as well be interchangeable units.

#

Because I expose fanatics,

I am accused of fanaticism by our fanatics.

They want to silence me

because they sense my aim is

to expose, ridicule, and silence them.

They use concepts like patriotism and compassion

the way Bolsheviks used Marxism

and the Inquisition used Christianity.

[ara baliozian]

PARALLELS

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Is Sharon a war criminal?

Is Arafat a terrorist?

The very same people who assert Sharon is a war criminal

also express surprise and outrage

when he lives up to his reputation.

If he is a war criminal,

why provoke him with more crimes against humanity?

I am reminded of our situation at the turn of the century,

and more particularly of our revolutionaries

challenging the Sultan to massacre,

because if he massacres

the world will be on our side.

History repeats itself.

The world is now on the side of the Palestinians

but the Palestinians,

very much like the Armenians before them,

keep dying, and the politicians keep speechifying

in the name of the dead,

and the dead are no longer in a position to tell us

what they really think.

But that’s the way it always is with the dead.

They become absent factors

and the charlatans continue to speak in their name.

They exploit the living by exploiting the dead.

I see something cynical, even sinister, in this macabre game

played by politicians and I am surprised, shocked, outraged

at the spectacle of intelligent, well-informed people

who allow themselves to be manipulated by empty verbiage.

What could be more naпve, and yes,

stupid – what could be more stupid than to say

all politicians are cynical operators except our own?

And yet, this is exactly what members of the Communist Party

said about Stalin,

the Nazis said about Hitler,

the fascists said about Mussolini,

and our own members of political parties

say about their own leadership.

[ara baliozian]

AND VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU

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There will come a time

when you will be targeted by people

who will demand that you share their hatred,

and if you react by trying to share your understanding,

they will hate you too.

That’s because hatred and understanding

are mutually exclusive concepts.

Hatred, my good friends, is a transgression

whose in-built or self-inflicted punishment is

a maimed brain,

a damaged understanding,

and a severely mangled view of reality.

#

Israel is a creation not of Jews but of anti-Semites;

and what makes it attractive to Jews today is anti-Semitism.

The more they are hated,

the more they want to cling to Israel as their last refuge,

because Israel is the only place on earth where,

if hated, they can hate right back,

and when massacred, they can retaliate.

There are those who say

this is not fair, this is not just, this is not human,

to which I can only say:

life is neither fair nor just, and as the old axiom goes,

"After all, none of us is human!"

#

Anti-Semites hate Jews

the way we hate Turks.

But what has a century of Armenian hatred accomplished?

If anything, it has enhanced Turkish prestige in the world.

That’s because hatred has prevented us

from understanding not only Turks but also the world;

and it is difficult to confront an adversary

with an injured brain

and a mutilated view of reality.

[ara baliozian]

Monday, April 15, 2002

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#

Acts of terrorism, wars and massacres are not to me

spectator sports or popularity contests,

and I don't understand those who treat them as such

by taking sides, by supporting one side against the other,

and by celebrating when one side wins.

#

A victim is a victim and a corpse a corpse

regardless of national origin.

#

Even the Americans at one point

reconsidered their position in Vietnam and gave up.

Ditto for the Russians in Afghanistan.

If all losers were to behave like the Palestinians,

there would now be wars and civil wars

in every corner of the planet

and peace would be a utopian concept

to be found only in books by science-fiction writers.

#

If we accept the concept of resistance to oppression as legitimate,

we must also accept its reverse:

the right of a state to defend itself.

#

There are philosophers and historians

(among them St. Thomas Aquinas)

who speak of just and unjust wars.

But I like to believe all wars are initiated by the lunatic fringe.

The same applies to all murders and rapes.

#

Where do we go from here?

It’s always the same story:

as long as we allow the lunatic fringe to take over

the leadership of a nation,

we condemn ourselves to be victimized by it.

[THOTH]

quote:

---

Originally posted by ara baliozian:

There will come a time

when you will be targeted by people

who will demand that you share their hatred,

and if you react by trying to share your understanding,

they will hate you too.

That’s because hatred and understanding

are mutually exclusive concepts.

Hatred, my good friends, is a transgression

whose in-built or self-inflicted punishment is

a maimed brain,

a damaged understanding,

and a severely mangled view of reality.

---

LOL - so true - I am reminded of some recent posters on this forum - recently banned..

 

BTW - some very nice thoughts here of late, dear Ara, keep up the good work...

[Hyeflyer]

Ara You exclude those of us that dislike the likes of Sharon and Arrafat they breath our air and soake up our sunshine and also share our planet!I have NO use for these kinds and would gladly help them find a way OFF. SO am I as despicable as Them? I respecet your writing and aggree with some of your ideoligys,but not all.I amm not a pacifast. So what is the ansewer?

[ara baliozian]

LATER THE SAME DAY

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#

On several occasions,

Armenians who disagree with me

have accused me of trying to promote and sell my books.

That’s what I call Levantine paranoia:

to see the profit motive everywhere.

I have also been accused of being a paid agent of the Mossad.

#

When asked to choose between one or another lunatic fringe,

I prefer the Biblical dictum: "A plague on both your houses!"

#

My loathing of despotism is such

that I'd rather live in a democratic hell

than in a despotic paradise.

#

In their efforts to prove they are nice,

some people can get really nasty.

#

Hazlitt: "If a person has no delicacy,

he has you in his power."

#

Lichtenberg: "The great with their long arms

often do less damage than their lackeys with short ones."

[ara baliozian]

Tuesday, April 16, 2002

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There are those who say

anti-Semitism is not the same as anti-Zionism

and anti-Zionism is not racism.

But I suggest anyone who hates unto death

is not in a position to make such subtle distinctions.

#

Turks hating Armenians,

Nazis hating Jews,

Muslims (also Armenians) hating Americans and Israelis:

to me they are equally repellent.

#

There are those who say to loathe racists is racist,

which amounts to saying,

to hate rapists is the same as being for rape,

and to hate murderers is to support murder.

#

There are those who assert

Ariel Sharon is a war criminal and a Nazi

exactly because he is neither a war criminal nor a Nazi;

because if he were a war criminal and a Nazi

he would do to Palestinians

what the Nazi war criminals did to his people:

he would exterminate them not by the hundred

or the thousand but by the million.

And if Sharon were to adopt a passive stance

and do nothing and allow the Palestinians to kill indiscriminately,

the very same people who now call him

a Nazi and a war criminal

would call him a gutless coward and a contemptible worm

and hate him even more.

That’s the way it is with hatred.

If love is blind,

hatred is deaf, dumb, stupid, and subhuman

to the point of being crocodilian.

#

At one time or another the Jews have been hated

by Pharaohs and Popes, Nazis and Stalinists,

skinheads and born-again Fundamentalists.

But Jews, unlike some of their haters,

continue to exist because that’s what hatred does to the hated:

it gives them a reason to persevere in order

to prove the world wrong, and to say:

"We are better than you think

and if you give us a chance

we may even succeed in proving that

we are better than those who hate us unto death."

#

You cannot prove to the hater

that his hatred is irrational and wrong

and that it harms him more than it harms his victim,

in the same way that so far mankind

has failed to prove that war and massacre,

rape and murder,

tyranny and oppression,

ignorance and prejudice are wrong.

These things have existed since the beginning of time

and a thousand messiahs, prophets and philosophers

have failed to change the mind of a single tyrant,

murderer, rapist, and racist.

#

Why do I write?

My reason tells me miracles don't happen,

but something else tells me

the universe, the world in which we live,

existence itself is a miracle,

and the act of writing itself

has something of the miraculous in it.

Perhaps the word I am looking for is hope –

the hope of making a difference…

but as always, I have my doubts….

[sen_Vahan]

"Turks hating Armenians,

Nazis hating Jews,

Muslims (also Armenians) hating Americans and Israelis:

to me they are equally repellent."

 

If you are honest in your thoughts then go through the backward direction too. Armenians hating Turks, Jews hating Nazis,... And see what you can get from that. Do not be surprised!

 

#

"At one time or another the Jews have been hated

by Pharaohs and Popes, Nazis and Stalinists,

skinheads and born-again Fundamentalists.

But Jews, unlike some of their haters,

continue to exist because that’s what hatred does to the hated:

it gives them a reason to persevere ..."

 

Yes , Dear Ara, right you are. If you open Dostoevsky's memories you will find a note about Jews where he says that he has never seen such a hatred to russian people as that from Jews. Vice versa, a?? And why is that Jews were hated in Egypt, Russia,..? one should ask this question too I guess (as well as for Armenian case).

Among VIPs that were "fried" by Stalin were Trozky, Zinov'ev, Kamenev,... all jews. And I would not say that we have simply a nationalism here.

 

"in order

to prove the world wrong, and to say:

"We are better than you think

and if you give us a chance

we may even succeed in proving that

we are better than those who hate us unto death."

 

Again, you are right. And those hating jews, as you say, did not survive whereas jews did. They appeared to be stronger than those hating them. And since hating one you make him stronger as well as hating you become stronger(you may argue that), let me just guess whose hatred was stonger - that of jews' to others or those (who did not survive) to jews.

 

Sorry for the "anti-isms".

Vahan

[ara baliozian]

ARMENIANS ARGUING

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…make it, tearing each other to shreds,

or, to paraphrase Oscar Wilde,

the unspeakable cannibalizing the uneatable…

Armenians arguing remind me of what happened to us

during World War II.

In case you have forgotten

allow me to reminisce and recapitulate:

Some Armenians fought under Hitler,

others under Stalin,

and both died (or is it, killed one another?)

in the name of two causes

that have been consigned to the dustbin of history

where they belonged to begin with.

And now let us speak of the dead:

do we remember them as heroes

or as esh nahadags (jackass martyrs)?

If heroes, then we should be grateful to both Hitler and Stalin

for allowing us to fight and die like heroes,

that is to say, like noble specimens of humanity

and thus to enhance our collective prestige

in the eyes of the world.

If jackass martyrs,

the very least we can do is learn to be martyrs

without being jackasses – without, that is,

allowing ourselves to be deceived, misled,

hoodwinked, bamboozled, flimflammed,

seduced, and sodomized by alien interests.

Now then, my good friends and gentle readers,

go right ahead,

make a spectacle of yourselves

and tear each other to shreds!

[ara baliozian]

i think it is right for a victim to hate his victimizer.

Because if he loved his victimizer, he would also love his status as victim. Absurd!

 

The Jews were hated because they could never share the nationalism of their country of adoption, and because to do so would mean for a Jew (in France, for example) to hate a Jew in Germany. There are other reasons: the best book on the subject is Jean-Paul Sartre's THE ANTI-SEMITE AND THE JEW. / ara

[ara baliozian]

WHY I LOATHE ARABS AND ADMIRE JEWS

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I loathe Arabs because they are

theocratic,

dogmatic,

intolerant,

traditional to the point of being medieval,

hidebound,

gullible (72 virgins),

superstitious (720 virgin: because he who believes in 72

will also believe in 720,

or as Hitler said: "The bigger the lie, the better!"),

authoritarian,

tribal,

undemocratic.

Because they are racists

(they hate not only Jews and Americans

but also the West, all infidels, and women –

except virgins of course, provided they are

imaginary, abstract, non-existent, metaphysical virgins

because they represent the least threatening form of femininity).

Because they are masters of the blame-game,

which means, they are irresponsible and dishonest.

I loathe them because they are perennial losers,

which means, even if they win they lose

because they divide, subdivide, and cannibalize, just as we do.

And as this final statement suggests:

I don't have to go to Arabia to understand Arabs;

all I have to do is read what our own writers

have said about us and examine my own heart.

I admire Jews because

even when divided among themselves,

they are united against the enemy.

Because they are progressive,

and not just modern

but shapers of modernism.

I admire them because they believe in democracy

and are not afraid of self-criticism –

which also means they have an open mind.

And now a short lesson in semantics:

the difference between loathing and hating:

you loathe something that arouses your disgust,

like a fly swimming in your soup.

You hate something that is a source of dread and fear,

like Ariel Sharon, and to make him even more hateful and fearful,

you call him a Nazi war criminal.

If I offended anyone’s sensibilities,

may I say like Shahan Shahnour:

"I apologize to Mount Ararat."

But if I damaged anyone’s colossal ego, no harm done.

An Armenian’s ego is the most fragile

and the most indestructible thing in the world.

You will get over it.

In conclusion:

the Arabs have nothing, absolutely nothing, to teach us.

We can learn one or two things from the Jews.

And to quote President Bush on America:

"God bless Armenia!"

[sen_Vahan]

"i think it is right for a victim to hate his victimizer. Because if he loved his victimizer, he would also love his status as victim. Absurd!"

 

As well as for the vixtimizer to hate the victim otherwise he would not victimize.Obvious. So, then again, why the victims and victimizers hate each other? jews/Germans,Armenians/Turks,...

 

"The Jews were hated because they could never share the nationalism of their country of adoption, and because to do so would mean for a Jew (in France, for example) to hate a Jew in Germany."

 

There is one problem: the hosts also did not share the nationalism of jews in their own country.

 

There are other reasons: the best book on the subject is Jean-Paul Sartre's THE ANTI-SEMITE AND THE JEW. / ara

 

Thank you.

 

WHY I LOATHE ARABS AND ADMIRE JEWS

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I loathe Arabs because they are

theocratic,

dogmatic,

intolerant,

 

Are jews tolerant?

 

traditional to the point of being medieval,

hidebound,

gullible (72 virgins),

superstitious (720 virgin: because he who believes in 72

will also believe in 720,

or as Hitler said: "The bigger the lie, the better!"),

authoritarian,

tribal,

undemocratic.

Because they are racists

 

All right. These arguments do not hold water. I understand yout personal attitude to Arabs but "democratic" jews also have a lot of traditionalism - if one is educated on Talmud and Tora, and share the thought that jewish nation is special, chosen by God, and that some day it will control the whole world (in my own words, from Bible), he/she cannot be a non-traditionalist. Democratism and modernism of jews are right but that's because they spent their tribal lives in modern, highly developed, highly cultural, rich contries such as Germany, Russia, Poland, US, Canada,...

 

"(they hate not only Jews and Americans

but also the West, all infidels, and women –

except virgins of course, provided they are

imaginary, abstract, non-existent, metaphysical virgins

because they represent the least threatening form of femininity)."

 

Well, I would not like to argue this because I see your personal emotional attitude to that culture. by the way, a culture that gave rise to blossoming spanish flamenko, Mavritanian rich culture,...

 

"Because they are masters of the blame-game,

which means, they are irresponsible and dishonest."

 

Of course, the jewish honesty is 100 %. I find it interesting, It's like a science fiction.

 

Vahan

[Hyeflyer]

My loathingshighflyer's

Small sighted people that do not realize the faults they se in others is thier own faults.

People who jude all instead of individuals.

People who can not see their own faults and express that in front of others.

The last loathing is what disarms your enemyopponants because this makes them look at theirselfs amnd they dont like what they see.