Twilight Bark Posted February 27, 2002 Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 quote:Originally posted by highflyer:To T.B. we all have things to say.Yours are as important as others comments.I sit and read ,agree with some and try to analize the rest.I feel we are intruding on Ara.I do like to read his words and have NO intention of attacking what he or you write.Tell me what board to go to so we might axchange ideas. I love exchanging ideas anywhere, including in other peoples' threads'. When we start a thread (and "as i see it" is one) it is implicitly an invitation for comments. Viewing a thread or topic as personal space is a recipe for disappointment in a public forum. Ara has the right to remain silent when confronted, and he also has the right to write a monologue. That does not make it inappropriate to comment on his posts. In any case, I don't intend to address his posts any longer unless there is some special reason.I enjoyed our exchange of ideas on many other topics, and I hope that we continue doing so.Regards,TB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 27, 2002 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Tuesday, February 26, 2002*********************************1.The fool is happy in his ignoranceand the wise is tormented by his wisdom.2.The wise have more questions than answers,more doubts than certainties.By contrast, fools have no trouble in convincing themselvesand one another that they have all the answers.3.Mankind has always been at the mercy of better organized fools.4.Wars are declared by fools and fought by the ignorant.5.There are no single-minded wise menbut many single-minded fools.6.Call me a single-minded foolwho thinks he can reason with his fellow Armenians.7.I have several friends who could have been far better writers than I,but after being insulted a few times they saw the lightand gave up in disgust.Every time I am (or my mother or grandmother is) insulted,my resolve to persevere is renewed.Call me a single-minded perverse fool.8.To understand the enemyit is necessary to be objective about ourselves.9.In the eyes of those who have been brought upon a steady diet of chauvinist crap,objectivity is anathema because it may reveal the fact thatwe are not as smart or as wise as we have assessed ourselves to be.10.An Armenian fool will never agree with his Turkish counterpart.On the day fools cease to represent us,we may have a better chance to come to terms with our enemies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 27, 2002 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 LATER [26 February, 2002]***********************************Kurds are proud of being KurdsGypsies are proud of being Gypsies.Turks are proud too.The English brag about the fact that"An Englishman cannot be a slave!"(How does an Englishman view us?Probably as a nation that allowed itself to be enslavedby the Turks for 600 years;and we retaliate by sayingat a time when the English lived like barbarianswe were enjoying a Golden Age!)And we brag about the fact thatwe were the first nation to accept Christianityand the first nation to suffer a genocide in the 20th century.As some of our own intellectuals have pointed out:we may have a cause and effect here:conversion to Christianity (cause)and being massacred (effect).Hegel tells us Christianity replaced the human master(the king or feudal lord) with the divine master.Marx said Christianity became the opium of the slaves of capital.Napoleon – no Marxist he – agreed.If it were not for Christianity, he once observed,the poor (who outnumber the rich a thousand to one)would butcher the rich."We are like sheep without a shepherd," our own Raffi said;and "Where there is oppressionthere is cowardice, ignorance, and sloth."And even more to the point:"Our clergymen preach patience to usthus promoting subservience to the point of slavery."I therefore suggest,instead of celebrating the 1700th anniversary of our Christianity,let’s go down on our knees,sing Der Voghormia for the last time,and rise as born again human beings:"Because only the free manis in a position to discover the benefits of freedom," (Raffi). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 27, 2002 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2002 Wednesday, February 27, 2002*********************************1.When I was young I was unteachable.Hence my allergy to all whippersnappers and phony pundits.There is an old Spanish saying (could be Brazilian or Bedouin):"Women and horses: let someone else tame them."And I say: "Horse’s asses: let a shrew tame them, and vice versa."2.In the memoirs of an American writer (I forget his name)I remember to have read (I will paraphrase):"Never hesitate to look your accuser in the eyeand shake his hand even if he happens to bethe worst sonofabitch in the world."And I remember my father (Ottoman background) saying:"Next time a bully comes near you,kick him in the balls as hard as you can.Don't worry about permanent damages,I will pay for them."Speaking for myself:I prefer the Chinese approach:"Of the 36 (or is it 72?) ways, avoidance of confrontation is the best."3."The true source of wisdom," Socrates tells us,"is not knowledge but moderation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted February 28, 2002 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2002 LATER [27 February, 2002]********************************1.Take yourself seriously and provoke the ridicule of a thousand.2.I don't look for enemies; they find me.3.An Armenian who is about to lose an argument turns into a Turk.4.A 17th-century American writer once observed that,just because a man is not bought and soldit doesn't follow that he is not a slave.Likewise, just because we silence criticsit doesn't follow that we are not vulnerable to criticism.5.When a chauvinist who recycle craps says:"Criticism must be constructive!"what he really means is:"If recycling crap is good enough for me,how dare you think otherwise?"6.It was Kant who said that very oftenignorance is nothing but cowardice in the face of knowledge.7.Something to remember and repeat:Self-criticism is not unpatriotic. Silencing criticism is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 FROM A MANUAL OF ARMENIAN CHAUVINISM*****************************************************1.Always proceed from the assumption thatArmenians are morally and intellectual superior.No need to say we are the Chosen Peoplebut make it abundantly clear that it is such a self-evident truththat it doesn't need to be stated.2.When accused of racism point out the fact thatas victims of racism we can't be racists.3.Every idea is open to contradiction.Contradict even when it makes little or no sense.The less sense you make the sooner your antagonist will quit.4.A really smart person does not argue with a fool.Do not hesitate to make a fool of yourselfor, for that matter, to go down into the gutter.A fool in the gutter can be a formidable forcethat can drive even the most knowledgeable antagonistto despair and ultimately silence.5.If you can't contradict the idea, insult the man.6.The purpose of an argument is not to engage in dialoguebut to silence the enemy,and whenever possible, to destroy him.7.Dialogue is a non-Armenian conceptand anything that is non-Armenian must be considered anti-Armenian.8.Blame all our problems on others,beginning with the Turks, the Great Powers, the Soviets (KGB),the Americans (CIA) and the Jews (Mossad).Since these are secret agencies,anything can be imputed to them without fear of contradiction.9.On the subject of Armenian criminals:attack the justice system because there is no such thingas a perfect institution or law enforcement agency,and everything that is human is fallibleand therefore vulnerable to criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 1, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2002 Thursday, February 28, 2002 ****************************** 1.Where there is censorship there will be fear: fear of knowledge; fear of objective judgment; fear of honesty; fear of excellence and originality. Where there is fear you will also find cowardice. 2.When I think of all those writers and thinkers who were silenced and the strident voices of fools who are everywhere in our media and discussion forums, I want to hand in my resignation as a member of the human race. 3.How different things would be if, instead of speaking of a Golden Age buried in the past, we were to live as if it were in the near future. 4.Men speak as if they valued freedom above everything else but live as though nothing gives them more pleasure than to surrender it to sex, money, power, prestige, a closed system of thought, to the lies of priests and mullahs…. 5.It has been said that the sensitive person is always at the mercy of the rude. Something similar could be said of the wise and the loud-mouth ignoramus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 CANNIBAL PATRIOTISM********************************Whenever I come across a vitriolic messageby one of our phony superpatriots(not necessarily the ones that are addressed to me)I think of Zarian’s words:"Armenians survive by cannibalizing one another,"and "An Armenian’s tongue can be sharper than a Turk’s yataghan."I sometimes wonder,what happened to these sharp-tongued Armenianswho cannibalized Zarian?I assume they are dead and buried by now,but their children and grandchildren carry on the family tradition,all the while bragging about their superior brand of Armenianismwhich they inherited from their fathers and grandfathers,sometimes even from their mothers and grandmothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 CONTRADICTIONS***************************1.When we say we are victims of Turks,Turks say they are victims of Armenians.When we say Turks are liars,they say Armenians are liars.When we say they are killers,they say we are terrorists.Now I know where some of my readers got their spirit of contradiction.2.The difference between a civilized Armenian and a Neanderthal is that,the first says "I disagree with you," and the second calls you an idiot.3.Among us killer commissars are not a political phenomenonpeculiar to the defunct USSR but a speciesthat can adapt to all climates and continents,including the United States of America.4.An Armenian who has failed to change the mind of a single Armenianthinks he can change the mind of a state like Turkey and the UnitedStates.Figure that one out if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sen_Vahan Posted March 2, 2002 Report Share Posted March 2, 2002 Talkng to my friends at Moscow Universities I get to know that they did not go home (to Armenia) for a long time. Why? Because they will be forced to join the Army Forces right after the arrival in the Airpot Zvartnoz. One way to overcome this problem is to pay money(illegaly).What's that a corrupted patriotism or a manifestation of the "equal rights of all the citizens"? Another person working in Petersburg told me after a vacation in Armenia that he will never go to Armenia again. Why? "There is a corruption beggining the Airport Zvartnoz. After the arrival you feel yourself an enemy of your own country. It is good for foreign people to go to Armenia but not for us." That what can one hear constantly from those who visit our country.  On the other hand, Armenians that go to Turkey never will tell you something like that. They like everything in that country! When I go to Russia or US i see a lot of Armenians that TRY to speak Russian and English and ignore their fellow Armenians."Mard hayeri het piti gorts chunena":they say.What the hell is going on? And we talk about the christianity and our old culture? Maybe we like the "idea of Armenia and Armenians" but not the people? Vahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 3, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2002 GENTLE READERS***************************1.If you itch to judge a writer,it’s safer to choose a dead one.You never know how a living one may react."How dare you madam! -- how dare you criticize my books?"an English writer is quoted as having said:"My books are my children.How would you feel if I were to criticize your children?"2,Some readers assume writers to be timid creaturesafraid to alienate or lose even a single reader.Speaking for myself:there is a type of reader I go out of my way to lose –a type I call "carcinogenic agents."3.There is another type of reader whoafter criticizing or insulting you once,spends the rest of his life proving thathe was right to insult you.With such a reader I can truly say thatI have achieved immortalityeven if the immortality is of the negative variant.4.To readers you complain that I amconsistently negative, predictable and repetitive, I ask:"Do you go to church every Sundayin the hope that you will hear the preacher speak in favor of sin?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 4, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 ON AN -ISM***************************1.Militarism is a belief system that says, in effect:If you can't change the mind, change the map.2.History tells us, sometimes it is easier changing the mapthan changing the mind.3.I leave it to the Napoleons of the world to change the map.All I want to do is understand myself and my fellow men.You may now call me a megalomaniac.4.For every Napoleon there are thousandswith Napoleonic complexesand millions with Napoleonic ambitions.5.Every child in America is brought up to believethe Presidency is open to him;and the President is referred to as the most powerful man on earth.But the truth is, he is as much a prisoner of the systemas the rest of us. Perhaps even more so.Almost every other married man misbehaves with a Monicawithout making headlines in the media for monthsand without running the risk of losing his job….6.There are stories that walkand stories that refuse to budge.Monica’s blow job and Condit’s affair --the first, a victimless crime (or is it sin?),the second, one probable victim --are examples of stories that walk.And now compare these two stories with our Genocide(that claimed millions of victims).You may now call me a cynic!7.And now, name an Armenian who was successfulin changing the mind of a single Armenian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 4, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2002 Sunday, March 03, 2002*********************************Armenians are stubborn, we are told.Are we?I am not sure.I have my doubts.Observe the ease with which over a million Armeniansemigrated after independence,not only because conditions deteriorated in the Homelandbut also, and above all,because they realized they were at the mercyof a regime that was beyond reform.And observe the ease with which an Armenian of the Diasporais alienated and opts for assimilation.Result: in troubled times,the scum rises to the top.On a more personal note:After calling my mother a whoreand accusing my grandmother of giving blow jobs to Turks,one of my gentle readers writes:"The problem with you is that you lack diplomacy."Now, I know many Armenianswho after being exposed to this type of verbal abuseby a fellow Armenian would have quit in disgustand placed a safe distance between himself and all things Armenian.I didn't and I don't intend tobecause it is one of my pet projectsto expose Armenian stupidity against whicheven the dumbest Turks cannot compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 5, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Monday, March 04, 2002********************************1."The starving Armenian" has become a cliché in the West.We reinforce that cliché when we stress the Genocideor when we reduce Armenianism to anti-Turkism.2.What could be easier and dumberthan assessing others negatively and ourselves positively?And yet, we do it all the time,and by "others" I don't just mean Turks but the world at large,including Armenians who don't share our fallacies and fantasies.3.Have you noticed that those who speak of positive or constructivecriticismwill crap on you the first chance they getor when they think you have stepped out ofan imaginary line drawn by their warped minds?4.When writing against barbariansone should wield a civil pen.May I confess that I have not always been successfulin that endeavor perhaps becausesome barbarians tend to confuse civility with weakness.5.To speak of patriotism and to speak the truth are not always synonymous.On the contrary.One could even say that the greatest enemy of patriotismis not treason but objectivity.6.If and when the multiplication table becomes a political issue,we will disagree on it too!7.If Armenians are smart,why is it that there are a great many Armenians out there(85% according to some estimates)who don't think it’s smart being Armenian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 5, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 DOGS********************1.When a dog barks,others dogs are sure to join him.Likewise, when an idiot speaks,other idiots are sure to echo his sentiments.The same applies to partisans.Knowing this, partisans now hide their membershipand pretend to be chezok (non-partisan).And since they have a very low opinion of their fellow Armenians,they think their ruse is foolproof.P.S. I apologize to all dogs for comparing them to idiots.I apologize to dog owners too.2.If reason cannot move an Armenian,what is it that makes an Armenian think(if you will forgive the overstatement)that it can move the Turkish State or the U.S. Government?I have said this before, but it bears repeating.3."Armenianism is what I say it is!"There you have it, the source of all our disagreements, controversies,and divisions.4.Odars don't need to underestimate us.We do it all the time.5.There is a type of Armenianwho keeps aiming at the Turks(the focus of all his hatred and cannibal instincts)but succeeds only in hitting Armenians.6.Recycled crap cannot be contradicted, only identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sen_Vahan Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 "For every Napoleon there are thousands with Napoleonic complexes and millions with Napoleonic ambitions." You are so right! "The genius is doing what he must do, the talent is doing as much as he can, others just imitate." You say that people in Armenia left the country after the independence mainly not because of hard situation in economy. I do not agree, as I remember the majority did it because of lack of job. Moreover, a lot of men went to Russia, US, Ukraine to work and left their families in homeland. Later they took their families to those countries after they found a good place to work. Vahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sen_Vahan Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 Dear Ara Baliozian,In your "Unpopular Opinions" you write :".... After 600 years of brutal Ottoman tyranny, a literary renaissance in Istanbul; but after 60 years of freedom in America (and with millions spent on schools, churches, centers, libraries, museums, and university chairs) not a single Armenian-language writer or editor"These are all facts that cannot be denied. But 600 is much larger that 60! And can I ask you what did Armenians give after the first 60 or even 160 years in the Ottoman Empire? Who knows what will happen after 300 years in the US. "Wait and see."And why do think that years of freedom could give rise to the brilliant art? Many countries have the full freedom for many years already, do they give a great literature? Does Russia, for example, give excellent writers now? As people say there is only one writer now in Russia - Solgenizin(who was the product of 1930s) Is that possible that freedom makes things worse in that sense, make people relax? And is that possible that it is a more general problem but not only for Armenians?Vahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by sen_vahan:And why do think that years of freedom could give rise to the brilliant art?I offer you two possibilities:1. He is an intellectual mouse that thinks he is a lion. In other words, he is simultaneously too simple and too arrogant to see the obvious.2. He thinks his audience, being Armenian, is too primitive and crude to notice the silliness of his strategically inserted untruths. Sorry I broke my pact to hold my silence. I am not sure I have a "specific reason". Vahan, it's all your fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 quote:Originally posted by sen_vahan:Who knows what will happen after 300 years in the US. "Wait and see."Some of us plan to live a little shorter than that . Seriously though, in 300 years almost the entire Armenian diaspora in America will have disappeared. A sad but depressingly high probability. Unless there is a strong barrier (such as religious incompatibility with the host population) to assimilation, the Armenian-American diaspora will simply disappear as a distinct identity. Sure, the descendants of today's Armenians will be all these wonderful things, but not as "Armenians" but as "Americans". Part of the reason for it will be the shortcomings in the Armenian culture that our resident super-genius untiringly repeats. Anyway, in 300 years, the world culture may homogenize into one big blob already. My current belief is that Armenian culture deserves to remain distinct. But my belief won't tip it one way or the other . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyeflyer Posted March 5, 2002 Report Share Posted March 5, 2002 T.B. In 100 years half the earths population will have lost its ethnic identity.In 200 years three quarter. In 300 we will be the united earth federation.The star wars star trek design.:)Globalization and as many seee it degeneration.But then there will be no ligitamit reason for predjudice.So then there has to be a new whipping boy.Who will it be? That could lead to a world of two legged pirhanas that are not ethnicly motivated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted March 6, 2002 Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 quote:Originally posted by highflyer:In 300 [years] we will be the united earth federation.It would be nice if it were a federation. It would imply that it had distinct parts of which it is a federation. Let's hope so. quote:But then there will be no ligitamit reason for predjudice.So then there has to be a new whipping boy.I surely hope that humanity evolves to a stage where the absence of anyone significantly different from the "norm" is not required to keep the peace. A "peace" that is based on the elimination of cultural differences is fake and covers up the underlying ugliness that remains. Not much different from the age-old "peace by extermination". Only this time the exterminated are not individuals but their ancestral identity. If we arrive at a "world culture" that universally cherishes and celebrates differences, now that would be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 6, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 FRACTIONS******************************"I disagree with you" often means"My set of experiences are different from yours."I have at no time suggested thatI represent the alpha and omega of the Armenian experiences.The best I can do,and the best anyone of us can hope to do,is speak of a tiny fraction of it.Let me go further and say thatI think of the Armenian experience as a vast mosaicof whose real size we have no conception.Only by comparison, classification, and juxtapositionmay we be able to discern a pattern emerging.By speaking of my own experiencesI am not in any way suggestingthey are more important, authentic or symptomatic of the whole.None of us is qualified to make such an unwarranted assumptionand if I have ever done that in the past,please feel free to reject my evidence as inadmissible.On the other hand,if I were to ignore my own experienceand accept yours as the last word on the subject,the conclusions I reach would be more akin to fiction than reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 6, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2002 Tuesday, March 05, 2002**********************************1.There is a type of Armenian who thinksall it takes to qualify as a geniusis to identify himself as one,and if he can do it with the support and blessingof his mother or grandmother, so much the better.Please be warned thatif you ever dare to doubt these credentials,you must be prepared to acquire an enemy for life –an enemy with the ego the size of an elephantand a memory that goes with it.2.Differences of opinion will be found everywhere,including the most civilized environments, as well asthe best of families and friends.But there are differences and differences, of course.Some of our tribal and personal differencesare more like those of crabs, scorpions,tarantulas, and sea snakes confined in a basket.3.We place too much emphasis on mental or intellectual IQsand completely ignore moral IQs.And yet, if you think about it,most of our problems are created by individualswith higher than normal IQsbut with single-digit or non-existent moral IQs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ara baliozian Posted March 7, 2002 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2002 THE OTTOMAN FALLACY**********************************The past is one but there are many versions of it.To say that one version is 100% true blueand all others phony is, what I call,the Ottoman fallacy.But the Ottoman fallacy is not restricted to Ottomans.All nationalist or partisan versions of the past or,for that matter, any version that pretends to beobjective, impartial, and not dictated by self-interest,is bound to be more or less false.It follows, to know only one version of the pastis not knowledge but a form of ignorance or negative knowledge.Negative knowledge is worse than ignorancebecause man does not kill or diein the name of something he doesn't knowbut is more than willing to do so in the nameof negative or false or biased knowledge.Hence the old adage:"A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."A man who thinks he is committing a heroic deedor fulfilling his patriotic duty by killing a fellow manis one who has been exposed to only one version of the story --a version that he has been brought up to believeis the whole truth and the only truthbut is nothing of the kindbecause the truth is known only to Godand is destined to remain beyond our reach;and those who say they are acquainted with the truthbecause they sit at the right hand of Godare the source of all lies, and by extension,wars and massacres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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