Why dont guys like to stay true to their girlfriends

[nautykuro]

i just found out that my boyfriend has been doing some things behind my back but for some reason i cant get it out of him every time i ask him he denies it i dont know what to do?

 

[ November 24, 2001: Message edited by: luco ]

[Harut]

lav giniov harpetsnum es, u amen inch khostovanum e.

 

vay, es inch asetsi!!!???

hesa esteghi bolor tghaner@ indz mi lav tsetselu en.

gaghtnik@ batsetsi.

[MosJan]

lucoJan Welcome to HyeForum.

sorry i can not help you you might need to ask Gayane for help

 

HArout jan es inch es anum Karora gites KAMON/a et xerch tren ?

Qez mi hat Derin Qard.

 

MOvses

[Harut]

@nduneli e.

anpatjar arjhani em deghin qarti.

[Kazza]

Join the club darling, join the club. Theyr'e all the same and nothing can change that. I know that my EX boss's wife had problems with her husband's colleagues ringing him, and she told me he'd been "at it before" why does that not surprise me in the slightest. But here are a list of things you should do:

Things.

1. Tear his pants off and laugh at his size

2. Make sure he catches you in the dressing room with the Gorgian football team, and say, "whoops! I just tripped!"

3. If you are married, take him to the cleaners

4. Go to the pub, or find out wherever he is with his birds, and go dressed as Coco the clown and EMBARRASS him.

5. THEN divorce/or leave him.

[ThornyRose]

Poor girl... I think you might try Kazza's prescription or... or... give him an ultimatom... http://www.network54.com/images/tongue.gif

[nellie]

hi luco, sorry about your problems.

the guys gave u some really good advice, but do u really want to know exactly what happened? isn't that going to hurt u even more?

i say, he doesn't deserve u, nor does any other guy who doesn't respect u.

don't give him another chance, he'll just take advantage of it.

just laugh in his face and go your own way.

pretend u don't give a shit, then he'll be sorry.

[dragon]

I don't give him a shit either

 

Getsen hayots aghchikner vor sirvin odarneren payts ge khapvin irents seren zi dghanern mer haygazoun chen kider ser-miyoutiun

[Kazza]

*giggles* well it's true though! Or mabye the idea of the ultimatum is the more sensible and down to earth one.

Was the spelling of ultimatum delibarate? UntimaTOM, TOM cat, get it?

[Kazza]

*giggles* well it's true though! Or mabye the idea of the ultimatum is the more sensible and down to earth one.

Was the spelling of ultimatum delibarate? UntimaTOM, TOM cat, get it?

[ThornyRose]

No, I made a mistake... Actually, it's natural (of me) since, in Turkish, the word is adapted as "ültimatom"...

Ultimatum. Spell that 100 times to learn, Thorny.

[Kazza]

no, I preffer the other spelling, TOM CATSSSSS! Let us stick to that one!

Aww, If your'e ever in London one day we should meet each other! It would be nice if you come with me on friday!

[ThornyRose]

Now THAT is asking for too much. Not only have I to ever make it to London, but I have to be there on the Friday, too... LOL...
Thanks.
I currently have my cousin's husband there in the UK (in Leicester, I think), and he's dreading it (weather-wise). (Actually, it's not too good here, either, this year.)
He and his pals rented a flat in a neighborhood where there are a lot of Pakistanis, and I think he'll have some interesting stories to tell by the time he gets back. I already overheard one - one concerning some alarm somewhere in the building that rang because of them - and they didn't know what to do about it (because we don't have that system - whatever it is - in Turkey). It rang for 45 minutes until someone got out to help them...

[Kazza]

Perhaps your'e not missing too much weather wise (Especially now it's november, and it get's dark at 4.00pm!) but there are some very good museums in the centre of London, that might be of some interest one day If you ever decide to come to England. i think I have some relatives Oooop Noorth to (In Manchester, quite near to Leicester) They talk funny Instead of saying f.uck like us posho southerners they say fooock. And we say barrth and they say bAth.

[THOTH]

quote:

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Originally posted by Kazza:
[QB]
Join the club darling, join the club. Theyr'e all the same and nothing can change that. [QB]

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Kazza -

While this may be your experience (perhaps its the "crowd" - though I know its more then just that...these types are everywhere) - but I object to this as a universal statement (that all men are the same)- not everyone is dishonest and not every guy is just ruled by his dick without considertion (or love/integrity) for his partner. Another perspective though is that (at least until married) there is no actual ownership - the strength of the exclusivisity "contract" is perhaps open to debate - but should certainly be made clear/resolved up front (and lived up to) - everthing is better that way (I've been in quite enjoyable/advantageous open relationships before - its all a matter of personal taste and situation and expectations/type of relationship) - IMO

And dear Luzo (did I get the name right?) - my advice to you - don't cheapen yourself (by being hurt by some *******) - have some dignity. If this guy thinks he is better then you (and/or you don't want to put up with his crap) - dump him - right away - or if for whatever reason you wish not to - certainly make sure that his stanfdard(s) apply to you as well (if this is what you might want) - one sided though - no good. Don't worry about all this other (revenge/get even stuff) - its a waste of time (IMO). Find a guy who meets/exeeds your expectations - and define the relatinship in a manner that you are happy with. The world is full of good people (as well as the other admittedly) - set your standards high (as you deserve) - and whatever you do - don't grovel...please.

[Kazza]

Winston,

I do beg your pardon. Sorry, when I said "theyr'e all the same" I didn't mean that all men were bad , dishonest, bad husbands, etc. But what I did mean was that most men, like most women(other wise they would'nt have anything to do it with-sheep maybye in Azerbaijan! lol) have been unfaithful to a partner, spouse, at some point in their lives. And even I don't really beleive that's wrongconsidering what the circumstances are. Wel, it is a betrayal of trust and very very hurtful but what you've got to remember is that it happens all the time, and also it is a very personal form of hurt, don't take it too personally...It's not always because the partner doesn't love you any more, but it could be just because it happens/he thought he could get away with it /she's an emotional ****wit.

yes It has been my experience, but so have 99.99% of the population too. Anyone who says they haven't been hurt before is lying.

And to Luzo-Amen to what Winston just said! Taking the dignified approach, that's always better than game-playing, if you are strong enough for that.

[Kazza]

Winston,

I do beg your pardon. Sorry, when I said "theyr'e all the same" I didn't mean that all men were bad , dishonest, bad husbands, etc. But what I did mean was that most men, like most women(other wise they would'nt have anything to do it with-sheep maybye in Azerbaijan! lol) have been unfaithful to a partner, spouse, at some point in their lives. And even I don't really beleive that's wrongconsidering what the circumstances are. Wel, it is a betrayal of trust and very very hurtful but what you've got to remember is that it happens all the time, and also it is a very personal form of hurt, don't take it too personally...It's not always because the partner doesn't love you any more, but it could be just because it happens/he thought he could get away with it /she's an emotional ****wit.

yes It has been my experience, but so have 99.99% of the population too. Anyone who says they haven't been hurt before is lying.

And to Luzo-Amen to what Winston just said! Taking the dignified approach, that's always better than game-playing, if you are strong enough for that.

[THOTH]

OK Kaz - I think we are on the same page (I just originally took it as a blanket statement regarding men) - and as I have never ever been dishonest (not at all in may nature)....well, you can understand my not wishing to be branded as such.... I also agree most?/many? - ? men are creeps (or are at least inconsiderate [of any but themselves]...based on my observations (including of myself at times unfortunatly...though I do at least try...) - though, of course I've never dated one (a guy) to really know how bad it is...LOL (and yeah, gals can be (selfish/inconsiderate/ruled by hormones/unthinking etc) too...though I've had pretty good fortune I guess...though not batting 100% [is this a cricket term as well as with baseball?])....

[THOTH]

quote:

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Originally posted by Kazza:
Perhaps your'e not missing too much weather wise (Especially now it's november, and it get's dark at 4.00pm!)

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The worst part of winter don't you think - get up - its dark - come home - its dark...(and of course - for some of us - work most of the day inside...without a window...even worse...)

quote:

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Originally posted by Kazza:

but there are some very good museums in the centre of London, that might be of some interest one day If you ever decide to come to England. i think I have some relatives Oooop Noorth to (In Manchester, quite near to Leicester) They talk funny Instead of saying f.uck like us posho southerners they say fooock. And we say barrth and they say bAth.

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I think I get the barrth & bAth pronunciation differences...but just how is it you say f.uck? LOL

[Kazza]

Well this is it. I think women, although their ****wittage is less often, (men tend to do it in a hormone, driven way) women can be bitchy and do with via emotional manipulation. But less of the generaliasation on my part. Men can be SO manipulative, often to get thir way bedroom wise, money, kids, and often phisical abuse that's the really sad part. But What I was saying is haveing the confidence to realise, that if it does happpen t you, not to think it's your fault as you often do. It's to do with the cheating partner and whatever's going on in their head . Many think, is it me? Was I alsways startng the fight? Am I ugly? Was I crap in bad? But there is nothing wrong in admitting that it DOES hurt, although by showing it in an undignified way, bawling in front of him, slashing his tyres, will just show a lack of confidence. But we are human beings with feelings.

So It's good you are lucky, but it did take some work, and trying in past relationships to realise that. I look back on my past experiences, and at the time I was thinking, "why do i have to be going through this. I didn't do anything to deserve this" But i realsie now it's not a case of that. These exeriences are sent to test us. I look back now and think, I am glad this happenned to me, otherwise I would have never learnt from it and I wouldnt have come out a better and stronger , and more substantial person.

[Kazza]

The worst part of winter don't you think - get up - its dark - come home - its dark...(and of course - for some of us - work most of the day

inside...without a window...even worse...)

 

YES. And when you come iut of a room, where you can't even look out of the window, you walk slap bang in the middle of the dark (Is that the time already???!)

 

 

 

but there are some very good museums in the centre of London, that might be of some interest one day If you ever decide to come to

England. i think I have some relatives Oooop Noorth to (In Manchester, quite near to Leicester) They talk funny Instead of saying

f.uck like us posho southerners they say fooock. And we say barrth and they say bAth.

 

I think I get the barrth & bAth pronunciation differences...but just how is it you say f.uck? LOL

 

LOL Well, It's like us, we speak a bit more posh, but some REAL proper posh people, they'd say "Fack. Fack. My cocktail dress is ruined. Fack" at a society charity event.

 

We say

LoNDENER:

Hello how are you, were you down the pub last night?

 

NORTHERNER:

Eeee, by 'eck Ashley Lad. It were a reeet good sooop (sup) last night

 

P.S, that was a georgian FOOTBALL team. Always the best. Their legs!

 

[ November 28, 2001: Message edited by: Kazza ]

[THOTH]

quote:

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Originally posted by Kazza:

Well this is it. I think women, although their ****wittage is less often, (men tend to do it in a hormone, driven way) women can be bitchy and do with via emotional manipulation. But less of the generaliasation on my part. Men can be SO manipulative, often to get thir way bedroom wise, money, kids, and often phisical abuse that's the really sad part. But What I was saying is haveing the confidence to realise, that if it does happpen t you, not to think it's your fault as you often do. It's to do with the cheating partner and whatever's going on in their head . Many think, is it me? Was I alsways startng the fight? Am I ugly? Was I crap in bad? But there is nothing wrong in admitting that it DOES hurt, although by showing it in an undignified way, bawling in front of him, slashing his tyres, will just show a lack of confidence. But we are human beings with feelings.

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Yea - very well said. I think your right - the degree that men manipulate women to get their way (and the manner - often physical/threatening, sometimes more inocuous - just by being the blubbering dumb lard...etc...honey - fetch me a beer etc) is I think often more ignored by society - which tends to concentrate on the manipulative behaviors of women more so (and their behaviors are perhaps more evident - as they have had to act in certain ways - traditionally - to get their way or what they want - since they were reletively powerless....). Somehow I don't think beautiful women were ever totally powerless in societies...

quote:

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Originally posted by Kazza:

So It's good you are lucky, but it did take some work, and trying in past relationships to realise that. I look back on my past experiences, and at the time I was thinking, "why do i have to be going through this. I didn't do anything to deserve this" But i realsie now it's not a case of that. These exeriences are sent to test us. I look back now and think, I am glad this happenned to me, otherwise I would have never learnt from it and I wouldnt have come out a better and stronger , and more substantial person.

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Yea (again well said) - though sometimes ignorance is just best - is it not?...LOL.

[Kazza]

Well, no, beautiful women aren't always powerless in societies, BUT men often twist things according to their own fntasies. For example, If they see a nice beautiful woman, then they think "cor!" I's like to give her one! Then they boast to their mates about how she fancied HIM and she was all over him, and she was trying it on. Then people don't beleive her because they think in the back of their minds "Well, becaus e she's attractive, it must be true because she has a swell head"

 

 

No, it never is. Not for me.

[THOTH]

Yea - I understand how even beautiful women have had perhaps narrowed choices and such...and again the tilting of things into the mans favor...etc

 

For all of that - and for even some of the current inequities in expectations/accepted behaviors/career possibilities/equal pay etc etc etc - don't you think that now is about the best time to be a women ever in history? I would certainly think so (as compared to past environment...and that existing in Talibanistan and the like....)

 

All that being said I must say a here here for short skirts (or at least the ones with the nice long slit up the side...show it baby!) LOL, tight tops, high heels and all that other good stuff that men (moi included) like so much and a "heres to ya" to all the gals who work so hard (to keep us hard)...and the like....what can I say....? (red faced perhaps - but honest....