nairakev Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 It is just regretfull, that vulgar topics are discused at Hye Forum.I don't really understand what do you mean. Sorry! May be I'm too stupid! Heh, after all most of women should be stupid, right? Atractions of White, Black, Yellow, Brown men? How can there be a uniform defenition of atractions, when peole have different tastes and preferences? Who defines what is atractive what is not?Good questions. You know a part of my answers. I'm waiting for your part. If there is no uniform definition. Tell me , then. It is a discussion! Did you express so jelously in "Humour" section on vulgarity topic! Normaly I do each day in my real life so many "vulgar" things. I just live with my sexual preferences. I'm doing what I like, without explaining anything, like many of us, I guess! What do you think I spent my whole life on forums, meeting different jerks, who got stinky brains ... If you wanna know this is not my prefered thread. Because there is nothing to discuss actualy, besides affirming that all we said is vulgar. When you caress a woman, or you hold her on your legs , if she says "I want you to lik me, baby!"What are you saying:"Oh, know let's stop it, honey!It is actually so vulgar. I'd prefer, if you'd say: Oh, baby, kiss my belly!" May be you need more intimacy to talk about what do you really think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Oh Naira, other Armenians could not understand the French on you, and calify it as vulgar It seem that peoples don't understand that it,s French to be an adventurer on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Domino:Oh Naira, other Armenians could not understand the French on you, and calify it as vulgar It seem that peoples don't understand that it,s French to be an adventurer on everything.Well, Domino! Living in France can bring some weird and unusual ideas, but for discussing this all I think we don't have to be French. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 True, that French are seen by others ...you know what i mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 1, 2001 Report Share Posted June 1, 2001 Yeah, though they are more reserved than Russians, even Germans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berj Posted June 2, 2001 Report Share Posted June 2, 2001 quote:Originally posted by naira:I can. The question is rather, why should I?Hello Naira,Let's continue!Why should you leave the "rabiz"-s alone? Armenia's society comprises different classes, casts, sub-classes etc. "Rabiz"-es are one of that casts. Every country in this world has that cast though they differ by name and character (redneck, macho etc.). If we place them in the system of Indian Vedic casts for example (Brahmans-scientists, clergy, artists; Kshatries-millitary, administration; Shudras-producers; Rakshases-workers of sanitary sector) they will stand somewhere between Shudras and Rakshases. The right social system needs all these casts for functioning. The problem, particularly in Armenian's (and former USSR) case, is that the system of casts was artificially broken. You should remember Lenin's following statment:"Every cook can govern the state". Capitalism will place everything in its right order. But you can't have a normal social system without proportional representation of population by classes. If your country's population is 100% high class educated, nobody will agree to sweep the streets. That's why you should leave them alone. The problem rather is that "the cook" must not govern the state. quote:Berj,I sincerely doubt that the archeological findings in the Roman town of Pompei, will enlighten my sexual freedom. Though, I do not exclude such a delightful happening.Naira,I was not talking about the widening of your sexual freedom by providing info about Pompei excavations. I just wanted to show you that the amount of human knowledge about sexual relationships has been fixed during the course of history. And each human being in history had access to that fixed and limited information about sexual relationships depending on the "open" or "closed" character of the society at the given moment of its development. Visit this linkPlease, do not judge my knowledge on the subject by the information on that site. The side provides it in amateur way with clear cheap intentions. But you can at least have some base for the discussion. If you want more info you can find and read the "Twelve Ceasars" by Svetonios, specifically where he describes the life of the Roman court during the rein of Neron and Kaligula, make a trip to the Indian town of Kajourakho and view the stages of the development of human knowledge about sex on the numerous temples, which are widely known as "The Kama Sutra thing", find the unedited versions of "1001 nights". This subject is also widely articulated in Chinese, Japanese, Iranian ancient writings and art, African, American Indian and Turik inscribtions etc. My conculsion is that an ordinary Roman matrona new about sexuality and sex games almost as much as you and I do, with the exeption of modern technology. quote:What I'm sure of one thing is that you really see no difference between exploring one's sexual games and exploring mankind's sexual experience.I see the difference. I just know where I stand on the subject, what I want to do and what I don't, and my life is rich enough for me not to wind up it with sex only. quote:OK! Name me what is discovered already. And tell me, please, what d'you call a sexual game, what is the definition of sexual game?Everything is already discovered. What do I call a sexual game. Let me just clasify them.You can tell them by the following categories:1.Pre-act or post-act psycological manipulations of partner based on fixed human emotions (using fear, jealousy etc.) 2.Geographical location (where you do it )3...well, I'm sure you know all this stuff so I'll stop here. quote:We were talking about men, Berj!So the men, "black men", are actually the subject of this thread. And we started from there. And I'd love to keep talking about men.I decided to reply your statement about: "So if you have decided to marry a "traditional" armenian man, called in ancient times "rabiz", profit from all men's experience before engaging yourself in a long-lasting sexual slavery"because it was a clear and cheap attempt of manipulation. Invent something new. quote:Berj, do you consider you self a half-rabiz?No. quote:What the hell is a half-rabiz.I used the word half-rabiz as result of your descriptions of "rabiz" criterion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted June 2, 2001 Report Share Posted June 2, 2001 Yeap this and also my idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 2, 2001 Report Share Posted June 2, 2001 If we place them in the system of Indian Vedic casts for example (Brahmans-scientists, clergy, artists; Kshatries-millitary, administration; Shudras-producers; Rakshases-workers of sanitary sector) they will stand somewhere between Shudras and Rakshases. ... That's why you should leave them alone. The problem rather is that "the cook" must not govern the state. If we place them in the system of Today's Democratic Armenia. They will be citizens of that country and they can occupy different positions in every domain:social-workers, military officiers, doctors, deputies of national parliament, teachers and so on...Are you happy with your formula of defense?Don't you think that "rabiz" culture is an ideological arm for brutalization of armenian society? Isn't it enough to have square-heads with "Shvonder" mentality, who dictate and impose a general way of living for the whole society without leaving any alternative way of coexistence? Armenian citizens who refused to join "rabiz" majority found themselves often in isolation. They were sort of 'strikers'. Those who sympathised 'strikers' were often the target of humiliation as well. Don't you think that "rabiz" culture doesn't let to breath and move forward. It's a way to regression, 'covered' by so-called patriotic sentiments. It is a very general culture, Berj. They are evrywhere. In Evrywhere domain .... Don't you think that this "feudal" culture is so much inside of you, that you didn't realize actually, you are trying to explain it in positive manner and in some cases approve it? I think you do not realize of what you are stand for. If you think that you convienced me. And I'll leave them alone, you are wrong.The contrary you just scared more than I was. I see that Armenian society didn't change since its independence. It is regressing. And I'll do all I can to fight that injected into our society "rabiz" bullshit by armenian Shvonders. I was not talking about the widening of your sexual freedom by providing info about Pompei excavations. I just wanted to show you that the amount of human knowledge about sexual relationships has been fixed during the course of history. And each human being in history had access to that fixed and limited information about sexual relationships depending on the "open" or "closed" character of the society at the given moment of its development. Can you, please, reformule your point simply? I didn't understand a word from it:sexual relationships has been fixed during the course of history What does this useless bla-bla have to do with sexual games and with the subject we were discussing here? My conculsion is that an ordinary Roman matrona knew about sexuality and sex games almost as much as you and I do, with the exeption of modern technology.I don't care about Roman matrona, as you called her.I care less about your sexual experience. We were talking about sexual games. Personal sexual games. Sorry! Everything is already discovered. What do I call a sexual game. Let me just clasify them.You can tell them by the following categories:1.Pre-act or post-act psycological manipulations of partner based on fixed human emotions (using fear, jealousy etc.) 2.Geographical location (where you do it )3...well, I'm sure you know all this stuff so I'll stop here. Are you an archivist? Why the hell you want to categorise so badly something that you even do not have slightest idea? If all sexual games were discovered human race would be already dead, Berj! All we do in our life is based on our way of playing sexual games. We quit, we're dead!For me sexual game is a fantasy.Some of those fantasies do become materialised some do not and won't ever be.If you got a limit of stocks join me in private talk, since further discussing on sexual games can kill this thread. Which I do not really wish.But don't hope me to be your sex therapist!!! We can discuss openly the things that I in the name of peace would avoid do openly? I decided to reply your statement about: "So if you have decided to marry a "traditional" armenian man, called in ancient times "rabiz", profit from all men's experience before engaging yourself in a long-lasting sexual slavery"because it was a clear and cheap attempt of manipulation. Invent something new. Do not pull it out of its original context.It was a suggestion to women actually, not to men. Though I'd suggest the same thing to the male readers of this thread as well. Do the same thing, gentlemen. Explore your sexual potential before marrying a "rabiz" woman. Sleep with black, yellow, white, red, blue women or men, if you there is enough curiosity for that.More you explore, better you feel. Well, I'm not going to forget about self protection. Use condoms, please! Do you feel manipulated, Berj! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 2, 2001 Report Share Posted June 2, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Berj:Please, do not judge my knowledge on the subject by the information on that site. The side provides it in amateur way with clear cheap intentions. But you can at least have some base for the discussion. If you want more info you can find and read the "Twelve Ceasars" by Svetonios, specifically where he describes the life of the Roman court during the rein of Neron and Kaligula, make a trip to the Indian town of Kajourakho and view the stages of the development of human knowledge about sex on the numerous temples, which are widely known as "The Kama Sutra thing", find the unedited versions of "1001 nights". This subject is also widely articulated in Chinese, Japanese, Iranian ancient writings and art, African, American Indian and Turik inscribtions etc. My conculsion is that an ordinary Roman matrona new about sexuality and sex games almost as much as you and I do, with the exeption of modern technology.As a note of informationa character...Any curious person who visits the ruins of Dvin (some 70 km South of Yerevan) would be able to identify items of explicit character, which come to certify that in ancient Armenia there has been a cult of phallus and its antipode. I assume that implies existed atmosphere of discovery and games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 2, 2001 Report Share Posted June 2, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ:As a note of informationa character...Any curious person who visits the ruins of Dvin (some 70 km South of Yerevan) would be able to identify items of explicit character, which come to certify that in ancient Armenia there has been a cult of phallus and its antipode. I assume that implies existed atmosphere of discovery and games.MJ are you in? This time?May I ask you a question?I assume that implies existed atmosphere of discovery and games. Is this a funny discovery?come to certify that in ancient Armenia there has been a cult of phallus and its antipode. What we talk here is regarding actually modern Armenia.Ancient Armenia was ancient. And it will stay forever. Don't you think so, MJ?[ June 02, 2001: Message edited by: naira ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 2, 2001 Report Share Posted June 2, 2001 Is this a funny discovery? To ehome it may be and to whom it may not, but it is, sure, informative. What we talk here is regarding actually modern Armenia. May I give some information about the ancient Armenia, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 Don't be such a jerk, MJ!I like you for you nasty caracter. If you let such a bullshit without reaction, I'll believe you think the same way.I'm strongly doubting you to be objective on the stuff that scares you!Is this because you should proof first that you are intellectually luggaged?Ancient Armenia is in History section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by naira:Don't be such a jerk, MJ!I like you for you nasty caracter. If you let such a bullshit without reaction, I'll believe you think the same way.I'm strongly doubting you to be objective on the stuff that scares you!Is this because you should proof first that you are intellectually luggaged?Ancient Armenia is in History section.What is the problem, Naira? Why are you insulting me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ:What is the problem, Naira? Why are you insulting me?MJ,sorry that was not an insult, we had discussed before some hot sessions on "insult" issues. Common, MJ!You know what I mean. There is no insult in my message.Read it again, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 You are jumping the gun too early. I have read it. No, I don't think the same way. Everything in due time. [ June 02, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 I have read it. No I don't think the same way. I'm glad to hear that! Thanks a lot! You are jumping the gun too early.May be ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 To me, Modern Armenia is almost the same as most modern any place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 Ok! Let's put the question another way. You won't save yourself that easy, MJ!I promisse Why do live in America, MJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by naira:Ok! Let's put the question another way. You won't save yourself that easy, MJ!I promisse Why do live in America, MJ?1. I like/love it here;2. I can make a better living here;3. It is a good place to raise family;4. I grow much more comprehensively and faster, here; 5. I have unlimited access to information.There are many more reasons.[ June 02, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ:1. I like/love it here;2. I can make a better living here;3. It is a good place to raise family;4. I grow much more comprehensively and faster, here; 5. I have unlimited access to information.There are many more reasons.[ June 02, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ]Good! And the following question ....is.... (oops, I broke my nail, what a sharp envelope) ... did you have the same reasons in Armenia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 I did some of them. But in any case, neither location has anything to do with the "games" that we left a couple of postings behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairakev Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by MJ:I did some of them. But in any case, neither location has anything to do with the "games" that we left a couple of postings behind.Yeah, some ovation, here, please!You can't be tolerant ot autocritisism, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 Speaking of which, I saw a Turkish girl and a black boy together at school the other day. Don't know what nationality the boy was from, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berj Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted June 3, 2001 Report Share Posted June 3, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Berj:Armenian.LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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