-= Hunting =-

[MosJan]

If your not a HUnter or if you do not like hunting just exit this topic

 

some say that Hunting is abnormal sport - some see hunting us Sport and many see it only us killing animals.

 

to me it's HUNTING

i have been hunting for 13 years now, start of a small game , like rabbits and quell, checkers and pheasants, but soon after i start going for wield boar, dear, moos, elk, antelope, this is what i enjoy hunting, this days i would not go in the filed just to hut a rabbit or a bard, small game is just not for me anymore even though it's a good sport, but i just cant find time for it.

 

for almost 11 years now we have a group of 5-to-6 hunter, who join every year to go to Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Utah or California.

 

it's not only the kill, or shutting at something it's the company of friends who make each hunting day interesting and something to remember year after a year. hunting + friends +4will driving + ATV riding + the food + late night camp fire + the nature .... ahh i have 6 more months before i can go to Colorado.

 

is any of you in to hunting ???

 

Movses

[shiner]

MosJan,

I haven't been yet, but I definitely want to. I love eating game. Texas is a very big hunting state. You might want to plan a trip around here. You won't be disappointed.

[Ararat-73]

Mosjan Jan,

T'm glad to know that you are first class hunter and still are.

As for me, I WAS a hunter when I was 10. Till 20, 22.

After that, with Lebanese war coming, we forgot that excellent sport.

I was born in a familly of hunters. My uncle was an armourer. The only one in Lebanon. Camille Chamoun (former Lebanese president-1952-1958) and Saeb Salam (several times prime minister) were his friends.

We had 4 dogs. One of them was the best in Lebanon, may be in the world. A real genious. excellent in hunting, excellent in affection. That lovely dog has been stollen 2 times and 2 times managed to find the way back home.

But, here in France, I really forgot hunting.

Apsos.

Football is as exciting as hunting. Ha ha ha !

Let's talk about Ararat-73 !

"Ararat hoop door"

[Harut]

i have a cousin whose motto is "Give me a "parsatik"("ragatka" ) and i will empty the forest"

[MosJan]

Harout jan one of the reasons that we do not hunt in Ca. much is your cousin

 

Way to many Ppl. who has guns and thus not know what-haw-whir-when to hunt.

 

one of the prime hunting areas in Ca. is King City pasarobles, it's ideal place to hunt for PIG-Dear-turkey-Elk, the best place for a new starter 4hunter leget military base. also you can hunt in ParkFild ( mostly privet properties) it's on top of san anndreos, Mandasino, and N-CA, exlent hunting, but you gat way to many hunters in one hunting aria. way to many accidents happen.

[Harut]

no Mosjan, you better stay out of CA. te che u ......

we still need you here.

[Hyeflyer]

My favorite past time,HUNTING! It doesnt matter weather I use a rifle, pistole or bow.It is the challange of the stalk and the thrill of the kill.In the central U.S. we have some of the best hunting.My deer I shot this fall was a 11 point killed a 30 yards with my compound bow.It was my first bow kill and it was a thrill and a great memory.I did not know of any other Armenians that hunt till now.Does anyone fish also.

[hasmiek]

so,

 

do you guys eat the animals you kill?

[Hyeflyer]

You cant grill it if you dont kill it. Some of the best shishkabab was made from elk and deer:)Served up with a salad and pilaf it cant be beat.:)I also eat the fish I catch.I love vegan because it leaves more meat for me and they can have half of my pilaf in return for their meat.

[Hyeflyer]

What is the favorite hunting rifle for us hunters? Mine is a rebarreled Remington #700 in .300 winchester with the barrel being 7/8 in. od.. The barrel work was done by McMillon about 10 years ago and it still shoot straiter then I can hold it steady.I also built my own .50 hawken muzzle loader rifle and have killed 2 white tails out at around 150 yards with it.

[Hyeflyer]

Mos JanI have allways liked the .30 cal bullet and also I am a big fan of the .25 cal bullets but my .300 win mag does all that I need and more out to 600 yards.Try a Mcmillon carbon stock for the Wetherby rifles,the claro walnut is kiln dried and the gloss epoxy finish is going to make it end checkcrack.Our you can go to Browns precision and get a very good American walnut stock.Start reloading and cut your amo coast 55%.

[MosJan]

i was using a 270 & 306 Winchester for long time, i have used it for Dear, pigs, Ram, Antelope. it was a good guns.

for 7 years now I’m using a Weathrby lazermark 300Wby-Mag . 26" bbl. i head muzelbracke instilled on it. this is the only rifle i need, it can be used for 90% big game.

the only problem i have with this rifle is Claro walnut stock it has Ben replaced 2 times, it gets cracked. friend of mind has the same problem on 7mm mag he has changed it to a syntactic 2 years a go.

 

next one i like to get is a lazermark or MArk V 338-378 wby mag 28" bbl. it has a OEM muzzle brake. i have used one in UTHA 6 months a go, it had a good fell to it. nice syntactic . it's "Another Weatherby wildcat, first introduced in the 1960s. This is the ultimate cartridge for long-range, big game hunting. Delivers more than 5,000 foot pounds of energy at the muzzle with a .338-sized bullet. Extremely powerful and flat-shooting. Based upon the .378 case, necked down to .338. Reintroduced as a Weatherby production cartridge in 1998. .338-378 Weatherby Magnum is available in Mark V TRM, Accumark. and Synthetic."

jus the ammo is way to Expensive $80 for 20-25 cartridges.

just one target practice can cost $80

maybe next year

[MosJan]

Start reloading and cut your ammo coast 55%.

HE HE

have your friends do your reloading and save 100% He HE

 

i have been using reloads for 4 years now. i love it, my shutting distance is much better, it's much flatter bullet. at first it was kinking like a wild donkey but after installing muzzle brake on it and customized the shoulder pad, much larger and ticker HK pad, it's like a .25 now.

 

this is whar i will be hunting this october

 

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[ March 20, 2002, 02:29 PM: Message edited by: MosJan ]

[Hyeflyer]

Mos JanThe map quest did not decode but thats ok.I njust got my permit for spring Turkey season and have my place set up already.I mostly hunt private land so I am not in competition with other hunters.I also hunt some national forest lands.The mild winter has left the Turkey population in very good shape.I saw a flock of 23 when I was scouting the farm.There was a tom in the bunch that had a 12 to 14 inch beard in there with them.He has my name on him already.:)Well the season for hunting raccoons with hound came to a end but it was a good season.My partner and I bagged 41 in 12 hunts.The fur buyer gives us $20 each for them unskined.It buys the dog food for my parteners two Walker hounds.We will be taking the dogs to se Tennesee to hunt boar in may.I use a Ruger super black hawk in 454 casul for boar.Yes it is a hand cannon but when you have to jump in the fracas and take a shot at 10 or so feet you want that boar to fall like it was hit by lightening.I have been reloading for about 20 years now.I am loading Seiara 168 grn open point intl. match bullets in my .300 win and the 12 grians less than the standerd 180 grn puts the .300 win in the velocity range of the .300 wetherby.Two years ago in Wy. in shot my prong horn at a measured 421 yards andf he fell to the shot.I also hunt wood chucks to keep my eye in shape in the off season and the farmers are glad to be rid of the little pests.we also have a lot of coyote hunting here and I find that a challange to call them in.We cant use electronic callers in my state and can only use mouth calls .Ill ask agian does anyone fish besides hunt?

[Hyeflyer]

One of the things we do in the off season to keep our eye in shape is to shoot .22 rimfires.Mine is a match to my centerfire.300 so that I do not have to get reaccustomed to the center fire.We shoot at a aspirin at 100 yards.It is not a easy thing to do.The wind drift is hell on a .22 at 100 yards.If you can hit 5 out of 10 shots you are on the ball.In a scope a aspirin looks about half its real size so you are shooting at a mark that is roughly 1/8 inch around.I am teaching my 10 year old to hunt to.He shot his first rabbit with a bow this past season and he is hooked on hunting also.The reality of taking a life eaven though it was only a rabbit sobered him up and he has a differant look at life now.It took the little boy out of him and has given him a new sence of responsibility.

[Azat]

Two hunters went moose hunting every winter without success. Finally they came up with a foolproof plan. They got a very authentic cow moose costume and learned the mating call of a cow moose.

 

The plan was to hide in the costume, lure the bull, then come out of the costume and shoot the bull. They set themselves up on the edge of a clearing, donned their costume and began to give the moose love call.

 

Before long their call was answered as a bull came crashing out of the forest and into the clearing. When the bull was close enough, the guy in front said, "OK, lets get out and get him."

 

After a moment that seemed like an eternity, the guy in the back shouted, "The zipper is stuck! What are we going to do!?"

 

The guy in the front says, "Well, I'm going to start nibbling grass, but you'd better brace yourself.

[MosJan]

VESTS - CLOTHING - DECOYS - MOUTH CALLS MAn Way to much for me

 

i'm not good at turky hunting,

 

i have trayd thsi 2 times no good

#1 i was not priperd for it

#2 i did not know what i was geting my self in to

#3 i was not good at calls

#4 ~~~~~~~~~

 

one of this days if I find some one good at turkey hunting I might gave one more tray

the only place I know in S-CA is king city - and I do not like to hunt in this place.

 

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just copy the link and past it in IE it will work 

 

nice to se that your introducing you kid to hunting. One more way to stay close to you kid and do staff together , one of my friends brings his kid and his dog to hunting,  all of us are on lookout for his kid  his running after his dog  it took him good 3 years to teach his dog be a hunting companion, war still teaching his kid to only shut when needed,  for some time I was thinking of getting a fool bad armor, the kid would shut anything that was moving

[Hyeflyer]

MosJan You brought up the young boy shooting every thing moving.This is some thing that hard core hunters like myself dont approve of,but none the less it happens.What is laking is the father teacing the boy reverance for life and that will cause the boy problems down the line.I was taught a very strong code of ethics that go along with being a hunter and a particapent in life not a spectator.My son shot a starling blackbird with a pellet gun and did a rather poor job of it.I look it him and asked in a very angry tone,did you intend to eat that bird.He said no and I ripped in to him and made him dispatch the bird clean it and cook it and eat Every shred of it.To say the lest he no longer shoots any thing he wont eat.Alos i made him REALLY LOOK at the suffering he had cause the bird by his poor shooting abillity.At that point I new if he would be a hunter or not.He has learned a reverance for a life no matter how small.It is called ethics and we all as hunter need to share common ethics.

[MosJan]

Ehh I don’t know – the father likes to see his kid Hunting – the kid likes to play  can’t ever mix this two.

[MosJan]

have you ever used TrailCam's ?

[Hyeflyer]

NO never used trail cams ,god gave me two good eyes.I never trust technolagy to do what I was born to do.About your friends kid ,maybe your friend should teach him that hunting is not game but a serious thing.I never saw hunting as a game but a very serious conection to my past.A life is a life. As it says in the bible God will evan know about the fallen sparrow.I take hunting VERY serious. Maybe that is why after my father has passed I hunt alone.Now I teach my son the gravity of taking life and having to live with your choices.

[Hyeflyer]

MosJanA freind of mine gave me a box of hunting magazines that he found in a house he just bought.They are all from the mid 60's all the way up to 75.Anyway in one of them is a article about hunting wild rams in north Iran.These rams should also be found in Armenia?Is there any hunting in Armenia and if so do you know what can be hunted.The article also told about stag that resemble American elk.The photo of the rams was somthing to see.They are a beutiful chocolate brwn with honey gold face masks.The horns are a bit differant then the American big horn rams,thicker and heavier with a little less curl.

[MosJan]

friend of mind just parched a property in the Gorman-fraserPark, 70 mils north of LA, i just don't have a time to do scouting in 4 places at the same time, so decide to get a trail cam for now. let see if I can get some pics of the action, you never know what that camera might "see".

 

i have left a camera in Colorado for a whole year, the batteries died after 5 months but I have got 1200 nice piks, even tough low resolution but still it was nice to see what gos on when your not there The snow - The spring - haw the nature changes, and most of all the 5X7 Freek buck.

 

us for the kid, I have madup my mind i will get him a Hunting game for his X-Box, some kids will never learn, or by the time they learn it will be to lath, we have been trying way to hard to teach him, will it's not working, we might tray a different approach next time.

[Hyeflyer]

MosJanThe reasonI dont use the cams is one of my buisness ventures is in aggriculture and I am on the property 3 to 5 days a week.I know the land I hunt like my hand.I see the changes from day to day season to season.It is not a matter of knowing your quary as much as knowing their habbits and where they live.I do not have a special Turkey shotgun or fancy camaflage clothes.I only use what I have and my whits.It mwas a sad birthday party last night for my friend with the hunting hounds.He turned 68 and said his days of chasing the dogs was done after our boar hunt this spring.He was also my fathers hunting companion and I am proud to be going on his last real hunt with him.We will now chase rabbit and phesant together and take the light cover.It is hard to watch a strong man admit he is to old for the hard chase and kill.I will miss him and remember the hunts I shared with him and my father.Now I am having to teach a young one to track the feilds with me and some day he will know my saddness I have now.It is strange how it is passed from the one generation to the next and the silent sorrow you bare when your companion on the hunt retires.

[MosJan]

Ok - I’m going to pic up the cameras in the morning – lets see if anything has happened –when we war not their  he he –

 

I have placed 2 digital cameras on what we think in 2 good locations of the property.

 

MOvses