Defamation against Turks...

[MJ]

Thorny,

 

"Aslan" is not Armenian word.

 

An a related note, I would like to reference an allegory quoted by a Hye Forum member in the past, according to which "The hunt of a sleeping lion goes to the wolves."

 

As to the last caesura of our common liability, I would consult with some good therapists to get some advice on how to proceed.

 

P.S. But it wouldn't be easy given the seriousness of the case.

 

[ November 03, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ]

[khodja]

MJ,

 

You wouldn't need to consult with a psychologist if you realized that my nickname is Nasraddin.

[MJ]

Dear "Boghos,"

 

I would still like to consult a therapist. It is too much of a responsibility to deal with such fragile minds and souls.

[khodja]

MJ,

 

When you consult with a therapist, speaking of fragile minds and souls, ask them the effects that the Armenian community have on those who will not "toe the line."

[MJ]

I did. He says, "What the hell is "Boghos" going after the Armenian community, after all that it has done to him?" He says, "Get away from it, go embrace your other identities, leave the Armenian community alone, and have them leave you alone."

[khodja]

What other identity do you suggest that I embrace? That of the country my father escaped to after the Genocide where they taunted him with the words "salle etranger," the Assyrian that my maternal great-grandfather was, or do you suggest that I go back centuries and find my partial roots from back then? The problem is not with me it is with those of you who insist that to be Armenian one has to think and act exactly as you do.

[khodja]

MJ,

 

Nope, not Poghos Poghosyan. Who needs Turks these last few years? Fellow Armenians are killing Armenians. Nope, not Boghos. I wonder how many common Armenian names remain.

Hint: I have been told by many that I am very handsome for an Armenian. Even an Assyrian Queen would want to possess me.

[ThornyRose]

LOL... "With Armenians like these, who needs Turks?" LOL...

[ThornyRose]

So what is lion in Armenian?

[MJ]

Guidlines for interaction with "Ara:"
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[MJ]

That's a little upside down, "Ara." In reality some of us act and think like Armenians. I hope your state of mind may allow you to see the difference.

[khodja]

Martin,

 

You have distilled the essence of perpetual

Armenian national failure. Who do we need to achieve national success? A Frenchman? an Assyrian? a Jew or Jew converted to Christianity? a Chinese? a Russian? If our history is any guide that would be true. Mayre the best compromise would be an Armenian who is more one of these by mentality than Armenian, due to the influence of their adopted land. Just look at Greece, Israel, and Latvia, who have found successful leadership from the West. Obviously, the home grown ones can't do the job.

[gamavor]

Actually one of my relatives have killed many turkish soldiers but obviously not enough.

[MJ]

Dear "Hovhanness,"

 

Given that you come from where you come from, have you been instilled with an embrionic menthality?

[khodja]

MJ,

 

OK now, what elementary things must I learn? I am open to learning. If what I have read is not true, I am open to changing my viewpoint.

[MJ]

Dear "Hovhanness,"

 

For now, can give you few quick advices based on my observations:

 

1. You have to learn thinking, first. That is your first problem. It appears that you consume a lot of information, but you cannot process it. Thinking and analysing skills can be imporved much like anything. It just requires regular exercising, rejection of self-indulgent narcicism, and a desire to go deeper than the surface;

 

2. You have to be a little critical of your own thinking, and be open minded;

 

3. You have to rid your venome, and be more loving and accepting;

 

4. You have to improve your memory skills. After all, if you cannot remember what you tell otehrs, how would you expect to remember what others tell you?

 

5. Don't be celebist for prolonged periods of time. Go enjoy yourslef and others. Otherwise it affects one's health and dilutes one's concentration.

 

Gotto fly! Wish me happy landing.

[khodja]

Martin,

 

Please explain you comments further, more explicitly. I request this point by point.

 

1) I have gathered much information. Where is the problem with my processing? If I see Mongol features among some of my fellow Armenians, what is wrong with my processing? If I learn that Tigran brought many Jews into some of the cities of his Empire and if my grandmother has told us that we a partially descended from converted Jews, where is my processing faulty? If my other grandmother has told me that her family is descended from the Franco-Armenian nobility of Giligia and I have done geneological studies to confirm this, where is my thinking faulty? When an eminent ROA genticist concludes from his state-of-the- art DNA genetic study that Armenian men hold 1/3 the percentage of the gene of the Jewish Kohanim (priests) as do Jews, where is my processing faulty? Viewing things on the surface is what our traditional Armenian scholars do. I never heard in Armenian school that the Bagratunis were Jews, the Arzrunis Assyrian, the Mamikonians Chinese or the Kings of Giligia French. I had to learn these things by going deeper than the surface.

 

Any narcissism on my part is a reaction to the looks that I get from Armenians when I discuss these matters.

 

2) If the holes in my arguments are brought to my attention, I will gladly reasses. But hysteria and blatant attacks will not change my perceptions. Why do Armenans view what I state as an affront?

 

3) Venom? When your fellow Armenians want to destroy you merely for stating what you believe and have actively done so in the past, what other emotion do you suggest?

 

4) One can not be expected to remember EVERY specific dialogue that they have been involved with in these forums. If you had reminded me of the specific subject, I may have recalled the dialogue. Since it was in another forum which you only visited once, it would have been easier for you to remember the specific dialogue.

 

5) If you had seen what I saw in the Hollywood Hills you would keep celibate also. Have you ever wondered what happened to the beautiful Female actresses and models who disappeared? Granted, prolonged celibacy will disturb the mind and sexuality. I sadly learned that lesson at a very young age.

 

I eagerly await your reply.

[gamavor]

Mehmet,

 

I do not want to kill turks. I'm not bloodthirsty. I simply wish they were not existent. I hate turks biologically, but I do not think that they might qualify for the privilege to be my enemies. I respect and love my enemies (those of them who are alive). Rather I'm indifferent to them. But if anybody volunteers to drop 10-20 nuclear bombs over Turkey (make them 50) I will not cry.

 

I'm not from TX, I just moved here one year ago. Cowboy mentality is foreign to me but if it means to kick somebody's a** when he/she acts inappropriately I'm a cowboy.

 

"It is terrible to be slave, but it is hundred times more terrible not to wish to be free".

 

Abraham Lincoln

[MJ]

OK. I am in the airport, and my flight is slightly delaied, so I can have a little bit more fun with "Ara Geghetsik."

 

Dear "Hovhanness," first deal with the failurs of your personal life, next treat yourself from the footh-and-mouth desease, then get out of your barabarian "genetic" mode of mind, then you may be positioned to make qualified judgments about Armenian History, and moreover, its future.

 

[ November 04, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ]

[khodja]

Martin,

 

I am beginning to wonder if your guidelines for dealing with Mustafa posting should guide us on how to deal with you.

[MJ]

Dear "Hovhanness,"

Please keep wondering. When you find peace with yourself, and learn few elementary things, report in this forum, please. We would very much like to see you succeed.

[khodja]

Gamavor,

Must I remind you that there are 65 million Turks, 8 million Azeris and less than 3 million Armenians. The Armenian figure may be closer to 2 million, in reality. The remainder are now citizens of the world. So every Armenian would have to kill 40 Turks to make your wishes come true, while there would be 40 Turks who would have the chance to kill every Armenian. Given these odds, I think it would be better to try to find peace with them. I do not agree with your plans for national suicide. Coming from Texas, have you been instilled with a cowboy mentality?

[khodja]

Ali,

 

I see your point. What we have here is mass psychosis, Eugene Ionesco's "Rhinoceros" story. These folks have been so indoctrinated that they have lost their senses. Not crying that 65 million people are killed by atomic bombs? Among those would be small children and elderly. They label me the psychotic? No doubt your people think the same of you in view of the indoctrination that the Turkish government has given your people. The words of Ataturk about the deeds of the Young Turks are alien to many in present-day Turkey. The walls can not come down between the Armenians and the Turks until these folks become de-programmed on both sides.

[khodja]

Ali,

 

Thank you for the remainder of the names of the Ottoman Armenians.

[ThornyRose]

Happy landing!