Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 After scraping the Armenian diasporan forum, after attacking Armenians everywhere they can find, after registering here, and being kicked out, now they have done it again, but this time on Raffi's site(cilicia.com) the same Raffi that has passed so much time building one of the best if not the best Armenian web-site, I really pitty him now, since onces his site has been infected by ISA virus, its very hard to get rid of it. http://cilicia.com/board/viewforum.php?f=3...f5b8310b4233610 Pathetic, really pathetic.And they claim to be Armenians. [ November 11, 2002, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Domino ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dealing with that "virus" is easy! You just have to have good moderators who are on top of things I guess But yah, totally pathetic ... the good thing is that their actions are obviously self destructive as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 This Ann Frankenstein is OUT OF CONTROL! I think the Canadian authorities should investigate him before he goes and bombs some synagogue in Montreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Sip, you have no idea of the %^&^$%$, those idiots are doing, they are posting there trash in every site they can find as an Armenian, they are lowering our faces to the floor by alleging to represent what true Armenians are. One idiot in particular, the one spaming Raffi's site lives in the same city then me, and have threatned me, he claims that he will be supported by the community center, and this on an open forum. Do you imagine what harms is he creating, one of his posts has been included in an American forum as a reference joke of how people can accuse Jews of everything. Yet, he has attacked every Armenian sites he could find, and claim that web Armenians do not repsent real Armenians. As for moderators, once they take a site, believe me they do not let it go, only hyeforum is an exeption, the technicality of this forum threaten them, the administrator here know his sh.t, and there is moderators that are to technical for ISA's brain, so they do not dare to continue here, but imagine how they try to pictures Armenians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Hagarag, yes, this matter is becoming very serious, since he has threatned my peron seriously, it could be considered as death threats, and what he has posted, you can even not find them from neo-NAZI's these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 You simply delete the user's account and all of his/her posts. On most forums you can also set flood control so that a user cannot post more than one message per some time period. I can't see how anyone could "take" a site, unless they hack into the site through some back-door, get a hold of the admin account/password, or get root access to the server. Oh, and I fully agree that the admin here knows his sh!t [ November 11, 2002, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: Sip ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 They are just showing what they are made of. I am sure Raffi will figure out a way to block them. I just wonder whose support are they trying to get by posting their crap over and over and over and over and over again? I am glad they are not on this forum to ruin it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Sip, on Raffi's board, you can post as a guest, thats the problem, as for IP, Ann uses proxies, he has banks of them, how can you get rid of those. He can not do the same on armenians.com for obvious reasons, Azat there is nothing to worry about... with the number of moderators, and there is a registration that takes the administrator agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Oh, yah the "guest" posting is a big source of headache ... I know how that can be. Hmmmm ... with anonymous/guest posting, you have to have round-the-clock moderators Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sip:You simply delete the user's account and all of his/her posts. On most forums you can also set flood control so that a user cannot post more than one message per some time period. I can't see how anyone could "take" a site, unless they hack into the site through some back-door, get a hold of the admin account/password, or get root access to the server. Oh, and I fully agree that the admin here knows his sh!t smilies/thumbup.gifIsn't it something that MOSAD should do? Why should Armenians ban Armenians? You can argue with them, you can disrespect them, you can do whatever you want, but you have no right to shut them down. That is not fair.When turks say that there was no Genocide, what can you do? When Jews say (I mean Israeli Government) that Armenian Genocide was a "tragedy", but not a Genocide, what can you do? Can you shut them down too. Grow up people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 mmmm, the stuff posted in Fadis link is really disturbing . I suspect its a bunch of 16-18 year olds who have learnt a few hacking tricks (scripts are btw everywhere on net), and think they are on top of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Gams. http://cilicia.com/board/viewforum.php?f=3...f5b8310b4233610 How an Armenian does this to an Armenian ? Should it be left there ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Jewcy, My nick name is "gamavor". In this forum there are two people that are not bright enough to spell out correctly my nickname - You and Him (a.k.a. Thoth). It is not my business to decide what to do with inadequate posts. I don't remember anybody deleting your posts, for some reason. Nor I want to play God (in this case moderator). I hate all moderators, be it in life or on the Internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Gams, show me where have I spammed a board... have I spammed this board ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khodja Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 I have strong suspicions that Ann Frankenstein and his helpers are NOT Armenians at all but paid Turkish members of the MIT (Turkish Secret Police). Just look at their timing, just before the movie "Ararat" is to be released. They are trying to inoculate Jews and others against the pain of the Armenians, by making Armenians look like Nazis. They are a VERY shrewd bunch, but they can't fool me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Dear Gamavor, Hate if you must, but I can assure you this board would have closed down long ago if it weren't for strict moderating. When you have one or few disturbed individual who "spam" a board, that board is no more a "discussion board" ... it is simply a recycle bin of repetitive, useless, "spam". I am all for letting people speak ANYTHING they want to say. But that should not come at the cost of shutting out someone else I think EVERYONE should get a fair chance to speak no matter what they believe. But if someone spams a forum in which I am a moderator, I wouldn't hesitate a second before sending their entire thread into "empty and resusable hard disk sector land" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 I agree with you Sip, for maintaining this board, there is no other board I know of, be it Armenian or else, that has beeen maintained like this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joseph Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Long live HYE FORUM , i think this sit is democracy the way it should be , maybe some people dont like it but hey they have to learn how to live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razmouhi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 I agree with Gamavor. It's shameful to block Armenians out just because you don't like what they say. That's fascism at its worst. Hagarag really sounds paranoid to the extreme. What's with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 quote: It's shameful to block Armenians out just because you don't like what they say. That's fascism at its worst. Is it better to allow a few (loud) extremists to drown out the voices of the majority - those who are simply trying to discuss issues in a constructive manner? The one with the loudest voice wins? I think that is anarchism at it's worst. [ November 12, 2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: vava ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 12, 2002 Report Share Posted November 12, 2002 Razmouhi, those people that you defend, delete and edit my posts in their board, when I do not spam... by doing so, they lose any right to sick freedom of speech... and furthermore, you have no clue of what you are talking, because now Raffi has deleted the trash that Ann has posted... the person you defent has posted more then 100 spams on Raffi's site slandering him, if you believe that those spams should be left there, then its your suspicious opinion. They are hatefull people that threaten everyone against them, that brings only hate everywhere they post. The freedom of someone stops on the borders of anothers freedom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghi Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Did Domino aka Tyue aka Imajudas bother telling anyone what actually took place there? No, of course not because it wouldn't be in his intrest to do so. But let me! -------------------------------------------------- Ann FrankensteinPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2002 6:37 am Post subject: The jewish roll in the Armenian Genocide! I'm told that you people are afraid to discuss this matter as well as the israeli/jewish denials of the Armenian Genocide! If this true, I would like to know why you are afraid! -------------------------------------------------- raffi Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2002 7:18 am Post subject: "You people" That is always a good way to offend, right off the bat. "We people" know nothing about any Jewish involvement in the Armenian Genocide, but are acutely aware of the denial/lack of recognition by the Israeli government and none of us are "afraid" to talk about this seriously screwed up policy. How pathetic that one people who are victims of genocide would ignore another for short-term political gain with Turkey. How extremely shameful and disgusting! -------------------------------------------------- Tyeu Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2002 1:08 am Post subject: I aware any readers of this board that the above individual by the name of Ann Frankenstein is a racist individual that bring hate everywhere he goes. Tyeu never said to Ann(when he say "I'm told" he is probably talking about me) that people on cilicia forum are afraid to talk about the Israeli denial of the Armenian genocide, what Tyeu has done was to tell Ann that the author of cilicia.com will probably not permit individuals such as Ann to post their works on other forums(what Anns did with a map of the Azeris section). Tyeu said this because Ann by posting materials worked by other Armenians he is discrediting their works, because of Ann hateful caracter, where he spew his hates all over the places. Furthermore, I believe that people here should be aware that Ann is posting by pretending to be an Armenian, this won't creat any problem among other Armenians, what creat problems among other Armenians is the fact that Ann has written things such as "Gas the Jews" "Happy Holohoax"(With a picture of a buttle of Zyklon as well as has denied the Holocaust and accused the Jews of being responsable of pratically every problems of this world, refering them by calling them with names such as "vermins." Or asking their total destructions. Ann has found any way of putting the Armenians faces down and giving arguments to Turks to accuse Armenians of being racists, has attacked every Armenians that did not had his views over the internet, has attacked myself and have made physical threats by telling me that he will find me and brake my bones, as well as he injected my mother in the question by calling her a "Jewish whore." Raffi, you may say that those problems in other forums should not concern here, but recently one of Anns remark apeared in an American web-site. So I believe that any Armenians that should come across him on the internet should reject this individual and differenciate himself from that person, a person that claimed that the Armenians in real life would support him. Regards -------------------------------------------------- I fail to see what Raffi found so offensive. Was it the fact that the people there were addressed as "you people"? I really don't know and maybe someone here can see it and would like to point it out for those of us who don't. Notice how it was little rabid Domino that started spouting off all his usual lies. As for the individual who thinks Ann Frankenstein is a turk spy. Ann Frankenstein has offered to meed Domino (the defender of all Armenians) to meet this Ann Frankenstein turk spy at the Armenian community center in Montreal. Ann Frankenstein has even offered to meet Domino in the ANC office, the presidents office or even in der hayr's office but Domino has repeatedly refused giving many bogus reasons. Ann Frankenstein NEVER claimed that the Armenian community supports him. It was Domino that made this claim and Ann Frankenstein called Domino on his bluff and Domino chickened out. What I find real intresting, is that Domino and his kind, like only "their" twisted version of events heard so the outcome will be in their favor. Domino has been caught lying too many times to count but all his lies and the proof have all been saved. If you people are up to the challenge of everything being laied out on the table for all to see and decide for themselves, then let's do it. BTW, I'm most certain that those who have something to hide, will object violently by attacking anyone who would agree to having everything out in the open. Also, there are quite a few lies posted in this thread and I can answer to all of them but I won't just yet, I'll wait to hear some of your replies first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razmouhi Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 We have whose word about so-called "loud" extremists. It seems like you are the loud one Domino and I think extremist could ONLY be applied to the anti-Armenian element. Are you part of that? You have come here with no proof whatsoever and now we see from this last post that you were not telling the truth. Why is it that we can't see or hear for ourselves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leghi Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 However, there is something quite intresting from hagarag! "This Ann Frankenstein is OUT OF CONTROL! I think the Canadian authorities should investigate him before he goes and bombs some synagogue in Montreal." "I have strong suspicions that Ann Frankenstein and his helpers are NOT Armenians at all but paid Turkish members of the MIT (Turkish Secret Police). Just look at their timing, just before the movie "Ararat" is to be released. They are trying to inoculate Jews and others against the pain of the Armenians, by making Armenians look like Nazis. They are a VERY shrewd bunch, but they can't fool me." Hagarag claims that Ann Frankenstein and his "helpers" are turkish spies and his primary concern is for synagogues. Very intresting indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 13, 2002 Report Share Posted November 13, 2002 Leghi,We on this board do not care about all that is going on between you and Ann and Domino and all the others on other boards. I would just like to tell you that what I did see on Raffi's forum will not be tolerated here and if you or anyone else comes and tries to SPAM, or insult other members of this forum, that person will be kicked out ASAP. Good luck and welcome to HyeforumAzat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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