Azat Posted October 8, 2001 Report Share Posted October 8, 2001 And one more thing for you to read. Link to get more info on US Aid in General. http://www.usaid.org Link to get info on US Aid to Armenia(1.2 Billion dollars in 9 years) http://www.usaid.gov/am/funding1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 I dont see anything wrong with his statement. If I was in his position I would probably be saying the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 quote:Originally posted by Juggernaut:I dont see anything wrong with his statement. If I was in his position I would probably be saying the same.You did not have to say that. We already knew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 I like to take this opportunity and apologize to members of this forum for "stealing" this thread by not talking about "Basic Islam" on this thread for the last few posts. [ October 09, 2001: Message edited by: Azat ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Here is what I assume all Islam loving people believe. Unless we hear from other Islamic scholars or leaders, this must be what Basic Islam is about. -------------------I bear witness that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger. There is America, hit by God in one of its softest spots. Its greatest buildings were destroyed, thank God for that. There is America, full of fear from its north to its south, from its west to its east. Thank God for that. What America is tasting now is something insignificant compared to what we have tasted for scores of years. Our nation [the Islamic world] has been tasting this humiliation and this degradation for more than 80 years. Its sons are killed, its blood is shed, its sanctuaries are attacked, and no one hears and no one heeds. When God blessed one of the groups of Islam, vanguards of Islam, they destroyed America. I pray to God to elevate their status and bless them. Millions of innocent children are being killed as I speak. They are being killed in Iraq without committing any sins, and we don't hear condemnation or a fatwa [religious decree] from the rulers. In these days, Israeli tanks infest Palestine -- in Jenin, Ramallah, Rafah, Beit Jalla and other places in the land of Islam -- and we don't hear anyone raising his voice or moving a limb. When the sword comes down [on America], after 80 years, hypocrisy rears its ugly head. They deplore and they lament for those killers, who have abused the blood, honor and sanctuaries of Muslims. The least that can be said about those people is that they are debauched. They have followed injustice. They supported the butcher over the victim, the oppressor over the innocent child. May God show them his wrath and give them what they deserve. I say that the situation is clear and obvious. After this event, after the senior officials have spoken in America, starting with the head of infidels worldwide, Bush, and those with him. They have come out in force with their men and have turned even the countries that belong to Islam to this treachery, and they want to wag their tail at God, to fight Islam, to suppress people in the name of terrorism. When people at the ends of the earth, Japan, were killed by their hundreds of thousands, young and old, it was not considered a war crime, it is something that has justification. Millions of children in Iraq is something that has justification. But when they lose dozens of people in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam [capitals of Kenya and Tanzania, where U.S. embassies were bombed in 1998], Iraq was struck and Afghanistan was struck. Hypocrisy stood in force behind the head of infidels worldwide, behind the cowards of this age, America and those who are with it. These events have divided the whole world into two sides -- the side of believers and the side of infidels. May God keep you away from them. Every Muslim has to rush to make his religion victorious. The winds of faith have come. The winds of change have come to eradicate oppression from the island of Muhammad, peace be upon him. To America, I say only a few words to it and its people. I swear by God, who has elevated the skies without pillars, neither America nor the people who live in it will dream of security before we live it in Palestine, and not before all the infidel armies leave the land of Muhammad, peace be upon him. God is great, may pride be with Islam. May peace and God's mercy be upon you. Osama bin Laden - 11/8/01 www.washingtonpost.com ------------- If this in not what Islam is about how come no Big Islamic leader has stepped up and condoned his words or has claimed that killing women/men/kids of all nationalities in high rise buildings will not get you to heaven. Where is that Shacakan(Louis Farrakhan) guy? How come he is not saying anything about it? Or is this what basic Islam is about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffiaharonian Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 It was my first visit after many months at the site, and I wished to read the topic on Basic Islam.What did I find , pure stupidity and imense diversion from the original topic. Because I believe that this will not end here, I am closing this topic and each one of you can post their 'philosphies' under the right topics and threads. Good Luck to all of you and please stay out of trouble! By the way, I love you all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffiaharonian Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 After the request of a respectable forum member, this thread is re-opened! I've deleted the last 2 posts, and I herewith request all of you to respect the precious time of the remaining members and be relevant to the topic.Please don't tempt me to close this important topic once more. God bless you all and give you guidance!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted October 11, 2001 Report Share Posted October 11, 2001 Raffi JAn Your the MaN : Movses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut Posted October 12, 2001 Report Share Posted October 12, 2001 Dang, I wonder what the 2nd post was . Anyways, guys I dont know why you are being so strict when a thread 'veers' off the original topic. I mean this is bound to happen one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggernaut Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 quoteotherwise this wouldn't have been a Forum but a brothel! Hehe, I have always been under the impression that there is only one topic discussed in a brothel, and absolutelly no deviation due to the low levels of intelligence attributed to the people involved and the general atmosphere . So may I therefore suggest that we model this forum on a brothel and only invite people of sub-standard intelligence so that no deviation has a chance of occuring. PS: the reason why this message was not sent privately is because I would like all forumers to know exactly the levels of deviation they are allowed in order to keep within the framework of the forum. And I appologise if my post offended anyone . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThornyRose Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 quote:Originally posted by dragon:Islam are fighting for equalityIslam is fighting for 1=2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raffiaharonian Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 There are places and then there are other places! Most of the people in here are busy, knowledge thirsty individuals. So , how can we spare them the BS and keep them visiting the Forum? Common sense and courtesy, wishes us to stay within the proper framework of interaction, otherwise this wouldn't have been a Forum but a brothel!We do not know each other, so how can we be so cruel and impolite to each other?Thinking before uttering a word would be more than adequate to sustain our justifiable or unjustifiable anger!After all there are other people involved , who do not have the luxury or wish to join the 'deviation'. Take care and if you disagree with me, please sent me a private note. (lets spare the other readers!) Love you all, once more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted October 13, 2001 Report Share Posted October 13, 2001 You acting like comisar, Raffi. As if all of us here are playing ''kayl-kayl our es tun'' and suddenly you showed up, to tell us how childish we are. Everybody here is doing his best and coming to forum learn something or post some interesting news, articles, views. Don't try to put people here in catagory. At the end, Islam are fighting for equality, so do we, armenians, eccept Ara, who is trying to divide the world between black and white, without US and Taliban, where no place to grey or something between these two ''forces''. I apologize if my word makes no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.