Ashot Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Levon ari teman poxenq michev shapatva verch... es teman enqan nurp temaya vor iskakanits shaters taqanumenq es temayi shurj... namanavand vor dimats@ aprili 24 a galis, shat dzhvara mer hamar es temayi shurj normal yev hangist mtatsel... Ari dataretsnenq es teman heto mi or vor lrivs miqich aveli handart klinenq eli k@sharunakenq... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 LK jan Axpers inch negotiations ?? inchn enq negotiat anum ?? negotiations - yerb mek@ uni inchvor mi ban poxanakelu ? ha ? menq stanaliq unenq yev dimats@ vochinch chenq talis yev chenq talu - Axper jan menq negotiation chenq anum menq PAhanjum enq !!! Ashot has a very valid point LK, could you enlighten/illuminate us is to what Armenians should negotiate to or about? another words your intellectual and thoughts are very unorthodox to Armenians, you must be a very special breed , so please, by all means! speak up your mind freely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK82 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Levon ari teman poxenq michev shapatva verch... es teman enqan nurp temaya vor iskakanits shaters taqanumenq es temayi shurj... namanavand vor dimats@ aprili 24 a galis, shat dzhvara mer hamar es temayi shurj normal yev hangist mtatsel... Ari dataretsnenq es teman heto mi or vor lrivs miqich aveli handart klinenq eli k@sharunakenq... Ashot, lriv hamamitem ku aracharkadzin. dazhe kuzenam toxenk es teman minchev april 24its hetova hamar. Te hnaravora es teman forumi mechits hanel vapshe minchev et ore ga, erp bolores ktnenk karelia es temayi shurch xosal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Chem kartsum vor partadira jnjel, @ntamen@ karoghenq dnel koxqi vra!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK82 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Ashot has a very valid point LK, could you enlighten/illuminate us is to what Armenians should negotiate to or about? another words your intellectual and thoughts are very unorthodox to Armenians, you must be a very special breed , so please, by all means! speak up your mind freely. Edward, im mtkere dzer mtkerits etkanel heru chi, oo inchkanel mart irar nmanvi, amen martel ira hatkutyunere uni vore nranov tarbervuma urishnerits. Yes das tvxoi derum chem es situm, oo yes jogumem shat baner kan vor es sitits es karam kaxem, te im kyankum uxutyun, te hasarak amen orva zruts. En inchvor verabervuma es postin, Edward jan, es poste batsveler mi kani amis arach, mi urish xosaksutyan mech, hartse sa er, yete mtneink negotiationer mech, inch kpahancheyi. Te avel oo pakas baner em grel im posti mech himi aveli lavem haskanum. El chgitem vonts asem vor aveli parz lini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Point taken. This thread was created a while back with the idea in mind that, if there were negotiations, what would you want. Was it a good response, now that I look back on it, no it wasn’t, it has many flaws, and there are many things that don’t detail my thoughts. But the fact that people here are acting out of paranoia towards me because there have been some other questionable people who come to this site looking to kill the Armenian spirit, doesn’t justify their reaction either. I can also question their dedication to Armenians in general when they allow some outsiders to influence how they treat other Armenians. Either way, Im not one of those people, and I clarified that several times, those who continue with their assaults should note that they’re not so great themselves, and we all make mistakes. The one I made didn’t hurt anyone, didn’t make anyone bleed, or anything of the sort. Whatever I did, I did to myself, and others saw it. The irony of this whole thing is how I feel as though I need to prove to some of you that Im not a sell out, and that Im as proud about who I am as the proudest person in this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z'areh Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 LK, the problem with your approach does not lie in the fact (and the right) that you give opinions, the problem is really in the frustration on the part of Armenians in general, perhaps me particular, that we hear about "negotiations", "compromise", "normalization" etc... without hearing anything positive from the other side, be it Turkey or heaven forbid Azerbaijan, or the whole Western political mindset that seem to be content with kissing Turkish ass. When you come and mention genocide and compromises, to me at least, those are two words that drive a lot of emotions. The problem with the Turks towards us is that when Turks say no genocide has happened, if you really listen carefully what they are saying to us (not to the world, but to us) is "we did it, we succeeded, if you continue to cause trouble same thing shall happen again", this is the message they are sending us if one analyses -even superficially- their political/historical/economic/military policies and public pronouncements. There is so much hate towards us that there is not even the slightest shred of remorse towards the a people who were eliminated from their ancestral homeland, call it genocide, massacres, mutual civil war or whatever. So forgive me, and some of us, if we are in no mood to hear about compromises, especially April 24 being right around the corner. Sorry if you got hurt by some comments, but to me, even if we take emotions out of this, I find your logic very flawed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Aran papat a. As a person who has lost his mother to an illness, and looks at his father as his personal savior, and is willing to give his life for him at any moment, in a millisecond. I want you to know how hard it is for me too hold myself back, and not come after you when you least expect it. For the sake of your best interest and mine, I'm calling off our meeting, there is no way I can promise you a positive solution to any hantipum we have, and internet-beef is not a reason I would be willing to be in lockup again for. What a filthy hypocrate you are. You get what you ask for. When you started the 'ara' talk, you must have been ready to face the consequence. If you care for your father, what makes you think Arpa's children don't. This is not a pissing contes. You do what you have to do gyada. Talking is cheap. I'm from Glendale. PM me say where and when we can meet so you can show me what spreading is. It doesn't matter where you are from, I'm also from Glendale, and if you ever get in my face ill show you who I really am then. Internet beef is cheap, I said private message me so I can better explain to you, not so I can meet you and fight you. Do I need to tell you again that this is not a pissing contest? Cut the crap and get to the bottom of the question. You got a problem you go and solv it. Otherwise, this nonsense is going to far. You'll get a chance to find out after we meet. You're threats have put you in an awkward situation which you probably never imagined you would be. If we ever do meet, they will be on my terms, not yours. Keep your threats to yourself you're not scaring me. P.S Its funny how you've already amounted to personal threats on an online forum. Crying baby. "im willing to talk in private if your hving a hard time understanding me. I didnt spred anything, and if you think thats spreading, then you havent seen spreading." Next time when you say the above words to someone, be also ready to stand behind your words. tellins is nothing. why don't you make me? Because I don't want to make you cry, I don't want to make anyone cry, I want to make people happy, and smile, and glad to be an Armenian. I would cry if I knew it would bring happiness to my country, unfortunately the only happiness it would bring is to people who think like you. Therefore I don't cry in life, or at least I try not to. Can' you see I'm in tears already L L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 lav chi t@gherq sa lav chi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KabirBoy Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I have been reading this Forum for a very long time, and noticed that members such as LK82 are the missing gap in the Forum and armenian Society in general. This Forum is lacking the necessary people such as LK82 to put an end to the constant bashing and forceing everyone to take sides. It is very necessary for armenians and garabagchis to understand that negotiation is the only key for the Turkic - Azerbachani - and armenian conflicts and resolution. I solute open minded people and would like to see more of this type of conversations excluding any type of insults and bashes. As myself being a refuge, who was forced out of his home, from my motherland and a house that was built by my ancestors, over 700 years ago. I understand the pain of both sides, everyone at some point goes trough hardship. Please state your own opinions as I don't intend to get involved in any bashing or insulting conversations. I would appreciate noble statements! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 KabirBoy welcome to Hyeforum, In my opinion Armenians are all for a negotiated settlement as long there are no unjust demands forced upon us. I'm sure you know where the war rhetoric eminates from. We are eagerly waiting for your noble statements and opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK82 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Arrtta-kingdom yes voch ku havese unem vochel zhamanake, vochel en tarikna im mot vor internetov martkants het zhamo linem, vor darumes aprum apeh jan. Havata du indz ches uzum tenas, do proste chgites vor ches uzum tenas. Hajox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I have been reading this Forum for a very long time, and noticed that members such as LK82 are the missing gap in the Forum and armenian Society in general. This Forum is lacking the necessary people such as LK82 to put an end to the constant bashing and forceing everyone to take sides. It is very necessary for armenians and garabagchis to understand that negotiation is the only key for the Turkic - Azerbachani - and armenian conflicts and resolution. I solute open minded people and would like to see more of this type of conversations excluding any type of insults and bashes. As myself being a refuge, who was forced out of his home, from my motherland and a house that was built by my ancestors, over 700 years ago. I understand the pain of both sides, everyone at some point goes trough hardship. Please state your own opinions as I don't intend to get involved in any bashing or insulting conversations. I would appreciate noble statements! Any particular reasons why in the two difference occasions you have written Armenian you did not capilise the A? One of the two occasions was just after Turkic Azerbaijani, you capilised both. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK82 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I have been reading this Forum for a very long time, and noticed that members such as LK82 are the missing gap in the Forum and armenian Society in general. This Forum is lacking the necessary people such as LK82 to put an end to the constant bashing and forceing everyone to take sides. It is very necessary for armenians and garabagchis to understand that negotiation is the only key for the Turkic - Azerbachani - and armenian conflicts and resolution. I solute open minded people and would like to see more of this type of conversations excluding any type of insults and bashes. As myself being a refuge, who was forced out of his home, from my motherland and a house that was built by my ancestors, over 700 years ago. I understand the pain of both sides, everyone at some point goes trough hardship. Please state your own opinions as I don't intend to get involved in any bashing or insulting conversations. I would appreciate noble statements! Kabir-boy, Im glad that you think Armenians should begin disscussion more than argument and fights with each other over missunderstandings. But this post in its original form, is flawed, i do admit. It does not specify anything which Armenians have been longing for during the past century. I appreciate your effort, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Any particular reasons why in the two difference occasions you have written Armenian you did not capilise the A? One of the two occasions was just after Turkic Azerbaijani, you capilised both. Thanks. Yeah good that you spot it out. I did too and I also wondered as to why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) ===. As myself being a refuge, who was forced out of his home, from my motherland and a house that was built by my ancestors, over 700 years ago. I understand the pain of both sides, everyone at some point goes trough hardship. Please state your own opinions as I don't intend to get involved in any bashing or insulting conversations. I would appreciate noble statements! KafirBoy, good to see you. You say you are a "refuge" Nooot! Rwfuge to whom? I'm sure you mean "refugEE". Youb are lucky, you should thank your stars and moons, i.e we Armenians don't sever peoples' heads. It is also good to see that you were "out of your home" with your head still attached to your body. One can only wish that our ancetors were also "forced" out of their 7000 year ancetral homes with their heads still attached to their necks instead of separately. If you behave, lay aside condescending and patronizing rhetoric we'll let you keep your head over your shoulder otherwise.... Edited April 10, 2008 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Welcome to the Forum Kabir jan, I am glad that you are eager to have this discussion, and in a noble way. However I would like for you to make sure that you do not discriminate anyone in here nor insult anyone, as a matter a fact, as Yervant noted you did not capitalize the A in Armenian, is there a reason as to why? we could understand the first one might have been a typo but the second one surely seemed to be intended! Please refrain from intentional discrimination and our conversations, and arguments shall be as noble as possible!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashot Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 LK jan, mi xusapi handipeluts, sa qez hamar aol i chat chi, vochel mirc a... ari du im het paymanavorvi mihat surch xmelu, indz shata hetaqrqrum qez het tsanotanal@... Vontsvor sheshtetsi arach, vorosh baner kan vor internetov anhnarina batsatrvel, aveli lav klini vor irar handipenq, surch xmenq, tsanotanaq, yev ays bolor mtutsyunner@ mer michev lusavorven!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK82 Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Ashot jan, indzi xorurt petk chi te sa incha oo inch chi. PM ov yes lriv batsatrelem kez vonts em nayum es hartsi shurch. Hajox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 joghovurd - Verch Tveq - esli xoselu dzev chi - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 (edited) Mer yeritasardner@ shutov k@ khandavarven nman khoskerits. Menq shat enq tesel nman mardiq or gan aystegh yev arajarken yerkkhosanq-dialogue yerb nrants miak npatak@ menakhosanq e, aysinqn menq kasenq douq k@ lreq. Kar zhamanak or menq khosnak chuneiynq. Yete irants npatak@ erkkhosnak -dialogue e nranq piti gitenan Yerevan@ kam Stepanakert@ vortegh en. Ima, nrants tramanqov ayd yerkirner@ chi go en. By their "logic" there are no Armenia or Artsakh. Yeah, Yeah! Bury your furkey ostrich head in the sands of ana- sikmish- tolia. SURPRISE! THERE IS AN INDEPENDANT ARMENIA AND AN INDEPENDENT ARTSAKH. Edited April 11, 2008 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LK82 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) Arpa jan, en im orva pahelu dzevi hamar ku hantep, ku tariki martu hantep, entunumem vor da sxala exel im komits. Yes kezi chem chananchum, nu es situm inchkan gitem vochvoku chem chananchum. Bayts ku tariki hamar, yev im ku tarike che hargelu hamar, amot ezgalov neroxutyun em asum. Yes mi taruts avela tarber siterum, tarber texer paykarem anum mer azgy hamar, karam im anune tam et siteri yete kuzes, bayts andzampt kez ktam menak PM'ov. Im es arachi poste lriv anhacheli statsvets im hamar, oo statsvets vortev karcher oo sxaler shat banerov. Bayts voch mi tepkum yes im azgy dem eres chem teki vochmi ayl azgy hamar kamel hyei hamar. Es postov indzi shatere sxal en haskatsel, vor ariteh tak uxelu, kashxatem dzez ubidit anem vor es bolor situatione petk chi lini. Yes indz tuyl chem ta vor stex, es sitits mi bazar durs ga, voch te patvi hartsa, ayl azgy. Im kartsikna. Edited April 11, 2008 by LK82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 ok joghovurd karranq es vijabanutyun@ verchatsnenq ?? yekek norist sksenq - yev iraru vra Mur ch@pahenq !!! yes sa vropes dzer amenalav @enken em asum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 (edited) Pardon me. I am an idiot. I failed to see the subtopic of this thread where it says "Armenian fuc*ish RELATIONSHIP. Relationship? What does that mean? Is there a furkish embassy in Yerevan or an Armenian Embassy in kakankara? Edited April 11, 2008 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KabirBoy Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Pardon me. I am an idiot. Sir Arpa please don't be to harsh on your self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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