GreekAussie Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 At the conclusion of Andrew Goldberg’s “the Armenian Genocide”, PBS televised a discussion between Akcam, Balakian, that clown McCarthy and some Turkish official. The Turkish guy mentioned "Admiral Bristol". Turks seem to mention this character a lot. I recall this Admiral Bristol had many harsh words for Greeks and Armenians. For me, this guy represents the change in US government interests and the abandonment of Greeks and Armenians in favour of the Turks. So who is this Admiral Bristol ? His Wiki page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lambert_Bristol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 His bitterness is partly due to the losses sustained by British forces. As usual they tried to blame somebody else for their own misery. Often his memos of that period were taken out of the context. I think Domino is quite knowledgeable about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 At the conclusion of Andrew Goldberg’s “the Armenian Genocide”, PBS televised a discussion between Akcam, Balakian, that clown McCarthy and some Turkish official. The Turkish guy mentioned "Admiral Bristol". Turks seem to mention this character a lot. I recall this Admiral Bristol had many harsh words for Greeks and Armenians. For me, this guy represents the change in US government interests and the abandonment of Greeks and Armenians in favour of the Turks. So who is this Admiral Bristol ? His Wiki page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Lambert_Bristol He was a fervant supporter of the Chestler concession. He barred access to murder cites to stop reports. A lot of things could be said about him. One of the worst cases of distortions from his part was ctually forcing eyewitnesses of the Smyrna fire to change their versions. When he left the Ottoman and finally the Chestler concession was a failure he plain and simply admitted that the Ottoman autorities ordred the destruction of the Armenians. Yeh, he said many harsh things about Greeks and Armenians, particularly the Greeks, he was known for his Greekophobia, part of it was due to the fact that time on the Western part the Greeks were considered as a driven force against the Ankara established Kemalist force. Bristol was well aware that with the Armenians and Greeks in the region if their land claims are given legimicy, both will control the market and have all the shares, when the Americans and western investors were simply replacing the Armenians. The same happened a little before the war when the Ottoman with the Baghdad railroad project promessed the Germans contacts in the east, basically replacing the Armenians. Bristol was placed there specifically to profit of the potential new market. It was basically because of him that just ater the republic was declared the US already had commercial contracts prepared and signed. He achieved one part, but he failed the Chestler concession because the Kemalists outsmarted him and because the idiot was dumb enough to believe every craps and empy promesses they made to him. Revisionists often uses him as evidence, while he has no credibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 The responsibility about financial and material loses inflicted on Armenians should be equally distributed between Turks and Europeans. Europeans are as guilty as the Turks for the misery they created. The Chester concessions are only the tip of the iceberg and instead of offering "help" to Armenia, Europeans should PAY THE BILL that is long overdue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) The responsibility about financial and material loses inflicted on Armenians should be equally distributed between Turks and Europeans. Europeans are as guilty as the Turks for the misery they created. The Chester concessions are only the tip of the iceberg and instead of offering "help" to Armenia, Europeans should PAY THE BILL that is long overdue! Entirly agree, particularly the Brits, they confiscated German banks transfering all the money comming from the Ottoman as so-called war debts when those were transfered from the selling and looting of Armenian properties. All the supposed collected help for Armenian refugees represents a fraction of what the Europeans owe Armenians. They participated to the looting. I don't think though that this should go to the Diaspora, if ever this is given back it should go to Armenia. Edited July 24, 2007 by Domino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 (edited) I also think that the denial by UK (the only western country who ever actually said explicitly that it wasn't a genocide) is not only politically motivated. Edited July 24, 2007 by Domino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted July 24, 2007 Report Share Posted July 24, 2007 I don't think though that this should go to the Diaspora, if ever this is given back it should go to Armenia. Yeap! And when the "time" comes and when my credit card company asks me about the money I owe, I would explain to them that I don't owe them anything since they paid their debt to Armenia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellektor Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 To better expose the character of this Bristol piece of work: The AG deniers usually argue that while Morgenthau's accounts are considered, the other embassador, Bristol's tale is ignored by the Armenians. The thing is Morgenthau was in Turkey during the Genocide whereas Admiral Bristol, became U.S. High Commissioner in Turkey after WWI and came to Turkey in 1920. This quote may shed some light on Bristol's objectivity and honesty: "The Armenians are a race like the Jews, they have little or no national spirit and poor moral character." Admiral Mark L. Bristol, U.S. High Commissioner to Turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 (edited) To better expose the character of this Bristol piece of work: The AG deniers usually argue that while Morgenthau's accounts are considered, the other embassador, Bristol's tale is ignored by the Armenians. The thing is Morgenthau was in Turkey during the Genocide whereas Admiral Bristol, became U.S. High Commissioner in Turkey after WWI and came to Turkey in 1920. This quote may shed some light on Bristol's objectivity and honesty: "The Armenians are a race like the Jews, they have little or no national spirit and poor moral character." Admiral Mark L. Bristol, U.S. High Commissioner to Turkey. Actually, Bristol wasn't even the ambassador who followed Morgenthau, the other has reported the same exact stuff. Bristol was sent later to secure American contracts like the BS Chestler Concession, he's objective was to sell Turkey, continued crimes against Armenians would have played against this. His team has covered up one of the worst fire in this history of humanity in terms of number of people who've burned alive, he forced witnesses to make false confessions, barred access to the media to massacre sites. He's a criminal. Edited August 30, 2007 by Domino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted August 30, 2007 Report Share Posted August 30, 2007 I would really love to see him being tried in a court of law posthumously, together with his bosses and benefactors as criminals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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