The Situation In Lebanon

[Sassun]

I also forgot to mention the release of all Palestinian prisoners. I think that the return of the refugees should be traded for something else rather than just given up, like some kind of compensation. A one-state (or Isratine) solution wouldn't be good, there will be deep divisions. A two state solution is the best plan with Jerusalem being divided into two.

I was thinking more on the lines of a Jewish / Palestinian federation and autonomy for each community! It's also not a matter of whether or not it wouldn't be good, but whether or not it is avoidable at this point... Many analysts and academics have observed that Israel is burning the bridges for a two-state solution. Time is definitely not on Israel's side, though it may think it is. Plus, the idea of a one-state solution is increasingly picking up its pace, and is being advocated by numerous lobby/activist groups around the world. And remember how powerful civic activism is, it had a huge role to play in the downfall of apartheid in S. Africa.

 

Anyhow, in the end the Jews have by their actions actually inspired and encouraged anti-Semitism, and anti-Semitism has been used to justify Israeli actions which have further boosted anti-Semitism, and so whatever the solution is, whether one-state or two-state, the Jews' future in the region is very much in doubt, in terms of their relations with their neighbors, which is a must if one is to survive economically (even if one has access to the sea). Remember that a two-state solution would also leave Israel with a huge Palestinian minority, which will in another 50 years at most reach parity in numbers in Israel-proper (minus West Bank, Gaza, and E. Jerusalem). Unless Israel will strip these people of their citizenship and deport them (which will be ethnic cleansing), Israel cannot otherwise deal with this issue except by giving its citizens equal rights, equal say, equal representation! Whichever way one looks at it, the end result will be the same. The Jews' future in the region is not looking good, and the more they continue with their greed the more they will endanger their chances for actually being allowed to remain in the land after there is an agreement. And of course, many have argued that Israel is a society that lives off wars. In peacetime it will lose all its luster. It will become just another "normal" state and pass away from the scene of world interest and media coverage. That will indeed signal the demise of zionism. Zionism is an attention whore. It lives off attention. Taking away the attention is like taking away the Oxygen bottle from someone who is unable to breathe.

Edited June 17, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

I also forgot to mention the release of all Palestinian prisoners. I think that the return of the refugees should be traded for something else rather than just given up, like some kind of compensation. A one-state (or Isratine) solution wouldn't be good, there will be deep divisions. A two state solution is the best plan with Jerusalem being divided into two.

Yes, but keep in mind that compensation is not the only issue here... even if these people are compensated, they cannot remain stateless... West Bank cannot absorb all those people, the number of refugees tops 2.5 million... and Gaza is already overpopulated and if a population movement from Gaza into West Bank does not take place soon, the place is ready to burst...

 

Besides, even on the issue of compensation, Israel wants to drag its feet. It insists that the compensation for Palestinian refugees is offset by the compensation claims of Iraqi Jews who left Iraq of their own accord! The Iraqi Jews' compensation claims as advocated by Israel are actually a myth. Do you know how much money the zionazis smuggled out of Iraq on the basis that it belonged to Jews? More than 1/3rds of the entire Iraqi treasury in that period. I am not kidding. And the zionists were the ones who oversaw and carried out this procedure. When the so-called refugees arrived in Israel, they did not receive any of their money back, and to this day they haven't. The Israelis now are making claims that the Iraqi Jews must be compensated and therefore the two cases cancel each other out.

Edited June 17, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

Meanwhile, Siniora made a statement saying that he will not spare an effort to find the culprits behind the vicious attack on Israel. I kid you not.

 

Stay tuned, Siniora will find those who were responsible for this vicious attack on Israel, while bombs go off on a daily basis killing Lebanese civilians here and there. But what do we care about those, they died for "the truth".

Edited June 17, 2007 by Sassun

[AK-47]

Meanwhile, Siniora made a statement saying that he will not spare an effort to find the culprits behind the vicious attack on Israel. I kid you not.

 

Stay tuned, Siniora will find those who were responsible for this vicious attack on Israel, while bombs go off on a daily basis killing Lebanese civilians here and there. But what do we care about those, they died for "the truth".

Maniak eh as martuh. This is the same guy who cried on national TV while pleading for mercy from Israel without even ordering ANY retaliatory attack on the Zionists while they missiled Lebanon sector by sector. Vicious attack yegher...

[AK-47]

Remember that a two-state solution would also leave Israel with a huge Palestinian minority, which will in another 50 years at most reach parity in numbers in Israel-proper (minus West Bank, Gaza, and E. Jerusalem). Unless Israel will strip these people of their citizenship and deport them (which will be ethnic cleansing), Israel cannot otherwise deal with this issue except by giving its citizens equal rights, equal say, equal representation! Whichever way one looks at it, the end result will be the same.

Yeah that is quite true. A fact that people generally do not know is that 1 out of every 5 Israeli is a Palestinian (not counting West Bank, Gaza and E. Jerusalem). And that number is growing to a point that there are certain Apartheid marriage laws between Palestinians and Jews.

[Sassun]

Maniak eh as martuh. This is the same guy who cried on national TV while pleading for mercy from Israel without even ordering ANY retaliatory attack on the Zionists while they missiled Lebanon sector by sector. Vicious attack yegher...

Those were tears of joy AK-47....

 

Don't worry, what he and his ilk did during the war will never be forgotten by those who lost a loved one or a friend during that war.

 

These pictures were taken while Israel was bombing South Lebanon, Beqa'a and South Beirut to kingdom come with American "smart bombs":

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2006/07/25/wmid25.jpg

 

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/images/0729-08.jpg

 

If there is justice on earth , he will be assassinated.

[Sassun]

This is as disgusting as the above:

 

UNIFIL says Katyushas fired into Israel "serious breach" of truce. Ի՛նչ վտանգաւոր փոս է: Ուշադի՛ր մէջը չինաք հանկարծ:

 

WHAT A JOKE!!!!!!!

 

Israel violates Lebanese airspace EVERY DAY, it does SONIC BOOMS over Lebanon including all the way to TRIPOLI ALMOST EVERY DAY, it shoots at SHEPHERDS INSIDE Lebanon EVERY week or so, it KIDNAPS civilians from LEBANESE soil every week or so, it orders its fighter jets to do nose-diving maneuvers over UNIFIL ships, and none of these are considered "serious breaches"!!!!

 

UNIFIL = United Nations' Israeli Force in Lebanon !!!!!!

 

**

 

"Olmert 'will ask Bush to help get UNIFIL troops on Syrian border'"

 

Now we know that for sure, some very high profile killings or high-casualty bombings will take place in the coming days.

Edited June 17, 2007 by Sassun

[annannimusss]

Sassun, if there is Justice on this Earth Hezbollah will go away. The only puppet is Hassan Nasrallah, he is the puppet of Syria and Iran. Your fellow Lebanese are dying because of them and you say Saniora is a puppet, he is doing a great job with what he has. I can't wait till there is a new President in Lebanon who will joing with the Majority government and help make Lebanon a better place.

 

 

[annannimusss]

Lebanese Army Close to Winning War Against Terrorists

The Lebanese army is close to winning the war against Fatah al-Islam terrorists in the northern refugee camp of Nahr al-Bared, the daily An Nahar reported Sunday.

It said developments over the past two days have indicated that "something is going to happen within the coming few days" regarding the confrontation in Nahr al-Bared after troops tightened the noose around the enemy holed up inside the battered camp and the seizure of an ammunition cache recently as well as the militants' deterioration in resistance.

 

Government troops had already wrested control of major Fatah al-Islam positions in Nahr al-Bared, forcing many extremist fighters to slip away or surrender to the mainstream Fatah movement.

 

An Nahar said the army on Saturday further advanced towards Fatah al-Islam's main strongholds following heavy daylong gunbattles.

It said several buildings received "direct hits" when two Lebanese military choppers fired four rockets before sundown Saturday on Fatah al-Islam hideouts in the UNRWA school compound.

 

The daily said contacts were underway to isolate Nahr al-Bared from the old southern sector of the camp, where a joint Palestinian security force would be deployed after handing over Fatah al-Islam militants to the Lebanese army, which has made an unflinching commitment to finish off the terrorists.

 

The state-run National News Agency said on Sunday the Lebanese army has wrested control over 90 percent of Fatah al-Islam strongholds in Nahr al-Bared.

 

It said the southern and eastern parts of Nahr al-Bared were under "full army control."

 

LBCI Evening News said Lebanese troops on Sunday took control of the Samed zone, a main Fatah al-Islam stronghold in the camp following heavy gunbattles.

 

TV footage showed Lebanese flags fluttering above buildings in the Samed area.(

 

[Sassun]

Lebanese Army Close to Winning War Against Terrorists

loool. do you know what they have been saying? For the past month they have been saying that they have control over the Samed and Ta'awunieh buildings , and then they say the next day that they have tightened the noose around those buildings , then they say that they finally took control over those buildings "for good", and the next day they say, fierce battles raging at Samed & Ta'awunieh...

And then they also say the army is inside the camp but then they say that fierce battles are raging on the outskirts of the camp...

By now, no one in Lebanon actually believes a word of what the army is saying.

 

Btw the flags were on only one building (in other words, a morale boost photo-op) and that was not the Samed building.

 

I also hear from good sources (remember, I used to be in the army ) that the number of dead soldiers is faaaaaaaaaaaar higher than those announced. At least 20 are being killed every day. The number now exceeds the 250 mark.

Edited June 17, 2007 by Sassun

[annannimusss]

Stop saying your Bullshit, give me a source, lies are not welcome, I can show you a picture of every soldier that has died so far, don't give me this 20 a day crap.Your saying this almost proudly that your countrymen are dieing by the hands of outsiders-terrorists, muslim and Christian are being killed, have you no heart, have you no sympathy for the soldiers and the innocent civilians caught in the crossfire.

 

Here is a small bio and pictures of the soldiers who have died.

 

http://adserver.naharnet.com/pub/martyrs/

Edited June 17, 2007 by SakoPasha

[Sassun]

I can show you a picture of every soldier that has died so far

And yet that does not say anything about those who died and whose names were not announced. Only today the Army announced the names of 5 soldiers killed. The day before, 9 were killed. These are the announced numbers. The announced names top the 100 already. There are bomb shelters in the camp, and Fateh al Islam is in pretty good shape. The Army said 2 weeks ago that it will 'finish off' this affair 'in the next 24 hours', but 2 weeks have passed and every day or two, they repeat the same thing (today they said the same). Methinks they are better off not saying anything and doing their work and then announcing the final results, because they are otherwise making a fool of themselves. But it is funny you are so much into the army martyrs thing. Was it not Samir Geagea himself who perpetrated a massacre against the army , and then collaborated with Syria again, against it?

 

Your saying this almost proudly that your countrymen are dieing by the hands of outsiders-terrorists

Yes, I have no heart. For those who stood by and served tea to those who killed my FRIEND. No heart, whatsoever. They cannot have their cake and eat it too. They cannot expect me to support them when they were having cake & tea while people were being massacred in cold blood. Now SHUT UP, because you have NO IDEA what you are talking about. NO IDEA.

Edited June 17, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

This is an excellent article in the Israeli press:

 

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871983.html

 

Take note of the following part:

 

But the hope that Hamas' thugs and Fatah's good-for-nothings will finish the work of that well-known righteous man, Sharon, and his flunkies in the government and army is no more than a warped delusion. Eight years of rioting and terror ended in the liquidation of South Africa's bantustans and their inclusion in a unified state governed by the black majority. This dream of Palestinian protectorates - Hamastan in Gaza and the Fatahland enclaves in the West Bank - is similarly the end of any solution based on dividing the land: Israel in agreed-upon borders based on the Green Line and Palestine on the other side. If we do not quickly wake up from this dream and rescue what remains of the two-state vision, we will truly be left with a choice between the plague - an apartheid regime - and the cholera: the Jewish state's replacement with a binational state between the Jordan River and the sea. Including the Gaza Strip.

 

Also take note that if the Palestinian parliament does not okay the emergency government within the next 60 days, it will be null and void. The Palestinian parliament is majority Hamas, and most of the MPs are in Israeli jails.

Edited June 18, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

Sako , what do you have to say about this:

 

Today, 11:40 am : Since early morning fierce confrontations are taking place in the Nahr el Bared camp, and the Lebanese Army is bombarding with artillery and tanks the southern areas of the camp after the retreat of Fateh al Islam units towards the old camp, especially the southern part, that is, adjacent to Nahr el Bared and the railroad track. And according to some information, the Army, after the visit by its commander, Michel Suleiman, has started wrapping up the fight, as its forces have begun to encircle the buildings surrounding UNRWA [note by Sassun: for the past 2 weeks they have been saying they surrounded the UNRWA schools!!!] and it is expected that they would raise the Lebanese flag on them in the coming few hours. It is also expected that some designated units, in cooperation with the Lebanese Armmy and the Palestinian factions, would enter the square that Fateh al Islam units have control over.

 

Today, 1:05 pm : The artillery shelling concentrates on the hideouts of the Fateh al Islam terrorists in the area of the UNRWA schools, which contain 7 stories below ground.

 

Today, 2:32 pm : 3 Lebanese troops killed in clashes with militants at Nahr Al-Bared refugee camp (Reuters)

 

**

 

So, they are bombing themselves, I guess.

 

Btw, how come the army is begging Hamas to do something?

Edited June 18, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

This is funny, the love affair betw. Tzipi Livni (and Israel more generally) and Saudi Arabia grows... She has even published an article in the Saudi-funded Arabic-language newspaper Al Sharq al Awsat :

 

The Peace Alternative, by Tzipi Livni

 

For too long, the Middle East has been governed by zero-sum logic. One side's loss was seen as the other's gain. This thinking has brought much suffering to our region. It has helped polarize each side's view of the other and hurt those seeking common ground.

 

The truth is that the peoples of the Middle East share the same fate. We are destined to be neighbors. Our futures are inevitably linked together. And no peace will be lasting if it fails to take this fact into account.

 

This is as true for Israel as it is for other nations in the region. We have built a strong and dynamic democratic [only for Jews] society that has much to be proud of. But for all of the country's achievements, we remain a nation struggling to realize our basic right to a peaceful existence side by side with our neighbors in the region.

 

Too often Israel's positions have been misrepresented or misunderstood [yes, like the massacre of 1200 civilians for the so-called return of 2 soldiers. Poor you. How misrepresented and misunderstood you are !]. Too often there has been a gap between perception and reality [we were hallucinating, you did not kill 1200 people last summer]. And too rarely have the people of the Middle East spoken directly to each other [where were you when the Arab leaders raised their arms up in surrender. Ah, you refused to negotiate.] openly and honestly, not in an effort to lay blame for the past but in an attempt to share responsibility for the future.

 

I would like, therefore, to take this opportunity to share with you, directly, Israel's vision and its concerns, so that we can begin a genuine dialogue for the benefit of the region as a whole.

 

Israel's raison d'être was, and remains, to be a peaceful democratic and Jewish State [that is an oxymoron. You cannot be democratic and at the same time define your state as a state only for Jews.] - with these values existing in harmony and not in contradiction. It is these very values that lead us to embrace the vision of two homelands, two States - Israel and Palestine - living side by side in peace and security, and to pursue genuine peace with all our neighbors.

 

We have no desire to control the lives of Palestinians [that is why you are starving the Gazans and occupying the West Bank]. Palestinian terrorists have targeted Israelis [but Israeli terrorists have not targeted Palestinians?], and we must defend ourselves against them [and they cannot defend themselves against you?], but they have also brought tragedy to Palestinians [yes, if you kill me, you can say, "but he asked for it!" If a man rapes a woman, he can say, "but you were asking for it"]. As recent events in Gaza have shown, while the terrorists may claim to be advancing Palestinian rights, they have succeeded only in undermining them [what do you care about Palestinian rights? You should be the last to talk about Palestinian rights. And last I checked it was your new-found "partners for peace", the Fateh, who were throwing Hamas members off rooftops, torturing them in the basement of the Preventive Security, where jeeps bearing Israeli license plates were discovered by Hamas; and executing Palestinians based on the fact that they were bearded and must therefore be Hamas supporters...)].

 

Israel has a vested interest, shared by moderates [you mean puppets] throughout the region, in the creation of a stable, prosperous and peaceful neighbor that is committed to advancing the Palestinian State [yes, advancing the Palestinian state. By annexing more Palestinian land, building an apartheid wall, and more and more settlements], not opposing the Jewish one. As we demonstrated through the disengagement from Gaza, Israel is ready to take painful steps to advance this goal [painful? yes, giving away what you have stolen, after you were spoiled for 40 years by the international community, so much so that you thought it was rightfully yours, must be very painful. I bet that was far more painful than the losses that the Palestinians have sustained since you terrorist Nazis set foot in the peaceful land that Palestine was]. But we need to know that our partners too are ready for historic compromise [compromise on what? So I have $10,000 and you steal it all from me, then you say, "I need to know that my partner is ready for a compromise. if he is, then I will give him $6,000?], and that our sacrifices will bring a secure and lasting peace. We too deserve a political horizon [you do not deserve anything other than going to the place where you came from. In your case that'd be Poland].

 

The principle of two homelands for two peoples is not new [the principle of two states on a land that belonged to one people, however, is NEW]. And yet, its deeper meaning is not always appreciated. The establishment of Israel provided the answer to the historic national aspirations of the Jewish people [you mean greed and theft], those living in the Holy Land and those outside it, those refugees fleeing the horrors of the Holocaust [ohhhh, are you sure you are Jewish, or you are a Holocaustist?] and those that left or were expelled [no one was expelled] from Arab and other lands.

 

This must also be the true calling of the future State of Palestine - to be the solution to the national claims of the Palestinian people, those in the West Bank and Gaza and those in the Diaspora [it is not diaspora. it is refugee camps], those languishing in refugee camps [and I presume the blame goes not to you but to those who are refusing to naturalize them. but then you expect others to naturalize the Palestinians when you would not do so yourself. you tried in Lebanon, and failed. it seems you have not given up on that dream, you and USA, and are trying to apply the naturalization through your newfound Sunni allies Siniora-Hariri/Saudi Arabia starting in Nahr el Bared] and those who enjoy equal rights as citizens in other States [but those who are citizens of your country do not enjoy equal rights as citizens]. The establishment of Palestine must itself constitute the answer to the Palestinian claim of return [excuse me? STFU , you are in no position to say what must or must not answer Palestinians' claims for return. You, after all, base YOUR claims of return on your so-called chosenness ] – it cannot remain as an open wound that keeps the conflict alive.

 

The principle that both States must live in peace and security is equally self-evident. The future State of Palestine must not be a terror State. Neither the parties, nor the region can afford it. For this reason, the international community has insisted that the path to Palestinian statehood goes through acceptance of the Quartet principles, including the renunciation of terror [start by renouncing terror yourself. but i realize that'd put an end to the "state of Israel"], and the implementation of Roadmap obligations. Any future settlement will need to include agreed arrangements and guarantees to ensure that security is effectively maintained. These are not obstacles to peace, but foundational principles for it.

 

Israelis and Palestinians will also need to reach agreement on a common boundary, that will include additional territorial withdrawal. There are those who believe that if only we could turn back the hands of time to 1967 all would be resolved. But, in 1967, there was no Palestinian State, there was no link between the West Bank and Gaza, and there was no security. An international boundary between Israel and a viable Palestinian State is a new creation that cannot be dictated but needs to be negotiated in accordance with Security Council Resolution 242. [since you recognize this resolution, start by applying it, start by withdrawing from Golan Heights]

I believe that these basic principles express a common interest shared by all those who support Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation. These principles are not pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian. They are, simply, pro-peace. [and we all know how peaceful Israel is]

 

To advance this process, Israelis and Palestinians committed to the Quartet principles have the responsibility to engage each other, face to face, and together create the conditions for successful negotiations.

 

In this context, Prime Minister Olmert and President Abbas have agreed that, alongside needed measures to improve the security and humanitarian situation, they will engage in frequent and substantive discussions on the nature of the future, viable Palestinian State that will be part of any prospective agreement. These talks could provide both sides with the political horizon they seek and offer a way out of the mistrust and insecurity that have characterized Israeli-Palestinian relations for far too long.

 

While there is no substitute for direct Israeli-Palestinian dialogue, the supporting role of the international community will be essential. All those who support the cause of peace need to maintain an uncompromising stand against the extremists, tackle incitement and intolerance [how about your incitement? how about you launch rockets onto the 250,000 settlers who live off incitement and terrorization of unarmed Palestinians?], while strengthening those truly committed to co-existence. Only in this way can we demonstrate that it is dialogue and mutual recognition not violence and rejection which produce results.

 

The role of the Arab world in this context is critical. We have erred in the past by not sufficiently involving constructive regional actors [i am sure that'd be Saudi Arabia... very constructive indeed] in assisting the process of Israeli-Palestinian peace-making.

 

The landmark Arab peace initiative presents just such an opportunity for positive regional engagement. If used correctly [used correctly? LOL... either you apply it, or you don't... what is this "used correctly" concept, is it a new way to skirt applying even the most defeatist of all Arab initiatives?], it can serve not as a dictate that ties the hands of the negotiating parties, but as a vehicle for Arab States to provide support and legitimacy for the agreed compromises that both Israelis and Palestinians will need to make as part of any future agreement negotiated between them.

 

The Arab and Muslim world can also act as a catalyst for Israeli-Palestinian reconciliation by advancing parallel steps towards regional reconciliation and giving all peoples of the Middle East tangible indications of the benefits they will enjoy when the region is at peace. In this way, the principle of normalization can be transformed from a vague reward offered at the end of the conflict into a concrete process that helps bring it about. [how much more normalization do you want? all Arab states have flung their borders wide open to your goods. but it seems the more you are spoiled the more excuses you can come up with. in that respect, you are certainly a creative bunch]

 

There are some encouraging signs that we are moving in this direction. The first historic meeting between Israel and representatives of the Arab League, held in Cairo last month, could signal the beginning of a process of working together to support the cause of peace, and creating the climate in which it can take root. [yes, that climate seems to have started in Iraq, and now democracy is indeed taking shape in our part of the world. indeed, just as dozens of children were killed by American bombs in Afghanistan... not to mention the 1200 people, more than half of them children and youth, you killed in Lebanon last summer, that is an amazing way of creating the climate for "peace"]

 

We should have no illusions. The enemies of co-existence, headed by the likes of Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas will do all in their power to sabotage any prospect for peace. They are determined to transform conflicts that are political and resolvable into ones that are religious and irreconcilable [religious? Sorry, I must have missed something. I guess Judaism is not a religion. ]. If they succeed, they promise a future of violence, hatred and despair for us all. We cannot close our eyes to the dangers they pose and we will not reach peace unless we work together to overcome them.

 

It is not enough for the people of the Middle East to quietly hope that the dark designs of the extremists will not materialize. Yes, there is a peace alternative. It offers a brighter, more secure and more dignified future for us all. It offers an alternative reality for a region built on hope rather than fear. But the people of the Middle East, and their leaders, must have the wisdom and the courage to choose it. [that means that Fateh was very "courageous". Indeed how courageous of them, to throw Hamas men off rooftops, kill bearded men, and flee Gaza and beg for Israelis to save them]

[annannimusss]

Who killed your friend,guess what, muslims blew my dads friend to pieces in Lebanon, then they used a hound and randomly shot one and killed another Armenian Teen by shrapnel to his head. Your loss may have been more recent , but my dad lost many Armenian friends in the war.

[Sassun]

Sako I am not interested in discussing that.

[Shahan Araradian]

...But for all of the country's achievements, we remain a nation struggling to realize our basic right to a peaceful existence side by side with our neighbors in the region...

[Maybe if you stopped the false-flag operations in your neighbors' countries and stopped bombing them, maybe you neighbors will consider having your as neighbors. And maybe if you stopped seeing everyone in the world OTHER than Jews as your enemies, and you saw them as friends and treated them as friends and as humans, then maybe you might have a chance at having neighbors who liked you.

 

As far as I'm concerned, Zionist doctrine is a self-fulfilling prophecy: "The gentiles hate us! They're out to destroy us! Do everything to defend Israel, and launch pre-emptive strikes! Kill or be killed!"]

Edited June 19, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Sassun]

I kid you not, this is an actual news story in Lebanese media:

 

- The Lebanese army has seized the Ta'awunieh building [for the 10,000th time] and continues to make progress towards the UNRWA schools [by now, if we count the 'progress' they have made, they'd be in Syria-proper.... ].

 

Of course, we all know that yesterday, by 11:40 am, the army had begun encircling UNRWA buildings, and wrapping up the entire battle...

 

The army is mulling a mutual ceasefire with Fateh al Islam. That means the army has "won" a crushing victory.

 

In yet other news, the U.S embassy has warned its citizens to leave the country, and to avoid the port & airport roads, as well as downtown Beirut, the South, and the North...

 

So, what are USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia cooking? Aside from Fateh al Islam...

Edited June 19, 2007 by Sassun

[AK-47]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...20/wgaza220.xml

 

Interesting...not only do they cooperate with the Zionists but they abandon their own?

Edited June 20, 2007 by AK-47

[Sassun]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...20/wgaza220.xml

 

Interesting...not only do they cooperate with the Zionists but they abandon their own?

There is nothing surprising about this. Anyone who collaborates with the zionists even as the zionists occupy their land and would not hesitate to massacre them all once they have no use for them, would be able to abandon their own, given that the former is the ultimate treason....

 

On another note, here is what Lebanese media has to report on the Leb. Army's "progress" in the Nahr el Bared camp:

 

11:20 am: Confrontations and battles continue in the Nahr el Bared camp, and in particular in the area of Samed and Ta'awunieh,, with what remains of the Fateh al Islam gang in that area. Meanwhile, the shelling of the UNRWA schools where some leaders of the terrorist organization have barricaded themselves, continues.

 

Yesterday they announced that the army had finally totally captured UNRWA schools and planted the Lebanese flag on top. And that they also control the entire area of Ta'awunieh, Samed, and Naji al Ali!

 

May I draw your attention what I said two days ago about Samed & Ta'awunieh?

 

For the past month they have been saying that they have control over the Samed and Ta'awunieh buildings , and then they say the next day that they have tightened the noose around those buildings , then they say that they finally took control over those buildings "for good", and the next day they say, fierce battles raging at Samed & Ta'awunieh...

Edited June 20, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

So, you wonder why we chant 'death to America'? Here's a hint:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3415479,00.html

 

Enjoy, your tax money is being put to use for a "noble cause" : killing us.

Edited June 20, 2007 by Sassun

[Arpa]

So, you wonder why we chant 'death to America'? Here's a hint:

 

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3415479,00.html

 

Enjoy, your tax money is being put to use for a "noble cause" : killing us.

Only if Bush and his ilk would remove their noses out of that childish Sunday School "book" of "history/schmistory" then maybe we will have "Peace on earth and goodwil toward men"-

Luke.2

[14] Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

Edited June 20, 2007 by Arpa

[Sip]

Enjoy, your tax money is being put to use for a "noble cause" : killing us.

 

As our dear president Bush would say, we fight you there so we don't have to fight you here.

[Sassun]

As our dear president Bush would say, we fight you there so we don't have to fight you here.

Actually I believe it went the other way around. But then again, as us Middle Easterners would say, Bush is a-bush.

 

And if you really believe Bush's cr*p than I have nothing more to say to you on this issue ! Israel has been a liability and not an asset. If it had not been for Israel, the M.E today would have been a prosperous and peaceful place, and USA would have enjoyed more than the oil it gets today by holding to gun to people's heads. But then you are more than willing to send your tax money to the "chosen people" and to fund your country's imperial wars on the basis that "they fight there so that our kids would not die in NY". There where? There in Iraq. Where there supposedly were WMD. Oh, OK. Very well, send your kids to be buried in mass graves in foreign lands and to have their heads chopped off by Al Qaida nutcases. All because you refuse to see that your tax money is causing a headache to USA and its interests because by funding terrorists (Israel) you are sowing not the seeds of love towards you in our region, but the seeds of hate. And you will reap that which you sow. In NY, and beyond NY (like in "Haifa, and beyond Haifa", as Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah would say ).

 

Has the average American read the report on the Israeli lobby by Walt & Mearsheimer ? No. Oh wait, they actually tried to censor it, and given the zionazis' tight control over media, it never really got a wide coverage anyway. But the internet is relatively free of the zionazi control, and so please do me a favor and read that report:

 

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpap...06_011_walt.pdf

Edited June 20, 2007 by Sassun