The Situation In Lebanon

[Sip]

If it had not been for Israel, the M.E today would have been a prosperous and peaceful place

 

I HIGHLY doubt that.

[Sassun]

I HIGHLY doubt that.

All that America has been doing is doing more and more damage control for past actions, and it is attempting to do so not by reversing its positons but perpetuating its pro-Israeli policies, which necessitates more and more damage control. It is a viscious circle.

 

And well, you could doubt that (but it is exactly this unbased "doubt" that has resulted in blind American support for the past and current U.S foreign policies). But that won't change the reality , and that is, Israel is the tumor and must be extirpated.

Edited June 20, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

Yes, Sip, these guys are keeping your beloved USA safe:

 

http://www-personal.umich.edu/~bgoodsel/post911/2002pix/boy-against-tank.jpg

 

http://alsaher.com/boycott/images/pointgun.jpg

 

The "chosen people" thank you for your tax money:

 

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/images/armed-settlers.gif

 

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/isr11.jpg

 

http://www.rcnv.org/gaza/photos%20for%20web/graffitti%20in%20Hebron-%20KILL%20ARABS%20(8-13-03).jpg

 

http://www.telrumeidaproject.org/sitebuilder/images/g1-448x332.jpg

 

http://www.imemc.org/attachments/may2007/israeli_armed_settlers_attacking_palestinian_civilians_homes_in_hebron__file_2007.jpg

 

These are the same Arabs they want to gas (yes, GAS CHAMBERS... if that ain't ironic), who took in survivors of the Armenian Genocide, treated them like their own, and gave them citizenship and equal rights.

 

Enjoy.

Edited June 20, 2007 by Sassun

[Sip]

And well, you could doubt that (but it is exactly this unbased "doubt" that has resulted in blind American support for the past and current U.S foreign policies). But that won't change the reality , and that is, Israel is the tumor and must be extirpated.

 

Even without Israel you flockers would find something to bitch about. If not Jews, the sunnies will be killing shiites and vice versa. After that, time to wipe out the kurds. After that, who knows what the hell Allah will want you guys to do. As I said before, I HIGHLY doubt there will be peace in the Middle East as long as "religion" is put at the forefront dictating how all people must live their lives.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sip

[Armenak]

I don't know, I think it was the creation of Israel that turned many Arabs (as well as Muslims) into the rabid bunch they are perceived to be today. I remember seeing Egyptian films from the '30s and '40s with actresses who dressed no differently than those in American and European films of the time.

 

Sip, are you dating Ann Coulter or something? Your last post would make a good thesis for an article by that malevolent neocunt.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Armenak

[Sip]

I guess my preception is a bit warped having grown up in the region with these "preceived rabid bunch" at each other's throats. Maybe Israel had something to do with it but all the years I was growing up in Iran, it was Shiites killing Sunnies and Sunnies killing Shiites by the millions.

 

I am sure some idiot will again pop up to point out how the US was Arming Iraq and how Russia was arming Iran etc etc etc but in the end, it was muslims pulling the trigger on each other. And why is Iraq a big f-ed up mess right now? I know they just love to blame the US, and I understand their attacks on US soldiers ... but at the same time, how come no one is focusing on the real massacres of muslim on muslim violence there? And how about the kurds ... Is it Israel and US that has been butchering the kurds too?

 

It is very easy for someone sitting in Lebanon trying to project what Lebanon might be like over the entire Middle East ... but the reality is, the Middle East, as a whole, is a very messed up place and it is not entirely because of the US or the jews. Did the jews have much to do with the Taliban hi-jack of Afghanistan? Did the jews and the Americans pull the trigger on destroying those awesome ancient statues of Buddah? Of course not.

 

I said it before and will say it again ... I HIGHLY doubt that even without Israel, the middle east would be at all a peaceful place.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sip

[Dave]

Actually, before the intervention of foreigners in Middle-Eastern affairs (that includes the Zionists), the various nations lived along quite well. When did Sunnis revolt against a Shiite-dominated empire? Never. When did Christians revolt against an Islamic empire? Never, until European values and ideas such as nationalism were propagated to the Middle-East.

 

Ok Sip, let's hear your solution for the Middle-East.

 

Yes, Sip, these guys are keeping your beloved USA safe:

 

I've seen a picture of a Jewish girl signing an Israeli rocket which was to be fired to southern Lebanon. On it there were the childrens' signatures, various colorful fluffy drawings and messages such as "from Israel with love". Hah, they think it was a good thing. It's despicable...

Edited June 21, 2007 by Dave

[Sip]

Ok Sip, let's hear your solution for the Middle-East.

 

As long as people are stupid enough to believe in God, Allah, and Yahweh, and as long as they are stupid enough to consider geographic places as "holy", there is NO solution. I am just very glad I am far away from that stupidity. You want my honest opinion of a solution? It is the United States Constitution. They need to turn the whole god damned place into a united states of Middle East where everyone is free to come and go as they please, warship whatever made up spaghetti monster in the space they want, and have free markets determine who gets ahead in life and who stays a miserable 13th century cave dweller for the rest of their lives. They need to invest more in educational infrastructures, schools, and colleges instead of mosques and jihad training camps. They all need to wake the fudge up and realize the real American way is THE ONLY way in a global world where race, ethnicity, and religion are as pointless as some rediculous and arbitrary lines people have been drawing for centuries to differentiate each other.

 

But since people will continue to be thick headed morons who think they are better than everyone else (doesn't matter who it is, including myself ), there is no solution in the Middle East.

 

 

[Shahan Araradian]

Actually I believe it went the other way around. But then again, as us Middle Easterners would say, Bush is a-bush.

 

And if you really believe Bush's cr*p than I have nothing more to say to you on this issue ! Israel has been a liability and not an asset. If it had not been for Israel, the M.E today would have been a prosperous and peaceful place, and USA would have enjoyed more than the oil it gets today by holding to gun to people's heads. But then you are more than willing to send your tax money to the "chosen people" and to fund your country's imperial wars on the basis that "they fight there so that our kids would not die in NY". There where? There in Iraq. Where there supposedly were WMD. Oh, OK. Very well, send your kids to be buried in mass graves in foreign lands and to have their heads chopped off by Al Qaida nutcases. All because you refuse to see that your tax money is causing a headache to USA and its interests because by funding terrorists (Israel) you are sowing not the seeds of love towards you in our region, but the seeds of hate. And you will reap that which you sow. In NY, and beyond NY (like in "Haifa, and beyond Haifa", as Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah would say ).

 

Has the average American read the report on the Israeli lobby by Walt & Mearsheimer ? No. Oh wait, they actually tried to censor it, and given the zionazis' tight control over media, it never really got a wide coverage anyway. But the internet is relatively free of the zionazi control, and so please do me a favor and read that report:

 

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpap...06_011_walt.pdf

Precisely. The war in Iraq, and more generally speaking, the U.S.'s unfair support of Israel is NOT in the best interest of the American people. Indeed, it is working AGAINST the interests of the American people since American terrorists (soldiers) are spreading the worsts type of bad karma that will grow the "terrorists" of tomorrow. And I think we are giving them very GOOD reason to become what has become known as "terrorists" -- simply humans who have been so ill-treated that the only option they see for liberation is to resort to violence.

 

(But then haven't American soldiers resorted to violence... Shouldn't they be viewed as "terrorists" by the Iraqis? Who is benefiting from all of this... Yeah, I forgot: it's Ehud, Moshe, and David sitting on the sidelines in Zionist headquarters in Tel Aviv, at the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee in D.C., at the State Department, and Zionists embedded in major media outlet who are pulling the strings.)

 

Tell me how can the world "tolerate" Zionism???

[Shahan Araradian]

I HIGHLY doubt that even without Israel, the middle east would be at all a peaceful place.

The entire Civil War in Lebanon was a result of the creation of the state of Israel: when Israel DEPORTED and did not let back millions of Palestinians into their own ancestral homeland.

 

That is the level of "tolerance" that the Zionists and Jews have; and yet they run the "Museum of Tolerance" and Zionist agents (like the one I had in the 10th grade at Hoover High in Glendale) preach "tolerance" inside American public schools.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Shahan Araradian]

As long as people are stupid enough to believe in God, Allah, and Yahweh, and as long as they are stupid enough to consider geographic places as "holy", there is NO solution. I am just very glad I am far away from that stupidity.

Just wait 10 years until the those 11 year olds who lost their parents/friends/siblings/relatives or who got maimed here or there have grown into young adults... Then the world will have become a much smaller place when those "terrorists" are returning the favor that the American tax payers subsidized: the American terrorism in Iraq, the illegal occupation of the West Bank by Israeli terrorist forces, and the indiscriminate Israeli terrorist attack on Lebanon in the summer of 2006.

 

You want my honest opinion of a solution? It is the United States Constitution. They need to turn the whole god damned place into a united states of Middle East where everyone is free to come and go as they please, warship whatever made up spaghetti monster in the space they want, and have free markets determine who gets ahead in life and who stays a miserable 13th century cave dweller for the rest of their lives. They need to invest more in educational infrastructures, schools, and colleges instead of mosques and jihad training camps. They all need to wake the fudge up and realize the real American way is THE ONLY way in a global world where race, ethnicity, and religion are as pointless as some rediculous and arbitrary lines people have been drawing for centuries to differentiate each other.

Sounds like it's YOU who's living in a totalitarian society and who hasn't seen any other way of life other than Iran and the U.S. Try taking a trip to Canada, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, or even Lebanon!

 

Arbitrary lines?? Do you know what culture means? Oh, I forgot: there's no such thing as culture in the U.S. Everyone watches the SAME T.V. shows! And everyone thinks like everyone else; the way one guy thinks is the same way that the next guy thinks.... Of course, this doesn't apply to the Zionists, who have their completely own way of thinking...

 

But since people will continue to be thick headed morons who think they are better than everyone else (doesn't matter who it is, including myself ), there is no solution in the Middle East.

The above shows that YOU are the "thick headed morons who thinks they are better than everyone else". Who are Americans to dictate how everyone in the world should live? What goes on in the Middle East is not in the interest of the American people -- neither Iraq, Iran, nor Syria -- nor any Arab country -- has threatened the U.S. U.S. corp's had already been drilling and pumping oil out of the ME before Israel even existed.

 

The U.S. support of Israel, the war in Iraq, and animosity toward Iran are NOT in the best interests of the American people. It ONLY serves Zionist interests and that of some U.S. corporations, especially in the congressional-military-industrial complex. And in the long term, this is DETRIMENTAL and DANGEROUS to the American people.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Sassun]

@Sip:

 

You are not making sense here.

 

You talk about the U.S Constitution as if it is the savior angel, when in fact it is the snake that a drowning person would hold on to so as to save himself. But we all know how effective that'd be. We all know that the U.S is not the peaceful and prosperous nation it markets itself as. It not only has the highest crime rates in the world (and yet you talk about Shiites killing Sunnis and vice versa? How about you talk about Americans killing Americans, right as we speak? What does the constitution have anything to do with that? And what is worse, they kill not for something they believe in, be it ideology or faith, but for MONEY, SEX, etc.). And then you have the U.S policy of exporting its murderers to foreign lands, to kill in the name of the security of the people back in NY, in much the same way that the UK exported its convicted murderers to "settle" North America and Australia. You have USA arming the mujahideen / the Taliban, then coming and saying, we must eliminate them. And you also have the Soviet-American Cold War playing itself out in Afghanistan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent Afghanis. I am sure those would be grateful to your constitution, it must have saved their souls. The idea of fighting America's wars of greed and slavery (to Israel) on foreign lands, seems to be like porn to Americans, so enjoyable, so exciting, that they even laugh while talking about it. They don't realize that it is this very policy that has legitimized in the eyes of many Arabs and Muslims, the Al-Qaida. As you know, Al Qaida is not a uniform organization. Even as its leadership is strictly anti-Sufi, some of its most notorious terrorists (like Muhammad Atta) were SUFIs. In other words, these people have found a legitimate means through which to channel their anger. The logic of Al Qaida was simple, and you mentioned it, only in reverse. You come and kill our own, we will kill yours in the very heart of your miserable existence. The hypocrisy of the West and its disregard for human life became all the more obvious with the outrage over the mass killing of innocents on 9/11, and the total lack of outrage on what has been going on in Palestine, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, etc. for decades, ALL of it thanks to American funding, arming, and Israeli black flag operations. Yes, I said black flag operations. Perhaps you have not heard of the Lavon Affair, or the bombing of Jewish targets in Iraq, and dozens of other black flag operations). You talk about Shiites killing Sunnis and Sunnis killing Shiites. Need I remind you who gave Saddam orders to invade Iran, who armed Saddam, who supported Saddam during the Iraq-Iran war? Yes, Shiites will kill Sunnis, if the Sunnis are USA's proxy soldiers. So what is your point? Shiites did not kill Sunnis because they were Sunnis (and btw, most of Saddam's army was made up of Shiites). What is going on in Iraq is probably the world's biggest black flag operation. The Shiites and Sunnis are tired of the fighting. They do not want to fight each other. And yet, all of a sudden, you see bombs going off at Shiite Mosques, bombs that no one knew or saw how it got there, attributed often to "suicide bombers". Where are these suicide bombers? Why did they not show us the burnt body of these suicide bombers? And if it was decimated, how did they know it was suicide bombers and not car bombs? Moreover, if they were car bombs, there is something eerily familiar about the sophistication and precision of these bombs. And what are Mossad doing in Iraq, training Kurds, is that their sole "job"? And who said they had the right to do so? That makes them participants in the invasion and occupation of Iraq, and potential culprits behind these bombings (allow me to remind you that the Mahdi Army is strictly anti-American and fights American forces and not Iraqis, and followers of Muqtada al Sadr have staged numerous rallies calling for unity between Shiites and Sunnis, against the apartheid wall that is being erected in Baghdad to disallow a rapprochement and unity that the bombs were intended to shatter). Also, who is building the apartheid wall in Baghdad, a la apartheid wall in Palestine? And by what right do they build walls and dictate where Iraqis should or should not go? They are an occupying force, and even if not, they cannot even enforce law and order and put an end to the mass killings.

 

You talk about the so-called "American dream", and yet this American dream and so-called non-racism is based on the ethnic cleansing/genocide of Native Americans and their condemnation to a few reservations, in the same way that the Israelis are trying to push the Palestinians into pockets of refugee camps, and Bantustans. And this American dream of yours is based on the export of its criminal elements to take out their murderous rage against innocent Iraqis and Afghans.

 

And lastly, what is it to you how we live in the M.E? That is none of your business. Your business instead is to demand that your government spend your tax money on recovery efforts for Hurricane Katrina (or is there no hint of racism in the lack of response to this, because the victims are mostly black, and whites who have lost their homes have received full compensation whereas blacks have received not one cent? Welcome to the "American dream" of non-racism and free markets!). Yes, your tax money must go to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina and to solve the problem of homeless people, etc., rather than to arm Israel to its teeth so that it would kill 3-month-old babies in their sleep or 15-year-old girls sitting in their room studying for an exam, or women hanging laundry on the roof of the building. Rather than to prop up the dictators of Egypt, Jordan and the puppet Nouri al Maliki, Hamid Karzai, and Pervez Musharraf. Rather than trying to use Lebanon to topple the regime in Syria, which neither has the interest, nor the ability to, harm USA, and has in fact shown its readiness to serve USA if it only gets off its goddamn back. Now, who would be to blame if USA does not get off Syria's back, because Israel does not want it to do so??? If U.S interests are hit by Syria as a result, who is to be blamed? Is it those backwards Arabs and "Jihadi" Muslims (Syria btw has a secular regime)? Or is it Israel and USA? Should you not blame yourself for being the puppet, or rather, slave, of Israel? I do not get it, you did not answer my question: how can you argue in favor of sending your tax money to the "chosen people"? Are you really happy that they are getting your money? What is in it for you? Do you mean they are ensuring your safety oceans away? From whom? The 3-month-old babies and 3-year-old kids? "Kill them before they grow up to be terrorists"? What a joke.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

Sip, you want a small sample of American ignorance of the Middle East, and how the American people are fed and grow up on these misinformations, which would then be used to justify America's Israeli wars?

 

USA Today, June 18, 2007

The tiny, crowded Gaza (now informally dubbed Hamastan) risks becoming a terrorist center and incubator -- one more blot of extremism in a region increasingly spattered with them, from Iraq to Iran to Lebanon. Although Hamas is Shiite and linked to Iran, the al- Qaeda terror group, which is Sunni, is making gains among the impoverished Gaza youth. Both share a hatred of Israel and, by extension, the United States.

 

(link)

 

Hamas is not Shiite. There are virtually no Shiites in all of Palestine. The paper, however, is not really aiming at explaining the reality of the Middle East, but rather, setting the stage for connecting the story to two of the threats that the U.S has "adopted" (I say adopted because by adhering to the Israeli line and fighting Israel's wars, it has willingly adopted all those enemies, though how people have concluded that Iran is USA's enemy or a threat to USA, is beyond my understanding).

 

Yes, if America becomes an extension of Israel, hatred of Israel would BY EXTENSION, mean hatred of USA. EXACTLY.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Shahan Araradian]

Sip, you want a small sample of American ignorance of the Middle East, and how the American people are fed and grow up on these misinformations, which would then be used to justify America's Israeli wars?

Hamas is not Shiite. There are virtually no Shiites in all of Palestine. The paper, however, is not really aiming at explaining the reality of the Middle East, but rather, setting the stage for connecting the story to two of the threats that the U.S has "adopted" (I say adopted because by adhering to the Israeli line and fighting Israel's wars, it has willingly adopted all those enemies, though how people have concluded that Iran is USA's enemy or a threat to USA, is beyond my understanding).

 

Yes, if America becomes an extension of Israel, hatred of Israel would BY EXTENSION, mean hatred of USA. EXACTLY.

I love how they (the Zionist who wrote this article) correlates hatred of Israel to hatred of the U.S. when no such correlation exists by default... It's saying to the American people: "Israel's enemies are the enemies of the U.S." But that is NOT necessarily the case!!!

 

The Arabs or Iranians have no reason to "hate" the U.S. if the U.S. does NOT provide Israel with that unfair billions of dollars in aid!! Why should Americans give up their tax dollars to Zionists who use it to kill Palestinians, who (justifiably) end up hating those American people who are FINANCING the destruction of the Palestinian people!

 

I say END to the American people's subsidizing of Israel and Zionist interests!

1) Use that $6 billion in aid to Israel to better American towns and cities: more parks, better schools, better health care

2) Bring the troops home from Iraq, let Iran live, give Palestinians the same amount of money that Israel has enjoyed over the last 50 years...

[Sassun]

Yeah, Shahan, the author attempts to correlate the two, when in fact the two are not correlated, except in so far as U.S policies/administration are concerned. The implication of the article is (and indeed the argument of Israeli propagandists more generally has been) that hatred of Israel "and by extension USA" is not related to policies , but rather, to hatred of "our values", of "liberty", "freedom", etc. This was the rhetoric of post-9/11! Read for example what a host of Israeli leaders said as little as 10 days after 9/11, about how Israel and USA were now part of the same fight, which made them targets because of their values!

 

Sip is yet to tell me how the Israeli jets circling above my head RIGHT NOW and making sonic booms over Beirut, are protecting him and the Americans.

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Shahan Araradian]

Yeah, Shahan, the author attempts to correlate the two, when in fact the two are not correlated, except in so far as U.S policies/administration are concerned. The implication of the article is (and indeed the argument of Israeli propagandists more generally has been) that hatred of Israel "and by extension USA" is not related to policies , but rather, to hatred of "our values", of "liberty", "freedom", etc. This was the rhetoric of post-9/11! Read for example what a host of Israeli leaders said as little as 10 days after 9/11, about how Israel and USA were now part of the same fight, which made them targets because of their values!

 

Sip is yet to tell me how the Israeli jets circling above my head RIGHT NOW and making sonic booms over Beirut, are protecting him and the Americans.

Yes. What the Zionists have succeeded in doing is to completely TRICK and LIE to the American people in making them believe the following: that all Muslims are EVIL and must be KILLED because they want to convert everyone to Islam and will kill anyone who refuses to convert --> Hence the option of "first strike" or "pre-emptive strike" is propagated: kill them before they kill us...

 

And all the while, all the Arabs and Iranians want to live in peace, and never have even threatened the U.S. (Why would they if the U.S. doesn't unfairly support Israel!)

Edited June 21, 2007 by Shahan Araradian

[Sassun]

Benjamin Netanyahu on Sept. 20,2001, at the U.S House of Govn't Committee. Subject: Preparing for the War on Terrorism

 

I think each one of us today understands that we are all targets, that our cities are vulnerable and that our values are hated with an unmatched fanaticism that seeks to destroy our societies and our way of life.

 

**

 

Thus, the soldiers of militant Islam do not hate the West because of Israel. They hate Israel because of the West, because they see it as an island -- an alien island of Western democratic values in a Muslim Arab sea, a sea of despotism of course.

 

**

 

To win this war, we have to fight on many fronts. Well, the most obvious one is direct military action against the terrorists themselves. Israel's policy of preemptively striking at those who seek to murder its people is, I believe, better understood today and requires no further elaboration.

 

**

 

But there is no substitute for the key action that we must take: imposing the most punishing diplomatic, economic and military sanctions on all terrorist states. To this must be added these measures: freeze financial assets in the West of terrorist regimes and organizations, revise legislation subject to periodic renewal to enable better surveillance against organization inciting violence, keep convicted terrorists behind bars. Do not negotiate with terrorists and train special forces to fight terror, and not least important, impose sanctions, heavy sanctions, on suppliers of nuclear technology to terrorist states.

 

(link)

 

 

And now, the butcher of Beirut, Ariel Sharon, on zionist mouthpiece CNN , on Sept. 21, 2001:

 

I think the attack in the United States is an attack against the values - democratic values - liberal way of life, freedom of speech. It's an attempt to impose on us democracies that way of life they would like to impose upon us.

 

**

 

The United States cannot live with terror. We cannot live with terror. We share the same values, and we should not let terror conduct our lives.

 

(link)

 

Sip, your tax money is paying the salary of these ****wits, who were advising USA, as early as 10 days after 9/11, to follow the policies and strategies they had drawn up. And if you have any doubt whose interests those Israeli-devised strategies were meant to serve, well then, if you have ANY doubt, I don't think I would have more to say to you, if you are so naive as to think Israelis and zionazis care one iota about those whom they condescendingly call "goyim"!

 

 

[Sassun]

Btw, Sip, how come Al Manar TV is banned in USA, since USA is so freedom-loving and democratic...? What is it afraid of, a channel showing Israeli brutalities? That Americans would at last have an unfiltered source of footage of where their tax dollars are going?

 

Speaking of Al Manar, there was a two-series short documentary aired on Tuesday and Wednesday, about the environmental disaster in Lebanon's beachfront caused by the Hariri company Solidere, which has turned the Normandy landfill into real estate, dumping toxic waste in the Mediterranean, effectively killing all marine life in that particular area of the Beirut Central District (which Solidere has STOLEN). While in power , Hariri changed laws in order to cover the illegal activities of Solidere. In other words, he and his Saudi masters, turned Lebanese government into a real estate management company.

 

Al Manar TV trained its reporters to dive in order to expose the LIES of Solidere and its masters Saudi Arabia. The report is in Arabic but if you are curious you may check out the video for footage of what it looks like under the water at the "Normandy" landfill area, compared to the clean St. Georges area:

 

(click to download the video)

 

And for USA's hand in this environmental crime, click here. All hail "free market".

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

I don't know, I think it was the creation of Israel that turned many Arabs (as well as Muslims) into the rabid bunch they are perceived to be today. I remember seeing Egyptian films from the '30s and '40s with actresses who dressed no differently than those in American and European films of the time.

 

Sip, are you dating Ann Coulter or something? Your last post would make a good thesis for an article by that malevolent neocunt.

:lol2: @ dating Ann Coulter. :D

 

Yeah Armenak, the Egyptian films and actresses were like that, even up to the late 60s (the era of Nasserist secular Arab nationalism which Israel and USA were working to destroy) and all the way to the early 80s! I grew up on Egyptian films ... lol Maybe that explains my aversion to the Egyptian dialect and especially their pronunciation of "j" as "g". "Sana helwa ya Gamil"...

 

The U.S and Israel are responsible for, and benefited from, the rise of radical political Islam in the Arab world (Iran is a different case altogether).

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

So why doesn't the UN take note of the "fake" air raids conducted by Israel a while ago just above my house in Beirut, and also in Mount Lebanon ? What are those jets doing over Mount Lebanon? I understand that in Beirut is the HezbAllah HQ, but what is in Mount Lebanon? Aside from Michel Aoun and some TV antennas? Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Sassun]

I've seen a picture of a Jewish girl signing an Israeli rocket which was to be fired to southern Lebanon. On it there were the childrens' signatures, various colorful fluffy drawings and messages such as "from Israel with love". Hah, they think it was a good thing. It's despicable...

Yup

http://pamolson.org/LebIsrGirls.jpg

 

And speaking of human shields.... These kids were actually on a military base, and if a rocket had slammed into that base as many HezbAllah rockets indeed did hit military bases, then these kids would have been legitimate targets.

 

And the targets are Lebanese civilians including hundreds of children:

 

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41414000/jpg/_41414639_fatherafp.jpg

 

Sip, your tax dollars at work:

 

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41415000/jpg/_41415139_funeralafp.jpg

 

"Enjoy".

 

Edited June 21, 2007 by Sassun

[Sip]

Yes. What the Zionists have succeeded in doing is to completely TRICK and LIE to the American people in making them believe the following: that all Muslims are EVIL and must be KILLED because they want to convert everyone to Islam and will kill anyone who refuses to convert --> Hence the option of "first strike" or "pre-emptive strike" is propagated: kill them before they kill us...

 

It is absolutely amazing how brainwashed you are.

[Sip]

The U.S and Israel are responsible for, and benefited from, the rise of radical political Islam in the Arab world (Iran is a different case altogether).

 

"radical Islam" ... as if "radical" is supposed to be any sort of excuse for Islam. And yes, yes, yes .. the US and Israel are also responsible for sick puppies and dying new borns everywhere. But as the saying goes, you can't fix stupid.

[annannimusss]

Sassun,this is a bit off topic, but do you know of the Lebanese-Armenian guy who plays for the National team in basketball, or did he stop playing. Anyway I am going to play agianst him this Friday, he is here in Fresno, California and he is playing with the Homenetmen team that I will hopefully a year from now be good enough to be on.

 

 

 

[Sassun]

Sassun,this is a bit off topic, but do you know of the Lebanese-Armenian guy who plays for the National team in basketball, or did he stop playing. Anyway I am going to play agianst him this Friday, he is here in Fresno, California and he is playing with the Homenetmen team that I will hopefully a year from now be good enough to be on.

Do you mean Yervant ?