Error 404 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Turkey shows it's real face again... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6568911.stm Turkish police carry one of the victims from the publishing house The three victims were found tied up in the office Three people have been killed at a publishing house in Turkey that produced bibles, in an apparent attack on the country's Christian minority. The victims were discovered at the Zirve publishing house in the eastern city of Malatya. They were bound hand and foot and their throats had been slit, officials said. Nationalists had protested at the publishing house in the past, accusing it of involvement in missionary activities, local media reported. There is a rising wave of nationalist feeling in Turkey, the BBC's Sarah Rainsford reports, with Christian minorities complaining of pressure and harassment. In the most serious incident so far, a Catholic priest was killed last year by a teenage nationalist gunman as he prayed in his church. 'Brutal crime' The general manager of the publishing house, Hamza Ozant, told local media that his employees had been threatened in recent days. A number of men had been detained in connection with the attack, local officials said. Television pictures showed police leading several young men from the building. One of those killed in the attack was German, the country's ambassador said. "Even if the exact circumstances of the crime are not yet known, I most strongly condemn this brutal crime," Eckart Cuntz said in a statement. Malatya is known here as a very nationalistic city, often with an extreme religious undertone, our correspondent adds. It is the hometown of Mehmet Ali Agca, who in 1981 shot Pope John Paul II. Turkey's Christian community comprises less than 1% of its population. More than 99% of the Turkish population is Muslim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Gee ... I wonder how this will effect the anti Genocide Denial laws Germany is trying to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 hmmmm inch asem or asvats ch@lini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 TURKISH NATIONALISTS PROTEST AGAINST CIRCULATION OF BIBLE * http://armtown.com/img/photo/pan_en_21928.jpg Three people were killed and two injured as result of attack on a publishing house in the northeast of Turkey, Reuters reports with a reference to Dogan local news agency. Those injured were taken to hospital. According to the preliminary data, the attack was committed by nationalists who protested against circulation of the Bible in Turkey. A protest action was also held the other day near Zirve publishing house in Malatia town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 (edited) Gee ... I wonder how this will effect the anti Genocide Denial laws Germany is trying to pass. You took the words right out of my mouth. Edited April 18, 2007 by Zartonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 You took the words right out of my mouth. Once again it may be time to revive this thread; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=7065&hl=hayer Call on all our "Christian soldiers" who will remain unnamed, armed with the Bible as their shield to go there and win the war for all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Call on all our "Christian soldiers" who will remain unnamed, armed with the Bible as their shield to go there and win the war for all of us. well said arpa...let us march into battle, always ready to turn the toher cheek! lets see how far that'l take us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Bashing Christian principles won't take us anywhere either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 it wasn't a Armenian bible was it ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Too bad, had it not been for the Korean clown, this story would have got much more press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted April 19, 2007 Report Share Posted April 19, 2007 Three people were killed and two injured as result of attack on a publishing house in the northeast of Turkey, Reuters reports... When did Malatya move to the northeast of Turkey! There is an operating church in Malatya - or rather a congregation who meet in a converted house safe behind tall walls - though I think it is Syrian Orthodox rather that Protestant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Error 404 Posted April 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Too bad, had it not been for the Korean clown, this story would have got much more press. LOL Accelerated I like the picture you are using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 They were Presbyterians. Ironically Malatya is also the hometown of the late Hrant Dink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Mannheimer Morgen: Hatred of Turkish nationalists is boundless 20.04.2007 17:52 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian /PanARMENIAN.Net/ “Obviously hatred of Turkish nationalists is boundless. The terrible assassinations in Malatia displayed that fanatics are capable of committing even such monstrous crimes. Radical nationalist publicly label Christians as enemies of the country, recently attacks became more frequent and sometimes with deadly ends,” German newspaper Mannheimer Morgen writes. The author of the article says, claims as if Christian missioners undermine political and religious bases of the Turkish State, are absurd. There are only about 100 000 Christians in Turkey, which has 70 million population. “The tiny minority that wishes to be left alone, at the same time keeps on struggling for the rights of religious community,” the newspaper underlines. Three evangelic pastors have been assassinated in Malatya – Turkey. The ecclesiastics were lacerated innumerable blows of knives, so much that they were unrecognizable. The genitals would have been torn off. Five principal suspects stopped by the Turkish Police have from 17 to 20 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Vatican: Murder of 3 priests in Turkey - act of madness of a fanatic minority 20.04.2007 18:32 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Vatican strongly condemned the murder of 3 evangelist pastors in Turkey. “These assassinations are acts of madness and the monstrous invention of a fanatic minority. Martyrdom is continuing in our times,” said Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who is the Vatican’s secretary of state. He stressed that the crime did not endanger the rapport reached during the papal visit last December in Turkey. Three evangelic pastors have been assassinated in Malatya – Turkey. The ecclesiastics were lacerated innumerable blows of knives, so much that they were unrecognizable. The genitals would have been torn off. Five principal suspects stopped by the Turkish Police have from 17 to 20 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MosJan Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Assassination of priests cast doubt on Turkey’s ability to become EU member-state 20.04.2007 18:03 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Irrespective of the fact if this monstrous crime has been committed by radical Islamists or ordinary criminals, people of Western countries now think Turkey has made one more step back form the united Europe, German Berliner Morgenpost reports in connection with the assassination of three Christian missioners in Malatia – Turkey. “The principle of religious freedom again appeared under doubt. The tiny Christian minority in Turkey is being put obstacles in its way everywhere, all possible kinds of barriers are created. At the same time the Turkish minority in Germany enjoys all privileges that the Organic Law provides. In fact authorities in Ankara do not undertake any actions to protect Christian institutions. The publishing house that publishes Bible and religious literature has been repeatedly threatened. These assassinations were a big blow to Turkey himself and cast doubt on his ability to become a member of the European Union,” the newspaper writes. Three evangelic pastors have been assassinated in Malatya – Turkey. The ecclesiastics were lacerated innumerable blows of knives, so much that they were unrecognizable. The genitals would have been torn off. Five principal suspects stopped by the Turkish Police have from 17 to 20 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Ah Malatya... What will become of you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 Ah Malatya... What will become of you... Someone should warn them that too many Malatya apricots gives one the runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 I think problem is not with apricots but with Kurtlar vadisi. Even scene is same. bind and torture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 20, 2007 Report Share Posted April 20, 2007 (edited) I think problem is not with apricots but with Kurtlar vadisi. Even scene is same. bind and torture. Zur-k*k*, or whatever the hell your name. I will not rpeat some of the things I said in another thread. Who the hell you think you are? Who the hell do your people think they are to have a license to kill simply because someone has a Bible? Do people in Christian countries kill people for owning a Qoran? Did you know that the Qoran was just transated and printed to Armenian in that Christian country known as Armenia? Why don't you and your Qoran toting idiot friends just go to that place where 72 spread eagle virgins are waiting for you? Edited April 20, 2007 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 The ecclesiastics were lacerated innumerable blows of knives, so much that they were unrecognizable. The genitals would have been torn off. Five principal suspects stopped by the Turkish Police have from 17 to 20 years old. As if a testimony from 1915... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 I think problem is not with apricots but with Kurtlar vadisi. Even scene is same. bind and torture. Actually you are right. If you instill people with that, day in and day out it will have consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Zur-k*k*, or whatever the hell your name. I will not rpeat some of the things I said in another thread. Who the hell you think you are? Who the hell do your people think they are to have a license to kill simply because someone has a Bible? Do people in Christian countries kill people for owning a Qoran? Did you know that the Qoran was just transated and printed to Armenian in that Christian country known as Armenia? Why don't you and your Qoran toting idiot friends just go to that place where 72 spread eagle virgins are waiting for you? There lies the difference Arpa. Actually this isn't the first incident with Christians in Malatya. They had decapitated an Armenian in Malatya 5-6 years ago if I remember correctly. What strikes me as strange is that Malatya was one of the few places where Armenians did survive the Genocide albeit in few numbers. They had Armenians there as recently as the nineties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 There lies the difference Arpa. Actually this isn't the first incident with Christians in Malatya. They had decapitated an Armenian in Malatya 5-6 years ago if I remember correctly. What strikes me as strange is that Malatya was one of the few places where Armenians did survive the Genocide albeit in few numbers. They had Armenians there as recently as the nineties. When part of a group of Armenians from America, I met some Armenians there in the late 90s. I recall that we had hoped to meet an old Armenian woman who had spelt here entire life there and was a genocide survivor - but she had died the previous year. She had lived her final years in very poverty-stricken conditions, almost her only possession was a Bible in Armenian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted April 21, 2007 Report Share Posted April 21, 2007 Zur-k*k*, or whatever the hell your name. I will not rpeat some of the things I said in another thread. Who the hell you think you are? Who the hell do your people think they are to have a license to kill simply because someone has a Bible? Do people in Christian countries kill people for owning a Qoran? Did you know that the Qoran was just transated and printed to Armenian in that Christian country known as Armenia? Why don't you and your Qoran toting idiot friends just go to that place where 72 spread eagle virgins are waiting for you? I don't know why you are directing your anger specifically at Zurderer. He has already said that he is no Islamist fanatic. He is refering in his post to that crude and blatantly nationalistic Turkish film that was relased last year, and he doesn't seem to be exactly praising it. BTW - don't be too praising of Armenia. In Armenia they would certainly not have been murdered, but they would have been harrassed, physically assaulted by never-identified thugs, probably imprisoned for short terms on trumped-up charges, and had their bibles confiscated and destroyed, at the instigation of the Armenian Church and nationalist fanatics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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