zurderer Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 should you realy ask this question? I think we will see creativity of armenians now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 .... now what animal would characterise an Azeri? A combination of all three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Unlucky Armenia - to be wedged so tightly between bears (Russians), wolves (Turks), sloths (Georgians) and .... now what animal would characterise an Azeri? Azerbaboons I thought everybody knew about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Unlucky.... and .... now what animal would characterise an Azeri? Hyena! Soon to join this; http://www.birds.mu/Extinct/Dodo.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Hyena! Reminds me more of a Zurderer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) Hmm are you commenting about Russia and ROA. It is easy my friend, If you dont want to be eaten by bear, you should have support of wolf. Anyway, It is your problem. Wolf will stay here. If anyone douths this thing is genuine and "sincerely" agrees and apologizes in regards to Armenian Genocide, I got news for him/her, but for this thing zrder I have to say Get the f*** out of this forum!! Or come face to face "wolf"! And nikolos, steve, You people don’t even qualify to be horse manure! Edited February 4, 2007 by Edward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Live happily ever after? Many countries dream of getting rid of US "support". First learn to live, then dream to get rid of the U.S. support. The U.S. military bases are still in easter part of Turkey(Western Armenia). Also, don't forget that you desperately seek the American support to become a member of E.U. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 "I dont think, Turkey realy have an alliance problem." but for some reason, you are left without a friend "After all which(Including ROA) country dont want Turkey allience? ;)" come down from the sevent heaven L L "Anyway, I dont know why but It looks like USA is hopelessly want Turkey cooperation. :D" you don't know why, but you know U.S. hopelessly wants Turkey's cooperation? IDIOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) Hmm are you commenting about Russia and ROA. It is easy my friend, If you dont want to be eaten by bear, Eaten by bear? Moron, Armenians are active in every aspect of the Russian life. Unlike the azeri-turks who sell poteto in russian markets, Armenians play a major role in the Russian social, economic, and the political life. "you should have support of wolf. Anyway, It is your problem. Wolf will stay here." a toothless wolf that still begs the Europeans and the U.S. for help? You had our support. Look what you did whit that. Independent Magazine OCTOBER 18, 1915 THE Armenians in Turkey before the present onslaught upon them numbered about two millions, but their importance in the empire is not to be measured by their numbers. Intellectually and physically they are vastly superior to the Turks. In education, enterprise, industry and love of home they surpass all the other races. Among all the peoples of Turkey they have been the quickest to catch the spirit of modern education and twentieth century progress. Within the last fifty years in the eastern part of Turkey wholly, and in a measure throughout the empire, they have been the artisans, the leaders in the learned professions and promoters of commercial enterprises. This ancient and proud-spirited race, conscious of its own innate superiority, ambitious to educate its children, Christian in its religion, and eager for an progress, cherished the hope of an independent Armenia reestablished upon the ruins of its ancient kingdom. "If you are not influenced by humane considerations," I replied "think of the material loss. These people are your business men. They control many of your industries. They are very large tax-payers. What would become of you commercially without them?" "We care nothing about the commercial loss" replied Talaat. The Murder of A Nation by U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Henry Morgenthau Edited February 4, 2007 by ArmoArmeN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) not much creative. I think armenians are more creative. Come on guys, you can find better names for azeris. By the way, what do you call armenians? eagle? If anyone douths this thing is genuine and "sincerely" agrees and apologizes in regards to Armenian Genocide, I got news for him/her, but for this thing zrder I have to say discover america again? I dont think you need this. After all, When did I apologise because of genocide? I only accept It is a fact. Why should I apologise for a bunch of racist people(Young turks) from a bunch of other racist people(you)? Edited February 4, 2007 by zurderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Why should I apologise for a bunch of racist people(Young turks) If you inherit the stolen wealth the young turks have left behind, you also inherit their unsolved issues. There is no back door exit. 'Unconditional Surrender' is your only option. "from a bunch of other racist people(you)?" WOW, this is a racist comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 arent you bored? I am not replying your crap and still you did not stop to write. If you dont write anything that deserve a reply, you will get no reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 First learn to live, then dream to get rid of the U.S. support. The U.S. military bases are still in easter part of Turkey(Western Armenia). Also, don't forget that you desperately seek the American support to become a member of E.U. ? There are no U.S. bases in Eastern Turkey. Infact all the U.S. bases were ordered shut in 1975. The only U.S. base is in Incirlik, which is a NATO air base leased by the Turks. There is a NATO base in Izmir too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 arent you bored? I am not replying your crap and still you did not stop to write. If you dont write anything that deserve a reply, you will get no reply. Why don't you use the same logic for yourself and stop your meaningless posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 You still reply me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 You still reply me. So did you moron BTW I was spitting in your face and you think it's raining, and think I'm answering you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Yeah, after all I am taking you serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There are no U.S. bases in Eastern Turkey. Infact all the U.S. bases were ordered shut in 1975. The only U.S. base is in Incirlik, which is a NATO air base leased by the Turks. There is a NATO base in Izmir too. There is a US base on top of a mountain just east of Erzurum. Has various listening devices, radar, early warning equipment, etc. Might technically be under NATO control, but it is manned by US soldiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) Yeah, after all I am taking you serious. Don't feed trolls or bears. Edited February 4, 2007 by neko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanVal Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Still there are more country who want to become ally with Turkey.(I repeat including ROA.) Many European countries fear Turkey. The EU is about porous borders, and, given the Turks' incredibly high birth rate and willingness to work for a lower wage, many Europeans fear they'll just "swamp" Europe. Ever since Poland joined the EU, the number of Poles in England has increased dramatically, and there's now some anti-immigrant sentiment there. The anti-Turkish sentiment will be ten times worse. Here's an article about Polish immigrants: A 30 hour journey on a coach does not sound like fun, but five times a week a coach load of Polish people make the journey from Warsaw to Southampton. They are heading for the South of England looking for work. No-one is exactly sure how many Poles are here, but the City Council estimate it could be as high as 20,000. In a city of 200,000 people that is one in 10. The Southampton Labour MP John Denham is concerned that the sheer numbers of people is causing problems. An example he gives is Southampton City College, where this term 1000 people registered to study English. Perhaps, he says, the employers that are profiting from cheap labour could help fund the cost of their studies. He is also worried that workers unintentionally undermine British employees by working for less money. He said: "You cannot stop competition but you can ensure that they pay their tax and national insurance. "Government agencies need to rigorously enforce this and target these dubious agencies that are dodging tax and also may be involved in other dubious dealings." Right to work Poland became a member of the European Union in 2004, and its citizens won the freedom to work in Britain. Two facts explain why so many are choosing to exercise that freedom. First the average annual income in Poland is £4,000 a year. Second Poland has the highest unemployment rate in Europe. But why come to Southampton? Multiple jobs Sixty-two-year-old Jan Kosniowski came to Southampton after the war and now runs an employment agency in the city. "The older community's attitude to the new ones is very mixed," said Mr Kosiowski. "For example, we arranged a Polish dance but very of the new young people turned up. Perhaps, if it had been a disco the attendance would have been different." "Many of the new ones come here and concentrate on earning money - working seven days a week. "Some have two jobs and are sending money back to their families in Poland. "Some work here for three or four months and then take time off over the summer or Christmas and go back to Poland for a few weeks and then return on the coaches." Rafal Kopala: Now has Business Visa Rafal Kopala first arrived eight years ago - illegally. He left after a few months and came back with a business visa. Rafal Kopal now works as a delivery driver for Michelin tyres. "The reason why? I am sure why all Polish people come to England. "They are looking for a better life, for work ... and money. First thing, I think, is the money." Medical facilities stretched Shirley is the heart of Southampton's Polish community. The Polish Deli stocks a taste of home for 100s of people. But so many new people are putting a strain on health facilities. Some GPs report a huge increase in their workload. And schools say there is a shortage of Polish speakers to help youngsters whose first language is not English. Church role The Polish Church Committee is now trying to improve relations with the new settlers. "We are now trying to organise English lessons for adults at the Polish Community Centre in the hope the newcomers will attend regularly." "The elders have been keeping Polish traditions going." But whilst some Poles are keen to make a new life in England, many others are just here to earn money before they return home. The Politics Show Join Peter Henley live from Southampton on the Politics Show on Sunday 25 June 2006 at 12:00 on BBC One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Yeah, after all I am taking you serious. Look hayvanoglu hayvan, so many of us tried to start an honest dialogue with you and asked you to stop the childish games and discuss the issues. But what you do is come up with "Our historians lie, your historians lie" or "I accept Genocide but Turkey shouldn't" and some other garbage. If this is your discussion giving statements without giving your reasons for those statements then you should go back to elementary school and learn all over again your ABC and learn how to dialogue with people. Dear Mods you have given this zurdeve enough time already. His only purpose here is to create headache and not to discuss any issue. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubépine Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 There is a US base on top of a mountain just east of Erzurum. Has various listening devices, radar, early warning equipment, etc. Might technically be under NATO control, but it is manned by US soldiers. There are listening stations in Malatya and Diyarbakır too, but they are officially under Turkish control. Probably the same goes for the one in Erzurum. My father worked for NACISA (NATO Communications and Information Systems Agency) back in the seventies and eighties in Brussels, so I'll better ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 He tries to pass himself off as indifferent, but he keeps coming back for more. Zurdie can't get enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Many European countries fear Turkey. The EU is about porous borders, and, given the Turks' incredibly high birth rate and willingness to work for a lower wage, many Europeans fear they'll just "swamp" Europe. Ever since Poland joined the EU, the number of Poles in England has increased dramatically, and there's now some anti-immigrant sentiment there. The anti-Turkish sentiment will be ten times worse. Here's an article about Polish immigrants: Unrelated(We can sacrify EU membership, If they give us enough benefit.) Show me one country at middle east which will refuse alliance of Turkey. USA, UK, Russia(These countries are effective at middle east.), Iran(want at least more cooperation), Pakistan(already ally), syria(want at least more cooperation), israel,(already ally), saudi arabia(want at least more cooperation)? Even northern iraqian kurds will not refuse alliance with Turkey. At Europea, we dont have allieance problems too. Yeah, there are some country who dont like Turkey enterance to EU, but there is not much counrty which is against Turkey itself. Infact western Europea has not our primary real politic lands..(Who care what france want, after all what can she do.) At balkains, we dont have alliance problems too. Kafkas? Hmm, azeris, georgians? Turkey have absolutely not any problem with finding ally. Thanks to our position. We are near to three important and difficult area. Middle east balkans and kafkas and we have our effect at all of these three place. Look hayvanoglu hayvan, so many of us tried to start an honest dialogue with you and asked you to stop the childish games and discuss the issues. You have no idea what is dialogue. If someone is not agree you, you attack him, not his ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratta-Kingdom Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 (edited) "arent you bored?" Is that what you count on? "I am not replying your crap and still you did not stop to write. If you dont write anything that deserve a reply, you will get no reply." Why don't you simply say don't torture me anymore? "zurderer Today, 12:18 PM Post #42 Yeah, after all I am taking you serious. " You don't talk to him serious. You don't talk to me serious. Why the hell are you in the armenian forum? Edited February 4, 2007 by ArmoArmeN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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