Assassination Of Hrant Dink

[Stormig]

Translation of the above:

 

To become my Chutak*’s companion was my lot. Today I am here, struck with great grief and yet honoured. I, my children, my family, and you – we are all in grief. This silent love gives us strength, however little, and a sorrowful joy.

 

The Bible says, “Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:13)

 

Dear friends, today we bid farewell to my other half, my beloved, the father of my children, and your brother. We observe a silent procession of respect without disturbing those to the right, the left, front, and back, without disrespect, without slogans, and without placards.

 

Through today’s silence we shall raise a great voice. Today is the beginning when inner depths rise to light. No matter how old he is, be he 17 or 27, no matter who he is, I know that once he was a baby. Nothing can be accomplished, brothers, without questioning the darkness that turns a baby into an assassin.

 

My brothers,

 

His love for truth, openness, and his friend is what brought him here. His love which defied fear deemed him great. It is said, “He was a great man.” I ask of you, “Was he born great?” No. He was born as we were. He wasn’t from the heavens. He, too, was of the earth. His was a corruptible (decomposable) body just like ours, but his lively spirit, his works, his approach, and the love in his eyes and heart deemed him great.

 

Man is not great by himself. It is his works that make him great. Yes, great he did become, because he thought and spoke as a great person. Today by coming here you have thought and have silently spoken as great people. You, too, are great. Do not make do with today, do not make do with this much.

 

He initiates a beginning in Turkey today. You have been his seal. With him, headlines, speeches, and restrictions have changed. For him, there were no taboos. As it is said in the Word, his heart overflowed. He paid a heavy price. The futures for which prices are paid are possible by loving and believing in the likes of Hrant, and not by hate, insult, and holding one blood above the other. This rise is possible by seeing the other as yourself.

 

Through Jesus he has departed from his house-paradise. He has opened wings to the heavenly and eternal paradise. He has opened his wings to the heavens before his eyes were tired, his body grew old, his health waned, and before he had his fill of his family. We will follow, my beloved.

 

We, too, will go to heaven. Love, and only love, enters heaven. Love, and only love, which is above the languages of the angels, above the prophets, above holding all secrets, above faith strong enough to move the mountains, above giving away all your possessions as charity, and above giving away your body for cremation, shall enter heaven. There we shall live forever with love. Love which envies none, kills none, and despises none, love which holds his brother above himself, gives up his rights, and looks out for his brother’s rights, the love found in Christ, and the love showered upon us.

 

Who can forget what you have done, what you have said, my beloved? Which darkness can obscure you, my beloved? Who can make us forget what has happened and is happening? Can fear do that, my beloved? Life, cruelty, or the ways of this world, my beloved? No, no obscuration can cloud you, my beloved.

 

Here I write you my love letter, my sweetheart. The price was heavy for me, too, my beloved. I owe the ability to write these to Jesus, my beloved. Let us give His right to Him, my beloved. Let us give everyone his own right, my beloved.

 

You left those you loved, your children, your grandchildren, those who see you away here,

and my bosom. However you haven’t left your country, my beloved!

 

* Chutak: violin.

 

[Stormig]

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[Stormig]

Mutafyan's speech in Turkish, same source:

 

Sevgili ve Yaslı cemaatim, Sevgili Dostlarımız,

 

Bugün Surp Asdvadzadzin (Meryem Ana) Patriklik Merkez Kilisesinin tarihi çatısı altında melun bir suikaste kurban giden cemaatimizin değerli bir evladını, Agos Gazetesi genel yayın yönetmeni müteveffa Hrant Dink’i ebediyete uğurlamak üzere toplanmış bulunuyoruz.

 

Merhumun Malatya’da başlayan yaşam çizgisi bugün son noktasına ulaşıyor. Zorluk ve mücadelelerle geçen yaşamı, Hrant Dink’te cesur, duygusal ve gözüpek bir karakter yarattı. Böylece o, adalet, vicdan özgürlüğü ve insan hakları savunucusu ve sancaktarı oldu. Bedeli ne olursa olsun inandığını, düşündüğünü söyler, bir şeyi yapması gerektiğini düşünüyorsa, yapardı.

 

Hrant, etnik kökenine olduğu kadar, vatanına da bağlıydı. Doğduğu yeri, büyüdüğü ülkeyi, yaşadığı ülkenin insanlarını kendi ait olduğu köklerin değerlerini reddetmeden sevebildi. Cesur çıkışları, onun din, ırk, köken farkı gözetmeyen insan sevgisiyle dolu, dürüst Anadolu insanı karakterinin dışavurumuydu. Hrant, bu duruşuyla Allah’ın emrini uygulamaktaydı: “Öç almayacaksın. Halkından birine kin beslemeyeceksin. Komşunu kendin gibi seveceksin.” (Levililer 19:18). Aynı zamanda Resulün emrini de yerine getiriyordu: “Allah’ı seven kardeşini de sevsin” (I. Yuhanna 4:21). Hrant, her iki aidiyetini de insanlar arasında sürmekte olan olumsuz önyargıları kaldırmak için kullandı. Demokrasinin ateşli bir savunucusu oldu ve onu ideal toplumun önşartı olarak kabul etti.

 

Merhumun eşine yaptığım taziye ziyareti esnasında Hrant’ın, Mesih İsa Efendimiz’i Kurtarıcısı ve Rabb’i olarak kabul ettiğini memnuniyetle öğrendim. Biz Hıristiyanlar için kurtuluş işte budur. “İsa'nın Rab olduğunu ağzınla açıkça söyler ve Allah’ın O'nu ölümden dirilttiğine yürekten iman edersen, kurtulacaksın.“ (Romalılar 10:9). Sevgili inananlar, “Allah dünyayı o kadar çok sevdi ki, biricik Oğlu'nu verdi. Öyle ki, O'na iman edenlerin hiçbiri mahvolmasın, hepsi sonsuz yaşama kavuşsun.” (Yuhanna 3:16). Ayrıca İsa Mesih Efendimiz şöyle diyordu: “İnsanlar yaşama, bol yaşama sahip olsunlar diye geldim.” (Yuhanna 10:10). Ancak maalesef bir çok insan bu “bol yaşama” kavuşamıyorlar, çünkü insanlık, günahlarının çokluğundan dolayı Allah’tan uzak kalıyor. Aziz Havari Pavlus şöyle yazıyor: “Çünkü herkes günah işledi ve Allah’ın yüceliğinden yoksun kaldı.” (Romalılar 3:23). Ayrıca “günahın ücreti ölüm“dür der (Romalılar 6:23). Sevgili Cemaatim, Allah bize sevgisini İsa Mesih Efendimiz aracılığıyla gösterdi. Çünkü biz daha günahlarımız içindeyken Rab İsa Mesih bizler için öldü. “Kutsal Yazılar uyarınca Mesih günahlarımıza karşılık öldü, gömüldü ve Kutsal Yazılar uyarınca üçüncü gün ölümden dirildi. Daha sonra Petrus’a, sonra Oniki Havariler’e göründü. Daha sonra da beş yüzden çok kardeşe aynı anda göründü.” (I. Korintoslular 15: 3-6). İsa Mesih Efendimiz bir keresinde Aziz Havari Tovmas’a şöyle demişti: “Yol, gerçek ve yaşam Ben'im. Benim aracılığım olmadan Göklerdeki Peder’e kimse gelemez.” (Yuhanna 14:6). Bu nedenle biz Hıristiyanlar İsa Mesih’i şahsen Rabbimiz ve Kurtarıcımız olarak kabul etmek gerektiğine inanıyoruz. Mesih’i kabul etmemiz gerekiyor, çünkü “kendisini kabul edip adına iman edenlerin hepsine Allah’ın çocukları olma hakkını verdi. Onlar ne kandan, ne beden ne de insan isteğinden doğdular; tersine, Allah’tan doğdular.” (Yuhanna 1:12-13). Mesih’i ancak imanla kabul edebiliriz. Efeslilere yazılan mektupta ise şöyle denilmektedir: “İman yoluyla, lütufla kurtuldunuz. Bu sizin başarınız değil, Allah’ın armağanıdır. Kimsenin övünmemesi için iyi işlerin ödülü değildir.” (Efesliler 2: 8-9). Rab İsa Mesih yüreklerimizin kapısında duruyor ve sesleniyor “İşte kapıda durmuş, kapıyı çalıyorum. Biri sesimi işitir ve kapıyı açarsa, onun yanına gireceğim; ben onunla, o da benimle, birlikte yemek yiyeceğiz.” (Esinlenme 3:20). İsa Mesih dağdaki vaazında “Ne mutlu doğruluğa acıkıp susayanlara! Çünkü onlar doyurulacaklar” dedi (Matta 5:6). Merhum Hrant’ın vefatı vesilesiyle gelen tüm taziyeler hep aynı fikir etrafında şekilleniyordu; o adalet aşkıyla çalıştı ve tüm yüreğiyle adaletin meyvelerini tatmayı diledi. Çünkü “Barış içinde eken barış yapıcıları doğruluk ürününü biçerler.” (Yakup 3:18).

 

Hrant’ı sadece gazeteci olarak tanıyanların büyük bir çoğunluğu kimsesiz çocuklar için yaptığı ve onun insansever kişiliğinin bir belirtisi olan çalışmalardan habersizdirler. Hrant, çocukluğunda bir çok çocuğun sahip olduğu mutluluktan mahrum kaldı. Teselliyi ise daha sonra çocuklara hizmet etmekte buldu. Çocukları sevdi. Kendi çocukları gibi onlara özen gösterdi. Çocukların sevincine ortak oldu ve çocukluğundaki acı anılara böylelikle teselli buldu.

 

Hrant, Türkiye Cumhuriyeti vatandaşı bir Ermeni’ydi ve tüm yaşamı boyunca böyle çalıştı. Bu vesileyle şu soruyu sormak istiyorum; bu gibi suikastlerden sonra maktulün kefeni üzerinden siyaset yapmak evrensel ahlak kurallarına ne kadar sığar? Acı hepimizindir. Kayıp hepimizindir. Taziye acıyı paylaşmak, acıyı hafifletmek demektir. Bu nedenle olayı kınarken ülkemiz aleyhine yapılan olumsuz açıklamalar yüreklerde yeni yaralar açmaktadır. Bu tür davranışlar merhum Hrant’ın yaklaşımına tamamen aykırı düşmektedir.

 

Bu vesileyle Cumhurbaşkanı Sayın Ahmet Necdet Sezer başkanlığındaki tüm devlet erkanına, tüm resmi kurum ve kuruluşlara ve iyi niyetli tüm yurttaşlarımıza bu acılı günlerde merhumun ailesine ve cemaatimize gösterdikleri destekten ve yakın ilgiden dolayı teşekkür ediyoruz. Olağanüstü duyarlılık sergilenmesi, ve en kısa zamanda failin yakalanması ise memnuniyet vericidir. Ancak kesinlikle yeterli değerlidir. Gerçek azmettiricilerin belirlenmesi ülkemizin barış ve huzur ortamı açısından zorunludur.

 

Bir Hristiyan din görevlisi ve bir insan olarak her zaman ve her şartta en kutsal hak olan yaşama hakkına saldıranları bir kez daha lanetliyorum. Fikir ve düşünce özgürlüğüne saygılı ve değer veren insanlar olarak, bazı insanlarımızın fikirlerini paylaşmasak bile, hiç kimsenin fikirlerinden dolayı bırakın katledilmesini, yargılanmasını ve ceza almasını bile kabul etmemeliyiz.

 

Devletimizin ve Türk halkının, Ermenilerin, binlerce yıldır bu topraklarda yaşayan T.C. vatandaşları olduğuna, yabancı ve potansiyel düşman olmadığımızı kabul edeceklerine, bizlerin düşman olarak algılanmamıza neden olan uygulama, tutum ve zihniyeti değiştirmek için okul kitaplarından ve okullarımızdan başlayarak toplumdaki bu Ermeni düşmanlığını yok etmeye yönelik çalışmaların ivedilikle ele alınacağına dair inancımızı hala koruyoruz.

 

Hrant’ın mücadele ettiği konuların başında Türk - Ermeni diyaloğunun gelişmesi vardı. Bu konuda önemli mücadeleler verdi ve bu mücadelesi karşısında oluşan tepkileri cesurca göğüsledi. Ne mistik bir olgudur ki, kendi cenaze merasimi, Türkiye ve Ermenistan yetkililerinin bir araya gelmesi için bir vesile oldu. Biliyoruz ki bu vesilenin gerçek bir diyaloğa dönüşmesi hepimiz gibi onu da mutlu ederdi.

 

Duamız şudur; Allah ülkemizin esenliğini korusun, vatandaşlarımızın kardeşlik sevgisini güçlendirsin, dünyaya barış bahşetsin ve insanların yüreğine sevgi tohumları eksin. Kötülük uzaklaşsın, ümitsizlik yok olsun ve Allah’ın kutsal iradesi her yerde hakim olsun.

 

Her şeye Kadir Allah’ın Kutsal Ruh’u içimizdeki taştan yürekleri çıkarsın, bize etten bir yürek versin. Böylece O’nun iradesini izlememiz, buyruklarına uyup onları uygulamamız mümkün olabilecektir (Hezekiel 36:26-27).

 

Merhum Geçen Pazar tüm dünyadaki Ermeni kiliselerinde Surp Badarak ayininden sonra yapılan özel dualarla anıldı. Bu vesileyle, Türkiye ve Ermenistan Cumhuriyetlerinin temsilcilerine, dost ülkelerin temsilcilerine, ayrıca, Başepiskopos Khajag Barsamyan tarafından temsil edilen Tüm Ermeniler Katolikosu 2. Karekin Hazretlerine, Başrahip Şahe Panosyan tarafından temsil edilen Kilikya Katolikosu 1. Aram Hazretlerine biraderane teşekkürlerimizi sunarız. Merhumun cenazesine katılmak için aramızda bulunan Romanya ve Bulgaristan Ermenileri Ruhani Önderi Başepiskopos Dirayr Mardikyan’a, Almanya Ermenileri Ruhani Önderi Başepiskopos Karekin Bekçiyan’a da teşekkürlerimizi sunuyoruz.

 

Merhametli ve bağışlayıcı Allahımız, Hrant’ın ruhunu kabul etsin. Yargı günü ona merhamet etsin, taksiratını affetsin ve semavi solmayan taçlarına layık etsin. Huzur içinde yatsın. Bir kez daha merhumun eşi sevgili Rakel’e, evlatlarına, cemaatin tüm üyelerine, tüm basın mensuplarına ve tüm yurttaşlarımıza taziyelerimi sunar Kutsal Ruh’un tesellisini dilerim. Amin.

[Stormig]

Translation of above:

 

Dear mournful congregation and dear friends,

 

Today under the historical roof of the Sourp Asdvadzadzin Church of the Patriarchate we gather to bid a beloved son of our community, editor-in-chief of Agos, the late Hrant Dink, victim of a damned assassination, farewell.

 

Today ends the life the deceased came to in Malatya. Through the difficulties and trials he lived through, Hrant Dink became a character of courage, tender heart, and boldness. Thus, he became a fighter and standard-bearer for justice, conscience, and human rights. No matter what the costs, he spoke up for what he believed in and thought, and he did what he thought had to be done.

 

Hrant was as tied to his country as he was to his ethnic background. He was able to love his place of birth, his country, and the people of the country without rejecting the values of his roots. His bold moves were a reflection of his Anatolian character of honesty and love that discriminated against neither religious background, race, nor ethnicity. Hrant thus followed God’s commandment: “Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself” (Leviticus 19:18). At the same time he also followed the Lord’s commandment: “Whoever loves God must also love his brother” (1 John 4:21). Hrant took advantage of both relations to do away with the prejudices instilled in people. He was an ardent defender of democracy and saw it as a precondition for an ideal society.

 

During the visit I paid his spouse to offer my condolences I was pleased to learn that Hrant had accepted the Christ Jesus as Saviour and Lord. For us Christians, this is the road to salvation. “That if you confess with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved” (Romans 10:9). Dear believers, “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Moreover Jesus Christ also said, “The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full” (John 10:10). However few people get to live this full life, because mankind distances itself from God because of their many sins. St. Paul the Apostle says, “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). He also says, “The wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23). Dear congregation, God has shown his love for us through Jesus Christ, because the Lord Jesus Christ died for us when we were yet engulfed in our sins. “For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time” (1 Corinthians 15:3-6). Our Lord Jesus Christ once said to the St. Thomas the Apostle, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). For this reason we Christians believe that we have to accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Saviour. We must accept Christ, because “Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God” (John 1:12-13). We can accept Christ only through faith. In the epistle to the Ephesians, it is said, “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9). The Lord Jesus Christ stands at the door to our hearts and calls, “Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me” (Revelation 3:20). At the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus Christ said, “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled” (Matthew 5:6). All condolences received on occasion of his death revolved around the same idea: that he worked for love of justice and hoped with all his heart to taste the fruits of justice, for “Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness” (James 3:18).

 

Most people who have known Hrant only as a journalist are not aware of what he did for orphans and those works of his which were a token of his philanthropic character. Hrant as a child was deprived of the happiness that most children have. He sought solace later in serving children. He loved them. He cared for them as he did for his own children. He shared their joys and thus the pains of his childhood were comforted.

 

Hrant was an Armenian of Turkish citizenship and throughout his life worked as such. As such I wish to address you this question: how acceptable is it from the point of view of universal ethics to engage in politics over the coffin of the slain after such murders? The pain belongs to us all. So does the loss. Condolence means sharing the pain, taking it away. Thus, when condemning the assassination, certain uncalled-for proclamations against our country only open new wounds. These types of behaviour run contrary to the late Hrant’s approach.

 

We avail ourselves of this opportunity to thank President Ahmet Necdet Sezer and all high officials, all offices, and our well-intented compatriots for the support and concerns they have shown the deceased’s family and community on this mournful day. The sensitivity displayed and the fact that the perpetrator has been caught so soon are pleasing. However they are by no means enough. It is of paramount importance that the real agitators be identified to maintain peace in our country.

 

As a Christian cleric and a human I once again curse those who assault the holiest of rights, that is, the right to life. As people who respect and cherish freedom of expression, we cannot accept the judgement and punishment, much less the slaughter, of anyone for their ideas.

 

We maintain our belief that that our state and the Turkish people must accept Armenians as Turkish citizens whose roots on this land go back thousands of years and that we are not foreigners or potential enemies and that we must begin from school books and schools to change the implementations, approaches, and mentality that causes us to be perceived as enemies to eradicate with speed the enmity toward Armenians.

 

Among the issues Hrant struggled for, the development of a Turkish-Armenian dialogue took the lead. He struggled hard for this and bore the reactions against his struggle with courage. How mystical it is, indeed, that his funeral ceremony has become a means through which to bring together officials of Turkey and Armenia. We know that were this to bring forth a real dialogue, we all would be much happier.

 

Thus we pray: may God preserve the well-being of our country, strengthen the feelings of brotherhood between our citizens, bestow peace upon earth, and spread the seeds of love among human beings. May evil recede, hopelessness disappear, and God’s holy will prevail.

 

May the Holy Spirit of God Almighty remove the hearts of stone among those of us and give us a heart of flesh. Thus we will move to follow his decrees and be careful to keep his laws (Ezekiel 36:26-27).

 

The deceased was remembered in Armenian churches the world over following Sourp Badarak last Sunday. This occasion became an opportunity for us to thank the representatives of the Republics of Turkey and of Armenia and the representatives of the forthcoming countries, as well as Archbishop of the Armenian Church of America Khajag Barsamian as representative of His Holiness Catholicos of All Armenians, Karekin II, and Father Shahe Panossian as representative of the Catholicos of Cilicia, His Holiness Aram I. We also extend our gratitude to Archbishop Dirayr Mardikian, Primate of the Armenian Dioceses of Romania and Bulgaria, and Archbishop Karekin Bekchian Karekin Bekdjian, Primate of the Armenian Diocese of Germany.

 

May the merciful and forgiving God accept Hrant’s soul. May the Day of Judgement show mercy on him, forgive his sins, and deem him worthy of a heavenly crown. May he rest in peace. Once again I offer my condolences to his beloved wife Rakel, his children, all members of the community, all members of the press, and all citizens and wish for the consolation of the Holy Spirit. Amen.

 

[MosJan]

I'd like to make a few adjustments but can't find the edit button???

 

Hey, I can get an edit button for this post but not the above. Is there a time-limitation or something?

 

 

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[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

 

 

EU membership inconceivable while Turkey refuses to face up to mass murders of Armenians

 

 

 

26.01.2007

 

 

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The impasse in Turkey's EU accession talks has whipped up xenophobia. Brussels says that despite major reforms to entrench human, democratic and minority rights, Ankara has not done enough to protect freedom of expression or subordinate the army to civilian control, reports The Financial Times. Turkey's neo-Islamist government says the Europeans are acting in bad faith, raising the bar to entry ever higher to pander to anti-Muslim prejudice, particularly in France, Germany and Austria. Both are right. But there are, nevertheless, rightly unalterable membership criteria. No country with a penal code that makes it a crime to "denigrate Turkishness" (Article 301) will meet them. European membership is also inconceivable while Turkey refuses to face up to the mass murders of Armenians as the Ottoman Empire crumbled during the First World War.

 

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Prime Minister, has called for reputable historians to establish the truth, confident this would place the killings within a conflict in which millions of Turks also perished as western powers dismembered Ottoman territory. Yet for generations there has been nothing but silence or denial. Rare conferences to discuss these terrible events have been cancelled after pressure from the army-dominated nationalist establishment. Turkey closed its borders with Armenia in 1993.

 

Critically, nationalist cabals have used Article 301 to silence writers and intellectuals who have dared to raise the Armenian tragedy and ask whether it was centrally directed genocide. Mr Dink himself was given a suspended jail sentence and Orhan Pamuk, the Nobel prize-winning novelist was also dragged to court (where yesterday he was publicly threatened by a well-known extremist who prosecutors say provided the gun that killed Mr Dink). Mr Erdogan has reacted forcibly to Hrant Dink’s murder and made gestures of reconciliation towards the Armenians. It is unrealistic to expect more ahead of fiercely contested elections this year. But Turkey must demonstrate its commitment to free speech by repealing Article 301, not only a mechanism for exacerbating ultranationalism but evidently an incitement to murder too. Once the elections are over, Turks and Armenians need to move towards a public reckoning with history, the newspaper says.

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Ogün Samast has regretted the murder?????????????????

 

 

 

25.01.2007

 

 

 

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ ‘Agos’ bilingual Armenian-Turkish weekly editor Hrant Dink’s suspected murderer Ogün Samast signed a confession saying that he regretted the murder, and that his intention had been to give himself up to the police in Trabzon after meeting with his family. This amounts to a change in his confession because during his preliminary investigation he had said he did not regret killing Dink. “While I was watching TV at my uncle's house, just after the murder, I understood that I committed a big crime because people were saying ‘Turkey will be in a very difficult situation.” 17-year-old Samast said. Meanwhile, Dink’s lawyer Erdal Doğan mentioned that they would demand a bone analysis test to determine Samast's real age. If Samast's actual age turns out to be above 18, he stands to be tried with a life sentence. Hakan Hakeri, Associate Professor of Criminal Law at Selçuk University in Konya, said Samast would receive a sentence of 18 to 24 years in prison, since he is not legally an adult. But in this case, it would increase the sentence of the so-called “older brothers” behind the murder.

 

 

 

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didn't the turkish government claim he was arrested in a bus?

 

[zurderer]

It took only two days after Hrant was laid to rest, God bless his soul for some Turks to show their true genocidal nature by calling for a new genocide.

They are doing this openly for the whole world to see and yet the world is behaiving like the three monkies, Seen nothing, Heard nothing and said nothing. The world wants us to reconcile with the Turks and find a way out of this, but how can you reconcile with a Turk who wants to commit the same genocidal crime today.

The Turkish state did not expect that Hrant would garnish this kind of support for his vision within Turkey and they are scared that this could have a snowball effect, therefore quickley they are trying to muzzle up the uprising with threats. Some journalists were right to say that nothing will change in Turkey and I think they are correct.

 

They even put a fake bomb near to Turkish parliments and you accuse goverment?

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

Turkey Reminded of Genocide Issue

 

 

 

Assyrian International News Agency

01/26/2007

 

 

HRANT Dink paid the ultimate price for speaking the truth. Last Friday, the newspaper editor was shot to death outside his office in Istanbul, Turkey.

 

The 17-year-old Turk who is under arrest for the murder told police, in his initial interrogation, that he had read some of Dink's writings on the Internet, and that he was angered by them: "These things bothered me. I decided to kill him. ... I would do it again today. I am not sorry."

 

Dink's crime: The Armenian journalist wrote about the genocide waged against Armenians by the Turkish government 80 years ago. Around 1.5 million men, women and children perished in that carnage, some from malnutrition, others from the brutal conditions of forced marches. Many were simply shot or hanged.

 

And the present-day Turkish government continues to deny that it happened.

 

The U.S. government for decades has abetted that lie by refusing to recognize that genocide took place. Both are wrong, and both should change their policies accordingly.

 

Dink was no stranger to repression. He was convicted in 2005 of insulting Turkishness - a crime in Turkey - for speaking publicly about the genocide. Family and friends said he had been receiving threats ever since his trial.

 

Turkish intransigence over the matter of calling the genocide what it was continues to puzzle. The current government is not the one that organized and implemented the killings. To be sure, the episode is a serious blight on Turkey's past. But consider the example of Germany, where far greater crimes - in sheer number of victims - were committed against Jews and others during the Holocaust.

 

The Germans have worked assiduously, as individuals and through their government, to make amends for those crimes. They acknowledged them, and have paid huge sums of money to the survivors. In addition, they have memorialized the Holocaust, helping to ensure that its lessons are not forgotten.

 

Turkey wishes to join the European Union, but faces enormous opposition from powerful members of that group, especially France, over its refusal to come to terms with its own history. Yet the denial persists.

 

But perhaps not forever. Though still small in number, some Turks are calling openly for acknowledgment and the beginning of redemption.

 

And when police took Ogun Samast, the suspected killer, to the scene of the murder, a small crowd of onlookers shouted at the suspect, "We're all Hrants. We're all Armenians!" according to the Anatolia news agency.

 

Let's hope that attitude spreads.

 

The Fresno Bee

 

[Yervant1]

They even put a fake bomb near to Turkish parliments and you accuse goverment?

I'm not accusing the Turkish Government but the Turkish State. The real one not the show and tell puppets.

I'm sure you know who is in charge of Turkey.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

http://www.regnum.ru/english/polit/772965.html

 

 

 

 

European Court of Human Rights entertains Hrant Dink’s claim

 

 

 

Regnum News Agency

January 26, 2007

 

 

The European Court of Human Rights entertained a claim of Armenian-language Agos newspaper (Istanbul) editor Hrant Dink, who was killed in Istanbul on January 19. Dink presented the claim after he was sentenced to half-a-year imprisonment for “offending the Turkish identity.” Turkish news agencies informed on it, saying that because of Dink’s death, the court turned to his family that is decide whether to support the claim.

 

The European Court of Human Rights said that Hrant Dink’s claim point out to violation of four articles of the European Convention on Human Rights.

 

Hrant Dink was repeatedly besieged by Turkish courts for “offending Turkish identity” and was subjected to repressions by Turkish authorities. In particular, Dink wrote in Akos newspaper that “Turkish hostility poisons blood of Armenians,” for which he was tried in July 2005 “for insulting national dignity of the Turks.”

 

The verdict was pronounced by court of original jurisdiction interpreting Dink’s words as “the Turks have dirty blood.” However, Turkish Court of Appeal decided that charges against Dink were brought because of misinterpretation and exculpated them. Nevertheless, on July 11, 2006, Turkish Criminal Court of Appeal supported the sentence against Dink. Later, at an interrogation, Dink’s killer accused the journalist of stating that “the Turks have dirty blood.”

 

It is worth mentioning, Dink repeatedly received threats. In one of his last interviews, Dink said that it was nonsense to misinterpret his words like that.

 

Earlier, international institutions announced more than once that Turkey should change Article 301 of its Criminal Code, under which Turkish courts of various instances convicted many culture and public figures, journalists, writers, particularly, for mentioning the Armenian Genocide. In its turn, the European Union urged Ankara to exclude the article from the criminal code, saying it violates basic human rights and freedoms. Changing the article was one of preconditions for Turkey’s accession into the EU.

Edited January 26, 2007 by ArmoArmeN

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

 

 

 

Crocodile Tears

 

 

The Huffington Post

January 26, 2007

 

 

 

 

 

The cold-blooded murder in Istanbul of Hrant Dink, the editor of the bilingual Armenian/Turkish Agos newspaper, has been condemned by leading officials and prominent individuals throughout the world.

 

Turkish leaders who reviled and mistreated him and took him to court repeatedly on trumped up charges of "Insulting Turkishness" are now expressing their "sincerest" condolences to his family.

 

 

These are crocodile tears. Alarmed by the massive outpouring of sympathy for the 52-year-old murdered Armenian editor, these Turkish officials are simply engaged in damage control. Seeing that Turkey stands to lose a great deal from a political assassination that was carried out in broad daylight, with Dink's body lying on the cold pavement for hours shown on worldwide TV screens, and realizing the devastating effect this would have on their country's tarnished reputation, they have decided to unleash a charm offensive, becoming overnight great admirers of Hrant Dink and staunch defenders of freedom of expression and minority rights! Who are they fooling?

 

These are the same leaders who painted a bull's eye on Dink's back by labeling him an enemy of the Turkish nation because of his writings on the Armenian Genocide, and then refused to provide him with any protection after he informed them that his life was in danger due to the steady stream of ominous death threats he was receiving.

 

In his last column, published on January 10, Dink foretold the immediate danger to his life: "The threats reaching hundreds kept coming for months through phone calls, e-mails and letters.... The deep force was trying to single me out and make me an open target in the eyes of the people of Turkey.... That great force which had decided once and for all to put me in my place and had made itself felt at every stage of my lawsuit, through processes I would not even know about, was present once again behind the scenes. ... The diary and memory of my computer are filled with angry, threatening lines sent by citizens from this particular sector. Let me note here at this juncture that even though one of these letters was sent from [the neighboring city of] Bursa and that I had found it rather disturbing because of the proximity of the danger it represented and [therefore] turned the threatening letter over to the Shishli prosecutor's office, I have not been able to get a result until this day."

 

While a 17-year old fanatical young man, hired by "dark forces," is said to have pulled the trigger, many others have a share of responsibility in Dink's murder. It is noteworthy that the Turkish police, after apprehending the assassin and a group of collaborators, discovered that he was armed and directed to carry out this murder by another extremist who was trained in the use of weapons by Chechens in Azerbaijan. It is becoming increasingly clear, and Dink said so himself in his January 10 column, that he was being targeted by "a deep force."

 

Given the sinister nature of the clandestine ruling circles of Turkey, known as the "Deep State," an international panel of investigators must be constituted in order to uncover the far-reaching tentacles of these conspirators. It is obvious that Turkish leaders are not going to investigate themselves. They are also not too eager to expose the connections to Azerbaijan.

 

For decades, successive Turkish governments have denied the facts of the Armenian Genocide and vilified those who have dared to speak about it. While the long arm of the Turkish regime has reached everywhere in the world to counter all mention of the Armenian Genocide, it has been even more effective in silencing its domestic opponents. Turkey passed laws that made it illegal to refer to the Armenian Genocide and adamantly refused to change its repressive laws, even when European Union officials were pressing them or pleading with them to do so. Turkey's "Deep State" created an atmosphere of fear and intimidation, so no one would dare to utter a word on this subject. This atmosphere of intolerance gave a free rein to extremists and agents of the "Deep State" to eliminate "all enemies of the nation." Therefore, Turkish officials are directly responsible for Dink's murder.

 

In a vain effort to appear accommodating, the Foreign Ministry of Turkey issued a blanket invitation to leaders of Armenia and the Diaspora to come to Istanbul for the funeral of Dink. The announcement said that the Turkish government would pay all travel and hotel expenses for Armenians accepting this invitation, making it clear that only "moderate" Armenians would be welcome.

 

There has been, however, one major and an unexpectedly positive development since Dink's tragic death. Tens of thousands of Turks and others have been marching in the major cities of Turkey, shouting: "We are all Hrant Dink; We are all Armenians!" This is an unprecedented act. It indicates that there is such intense indignation, among at least a segment of the Turkish population, at the repressive environment dominating the country for so long that they no longer fear showing their resentment. If this circle of decent and humane Turks would expand in the near future, it would bode well for Turkish-Armenian relations and lead to popular pressure to stop the lies on the Armenian Genocide.

 

If the Turkish government wants to take concrete and meaningful actions to indicate its goodwill following the tragic death of Hrant Dink, it should immediately repeal Article 301 which effectively bans any reference to the Armenian Genocide, open the border with Armenia, and stop the denials and the funding of denialist propaganda on the Armenian Genocide.

The U.S. government should also do its part by having the Congress pass a resolution on the Armenian Genocide, followed by a presidential statement issued on April 24 reaffirming the genocide. Similarly, the French Senate should adopt the pending law which intends to penalize the denial of the Armenian Genocide in France.

 

Substantive, not cosmetic changes must take place in Turkey in order to stop such senseless killings. The European Union should finally speak with a forceful voice rather than trying to appease the Turkish leadership which has been heretofore very reluctant to carry out any substantial reforms. Otherwise, Dink would have sacrificed his life in vain. He was a voice for reason and peace in Turkey. He called himself a vulnerable "pigeon." He put his life on the line and it was mercilessly cut short.

 

Will such killings ever stop in Turkey? Will the Armenian Genocide, 92 years later, continue to claim more innocent victims? It is time to stop paying lip service to reforms and start taking decisive action to end the repressive atmosphere in Turkey. The Turkish people, marching by the thousands in recent days, may have triggered such a salutary movement. Will they be able to overthrow their oppressive yoke and force their leaders to become more humane? Only time will tell!

 

[zurderer]

I'm not accusing the Turkish Government but the Turkish State. The real one not the show and tell puppets.

I'm sure you know who is in charge of Turkey.

 

No, not this time. Even generals blaimed killing. I am ready to accept Turkish deep state guilt but this time It is not sensible.

 

After all, what did Turkey gain from this killing?

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

After Deadly '06, Journalists Need Protection

 

 

The Daily Campus

January 26, 2007

 

 

The recent assassination of Turkish-Armenian journalist Hrant Dink is another tragic case of violence against the media and the silencing of journalists who produce controversial work unpopular with certain groups or governments. Dink's murder is a somber reminder that the liberal degree of free speech often taken for granted in America is not universal. It further highlights the dangers journalists face around the world, from reporting in hazardous environments to extreme punitive measures for attempting to uncover the truth.

 

2006 was the deadliest year for journalists and media workers. The International Federation of Journalists (IFJ) reported "at least 155 murders, assassinations and unexplained deaths." Some were accidental at the hands of U.S. soldiers, others were politically motivated hits and still others were committed by gangsters or warring factions, according to the IFJ report.

 

The majority of news media deaths have taken place in Iraq, which has become the deadliest war for journalists and the most dangerous place to work over the course of American involvement in the region. But even outside of classifiable conflict zones, there still lies danger for those seeking to report, convey, uncover or express an idea.

 

The Turkish-Armenian editor was often the target of prosecution and threats due to his "iconoclastic journalism, particularly on the mass killings of Armenians in the early 20th century," according to the Committee to Protect Journalists' (CPJ) Web site. The Turkish government does not acknowledge these World War I killings as genocide, which continues to cause great tension between Turks and Armenians. Dink's friend Andrew Finkel said Dink "was in favor of Turkish and Armenian neighbors being able to look each other in their face and recognize their past histories," according to CNN.

 

Dink's murder is reminiscent of numerous other journalists' deaths, including the high profile murder of Russian journalist, Anna Politkovskaya, in October 2006. Many strongly believe she was murdered because of her outspoken criticism of the Kremlin and its policies toward Chechnya. Tuesday, the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) reported Russian officials announced Chechen police might have been behind Politkovskaya's murder because she was going to publish an article about the polices' alleged involvement in torture. A caveat at the end of the story reminded this is only one of several theories behind the murder.

[Yervant1]

No, not this time. Even generals blaimed killing. I am ready to accept Turkish deep state guilt but this time It is not sensible.

 

After all, what did Turkey gain from this killing?

I say crocodile tears to your killer generals.

They could not predict the outcome this time and it backfired badly, hence plan B came into effect which is show sympathy. They thought there will be little fanfare and silence Hrant. Did they ever miscalculate the outcome.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

 

AFTER HRANT DINK'S MURDER, TURKISH MASS MEDIA AGAIN STRIKES ONE'S

EYE WITH FALSE INFORMATION

 

YEREVAN, JANUARY 26, NOYAN TAPAN. After "Akos" newspaper editor

Hrant Dink's murder, too sensitive articles appeared in both Armenian

and Turkish press, and it is natural. Yervand Azatian, an American

Armenian writer, publicist, a member of the Ramkavar-Azatakan (Liberal

Democratic) party, "Azg" (nation) newspaper founder, at present

- shareholder expressed such an opinion at the January 26 press

conference. But, in his words, Turkish mass media use during these

years the PR technologies more frequently what is mainly expressed by

spreading not correct information. In Y.Azatian's opinion, a bright

example of false information is the information published by the

Turkish mass media as if Armenian extremist organizations are behind

H.Dink's murder.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe

 

 

IN RESOLUTION ADOPTED ON JANUARY 25 PACE SERIOUSLY CONDEMNS HRANT

DINK'S MURDER

 

STRASBOURG, JANUARY 26, NOYAN TAPAN. The Parliamentary Assembly of

the Council of Europe adopted on January 25 a resolution "On Danger

Threatening Journalist's Life and Expression of Speech," by which,

particularly, murders of journalists Hrant Dink and Anna Politkovskaya

are seriously condemned. It is also mentioned in the resolution that

during the last one year rather serious violences were implemented

towards journalists especially in Eastern European countries, the

leaders among which are RF and Azerbaijan.

 

According to Radio Liberty, H.Dink's judicial Odessey is briefly

presented in the part of the resolution concerning "Akos" newspaper

editor's murder.

 

Besides, it is mentioned that he addressed with a claim to the European

Court of Human Rights few weeks before his death. It is also fixed

in the document that the journalist wrote in one of his last articles

that he got many threats.

 

During the discussion on the draft resolution, according to the radio

station, Armen Rustamian, a member of the PACE Armenian delegation,

the Chairman of the National Assembly Standing Committee on Foreign

Relations, a representative of the ARF Armenian Supreme Body made a

rather strict speech. "Ones who struggle for the Armenian Genocide, do

it in a peaceful and civilized way, those who deny the genocide fact,

use the whole repressive resource of the state or simply shoot. Hrant

Dink was too right, considering that the greatest achievement fixed on

the way of Turkey to the European Union can be the Armenian Genocide

recognition," the Armenian deputy said in his speech. He also called

on the Turkish side to follow the example of Germany recognized the

Holocaust and recongnize the Armenian Genocide.

 

According to the radio station, the Turkish deputies present at the

sitting restrainedly responded A.Rustamian's speech.

 

[zurderer]

I say crocodile tears to your killer generals.

They could not predict the outcome this time and it backfired badly, hence plan B came into effect which is show sympathy. They thought there will be little fanfare and silence Hrant. Did they ever miscalculate the outcome.

 

Infact I dont remember when majority of turks supported army.

 

after every coup army did, Turks voted party which army did no supported. They jailed Erdogan and look at result. Yeah. They miscalculated a lot.

 

Also I dont remember any time, Turks supported an assassination inside of Turkey.

 

I can still not see what deep state can gain from this assasination?

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

 

 

Dink: Victim of Deadly Denialism

 

 

 

 

ArmRadio.am

26.01.2007 10:32

 

"As several world political, religious and other civic leaders

condemn the January 19, 2007 Turkish premeditated murder of an

innocent Armenian journalist Hrant Dink (1954-2007), many optimists

expressed hope that as a result, a blanket positive change will take

place in what is now Turkey. They believe that Dink's assassination

will automatically result into a positive change," Appo K. Jabarian,

Managing Editor and Executive Director of the USA Armenian Life

Magazine wrote an article titled "Dink: Victim of Deadly Denialism."

 

The author goes on to say: "Other observers anticipate that the

original perpetrators and their denialist descendants will continue

their genocidal campaign in denialism with an unpunished deadly

devotion to keeping the loot: the forcibly occupied Armenian lands of

Western Armenia and Cilicia, and the Greek lands of Constantinople,

Smyrna, Troy, Pontus and Northern Cyprus.

 

Setting my disagreements with the late fellow journalist Dink

aside, I consider him as the newest Armenian martyr of the Armenian

Genocide. Yes, we did have our disagreements, yet we were in complete

harmony with the noble goal of seeing a transformed Turkish society

that would ultimately atone itself by genuinely repenting its 1915-1923

genocidal crime against the Armenian nation; by making honest amends

to the Armenian people.

 

When this writer had asked him during his October 2006 visit in Los

Angeles about his position on the issue of the Turkish-occupied

Armenian lands, Dink had swiftly replied: "I'm living on these

lands." In my opinion, that is one of the root reasons why the

extremist Turks have encouraged a young Turk to annihilate Dink. The

Turkish "Deep State" is more concerned with losing much more than

their monopoly of power. They are fearful of "losing" their loot from

the Armenians: the historic lands of Western Armenia and Cilicia, and

personal and real properties confiscated from the Armenians.

 

In a January 22 article titled "A 'Trabzon Legend' Gave The Orders To

Kill Hrant Dink," the Turkish daily Hurriet wrote: "Yasin Hayal, the

man now suspected of giving the orders to 17 year old Ogun Samast to

murder journalist Hrant Dink. His ultra-nationalist rhetoric focused

on what he perceived as 'enemies of the state,' and he told the

disaffected youth who spent time with him that it was 'their duty'

to see to the punishment of those who 'insulted Turkey.' ... Hayal

reportedly admitted 'I gave the gun and the money to Ogun Samast. I

am angry at the things, which are happening in this country. The

state is doing nothing to the people who are against Turkey. Which

is why I gave Ogun this job. He carried out his duty successfully,

and he helped rescue Turkey's honor.'"

 

In a January 23 article titled "Armenia haunts the Turks again,"

Hugh Pope of the Los Angeles Times wrote: "Dink, who was repeatedly

threatened by such nationalists, was left unprotected, but not just by

the Turkish police. Bad laws, malevolent prosecutions and a growing

nationalist hysteria helped create a lynch mob atmosphere. What

killed Dink, in short, is the Turkish republic's inability to deal

with the Armenian issue - the charge that its predecessor state, the

Ottoman Empire, killed 1.2 million Armenian men, women and children

in a genocide that began in 1915."

 

Even the succeeding and currently ruling Turkish Republic under Mustafa

Kemal continued its predecessor Ottoman Turkey's genocidal campaign

killing additional hundreds of thousands of innocent Armenians,

Greeks, Assyrians and Arabs, and others.

 

Pope continued: "Official Turkey is stuck in a rut of

denial. Discussing the great omissions on the subject in Turkey's

public education remains taboo. Efforts to open archives and to

'leave it to the historians' lead to dead ends, partly because a

scholarly debate won't assuage Diaspora Armenians who demand formal

acknowledgment of the genocide, and partly because of Turkey's

anti-free-speech laws - most notoriously Penal Code Article 301,

with its catchall penalties for 'denigrating Turkishness. ' "

 

There is righteous Turkishness embodied by individuals like Orhan

Pamuk, Ahmed Ertegun and others that deserves to be honored. And there

is brut Turkish denialism that needs to be condemned and discouraged.

 

There are genuine followers of Turkish Holy Islam that are worthy of

our respect, because they are the conscience of humane Turk in the

very footsteps of their forefathers who saved many Armenians from

annihilation, and undoubtedly would have done everything to protect

and save Dink's life. And there are those Turks who masquerade

as "nationalists", yet they are usurpers of Armenians' lands, and

desecrators of the Armenian churches and mutilators of the truth, just

like those denialist leaders in Ankara and elsewhere who have been

doing everything to intimidate Dink and others into silence through

acts of repression and deadly denialism - just like it happened on

Friday January 19 in front of Dink's Agos weekly offices; an act that

cut short an "agos" (water furrow) for truth,democracy and justice."

 

[Aratta-Kingdom]

Declaration of the European Armenian Federation on the occasion of Hrant Dink's funeral

 

ArmRadio.am

26.01.2007 11:52

 

On the occasion of Hrant Dink's funerals, the Armenian journalist

assassinated in Istanbul on January 19th, the European Armenian

Federation pays tribute to the courage of this man who dared to talk

about the Armenian Genocide in a State which persists in hiding this

criminal truth from its citizens and continues its aggressive policy

of denial at home and abroad.

 

Hrant Dink was born in Malatya, a city where the vast majority of

the Armenian inhabitants was exterminated and deported during the

Genocide, an event which deeply affected Dink's family. His family was

then forced to turkify its name under Mustafa Kemal's government,

much as many other Armenian survivors who remained among those

who had taken part in their destruction. Dink's family moved, many

years later in the 1950s, to Istanbul, where -deprived of the normal

avenues of educational advancement, Hrant and his two brothers were

accepted into the academic care of the Armenian Evangelical Church

of Besiktas. Since he began publishing "Agos," the Armenian Turkish

bilingual weekly, 8 years ago, the main struggle of Hrant Dink was

the recognition by Turkey of the Armenian Genocide.

 

He took upon himself the mission of educating the Turkish people about

the truth of the Armenian Genocide, a truth denied and falsified by

successive Turkish governments. He was inspired by the government's

superficial - and ultimately illusory - liberalization of discussion

of this subject under pressure from the international community,

and particularly Europe, on Turkey to join the family of civilized

nations. These external trappings of tolerance were shown, by his

assassination, to have been little more than window dressing intended

to impress the outside world, while covering up an escalation of

repression within Turkey's borders.

 

Hrant Dink's struggle for Genocide recognition took place within the

context of Turkey's desire for EU accession. He supported the Turkish

government's effort to secure EU membership and fought against efforts

in Europe and the United States to recognize the Armenian Genocide,

holding that any such external pressure on Turkey would incite

his country's "extremists" to greater heights of anti-Armenian

"radicalisation." The tragic death of Hrant proves that Turkish

extremists - acting on the cue of Turkish officials - need no such

incitement to kill those who tell the truth.

 

Dink's efforts led to great frustration, particularly as he came to

understand that his path was blocked by entrenched forces within the

Turkish state. Facing this hidden opposition and harsh public backlash

it sparked, he considered leaving Turkey to live in Europe. In fact,

prior to the European Summit of December 2004, fearing persecutions

and outright execution if Turkey were rejected by the EU, he planned

to never return in his country. Recently, condemned by the Turkish

justice system for "insulting Turkishness," he reported widely on

the racism he was subjected to as an Armenian in Turkey.

 

Hrant Dink sought, until the end, to provide Europe with a positive -

but ultimately false - image of Turkey as a place where the force

of ideas can change the basic foundations of an authoritarian and

ultra-nationalistic State. He paid with his life for this belief. It

is regrettable to see that his death is not an isolated event in a

society that was established - and continues to

function - based on fostering hatred toward minorities.

 

This is the same principle that led to the extermination of the

Armenians. It is the same idea that currently fuels the denial of

the Armenian Genocide - a continuation of this crime that must be

forcefully condemned and legally prohibited within Europe.

 

[Yervant1]

Infact I dont remember when majority of turks supported army.

 

after every coup army did, Turks voted party which army did no supported. They jailed Erdogan and look at result. Yeah. They miscalculated a lot.

 

Also I dont remember any time, Turks supported an assassination inside of Turkey.

 

I can still not see what deep state can gain from this assasination?

Are you OK you just said it "They miscalculated"

Hrant was getting lots of support from Turks and the State is worried from things happening inside Turkey not outside. This is what Hrant was doing getting Turks to face their past and come to terms with it, slowly but surely he was getting ahead therefore they silenced him. Few more days and he will be forgotten and forever silenced, this is their gain and send a signal to the rest who are following in the footsteps of Hrant.

I hope you get it this time.

[Aratta-Kingdom]

 

 

TURKEY IS NOT ABLE TO ESTIMATE CONSEQUENCES OF HRANT DINK'S MURDER

 

Yerevan, January 25. ArmInfo. The Turkish public is not able to

estimate the whole weight of murder of the Armenian journalist Hrant

Dink, a historian, Sahak Sahakyan, said at today's press-conference.

 

He noted that the murder of the journalist in Istanbul is a glaring

example of the absence of principles of democracy and freedom of

speech in Turkey.

 

"Now it becomes clear that it is impossible to fight against the whole

state machine, which annihilates those who fight for the historical

truth", S. Sahakyan said.

 

[zurderer]

So now, will They kill Etyem mahcupyan? in his last three article,He directly and indirectly accused turks with genocide. (I think he went berserk after the assassination of Dink.)

 

I should add, He is writing zaman, a much big newspaper than Agos. Infact one of biggest newspaper of Turkey and a religious newspaper.

 

So, no. Armenians will continue to talk.

 

Anyway, I think It is time to close discussion. We are different idea about this.

 

I should add, It is impossible to return back.(Deep state is not stupid state. They will know result of this assasination.)

 

Edited January 26, 2007 by zurderer

[Yervant1]

So now, will They kill Etyem mahcupyan? in his last three article,He directly and indirectly accused turks with genocide. (I think he went berserk after the assassination of Dink.)

 

I should add, He is writing zaman, a much big newspaper than Agos. Infact one of biggest newspaper of Turkey and a religious newspaper.

 

So, no. Armenians will continue to talk.

 

Anyway, I think It is time to close discussion. We are different idea about this.

 

I should add, It is impossible to return back.(Deep state is not stupid state. They will know result of this assasination.)

You got it wrong again. Even though talking about the Genocide is very painfull for Armenians, you can be rest assured that we will talk about it for another 90 years until Turks come to terms with their past and accept the truth.

[zurderer]

I am talking about bolsohays. They are generally afraid from state(So they stay quite.) Dink was speaking about genocide. I thought, you said, Dinks killed, so no armenian in Turkey would speak about genocide.