hosank Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 I think you are reinforcing Arpa's point. These are all moral victories. Turkey's population is almost 80 mil. It still holds lands we Armenians consider our homeland and it is a regionally important nations with close ties to superpowers. Armenia's population is less then 3mil it has an insignifican economy and is considered a political backwater. The brave souls who liberated Artsak also put Armenia on the map and gave it some regional importance. Those are the types of Armenians we should all strive to be. u kidding me? in what way am i reinforcing his point. im angry at him for mocking our victories. I hate people that sit on their asses and critisize. 50% of the american population didnt vote...and then these same idiots complain. GO VOTE, then complain. its the same thing as arpa. who cares about population? those 3000 are MILITARY VICTORIES. not genocide. turks have this and that...but at the cost of the extinction of all kinds of different races. theres so much blood on turkeys hands time wont wash away... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 u kidding me? in what way am i reinforcing his point. im angry at him for mocking our victories. I hate people that sit on their asses and critisize. 50% of the american population didnt vote...and then these same idiots complain. GO VOTE, then complain. its the same thing as arpa. who cares about population? those 3000 are MILITARY VICTORIES. not genocide. turks have this and that...but at the cost of the extinction of all kinds of different races. theres so much blood on turkeys hands time wont wash away... sorry...last comment was mine, i was on my brothers computer... irlandahay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 sorry...last comment was mine, i was on my brothers computer... irlandahay As if one Irlandahay was not enough, now we have to deal with his brother as well. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Those ancient civilizations didn't concider themselves "nations" as we do. It's all about definition and the cognitive level of comprehension. Nation as an abstraction is something recent. To the ancienct man it could change with the times, you know? One day the family, the clan the next, village , city, conquerer and so on. As if one Irlandahay was not enough, now we have to deal with his brother as well. tongue.gif smile.gif smile.gif Arka, I can't see why YOU are complaining. That only means more propaganda for Your Highness' activities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihr Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 The idea of this book is a good one, considering the institute editing the book is influencing in RA, they may use it as a diplomatical object for Armenia i mailed the Noravank institute guys who edited the new book to ask if they will also sell it in english but no answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 As if one Irlandahay was not enough, now we have to deal with his brother as well. :) lol, should we put him in charge of bearias homeland security? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 It's all about definition and the cognitive level of comprehension. Nation as an abstraction is something recent. To the ancienct man it could change with the times, you know? One day the family, the clan the next, village , city, conquerer and so on. Arka, I can't see why YOU are complaining. That only means more propaganda for Your Highness' activities... i understand but still, as iv said before, nationnalism in itself (the word and its meaning in the dictionnary) might have been an 18th century invention, but it was there since the dawn of time. it cant be called nationnalism..maybe expansionnism? point being, without the desire to surpass, there is no advancing in time and wed still be eating cow dung if we all just sat on our arses and did nothing. LOL, Zartonk, arnt you supposed to be minister of propaganda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Social Evolution. I still have that post my friend, but I need my youth to be active too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Social Evolution. I still have that post my friend, but I need my youth to be active too... lol dont worry, in my corner, i am training strong able bodied bears. unfortunately, king yervant desired honey last week. the attack on the bee kingdom was devastating. we lost some of our greatest beariorrs (bear-warriors )the total casualties was 1 342 dead, 11 264 wounded. awards: 8 purple hearts, 6 beariorr cross, one "oder of yervant". cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartonk Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 HAHA! "Odar"! Hope this guy is one of your boys... http://www.pistolwhipvideo.com/images/bigbe1.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 HAHA! "Odar"! Hope this guy is one of your boys... http://www.pistolwhipvideo.com/images/bigbe1.jpg ahhh i remember him...good man. suffered multiple wounds and is now in one of our bear hospitals hel bee (get the pun) fine cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 true. nationalism did not lead to civilisation. if you think about it, it makes absolutely no sense. why would you be a nationalist before the concept of a nation is created? infact, the modern nation-state only began to shape at around the period of the french revolution. so we can see that nationalism as we know it today is a fairly recent phenomenon. btw, sardarabad was a victory, but surrounded by defeat and azeri-soviet treason that lead to our nation becoming a communist subordinate btw...the azeri battalions were disbanded, not the armenian legion. the armenian legion surrendered to the western allies. hitler distrusted the azeris. he did distrust the armenians at first, but armenian germans as well as german scientists managed to prove to hitler that armenians were aryans or something like that. hitler then signed a certificate, proving that armenians were aryans and deserved to have a battalion of their own. it is true that the armenians helped many jews escape execution though. i don't think many armenian whermacht units opposed to armenian soviet units. but, the armenians that were captured by other german divisions were sent to armenian units. i read that the few encounters between german and soviet armenians were usually non-violent and lead to defection by soviets to the armenian lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 and you guys are mixing things up the book is talking about 3000 military victories on a span of 5000 years. a local victory is a victory, even if the next week, a counterattack forces you to lose the territory you gained earlier. it is true that we do not have our land. but soon we will be writing a new book about 5000 armenian victories in 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Սարդարապատի ճակատամարտէն ետք (անկասկած, որ յաղթանակ էր), ոսմանեան բանակը Հայաստանի կառավարութիւնէն հրաման առաւ որպէսզի անցնի արեւելեան թուրքերու մօտ, դէպի Բագու: Խնդրեմ այս նութիմասին զրուցէք:Հայաստանի պետութիւնը լաւ գիտէր թուրքերու նպատակը, այդուհանդերձ աւելորդ գլխացաւէ հեռու մնալու համար, թոյլ տուաւ որ անցնին: ոսմանցինք գացին Շուշի եւ Բագու: Գիտէք ինչ եղաւ ետքը: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Dear friend. Lately we had a friend used the same words like, hitler, aryan and so on. May you are the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 Hitler & his ideology is shame full. Please do not remember his name with good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 lol, should we put him in charge of bearias homeland security? That would be OK, give him also the ministry of Trade and Commerce. Make sure he looks after Bearia's parfume industry particularly this brand. "oder of yervant" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlandahay Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 That would be OK, give him also the ministry of Trade and Commerce. Make sure he looks after Bearia's parfume industry particularly this brand. HAHAHAHAHA i'l see to it PERSONNALLY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neko Posted January 13, 2007 Report Share Posted January 13, 2007 "Minute studies show that Armenians have celebrated overall 3,000 military victories," he added. And though the holes were rather small, They had to count them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HyeFedayis Posted January 14, 2007 Report Share Posted January 14, 2007 Another Armenian contribution, the the first three Ministers of the Privy Treasury of the Ottoman Empire were Armenian, the first being Hagop Kazazian *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 May be he was a slave indeed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annannimusss Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Why do you guys star out the name *****? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 yes johannes do agree with you hitler should not be remembered as good. if by friend you were refering to me, well, no im not the same person, im sure you would notice in the way i post. when i used the words hitler and aryan and do on, i was not using them in a provocative way, but only to correct irlandahays version of the armenian legion's history. all i said was that hitler viewed them as legitimate aryans, unlike the azeris who were disbanded. that post had no political motive to it and its factual truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johannes Posted January 16, 2007 Report Share Posted January 16, 2007 Oh I know that you are not the same. It was joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hosank Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 ալլահ կիճ ես լօլ լաւ ծիծաղեցի ախ ինչ վոր ա քիտեմ վոր կատակ ես անում Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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