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so, error, what's your opinion about Tata?

 

Harut

 

do you use lubricant when you go to work?

 

As far as it to Tata goes you know the answer of your question so why are you asking?

 

But since you have asked it is not ethical not to answer it.

Tata is rabiz singer too although he has some non rabiz good songs.

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Edo jan,

 

nax yev araj vor zhoghovrdi hay te turk? Yete turk liovin hamadsayn em. Hayi depqum: yete hashvi arnenq asiacineri bazmutyun@ mer zhoghovrdi mej, karelia yev edpes asel. Edpesela patahum...

 

Bayc yes karcum em Aram Xachaturyani classic erazhshtutyun@ haykakan coloritnerov vor yurorinak en irenc eutyamb, komitasi yerazhshtutyun@, Sayat Novayi siro pilisopayakan govergutyun@ yev ayl nmanorinak taghandneri gorcern u votshna mer joghovrdi tsocic durs ekel.

 

 

Error jan du toniri koxqin lavash txox mayrikin lseles inch e yerqum, kam hundz anox ramikin, kam darpinin, kamel en kamaz gshox varortin, shukayun Anahit pamidor vajarox gyuxatsun, mer taxi serop papin, 14 tarekanum yerp jambarum magnitafon chueyinq ay en Artashatsi karmir tsherov axchkan vor yerqumer u menq el parumeyinq pionerakan? sharunakem te patkeratsnumes?

 

isk inch verabervume mer dasakan yerajshtutyan@, orinak Xachatrian, Komitas, Mansuryan, Amirxanyan, yev aylenn, hamematuyune sxal e anel u asel na haykakan che sa e haykakan, qu mej Ka nax@trutyun, yes kaseye sahmanapakvats, vor ches entunum verum nshvats martkants.....

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Error jan du toniri koxqin lavash txox mayrikin lseles inch e yerqum, kam hundz anox ramikin, kam darpinin, kamel en kamaz gshox varortin, shukayun Anahit pamidor vajarox gyuxatsun, mer taxi serop papin, 14 tarekanum yerp jambarum magnitafon chueyinq ay en Artashatsi karmir tsherov axchkan vor yerqumer u menq el parumeyinq pionerakan? sharunakem te patkeratsnumes?

 

isk inch verabervume mer dasakan yerajshtutyan@, orinak Xachatrian, Komitas, Mansuryan, Amirxanyan, yev aylenn, hamematuyune sxal e anel u asel na haykakan che sa e haykakan, qu mej Ka nax@trutyun, yes kaseye sahmanapakvats, vor ches entunum verum nshvats martkants.....

 

Lol Edo jan,

 

es incher es grel. Yerevi shtapel es ches hascrel imi berel. Gracid vrayov mi hat el vor ancneir hastat knkateir (hamozvac em).

 

Edo jan yes pionerakan tshambar gnacel em rabiz erazhshtutyun chem tesel. Tshambarum pionerakan erger ein sovoracnum. Aravotyan el zham@ 7 in hraparakum orkestr@ hin razmakan qaylerg kam paterazmakan vals er nvagum erb menq marzanq einq anum.

 

Toniri koghqin nstac nayel em poqr hasakum inchpes en lavash txum u cacr kam mijin dsaynov haykakan hayrenasirakan kam el siro masin erger mrmnjum. Bayc dranq el rabiz chein ayl maqur hin haykakan yerger ein.

 

Hunds anogh ramik@, pamidor vatsharox Anahit@ hamozvac em eli hin haykakan erger en ergum.

 

Isk varordner@ hin hal u mash eghac irenc magnitafonov vor mono er menak nvagum u galovken amen or pit maqreirn vor dsen haner mi erku hat rabiz kaset unein ed ein lsum. Ed piti xostovanem vor varordneri mecamasnutyun@ rabiz ein lsum. Ejmiacinci Kamo (oghormi iran, inq@ iran gusan cher hamarum) yev ayln.

 

Piti avelacnem nayev radioov u herustatesutyamb araj erbeq rabiz cheir lsi. Che? Aveli shat classic ein talis mek el azgain erger.

 

Stegh ka shat hstak bazhanum zhanreri bazhanum Edo jan Azgain yev Rabiz. Petq chi @ndhanracnel.

 

Rabiz@ sksec u lav armatavorvec mer zhoghovrdi mej voch shat vaguc. U der edpes el sharunakveluya. Cavalia bayc pasta.

 

Naxntranq bolorn el unen edpes chi? Amen mard kara siri mi qani zhanr yev chsiri mek@ kam erkus@.

Yes konkret chem sirum rabiz@.

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Anushik jan / es kiraki Yekeretsy uzzum es gnal ??? lsel mi qich te inchpes en Aghotum ??

Sxalvum es, sireli Movses.

 

I've accompanied an Armenian church choir on numerous occasions, so I know more than enough how they sing the liturgy. However, most Armenian church choirs here are very unprofessional. They don't get paid so therefore they never get together to rehearse during the week. They only meet once a week and sing together. It's a pity that their singing resembles that of mugham singing. But it's not mugham. I completely agree with my Armenian music history teacher in regards to the lack of well-trained and well-advised Armenian musicians, especially in churches. If a non-Armenian is interested to hear Armenian liturgical music, there is nowhere in this big diaspora where one can recommend to hear our great, unique sacred music.

 

Even from a musicological perspective, Armenian music and singing style has always leaned to that of the West. I don't know much about mugham, but this seems to be correct information about mugham. At least the part about the microtones. "Free meter and microtonal, with the octave divided up into 84 potential divisions, mugham is guided by 'rules' that allow for its perpetual renewal and further evolution in nuance. As 'trance' music, the melodies composing mugham must remain true to the chosen scale..." Armenian music has its own distinctive scales, but the scales have a division of only six or seven tones. The Armenian modes resemble that of the Greek modes (which of course are the basis of the regular Major/Minor scale).

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Anushik jan verch@ enpe ses anelu or es kiraki gorsers* toghnem yev qez Yekeghetsy tanem or mugham @ matnanish anem ????

 

Gortser*

aravot 10am Xash & Shogeyep Tavari Lezu / Vernon Qaghaqum Palmdell chhasats - heto el dzuk brnel /// de hima du indz asa mugham lselna indz karrevor te ?? dzuk b@rnel@ ???

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Mosjan mi karta sa (mi inch vor haykakan forumits, hexinake Mariam)

 

 

Orn er mtnum,

Luysern hangchum.

Mtnshaxn er dimavorum.

Husheris mej mankutyan,

Im KYAVARN er hiasqanch:

Tatis tan@ kar tonir

Mayrs er mer tan hactux@

Tats tonirn er varum

U xmoric,

Poqrik, tmblik gnder shinum

Isk mayriks jpteres,

Glxashorn er dzig kapum

Ev hachuyqov gorci ancnum.

Grtnaki hertn e ekel,

Tanum berum er gnder@

U nurb hacer er bacum,

Xpum er na tonri shurtin,

Karmir lavash durs berum,

Mors achqern arcunqotvum,

Mors demq@ karmrum,

U amen mi ereko

Mec te poqr havaqvac,

Mors txac hacn einq utum

Mtnshaxi jamanak.

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Gortser*

aravot 10am Xash & Shogeyep Tavari Lezu / Vernon Qaghaqum Palmdell chhasats - heto el dzuk brnel /// de hima du indz asa mugham lselna indz karrevor te ?? dzuk b@rnel@ ???

:P :P :P

 

Che... cheghav, aveli lav e du gnas qo gortserin :P

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Mosjan mi karta sa (mi inch vor haykakan forumits, hexinake Mariam)

Orn er mtnum,

Luysern hangchum.

Mtnshaxn er dimavorum.

Husheris mej mankutyan,

Im KYAVARN er hiasqanch:

Tatis tan@ kar tonir

Mayrs er mer tan hactux@

Tats tonirn er varum

U xmoric,

Poqrik, tmblik gnder shinum

Isk mayriks jpteres,

Glxashorn er dzig kapum

Ev hachuyqov gorci ancnum.

Grtnaki hertn e ekel,

Tanum berum er gnder@

U nurb hacer er bacum,

Xpum er na tonri shurtin,

Karmir lavash durs berum,

Mors achqern arcunqotvum,

Mors demq@ karmrum,

U amen mi ereko

Mec te poqr havaqvac,

Mors txac hacn einq utum

Mtnshaxi jamanak.

Yetvart jan; sa vodanavore pavagan nman eh Taniel Varoujani vodanavorneroun yerp an Hayreni kughe gerke. Ays al shad nman eh ir keroutyunneroun. :)

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