Chirac In Shirak

[Arpa]

Chirac in Shirak.

Below from AZG.

The French President Chirac in Yerevan.

At 7:40 PM Yerevan time President Chirac’s jet landed at Zvartnots . A half hour before, the First Lady’s jet had also landed accompanied with another jetful of reporters and newsmen. Accompanying the President are the ministers of transportation, tourism and naval affairs. Pres. Chirac was greeted by Pres. Kocharian and his entourage. Both national anthems of France and Armenia were played. On Saturday Sept. 30 Pres. Chirac will visit the Genocide memorial and museum at Tstitsernakaberd, and proceed from there to the dedication of Avenue De France as well as attend the celebrations at the Hraparak featuring Aznavour and company.

The report goes on remarking that the Turkish media has been nervous and that an editorial in Hurriet, among others have been wondering if Pres. Chirac will utter the G word.

Also please observe the item from ArmeniaNow about the twins Zhak and Shirak.

 

AZG Armenian Daily #186, 30/09/2006

 

ԵՐԵՎԱՆՈՒՄ Է ՖՐԱՆՍԻԱՅԻ ՆԱԽԱԳԱՀ ԺԱԿ ՇԻՐԱԿԸ

Թուրքական լրատվամիջոցները մտահոգ են

ԹԱՄԱՐ ՄԻՆԱՍՅԱՆ

Երեկ երեկոյան ժամը 19:40-ի շրջանում "Զվարթնոց" օդանավակայանում վայրէջք կատարեց Ֆրանսիայի Հանրապետության նախագահ Ժակ Շիրակի ինքնաթիռը: Ֆրանսիայի Հանրապետության նախագահին եւ նրան ուղեկցող պատվիրակությանը դիմավորեց հայկական պատվիրակությունը՝ հանրապետության նախագահ Ռոբերտ Քոչարյանի գլխավորությամբ: Հայկական պատվիրակության կազմում էին Ազգային ժողովի, կառավարության ներկայացուցիչներ, պաշտոնատար անձինք: Ֆրանսիայի Հանրապետության նախագահին ուղեկցում էին տրանսպորտի, զբոսաշրջության եւ ծովագնացության, պետական ծառայության, մշակույթի եւ հաղորդակցության նախարարները, գործարարներ: "Զվարթնոց" օդանավակայանում ի պատիվ երկու երկրների նախագահների հնչեցին պետական օրհներգերը:

Ժակ Շիրակի այցից շուրջ 30 րոպե առաջ Երեւան ժամանեց Ֆրանսիայի Հանրապետության առաջին տիկնոջ ինքնաթիռը, ապա եւս մեկ ինքնաթիռ՝ հիմնականում ֆրանսիացի լրագրողներով:

Ժակ Շիրակի այցը Հայաստան թուրքական մի շարք լրատվամիջոցների ուշադրությանն է արժանացել: Պարզ է, որ մեր հարեւանների հիմնական մտահոգության պատճառը Ժակ Շիրակի այցն է Մեծ եղեռնի զոհերի հուշահամալիր: Թուրքական "Հյուրիեթը" երեկվա համարում գրում է. "Ժակ Շիրակն այցելելու է Ծիծեռնակաբերդի հուշահամալիր եւ Ցեղասպանության թանգարան, որի պարտեզում էլ ծառ է տնկելու: Հետաքրքրական է տեսնել, թե արդյոք Հայաստան այցելող Ֆրանսիայի նախագահը կարտասանի՞ Հայոց ցեղասպանություն բառը":

Ժակ Շիրակն այսօր Հայոց ցեղասպանության հուշահամալիր եւ թանգարան այցելելուց զատ, կմասնակցի Հայաստանում Ֆրանսիական հրապարակի բացման արարողությանը, կհանդիպի լրատվամիջոցների ներկայացուցիչների հետ, իսկ երեկոյան կմասնակցի "Հայաստան, իմ բարեկամ" խորագիրը կրող Ֆրանսիայում Հայաստանի տարվա միջոցառման մեկնարկին՝ Շառլ Ազնավուրի եւ ընկերների բացօթյա համերգին:

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Two Names, One Meaning: Jacques and Chirac welcome Jacques Chirac By Gayane Abrahamyan

ArmeniaNow reporter

On the day, January 31, 2001 when the President of France ratified a law acknowledging the Armenian Genocide, villager Vardan Ohanyan was so excited he named his newborn twin sons after the French statesman.

Jacques and Chirac. Or is it Chirac and Jacques?

 

Today, Jacques and Chirac Ohanyan may be too small yet to fully appreciate the etymology of their names, but the visit to Armenia by their namesake has raised nation-wide excitement.

None may be more excited than Vardan Ohanyan, but no more so than that day five years ago.

“I was rejoicing – I had just had two sons, and a big country like France had adopted the fact of the Armenian Genocide,” says Ohanyan.

Anna Kirakosyan, the mother of the twins, was still in the maternity hospital and would call her sons Mikayel and Samvel, as she and her husband had decided before the birth of the children.

“My husband came into the ward and told me he had decided to name the children after Jacques Chirac. I was unaware of the events and was very amazed with the decision,” tells Kirakosyan.

The mother’s amazement turned into happiness, when she learned the reason of honoring the French President.

According to an Armenian tradition children are named after their grand parents. The Ohanyans were also going to follow the tradition, but the decision by Jacques Chirac was so dear to the Ohanyans that they replaced their parents’ names with that of the French President.

“Our relatives didn’t mind. On the contrary, all of them were very happy and proud, when we told them the decision we had made,” says Ohanyan.

Jacques and Chirac will turn 6 on February 2. Jacques is 10 minutes older than Chirac. They are aware that they have unusual names, but get a little confused in explaining why.

“My name is that of the King of France,” Chirac shouts with pride. Jacques, a shy boy, continues: “we were named so, because …, I don’t remember.”

The mother says people even recognize her because of the names of her sons.

“At kindergarten and policlinics, or anywhere, people immediately react by saying, ‘oh, these are the children, who were named after Jacques Chirac’. People remember us, because we were alone in taking such a step of gratitude,” says Kirakosyan.

Parents rarely separate the children’s names and call them together.

The parents are proud of the French president.

 

“We always say, for instance, Jacques Chirac come home, or Jacques Chirac be quiet,” says the mother.

This means the name “Jacques Chirac” is pronounced in the Nerkin Charbakh District in Yerevan dozens of times per day. And many of the neighbors have learned the name of the French President this way.

The Ohanyans have moved to a further suburb of Yerevan several years ago, because of the lack of jobs in their village.

At the time Jacques and Chirac were born, the family lived in a metal domik (a small house). With the support of relatives, they have built a small stone house, furnished with a table and an armchair.

“We and our children are happy with having this much. The most important thing is that we have a home, we will get the rest in time,” says Kirakosyan.

Jacques and Chirac have seen the French president on TV and know he is coming to Yerevan. They would like very much to meet the man who gave them their name.

Edited September 30, 2006 by Arpa

[gamavor]

http://yerkirtv.org/userfiles/video/20060930_title08.wmv

 

I've noticed something very funny! While Chirac talked about global issues our own Robert talked about economy. At the end before they left the Presidental palace, Chirac stoped for a while to waive for the crowd, while our own Robert was hurring up to the car

[sen_Vahan]

http://yerkirtv.org/userfiles/video/20060930_title08.wmv

 

I've noticed something very funny! While Chirac talked about global issues our own Robert talked about economy. At the end before they left the Presidental palace, Chirac stoped for a while to waive for the crowd, while our own Robert was hurring up to the car

 

And I have noticed Oskanyan asleep when the camera pointed toward him first time. Did you see that? Hehehe

[Arpa]

Chirac in Shirak.

Below from AZG.

The French President Chirac in Yerevan.

At 7:40 PM Yerevan time President Chirac’s jet landed at Zvartnots . A half hour before, the First Lady’s jet had also landed accompanied with another jetful of reporters and newsmen. Accompanying the President are the ministers of transportation, tourism and naval affairs. Pres. Chirac was greeted by Pres. Kocharian and his entourage. Both national anthems of France and Armenia were played. On Saturday Sept. 30 Pres. Chirac will visit the Genocide memorial and museum at Tstitsernakaberd, and proceed from there to the dedication of Avenue De France as well as attend the celebrations at the Hraparak featuring Aznavour and company.

The report goes on remarking that the Turkish media has been nervous and that an editorial in Hurriet, among others have been wondering if Pres. Chirac will utter the G word.

So! Did he or did he not?

Let’s see what those SSO’s(shun-shan-ordi’s) west of the border are saying.

And, to see how Armenians return the favor got to Mayraqaghaq and see how a whole mayraqahaq has been named for Jacques Shirak… Shirakavan :)

 

‘Genocide’ tension with France grows

Sunday, October 1, 2006

 

Asked at a press conference if Turkey should recognize the 1915-1917 massacre at the hands of Ottoman Turks Armenians as genocide, he replies: 'Honestly, I believe so'

 

ANKARA/YEREVAN - Turkish Daily News with AFP

 

Relations between Ankara and Paris suffered a serious blow on Saturday with the statement by French President Jacques Chirac declaring on a visit to Armenia that Turkey should recognize the massacre of Armenians during World War I as “genocide” before its possible accession to the European Union.

Asked at a press conference if Turkey should recognize the 1915-1917 massacre at the hands of Ottoman Turks Armenians as genocide, he replied: "Honestly, I believe so."

"All countries grow up acknowledging their dramas and their errors," said Chirac, who is on a two-day visit to Armenia.

 

Armenian academics to study the allegations.

While Ankara refrained Saturday from issuing a statement condemning the development, senior Turkish officials talking to the TDN said Chirac's remarks were “totally unacceptable” and will likely have a serious impact on economic and political relations between Turkey and France.

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On Saturday Chirac, accompanied by his wife Bernadette, attended a solemn

recognized as part of Azerbaijan.

You can read the rest of turkey droppings at their heap of garbage site.

[Arpa]

So! Did he or did he not?

Let’s see what those SSO’s(shun-shan-ordi’s) west of the border are saying.Turks Armenians as genocide, he replied: "Honestly, I believe so."

"All countries grow up acknowledging their dramas and their errors," said Chirac, who is on a two-day visit to Armenia.

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[/i]

You can read the rest of turkey droppings at their heap of garbage site.

On second thought I thought it would be interesting to see the whole article and see what kind of yezan triq /manure is being spread.

 

‘Genocide’ tension with France grows

Sunday, October 1, 2006

 

Asked at a press conference if Turkey should recognize the 1915-1917 massacre at the hands of Ottoman Turks Armenians as genocide, he replies: 'Honestly, I believe so'

 

ANKARA/YEREVAN - Turkish Daily News with AFP

 

Relations between Ankara and Paris suffered a serious blow on Saturday with the statement by French President Jacques Chirac declaring on a visit to Armenia that Turkey should recognize the massacre of Armenians during World War I as “genocide” before its possible accession to the European Union.

Asked at a press conference if Turkey should recognize the 1915-1917 massacre at the hands of Ottoman Turks Armenians as genocide, he replied: "Honestly, I believe so."

"All countries grow up acknowledging their dramas and their errors," said Chirac, who is on a two-day visit to Armenia.

The development came amid intense efforts by Turkey to avoid the French National Assembly adopt a resolution recognizing the killings of Armenians in the first quarter of last century as a “genocide.” The vote is scheduled for Oct. 12.

Yet diplomatic sources at the Turkish Foreign Ministry, speaking to the Turkish Daily News, underlined the importance Turkey attributes to bilateral relations with France and expressed concern that adoption of such a controversial bill would harm relations between the two peoples as well as French businessmen doing business in and with Turkey.

“Even if this bill is adopted, it is not possible for Turkey to accept such a theory,” the same sources said, while noting that Ankara has been contacting French officials at every level to prevent the bill's adoption.

Turkish officials drew attention to the fact that Armenia, with its aim of having genocide accusations against Turkey accepted by third-party countries, is trying to damage bilateral relations between Turkey and other countries to secure an advantage in the political arena.

“The Armenian lobby should abandon backstage games and should come up with concrete arguments supported by historical facts,” the diplomatic sources said, referring to Ankara's proposal last year to establish a joint committee of Turkish and Armenian experts to study allegations of an Armenian genocide in the final days of the Ottoman Empire.

Earlier this month, during talks with his French counterpart, Philippe Douste-Blazy, as part of a visit to France, Foreign Minister Abdullah Gül suggested that France participate in such a body.

Gül said at the time that other countries, including France, could join the proposed committee of Turkish and Armenian academics to study the allegations.

While Ankara refrained Saturday from issuing a statement condemning the development, senior Turkish officials talking to the TDN said Chirac's remarks were “totally unacceptable” and will likely have a serious impact on economic and political relations between Turkey and France.

On Saturday Chirac, accompanied by his wife Bernadette, attended a solemn ceremony at Armenia's monument to the 1915-1917 massacres of Armenians at the hands of Ottoman Turks. Chirac is on the first ever visit of a French president to the impoverished Caucasus nation, which is at odds with its Turkic neighbors Azerbaijan and Turkey.

Chirac placed flowers at the towering Tsitsernakaberd monument where he was greeted by an honor guard playing mournful music before being taken on a tour of the so-called "Genocide Museum." France, which has 400,000 citizens of Armenian descent, officially recognized the World War I-era events as “genocide” in 2001, putting a strain on its relations with European Union aspirant and fellow NATO member Turkey.

Many countries, including the United States and Israel, have so far refused to label the massacres as genocide. Ankara argues that 300,000 Armenians and at least as many Turks died in an internal conflict sparked by attempts by Armenians to win independence for eastern Anatolia and secure assistance for their bid from Russia -- Turkey's age-old nemesis.

Armenia is also locked in a stalemate with Azerbaijan over the ethnic-Armenian enclave of Nagorno Karabakh, which it gained control of in an early 1990s war but which is still internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan.

[gamavor]

With all due respect to Chirac (here is the time and place to note that the French are one of the few nations in Europe that I have respect for) his stance on the Genocide is not a moral issue solely. Europeans are hypocrites! Americans are too, but at least they are honest enough to say why they act the way they act. Recently Europeans adopted the same approach, saying that "yeah, Turkey is not all "that" , but you see we need them".

 

As I said before our interest is having Turkey in Europe taking under consideration strictly political and economical reasons. What bothers me though is how Armenian politicians envision the future of Armenia. I also believe that the action plan for the European peaceful neighborhood policy is a TRAP and it is very likely that Armenia could fall in it. The reasons why Europeans need peace in Caucasus (meaning reinforcement of the status quo in the borders and solution to Artsakh issue) is to provide for peaceful flow of the oil from the Caspian. The promised help to that end from Europe towards Armenia will be in the form of fresh financial aid and some limited investments that hardly will improve drastically the economics of the Republic. The new neighborhood policy will freeze the democratic development in the region and will keep Armenia at the mercy of Russia's gas supplies and the goodwill of Georgian custom officers.

 

The only way OUT of such miserable situation is to show our TEETH, no matter how ugly they are, by developing program for weapons of mass destruction with the help of Diaspora.

 

Call me crazy or whatever but this is the language that Europeans (and in general mankind) understand since the World turns.

[skhara]

I totally agree gams. WMD is the only way to be. Now what can Armenia offer Iran in exchange for some enriched uranium? Edited October 4, 2006 by skhara

[gamavor]

Now what can Armenia offer Iran in exchange for some enriched uranium?

 

Isn't it the other way around?

[gmd]

On second thought I thought it would be interesting to see the whole article and see what kind of yezan triq /manure is being spread.

 

‘Genocide’ tension with France grows

Sunday, October 1, 2006

 

Asked at a press conference if Turkey should recognize the 1915-1917 massacre at the hands of Ottoman Turks Armenians as genocide, he replies: 'Honestly, I believe so'

 

ANKARA/YEREVAN - Turkish Daily News with AFP

 

Relations between Ankara and Paris suffered a serious blow on Saturday with the statement by French President Jacques Chirac declaring on a visit to Armenia that Turkey should recognize the massacre of Armenians during World War I as “genocide” before its possible accession to the European Union.

Asked at a press conference if Turkey should recognize the 1915-1917 massacre at the hands of Ottoman Turks Armenians as genocide, he replied: "Honestly, I believe so."

"All countries grow up acknowledging their dramas and their errors," said Chirac, who is on a two-day visit to Armenia.

The development came amid intense efforts by Turkey to avoid the French National Assembly adopt a resolution recognizing the killings of Armenians in the first quarter of last century as a “genocide.” The vote is scheduled for Oct. 12.

Yet diplomatic sources at the Turkish Foreign Ministry, speaking to the Turkish Daily News, underlined the importance Turkey attributes to bilateral relations with France and expressed concern that adoption of such a controversial bill would harm relations between the two peoples as well as French businessmen doing business in and with Turkey.

“Even if this bill is adopted, it is not possible for Turkey to accept such a theory,” the same sources said, while noting that Ankara has been contacting French officials at every level to prevent the bill's adoption.

Turkish officials drew attention to the fact that Armenia, with its aim of having genocide accusations against Turkey accepted by third-party countries, is trying to damage bilateral relations between Turkey and other countries to secure an advantage in the political arena.

“The Armenian lobby should abandon backstage games and should come up with concrete arguments supported by historical facts,” the diplomatic sources said, referring to Ankara's proposal last year to establish a joint committee of Turkish and Armenian experts to study allegations of an Armenian genocide in the final days of the Ottoman Empire.

Earlier this month, during talks with his French counterpart, Philippe Douste-Blazy, as part of a visit to France, Foreign Minister Abdullah Gül suggested that France participate in such a body.

Gül said at the time that other countries, including France, could join the proposed committee of Turkish and Armenian academics to study the allegations.

While Ankara refrained Saturday from issuing a statement condemning the development, senior Turkish officials talking to the TDN said Chirac's remarks were “totally unacceptable” and will likely have a serious impact on economic and political relations between Turkey and France.

On Saturday Chirac, accompanied by his wife Bernadette, attended a solemn ceremony at Armenia's monument to the 1915-1917 massacres of Armenians at the hands of Ottoman Turks. Chirac is on the first ever visit of a French president to the impoverished Caucasus nation, which is at odds with its Turkic neighbors Azerbaijan and Turkey.

Chirac placed flowers at the towering Tsitsernakaberd monument where he was greeted by an honor guard playing mournful music before being taken on a tour of the so-called "Genocide Museum." France, which has 400,000 citizens of Armenian descent, officially recognized the World War I-era events as “genocide” in 2001, putting a strain on its relations with European Union aspirant and fellow NATO member Turkey.

Many countries, including the United States and Israel, have so far refused to label the massacres as genocide. Ankara argues that 300,000 Armenians and at least as many Turks died in an internal conflict sparked by attempts by Armenians to win independence for eastern Anatolia and secure assistance for their bid from Russia -- Turkey's age-old nemesis.

Armenia is also locked in a stalemate with Azerbaijan over the ethnic-Armenian enclave of Nagorno Karabakh, which it gained control of in an early 1990s war but which is still internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan.

I do not think you are crazy. Additionally, Armenians the world over should be focused on helping Armenia develop a home-grown defense industry. Politics change all the time. Turkey may yet turn East after its next elections. Better for Armenia to be strong on its own so when the day comes (and it will) Europe and America will realize what Iran and Russia already do, Armenia has been and still is the shield keeping Turkey at bay.

[gmd]

Actually if all we want are low yield dirty bombs then the stuff from our own reactor will do. For tactial use against front line troops (especially from a less sofisticated army) it would cause significant casualties.

 

With all due respect to Chirac (here is the time and place to note that the French are one of the few nations in Europe that I have respect for) his stance on the Genocide is not a moral issue solely. Europeans are hypocrites! Americans are too, but at least they are honest enough to say why they act the way they act. Recently Europeans adopted the same approach, saying that "yeah, Turkey is not all "that" , but you see we need them".

 

As I said before our interest is having Turkey in Europe taking under consideration strictly political and economical reasons. What bothers me though is how Armenian politicians envision the future of Armenia. I also believe that the action plan for the European peaceful neighborhood policy is a TRAP and it is very likely that Armenia could fall in it. The reasons why Europeans need peace in Caucasus (meaning reinforcement of the status quo in the borders and solution to Artsakh issue) is to provide for peaceful flow of the oil from the Caspian. The promised help to that end from Europe towards Armenia will be in the form of fresh financial aid and some limited investments that hardly will improve drastically the economics of the Republic. The new neighborhood policy will freeze the democratic development in the region and will keep Armenia at the mercy of Russia's gas supplies and the goodwill of Georgian custom officers.

 

The only way OUT of such miserable situation is to show our TEETH, no matter how ugly they are, by developing program for weapons of mass destruction with the help of Diaspora.

 

Call me crazy or whatever but this is the language that Europeans (and in general mankind) understand since the World turns.

[Arpa]

Jacques Chrac has chosen to not run for a third term.

What the media don’t say is that he has expressed his life long dream to move to his Homeland Shirak, aka Gumri.

 

See the rest of the story here;

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17567776/

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MSNBC.com

France's Chirac will not seek third term

French president, in TV address, plans to find new ways to serve his country

BREAKING NEWS

The Associated Press

Updated: 4:55 p.m. ET March 11, 2007

PARIS - As widely expected, French president Jacques Chirac announced Sunday that he will not seek a third term in presidential elections in six weeks. In a televised address, Chirac said he would find new ways to serve his country after leaving office: “Serving France, and serving peace, is what I have committed my whole life to.”

Though he did not say as much, the announcement was an implicit acknowledgment that low popularity, age — he is 74 — and Nicolas Sarkozy, his conservative colleague-cum-rival as hugely ambitious as Chirac once was, have finally overtaken him.

Chirac, admired and scorned during 12 years as president of France, leaves a legacy as mixed and ambiguous as the man himself.

Most on the French right Chirac once dominated and in the party founded for his re-election in 2002 have swung behind Sarkozy before the April-May two-round presidential vote, leaving Chirac with no political base for another run.

Capable of surprise

But Chirac has pulled surprises in the past and he kept France guessing as long as http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17567776/

 

 

[Zartonk]

What the media don’t say is that he has expressed his life long dream to move to his Homeland Shirak, aka Gumri.

 

He will fit right in.

[Takoush]

He will fit right in.

He's undoubtedly a good and a loving man for us all.

 

I just wish the new elect will also be an Armenolover like his predecessor. I'm hoping for that.

 

 

 

Edited March 12, 2007 by Anahid Takouhi