Z'areh Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 (edited) It is time Armenians adopted a new flag that really reflects what Armenia has become. ....White/Blue/Red with some orange in it. Edited April 7, 2006 by Z'areh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 It is time Armenians adopted a new flag that really reflects what Armenia has become. ....White/Blue/Red with some orange in it. I think Blue/White/Red is a better choice. Damn, it's already taken. BTW, I never liked the Armenian flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z'areh Posted April 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 (edited) I think Blue/White/Red is a better choice. Damn, it's already taken. BTW, I never liked the Armenian flag. Q, didn't you hear? The pianos in Armenia's conservatories are being tuned, so they're handing over the Komitas conservatory to Russia to pay for services rendered. Actually I like the colour coordination of the Armenian flag. They are very tasteful, add green to it and you'll be competing with Italian fashion giants. But that's too Islamic. So I'm quite content with the trecolour. Seriously! Edited April 7, 2006 by Z'areh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 (edited) When your weak and small, that's the price you pay for protection. Just like the Mafia world we're surrounded by blood suckers who will yank you left and right. The worst part is that you can't trust either side. They will use you abuse you and discard you as they please. My biggest concern is what will happen when we run out of things to give. Edited April 7, 2006 by Yervant1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSoldier Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 I liked the previous idea of the flag having an apricot colour, preferrably with Ararat in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verginne Posted April 7, 2006 Report Share Posted April 7, 2006 No need to change a thing about the current one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 Q, didn't you hear? The pianos in Armenia's conservatories are being tuned, so they're handing over the Komitas conservatory to Russia to pay for services rendered. Actually I like the colour coordination of the Armenian flag. They are very tasteful, add green to it and you'll be competing with Italian fashion giants. But that's too Islamic. So I'm quite content with the trecolour. Seriously! I thought I answered you, which obviously i did not. I did not knew about this information, but I did understood you meant to say that Armenia was becoming Russia and didn't understood what was your point and wy you were thinking this. BTW, Armenia's flag may have good color matches, I still don't feel it's my flag, when I see it, I consider it to be a 'Tashnakist' representation of the Armenian nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 BTW, Armenia's flag may have good color matches, I still don't feel it's my flag, when I see it, I consider it to be a 'Tashnakist' representation of the Armenian nation. This is why the Armenian nation can't unite. It's only a flag and it's the only one we have now so stand behind it. If every party refused what the other had to offer nothing will be achieved and the nation will stand still. We should embrace good imputs from every party and refuse bad ones, rather than go with party lines and refuse good suggestions just because it's coming from the opposition. BTW I like the tricolour it looks smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 This is why the Armenian nation can't unite. It's only a flag and it's the only one we have now so stand behind it. If every party refused what the other had to offer nothing will be achieved and the nation will stand still. We should embrace good imputs from every party and refuse bad ones, rather than go with party lines and refuse good suggestions just because it's coming from the opposition. BTW I like the tricolour it looks smart. True, but feeling is your flag is a sentiment, while I may agree with you, trying to feel something that is just not there is difficult. When the only time you've seen the flag, you have seen it on the hand of stupid teenagers, you associate that flag unconsciently with this. I can try to feel something, it will be an intellectual trial, my feelings aren't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 True, but feeling is your flag is a sentiment, while I may agree with you, trying to feel something that is just not there is difficult. When the only time you've seen the flag, you have seen it on the hand of stupid teenagers, you associate that flag unconsciently with this. I can try to feel something, it will be an intellectual trial, my feelings aren't there. All I'm saying is you can make it your flag, you don't have to wrap yourself with it. We were once stupid teenagers just like those kids, doing stupid things unless you matured up too fast for your own good. Just relax and enjoy the silly things in life it will prolong your life, who said that when we get older life should be serious at all times? It's good to drop your guards sometimes and enjoy life in it's goofiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 8, 2006 Report Share Posted April 8, 2006 I think that the flag looks fine. It was accepted back in the Cilician days, in 1918, in 1991, and in the recent referendum, so the tricolor should remain unchanged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z'areh Posted April 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 I think that the flag looks fine. It was accepted back in the Cilician days, in 1918, in 1991, and in the recent referendum, so the tricolor should remain unchanged. This Yerakouyn is our flag and I accept it with pride. The tricolour is neither a “tashnakist” flag (symbolically or otherwise) nor is it the problem, the governing of the nation bearing this flag is another issue. I reject the notion being shoved down the throats of Armenians that unless we give everything to Russia (read:lower our pants) we will loose Karabakh and Turkey will attack and so on so forth. People forget that we got to this point in history because of Russian policies towards Armenians in the first place. The issue here is not Turkish persecution of Armenians but Russian imperialism in the Caucasus. From the Tsarist to Lenin’s betrayal of Armenians fast forward to 1988 and you'd realize that a lot of damage would have been averted if the Kremlin had acted what we would have characterized as "proper" political behaviour towards an "ally". You would also realize that there is no such thing as “alliance”, it is simply a hegemony over a weak subject. If we understand that realpolitik dictated that Armenians would have to "vacate" Shahumian, Getashen and Martunashen then why are we so obtuse and refuse to understand that the same realpolitik would prevent Armenian "ownership" of Karabakh in the eyes of today's Kremlin. In 1988 Gorbachev was mentioning Karabakh with it's Armenian name Artsakh in his speeches (to pacify us)yet he was saying and I quote "Karabakh has been attached to Azerbaijan in thousand threads" and soon after Kremlin heavy weight Pugo ordered the emptying of the above mentioned Armenian regions with a lot of casualties. I remember quite vividly a Canadian reporter, from CTV news who happened to be there showing the poor people uprooted from their homelands and simply “dumped” (his words) inside the Armenian border. Russia, who handed Karabakh and Nakhitchevan to the Azeris in the first place, we are told by our leadership that is crucial to our national security. From what we have experienced in the past Russia is part of the problem that threatens our national security. And handing over our industrial assets one after the other simply wets the appetite of our friroeidhfnd (traces of friend can be found in that word) that realizes that we should praise Russia for keeping a sinking friend alive by giving him a tube to breath instead of simply lifting him to safety. Russophiles of our nation would call that a help, I call it pimping. Therefore the pimping of our flag to match what we have become would not be inappropriate. Q, the Komitas conservatory example was just a joke, but the reality of losing all levers of sovereignty is unfortunately very real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melikian Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 This is why the Armenian nation can't unite. It's only a flag and it's the only one we have now so stand behind it. If every party refused what the other had to offer nothing will be achieved and the nation will stand still. We should embrace good imputs from every party and refuse bad ones, rather than go with party lines and refuse good suggestions just because it's coming from the opposition. BTW I like the tricolour it looks smart. Yervant1 I agree the tri colror is fine, let the Armenians unite as one people, this has always been our problem, argue amonst ourselves. Unite Brothers and sisters of Armenia Avak Melikian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 (edited) This is why the Armenian nation can't unite. It's only a flag and it's the only one we have now so stand behind it. If every party refused what the other had to offer nothing will be achieved and the nation will stand still. We should embrace good imputs from every party and refuse bad ones, rather than go with party lines and refuse good suggestions just because it's coming from the opposition. BTW I like the tricolour it looks smart. The flag is just fine. There have been suggestions that a medallion be placed in the middle. Some have suggested a cross, others Ararat, we may even suggest that an outline of Historic Armenia, yet even as is it is just fine. What we need is an educational campaign to recite the colors not Karmir, Kapuyt Narnjakagoogoogaga but Karmir Kapuyt Tsitrani, and in English either Red Blue Apricot, or Red Blue and Gold. The present generation may be beyond salvage but as it will rhyme with Tsapik tsapik tsirani, we start teaching our toddlers to recite; Karmir kapuyt tsirani Im droshn e yerani ! Voske tsiran nmani, Dem mer erkni tsatsani! However, that joke of an anthem got to go! Edited April 9, 2006 by Arpa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 The flag is just fine. There have been suggestions that a medallion be placed in the middle. Some have suggested a cross, others Ararat, we may even suggest that an outline of Historic Armenia, yet even as is it is just fine. What we need is an educational campaign to recite the colors not Karmir, Kapuyt Narnjakagoogoogaga but Karmir Kapuyt Tsitrani, and in English either Red Blue Apricot, or Red Blue and Gold. The present generation may be beyond salvage but as it will rhyme with Tsapik tsapik tsirani, we start teaching our toddlers to recite; Karmit kapuyt tsirani Im droshn e yerani ! Voske tsiran nmani, Dem mer erkni tsatsani! However, that joke of an anthem got to go! Arpa you are the prime minister get our Queen's approval and post it in Hyeforum News (you know the other post). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Did any of us compose words and or music for the new Anthem? CONTEST FOR NATIONAL ANTHEM TO BE ANNOUNCED IN 20 DAYS Panorama.am 18:07 04/05/06 By the decision of the Armenian Prime Minister Andranik Margaryan, a contest committee is established for the selection of the text and music of the national anthem of the Republic of Armenia, headed by the Armenian Minister of Culture and Youth Affairs. A number of prominent state and cultural figures are included in the committee. According to government press services, the committee is assigned to develop the standards for selection and the contest conditions in 15-days time. It is also responsible to select the text and the music in 2-months period. The government decided today to set a prize of 700,000 dram for the text and the music of the national anthem. 2 mln drams are appropriated from the government reserve fund in order to ensure information dissemination and other contest related issues, including remuneration to the author of the anthem. According to government press service, the decision was conditioned by the changes made in the Armenian constitution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Arpa I have a four liner for you. Azad angakh mer Hayrenik Hazar apri mer Takouhin janik Astvats bahi ir take siroun Vor mez da ir khrade imasdoun Now I need help from the rest of you to finnish this anthem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Anverj tariner kayin tagvorner, Aveli darer menq eyinq anter. Goutse zhamn e tagouhou qnqoush, Qan the yerbeq togh lini qich oush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 HAYASTAN By Paruyr Sevak http://armenianpoetry.com/arm/1791.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 Vorkan darabank yev tsav Yerpek tchi tarna mer Takouhin hav Ouni vosgya mazer yev gabouyd atcher Tsayn el nazeli polorin yerker gantcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Anverj tariner kayin tagvorner, Aveli darer menq eyinq anter. Goutse zhamn e tagouhou qnqoush, Qan the yerbeq togh lini qich oush. that's funny and cute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Some of you want to change the traditionnal Armenian tricolore to something new. Georgia did it recently during the revoluation, so I'm sure there'd by no problem to change the flag in Armenia: too. From: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Flag_of_Georgia_(1990-2004).svg/180px-Flag_of_Georgia_(1990-2004).svg.png To: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Flag_of_Georgia.svg/180px-Flag_of_Georgia.svg.png But is it a good idea? What do you propose, and why? Show your ideas by using an image-editing tool, by describing it, or in any other way you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armenak Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Georgia needed it - their black, brown and white color combination was hideous. Plus their new flag looks very EU-friendly, kind of like the English or Swiss flags. I like both our flag and our coat of arms and think they should remain as they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harut Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 this looks like a good flag idea that we can use... http://www.oatesflag.com/Submit/Images/SupplyingArtwork.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yervant1 Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 this looks like a good flag idea that we can use... http://www.oatesflag.com/Submit/Images/SupplyingArtwork.gif Where is the mouse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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