Takoush Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 In all fairness - i think this zurderer doesn't have bad intentions - he's obviously young, and a little misguided perhpas. I'm sure he's questioning his beliefs on matters involving Armenians... a little education and sincerity on our part, and maybe he'll become one of the "enlightened" Turks who finally understand and accept the truth behind the genocide - and become advocates for genocide recognition. That would be my hope - rather than him going to hell. vava; I think you want to play fair with this guy, and it is understandable. However please look back on this thread and you will see that I already got myself involved into having a dialogue with him; yet I was quite civil and understanding with all of my conversations with him. I have not used any deragetory language. Rather, I have told him that I would lend a hand to any befallen or sick turk or any other person that has befallen, and I would act in a humanly fashion to even help a sick man. I also sympathized about the three children who died from the Bird Flu in Turkey. I have conversed with him with complete humility and with civility. However, when arpa came about and said those things (Hayerenov bidi esem ays; yes al arpai esi lav esir) and I said you are funny as I saw arpa's humour and at the same time his frustration. And partly I was also frustrated too. Why the frustration? Because we are devoting too much time, effort, thoughts to one Turkish person; and for what? Think please; is he an important diplomat? Is he a governmental figure? Is he a prominent scholar? The answer to all of these questions is no. Then why are we spending so much effort and our precious time to this Turk who charges at us at times with unintelligent talks and outbursts about our cause for the Armenian Genocide? He has been told repeatedly about it; but I haven't seen much understanding from his part. He is however, a very smart Turk. I say smart, because he is taking up our time and our efforts when as arpa would usually say; "leave those people and don't be bothered as we have better things to do with our time and with ourselves and for our AR. That's why I agreed with arpa; as I found his writing to be both humourous as well as I saw his just frustrations with all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 Anahid jan, yete chat zhamanak es kortsenum ira het, potch@ bats togh yev iran mi pataskhani. It's that easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurderer Posted January 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 I said you are funny as I saw arpa's humour and at the same time his frustration. And partly I was also frustrated too. Why the frustration? Because we are devoting too much time, effort, thoughts to one Turkish person; and for what? Think please; is he an important diplomat? Is he a governmental figure? Is he a prominent scholar? The answer to all of these questions is no. Then why are we spending so much effort and our precious time to this Turk who charges at us at times with unintelligent talks and outbursts about our cause for the Armenian Genocide? I was talking only about an old church, new hospital. didnt I? I did not say anything about genocide. Maybe instead of helping so called poor and unintelligent turks , you should help yourself. none of this stupid turks will think talking about a church means, genocide! but you are right, I am both wasting my and your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takoush Posted January 19, 2006 Report Share Posted January 19, 2006 (edited) I said you are funny as I saw arpa's humour and at the same time his frustration. And partly I was also frustrated too. Why the frustration? Because we are devoting too much time, effort, thoughts to one Turkish person; and for what? Think please; is he an important diplomat? Is he a governmental figure? Is he a prominent scholar? The answer to all of these questions is no. Then why are we spending so much effort and our precious time to this Turk who charges at us at times with unintelligent talks and outbursts about our cause for the Armenian Genocide? I was talking only about an old church, new hospital. didnt I? I did not say anything about genocide. Maybe instead of helping so called poor and unintelligent turks , you should help yourself. none of this stupid turks will think talking about a church means, genocide! but you are right, I am both wasting my and your time. zurderer: I know, you have provided us with pictures and I was glad to see it; but it's not that I don't wish to speak with you without any valid reason. There is a very good reason for it. You see, one of my friends above this thread, his name is Ed touched my heart and soul by using the exact words when he said; "IT HURTS". That's exactly it. It hurts me to speak with you when my own beautiful grandmother and my grandfather at a ripe age were annihilated mercilessly by the turks. It further hurts me and in a most atroceous and an enormeous way knowing that practically my whole wonderful nation was annihilated mercilessly by the then Turkish government, more than 2 million of them; and your government and yourself, yes yourself too, do not wish or want to accept such an atroceous and an enormous act. That's just it; IT HURTS! Please you don't have to answer me on this post as I have no desire to answer you henceforth. But do know that by you not having any comprehension and any understanding of the enormity of the subject matter; IT HURTS ME! Edited January 19, 2006 by Anahid Takouhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yerli Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 zurderer: I know, you have provided us with pictures and I was glad to see it; but it's not that I don't wish to speak with you without any valid reason. There is a very good reason for it. You see, one of my friends above this thread, his name is Ed touched my heart and soul by using the exact words when he said; "IT HURTS". That's exactly it. It hurts me to speak with you when my own beautiful grandmother and my grandfather at a ripe age were annihilated mercilessly by the turks. It further hurts me and in a most atroceous and an enormeous way knowing that practically my whole wonderful nation was annihilated mercilessly by the then Turkish government, more than 2 million of them; and your government and yourself, yes yourself too, do not wish or want to accept such an atroceous and an enormous act. That's just it; IT HURTS! Please you don't have to answer me on this post as I have no desire to answer you henceforth. But do know that by you not having any comprehension and any understanding of the enormity of the subject matter; IT HURTS ME! who counted the number of so called killed armenians... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Yerli, please - it is a documented fact. Even Turkish scholars agree that Armenian population was disseminated during that period. Is killing half a million people any 'better' than killing a million and a half? Your point is moot. So please try and do a minimum of reasearch - or at least read a bit of the background before posting a comment like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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