Anileve Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Some men are disgusting, vile, ***ing scum!!!! They deserve their *&*(* cut off, their balls ripped through their throat until they bleed through their eyeballs!!! When will men stop letting their penile erection cloud their rational thinking, so they can stop killing, causing wars and raping??!!!!! How can these filthy and revolting beasts be classified as men??!!!!! I've learned that one of my brother's friends was raped at a gun point last week. A very sweet girl of 20 was savagely abused by a repulsive swine, a defecation of the lowest scum on earth! She was in her building going home, now she is forever traumatized. And no matter how women can protect themselves there is nothing you can do with a gun to you temple. I am against guns, but at this point I do wish that she owned one to shoot a whole through his rotten scull. How can any living being live with himself after committing such a beastly act towards someone so innocent and helpless? How is this possible?!!!!!! ***ing men, don't they know anything else besides destroying lives?!!! That's right, more action movies, more filthy pornographic music videos screaming about hoes, and glorifying guns! Why is life so unjust? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 (edited) Very sorry to hear it. I completely agree that the guy's body part should be cut off, tarred, rolled around in sharp metal shavings, then shoved up the back end. I know emotions are high now and you are looking at someone to be mad at, but as a man I'll have to tell you that that was NO "man". Almost every man experiences penile erection. A very very small fraction do what that bastard did. The two phenomena are not related (causality wise). Edited December 11, 2004 by Seapahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 She is such a wonderful, intelligent, caring and beautiful girl. What did she ever do to deserve this? I just pray that she is not infected, that would be simply unintelligible. I am just so angry, and I don’t know what to do with my rage. I really can’t understand what can possess a human to commit such a demonic act. For a moment of pleasure, he is willing to destroy someone else’s life, he is getting off on someone’s pain, pleads and cries. How can someone be aroused by inflicting harm on someone so gentle? A friend of mine was raped as a child by his uncle, his sister was sexually abused by their father. What is wrong with the minds of those sick sacks of shit? Are their hands not good enough, they want to simply destroy, nothing else. And then they go to church, preach the commandments, lead a regular life, have families, age and die of natural causes, all the while they leave traces of pain and torture wherever they go. I just can’t understand, can someone explain it to me???!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nané Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 (edited) Hi Eve ... your post really hit a nerve. Couple of days ago, I was asked to interview one of our clients. She handed me a court order, which had put her husband (step-father of her children) in jail. The charge? sexual abuse of her 5 year old daughter. This monster had continuously (over a period of 6 months) sadomized this young, innocent child. And the worst part of it is that SHE (this woman, supposedly a MOTHER) had known all along but had not done shit b/c she did not want to risk losing him. If it was not for the neighbors calling the authorities, this may have gone on for God knows how long. As she sat there, upset at the fact that HE was behind bars ... I felt the blood boiling in my head and my temples popping out. I knew I was about to lose my self-control ... so I stepped away and asked somebody else to help her. But the question I wanted to shout at her is still in my head - HOW DO YOU GO ON LIVING? Edited December 11, 2004 by Sulamita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 I'm at a loss for words. On a side note, at moments like this, I can't help wondering if decriminalising (or whatever) prostitution would take care of a portion of the "problem"... Likely not, as in a significant percentage of rapes, it is more about power and abuse of another individual than the sexual satisfaction. Or at least this is what we're told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 It would be nice to hope that it would stormig - but I don't think that gets to the root of the problem. Liberalizing views on sexuality would be beneficial, but would not eradicate this type of savage behaviour. Probably the whole power/control issue as previously discussed in this thread has more relevance then pure sexual desire, or even sexual frustration. Rapists are sick sick sick people. I get SO upset when I hear of stories like the two above. A good friend of mine was gang-raped at a college frat party by her 'boyfriend' and his buddies. At the time I had wanted to take a bat and bludgeon each one of them until their remnants were all but pulp. Only one went to jail - and only for 2 years. The trial took two years and was very difficult for my friend. I'm not one to condone vigilante justice, but in cases such as these, I may be inclined to question my views.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Stories like this drives me nuts! Source: article on cbc.ca) Web Posted | Apr 7, 2000 12:00:00 AM Father charged in bus driver beating Montreal - A father who took the law into his own hands appeared in court in Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, south of Montreal, on Friday. He was charged with two counts of assault. He's accused of beating up a school bus driver. The male driver is accused of sexually molesting children, including the man's eldest son. To protect the son's identity, the father's name cannot be published. The father faces charges of aggravated assault and assault with a weapon. He says he doesn't regret his actions. He says he had no choice after his 13-year-old son was molested along with two other boys. The crown prosecutor, Eric Simard, says he understands the public is behind the father, but he says that doesn't make what he did right. The father could be sentenced to a maximum of 24 years in prison. He say's he would do it again. He says any other father would, too. I think in the end, I think the father got 10 years in prison. The molester, only 3. I'll have to fact-check - I vaguely remember hearing about it in the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Oh man!!! The guy was a repeat offender!!! Web Posted | Mar 23, 2000 12:00:00 AM Driver Charged with Assault had record Montreal - A school bus driver in St-Jean-sur-Richelieu, south of Montreal, is charged with assaulting three children, aged 7 to 13. Mario Many, 45, faces seven counts of sexually molesting children who rode his school bus. Many had previously served two jail terms for eight convictions of gross indecency and sexual aggression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamavor Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Pretty disgusting indeed! I’ve tried few rape cases, one of which was really nasty. But as a general rule I’m very ‘cautious’, because there are rape cases and “rape” cases. One of my clients was sixteen years old boy, one of those guys that we commonly call nerds. His parents were semi-rich people running successful middle size business. A twenty-two years old bitch, living in the same neighborhood decided that maybe she can make some “easy” money by seducing the guy and milk the family. So, she found some lame excuse to go to their apartment while his parents were at work and they had sex. An hour later she called the police and filed a police report that she has been raped. Police came and detained the poor guy. While the preliminary investigation was in process the guy spent 35 days in the jail. To make long story short, the bitch was so stupid that she admitted that he ‘raped’ her while she was on top of him. She was 178cm.height, 68 kg weight, pretty muscular and he was 162cm., 54 kg. No knifes, no guns, no weapons involved, she just claimed that he physically forced her to have sex! The unfortunate thing was that this was this guy’s first sexual experience and after being freed from detention, he spent 2 weeks in mental institution. Although he was fully recuperated it will be a scar that will stay for long time and let’s hope that it wont affect his sexual orientation. I have had few ‘funny’ once, but they are not for the public! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Hi Eve ... your post really hit a nerve. Couple of days ago, I was asked to interview one of our clients. She handed me a court order, which had put her husband (step-father of her children) in jail. The charge? sexual abuse of her 5 year old daughter. This monster had continuously (over a period of 6 months) sadomized this young, innocent child. And the worst part of it is that SHE (this woman, supposedly a MOTHER) had known all along but had not done shit b/c she did not want to risk losing him. If it was not for the neighbors calling the authorities, this may have gone on for God knows how long. As she sat there, upset at the fact that HE was behind bars ... I felt the blood boiling in my head and my temples popping out. I knew I was about to lose my self-control ... so I stepped away and asked somebody else to help her. But the question I wanted to shout at her is still in my head - HOW DO YOU GO ON LIVING? style_images/master/snapback.png I am shocked by this. I can't believe that some women are soooooo stupid. I honestly believe that she needs to be put in jail also for what she could've prevented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dianjan Posted December 11, 2004 Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Anileve, I am very very sorry to hear that. Life unfortunately isn't fair, and often the innocent and the good get hurt. I hope that she will be able to get passed this, even though I know how difficult it will be? Do you know if the rapist been caught? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2004 Stories like this drives me nuts! Source: article on cbc.ca) I think in the end, I think the father got 10 years in prison. The molester, only 3. I'll have to fact-check - I vaguely remember hearing about it in the news. style_images/master/snapback.png I will never understand how drug users receive a longer sentence than rapists. That's why I decided long ago that Law is not for me. Too many laws don't make any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Very shocking and outrageous. Sorry to hear about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 (edited) I'm at a loss for words. On a side note, at moments like this, I can't help wondering if decriminalising (or whatever) prostitution would take care of a portion of the "problem"... Likely not, as in a significant percentage of rapes, it is more about power and abuse of another individual than the sexual satisfaction. Or at least this is what we're told. style_images/master/snapback.png I know it's insane but I've thought about what I would do in a situation like that. I know you are so scared that you can't rationally think. I also feel that they are psychologically ill. I often thought what if you were to react calm and inviting, these predators feed on pain, intimidation and power trips, what if you were to show them that you don't mind and you would remain very calm. Would they become disinterested? After all it's no longer a power trip if your victim seems to be not scared of you. A friend of mine was once cornered by a thug who pulled out a knife and demanded money and her jewelry. She was very calm and went straight for her wallet to hand it to him, but meanwhile she was talking to him and asking him if he is in a financial difficulty and needs money to help him out and she would be glad to find him a job if he needs money. She didn't hesitate to give him her money. The guy was so overwhelmed that he put his knife away, gave her all of the stuff back and walked her home, and poured his soul out. We were all so shocked to hear the story. My friend is an amazingly social person, she has this incredible charm that makes people so comfortable around her. What if people are seeking human interest? What if they just need someone not to scold them and hurt them but to express care? Edited December 12, 2004 by Anileve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 (edited) Pretty disgusting indeed! I’ve tried few rape cases, one of which was really nasty. But as a general rule I’m very ‘cautious’, because there are rape cases and “rape” cases. One of my clients was sixteen years old boy, one of those guys that we commonly call nerds. His parents were semi-rich people running successful middle size business. A twenty-two years old bitch, living in the same neighborhood decided that maybe she can make some “easy” money by seducing the guy and milk the family. So, she found some lame excuse to go to their apartment while his parents were at work and they had sex. An hour later she called the police and filed a police report that she has been raped. Police came and detained the poor guy. While the preliminary investigation was in process the guy spent 35 days in the jail. style_images/master/snapback.png People like that make me sick. Crying wolf diminishes the intensity of rape cases. Gamavor, I really don't know how you manage. Thanks to everyone who expressed compassion. And Aneta jan, I would also react the same way as you did. I can't stand blind and adamant ignorance. Edited December 12, 2004 by Anileve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Why couldn't I have been born in a rich family and lived next door to greedy b!tches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Sorry to hear about that Ani I wouldn't have a clue what to do in a situation like that, but I have considered the staying calm method. Not sure if it would work though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Sorry to hear about that Ani I wouldn't have a clue what to do in a situation like that, but I have considered the staying calm method. Not sure if it would work though... style_images/master/snapback.png See the thing is I always wonder if medical science took the time to investigate the minds of these people. Were studies conducted on what is the best approach in this situation or how to handle it? Everyone is so quick to lock up criminals. There are several suggestions as to how to be careful or defend yourself, but no matter how one is careful or if she knows self-defense there is little you can do at a gun point. Actually I remember a long time ago a case around my neighborhood where a woman was pulled into the bushes and was about to be raped. Well she didn't submit easily, she beat the guy with her purse and started screaming on top of her lungs, that scared him and he ran off limping. She must have been black. They don't take crap from anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 (edited) I know it's kind of stupid of me to sit here and presume what possibly can go through the mind of a young girl when she is held at gun point like that ... but I do have a feeling I would never give into the wishes of someone holding a gun to my face. I really don't think someone looking to rape or mug will kill ... not unless they really have no other choice. So I personally don't think being approached like that at gun point or otherwise makes much difference ... the gun is merely an intimidation tool and the chances of it being used to inflict harm is not too big I don't think. Edit: Unless you're dealing with someone who's going to kill you anyway after raping you ... or kill you then rape you. Well in either of those cases, I think putting up a fight is better than not taking any chances and just giving in. Edited December 12, 2004 by Seapahn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 It just hit me. A few days ago I saw a really bizarre dream. I was on a bus with my classmates going to a university to take our final. One girl who was sitting in front of me started crying when we left the bus. When I asked her why was she crying she told me that she fell asleep, and when she woke up she was naked next to the guy who was sitting with her on the bus. She said that she doesn’t know what happened to her. I was also sitting next to a guy who was a brother of the guy in front. As I was napping he also undressed me and tried to have an intercourse with me, I stopped him and put my clothes back on. But when I heard what the girl had said, I grew furious with the brothers and started screaming in rage calling them filthy, vile creatures who take advantage of girls when they are asleep and vulnerable. Can this dream be a coincidence or a prediction? This was 2 days ago, and it’s not the first time I see something which is distantly related to the events that occur in the future. It’s very disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Edit: Unless you're dealing with someone who's going to kill you anyway after raping you ... or kill you then rape you. Well in either of those cases, I think putting up a fight is better than not taking any chances and just giving in. style_images/master/snapback.png You don't believe in fighting, you believe in walking away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 You don't believe in fighting, you believe in walking away. style_images/master/snapback.png Definitely ... if the choice was there. But sometimes we don't have that choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 I'm generally all for criminals right, and against physical "mistreatment," but I think with those bastards, castration is the long term most safer way. Their action is what I call a psychological murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted December 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 (edited) I'm generally all for criminals right, and against physical "mistreatment," but I think with those bastards, castration is the long term most safer way. Their action is what I call a psychological murder. style_images/master/snapback.png Precisely! But if that method would be applied I am afraid that in vengefulness they may start targeting other men. However, castration does sound tempting in that case. Edited December 12, 2004 by Anileve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominO123 Posted December 12, 2004 Report Share Posted December 12, 2004 Precisely! But if that method would be applied I am afraid that in vengefulness they may start targeting other men. However, castration does sound tempting in that case. style_images/master/snapback.png I don't see it like this... I see castration as a treatment... for me, the raper is sick, and when he can not be treated with medications, castration is the only treatment left. It may be a radical treatment, but in some cases, it's the only treatment left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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