MJ

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ 13.09.01Ã. гÕáñ¹³·ñáõÃÛáõÝ Ù³ÙáõÉÇ Ñ³Ù³ñ ²ØÜ-áõÙ ÐÐ ¹»ëå³Ý ².ÎÇñ³ÏáëÛ³ÝÁ ê³Ý üñ³ÝóÇëÏáÛáõÙ ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ 7-9-Á ê³Ý üñ³ÝóÇëÏáÛáõÙ ¿ñ ·ïÝíáõÙ ²ØÜ-áõÙ ÐÐ ¹»ëå³Ý ²ñÙ³Ý ÎÇñ³ÏáëÛ³ÝÁª îÇ·ñ³Ý âáõ˳çÛ³ÝÇ §²ñß³Ï ´¦ ûå»ñ³ÛÇ Ñ»ÕÇݳϳÛÇÝ ëϽµÝ³·ñÇ åñ»ÙÇ»ñ³ÛÇÝ Ù³ëݳÏó»Éáõ Ýå³ï³Ïáí: ºÉáõÛà áõݻݳÉáí ê³Ý-üñ³ÝóÇëÏáÛÇ ØÇç³½·³ÛÇÝ Ñ³ñ³µ»ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ ËáñÑñ¹áõÙ, ¹»ëå³Ý ÎÇñ³ÏáëÛ³ÝÝ Áݹ·Í»É ¿ 2001Ã-ÇÝ ÝßíáÕ »ñÏáõ ϳñ¨áñ ïáݳϳï³ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñǪ ²ÝϳËáõÃÛ³Ý ï³ëݳÙÛ³ÏÇ ¨ øñÇëïáÝ»áõÃÛáõÝÝ áñå»ë å»ï³Ï³Ý ÏñáÝ Ñéã³ÏÙ³Ý 1700-³ÙÛ³ÏÇ å³ïÙ³Ï³Ý Ï³ñ¨áñáõÃÛáõÝÁ, ÇÝãå»ë ݳ¨ Ý»ñϳ۳ó»É ÐÐ Çß˳ÝáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ ù³Õ³ù³Ï³ÝáõÃÛáõÝÁª ïÝï»ë³Ï³Ý ³×Ç ËóÝÙ³Ý, »ñÏñáõÙ ÅáÕáíñ¹³í³ñ³Ï³Ý ¨ ïÝï»ë³Ï³Ý µ³ñ»÷áËáõÙÝ»ñÇ ·áñÍÁÝóóÇ ¨ ÈÔ Ñ³Ï³Ù³ñïáõÃÛ³Ý Ë³Õ³Õ Ï³ñ·³íáñÙ³Ý Ñ³ñóáõÙ: Èáõ·³ÝëÏáõÙ ûÍí»ó ¨ ï»Õ³¹ñí»ó ѳÛÏ³Ï³Ý »Ï»Õ»óáõ ÑÇÙݳù³ñÁ ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ 8-ÇÝ Èáõ·³ÝëÏáõÙ ï»ÕÇ ¿ áõÝ»ó»É Ñ³Û Ñ³Ù³ÛÝùÇ ÏáÕÙÇó ³Û¹ ù³Õ³ùáõ٠ϳéáõóí»ÉÇù ѳÛÏ³Ï³Ý »Ï»Õ»óáõ ÑÇÙݳù³ñÇ ûÍÙ³Ý ¨ ï»Õ³¹ñÙ³Ý Ñ³Ý¹Çë³íáñ ³ñ³ñáÕáõÃÛáõÝÁ, áñÁ ÝíÇñí³Í ¿ñ г۳ëï³ÝáõÙ øñÇëïáÝáõÃÛ³Ý å»ï³Ï³Ý ÏñáÝ Ñéã³ÏÙ³Ý 1700-³ÙÛ³ÏÇÝ: гݹÇëáõÃÛ³ÝÁ Ý»ñϳ ¿ÇÝ àõÏñ³ÇݳÛáõÙ ÐÐ ³ñï³Ï³ñ· ¨ Édz½áñ ¹»ëå³Ý Ðñ³ãÇÏ êÇÉí³ÝÛ³ÝÁ, Ù³ñ½Ç ¨ ù³Õ³ùÇ í³ñã³Ï³½Ù»ñÇ, ï»ÕÇ ·Çï³-Ùß³ÏáõóÛÇÝ, ÏñÃáõÃÛ³Ý µÝ³·³í³éÝ»ñÇ, ³ß˳ï³íáñ³Ï³Ý ɳÛÝ ½³Ý·í³ÍÝ»ñÇ, Ñá·¨áñ³Ï³Ý ßñç³ÝÝ»ñÇ, ¼ÈØ-Ý»ñÇ ¨ Ñ³Û Ñ³Ù³ÛÝùÝ»ñÇ µ³½Ù³ÃÇí Ý»ñϳ۳óáõóÇãÝ»ñ: ÐÇÙݳù³ñÇ ûÍÙ³Ý ³ñ³ñáÕáõÃÛáõÝÁ ϳï³ñ»É ¿ Ð³Û ²é³ù»É³Ï³Ý »Ï»Õ»óáõ àõÏñ³ÇݳÛÇ Ã»ÙÇ ³é³çÝáñ¹ ²ñù»åÇëÏáåáë ñÇ·áñÇë ´áõÝdzÃÛ³ÝÁ: ì»ñç:

STATEMENT BY H.E. VARTAN OSKANIAN MINISTER OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS ON THE TERRORIST ATTACKS IN THE USA September 12, 2001 It is with deep shock and grief that we express our condolences to the people and the government of the United States of America. Yesterday, President Kocharian relayed his and the Armenian people's sympathies to President Bush. The United States and the American people have been good friends of Armenia and Armenians and we are grieved that a tragedy of such horrendous proportions has befallen them. Of course, the implications of the tragedy do not stop with the United States. They impact the entire world community. We consider this an attack not only against the US but against all peace-loving, democratic peoples everywhere. We are all shaken by the arrogance and brazenness which has led to so much destruction. Nothing - nothing -justifies such wanton disregard for human life. We strongly condemn this act of terror. However, we are convinced that the scope and scale of this horrific act can serve to create solidarity among civilized nations against all violent expression of political and social aspirations. Acts of terror, for any purpose, of any kind, sacrifice the cause they purport to support. We are convinced that the city which welcomed the huddled masses shall soon find itself breathing free from fear. We are also sure the United States of America and its capital will recover, overcome and continue to be at the forefront of global leadership. End.

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ ÐÐ ²ðî²øÆÜ àð̺ðÆ Ü²Ê²ð²ð ì²ð¸²Ü úêβÜÚ²ÜÆ Ð²Úî²ð²ðàôÂÚàôÜÀ ²ØÜ-àôØ Æð²Î²Ü²òì²Ì ²Ð²´ºÎâàôÂÚ²Ü Î²ä²ÎòàôÂڲش 12 ë»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ, 2001Ã. Ø»Ýù ËáñÁ ÏëÏÇÍáí Ù»ñ ëñï³·ÇÝ ó³í³ÏóáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÝ »Ýù ѳÛïÝáõÙ ØdzóÛ³É Ü³Ñ³Ý·Ý»ñÇ ÅáÕáíñ¹ÇÝ áõ ϳé³í³ñáõÃÛ³ÝÁ: ºñ»Ï ݳ˳·³Ñ øáã³ñÛ³ÝÝ Çñ ¨ Ñ³Û ÅáÕáíñ¹Ç ½áñ³ÏóáõÃÛáõÝÁ ѳÛïÝ»ó ݳ˳·³Ñ ´áõßÇÝ: ØdzóÛ³É Ü³Ñ³Ý·Ý»ñÝ áõ ³Ù»ñÇÏÛ³Ý ÅáÕáíáõñ¹Á г۳ëï³ÝÇ áõ Ñ³Û ÅáÕáíñ¹Ç µ³ñ»Ï³ÙÝ »Ý »Õ»É, ¨ Ù»Ýù ó³íáõÙ »Ýù, áñ ³Ù»ñÇÏÛ³Ý ÅáÕáíáõñ¹Á ÝÙ³Ý áÕµ»ñ·áõÃÛáõÝ ¿ ³åñáõÙ: ÆѳñÏ», áÕµ»ñ·áõÃÛáõÝÁ ãÇ ë³Ñٳݳ÷³ÏíáõÙ ÙdzÛÝ ØdzóÛ³É Ü³Ñ³Ý·Ý»ñáí. Ýñ³ ³½¹»óáõÃÛáõÝÁ ÏñáõÙ ¿ áÕç ÙÇç³½·³ÛÇÝ Ñ³ÝñáõÃÛáõÝÁ: Ø»Ýù ë³ Ñ³ñÓ³ÏáõÙ »Ýù ¹ÇïáõÙ áã ÙdzÛÝ ²ØÜ-Ç ¹»Ù, ³ÛÉ Áݹ¹»Ù áÕç ˳ճճë»ñ áõ ÅáÕáíñ¹³í³ñ ÅáÕáíáõñ¹Ý»ñÇ ³ÙµáÕç ³ß˳ñÑáõÙ: Ø»Ýù óÝóí³Í »Ýù ³ÛÝ Ñ³Ý¹·ÝáõÃÛáõÝÇó, áñ ѳݷ»óñ»É ¿ ÝÙ³Ý ³í»ñ³ÍáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ: àãÇÝã, áã ÙÇ µ³Ý ãÇ ³ñ¹³ñ³óÝáõÙ Ù³ñ¹Ï³ÛÇÝ ÏÛ³ÝùÇ Ñ³Ý¹»å ÝÙ³Ý Ï³Ù³Û³Ï³Ý í»ñ³µ»ñÙáõÝùÁ: Ø»Ýù Ëëïáñ»Ý ¹³ï³å³ñïáõÙ »Ýù ³Ûë ³Ñ³µ»ñÏãáõÃÛáõÝÁ: ²ÛÝáõѳݹ»ñÓ, Ù»Ýù ѳÙá½í³Í »Ýù, áñ ³Ûë ë³ñë³÷»ÉÇ ·áñÍáÕáõÃÛ³Ý áõÅÝ áõ ͳí³ÉÁ ÏëïÇåÇ µáÉáñ ù³Õ³ù³ÏÇñà ³½·»ñÇÝ Ñ³Ù³ËÙµí»Éáõ ¨ ѳٳӳÛÝáõÃÛ³Ý ·³Éáõª Áݹ¹»Ù ù³Õ³ù³Ï³Ý áõ ëáóÇ³É³Ï³Ý ÝÏñïáõÙÝ»ñÇó µËáÕ µéÝáõÃÛ³Ý ³ñï³Ñ³ÛïáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ: ²Ñ³µ»Ïã³Ï³Ý ·áñÍáÕáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÁ, ÇÝã ï»ë³ÏÇ ¿É ÉÇÝ»Ý, ¨ ÇÝã Ýå³ï³Ï ¿É Ñ»ï³åݹ»Ý, ѳñí³ÍÇ ï³Ï »Ý ¹ÝáõÙ ¨ ³ñÅ»½ñÏáõÙ Ñ»Ýó ³ÛÝ Ýå³ï³ÏÁ, ÇÝãÇÝ Ó·ïáõÙ »Ý: Ø»Ýù ѳÙá½í³Í »Ýù, áñ ÜÛáõ ÚáñùÁª ³ÛÝ ù³Õ³ùÁ, áñÁ ¹³ñ³ëϽµÇÝ ³å³ëï³Ý ¿ ¹³ñÓ»É µéÝáõÃÛáõÝÇó ÷³Ë³ÍÝ»ñÇÝ, ßáõïáí ÇÝùÁ ÏÓ»ñµ³½³ïíÇ í³ËÇ ½·³óáõÙÇó: Ø»Ýù ݳ¨ íëï³Ñ »Ýù, áñ ØdzóÛ³É Ü³Ñ³Ý·Ý»ñÁ ¨ Ýñ³ Ù³Ûñ³ù³Õ³ùÁ ßáõïáí ÏѳÕóѳñÇ ³Ûë ÷áñÓáõÃÛáõÝÁ ¨ Ïß³ñáõݳÏÇ Ñ³Ù³ß˳ñѳÛÇÝ Ñ³ÝñáõÃÛ³Ý ³é³çÇÝ ß³ñù»ñáõÙ ù³ÛÉ»É: ì»ñç:

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ Ð³Õáñ¹³·ñáõÃÛáõÝ Ù³ÙáõÉÇ Ñ³Ù³ñ 12 ë»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ, 2001Ã. ÐÐ ³ñï·áñÍݳ˳ñ³ñÝ ÁݹáõÝ»ó ²ïɳÝïÛ³Ý ¹³ßݳ·ñÇ ³ëáódzódzÛÇ å³ïíÇñ³ÏáõÃÛ³ÝÁ ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ 12-ÇÝ ÐÐ ² ݳ˳ñ³ñ úëϳÝÛ³ÝÝ ÁݹáõÝ»ó ²ïɳÝïÛ³Ý ¹³ßݳ·ñÇ ³ëáódzódzÛÇ (²¸²) å³ïíÇñ³ÏáõÃÛ³ÝÁª ݳ˳·³Ñ ²É³Ý ÈÇ àõÇÉdzÙëÇ ·É˳íáñáõÃÛ³Ùµ: гݹÇåÙ³Ý ÁÝóóùáõÙ ùÝݳñÏí»óÇÝ ²¸²-Ç Ýå³ï³ÏÝ»ñÁ ¨ Ýñ³Ýó ѳٳ·áñͳÏóáõÃÛ³Ý Ñ»é³ÝϳñÝ»ñÁ гÛÏ³Ï³Ý ³ïɳÝïÛ³Ý ³ëáódzódzÛÇ Ñ»ï: Üßí»ó, áñ ѳٳ·áñͳÏóáõÃÛáõÝÁ »ñÏáõ ϳéáõÛóÝ»ñÇ ÙÇç¨ ³ñ¹»Ý ³Ùáõñ ÑÇÙù»ñÇ íñ³ ¿ ¹ñí³Í ¨ ³ÏÝϳÉíáõÙ ¿ ³ÛÝ ³é³í»É ÁݹɳÛݻɪ Áݹ·ñÏ»Éáí íëï³ÑáõÃÛ³Ý Ñ³ëï³ï³Ù³ÝÝ áõ ³Ùñ³åݹٳÝÝ áõÕÕí³Í Íñ³·ñ»ñ: ܳ˳ñ³ñ úëϳÝÛ³ÝÁ ϳñ¨áñ»ó áã ϳé³í³ñ³Ï³Ý ³Ûë ϳ½Ù³Ï»ñåáõÃÛ³Ý ·áñÍáõÝ»áõÃÛáõÝÁ ¨ áÕçáõÝ»ó ѳÝñáõÃÛ³ÝÝ Çñ»Ýó ³ß˳ï³ÝùÝ»ñÇÝ áõ Ýå³ï³ÏÝ»ñÇÝ Çñ³½»Ï»ÉáõÝ áõÕÕí³Í Ýñ³Ýó Íñ³·ñ»ñÁ, ѳïϳå»ëª Ýñ³Ýóáõ٠ѳÛÏ³Ï³Ý ³ëáódzódzÛÇ Ù³ëݳÏóáõÃÛáõÝÁ: ì»ñç:

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ Ð³Õáñ¹³·ñáõÃÛáõÝ Ù³ÙáõÉÇ Ñ³Ù³ñ 12 ë»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ, 2001Ã. ÐÐ ² ݳ˳ñ³ñ úëϳÝÛ³ÝÝ ÁݹáõÝ»ó ÆÆÐ ³é¨ïñÇ Ý³Ë³ñ³ñÇÝ ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ 12-ÇÝ ÐÐ ³ñï·áñÍݳ˳ñ³ñ ì³ñ¹³Ý úëϳÝÛ³ÝÝ ÁݹáõÝ»ó г۳ëï³ÝáõÙ ³ß˳ï³Ýù³ÛÇÝ ³Ûóáí ·ÝïíáÕ Æñ³ÝÇ ÆëÉ³Ù³Ï³Ý Ð³Ýñ³å»ïáõÃÛ³Ý ³é¨ïñÇ Ý³Ë³ñ³ñ ØáѳÙÙ³¹ Þ³ñdzÃÙ³¹³ñÇÇÝ: гݹÇåÙ³Ý Å³Ù³Ý³Ï »ñÏáõëï»ù ϳñ¨áñí»óÇÝ Ð³Û³ëï³Ý-Æñ³Ý ѳñ³µ»ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÁª áñå»ë ϳñ¨áñ ·áñÍáÝ ï³ñ³Í³ßñç³Ýáõ٠ϳÛáõÝáõÃÛ³Ý ¨ Ë³Õ³Õ ·áÛ³ÏóáõÃÛ³Ý ³å³ÑáíÙ³Ý Ñ³Ù³ñ: ÆÆÐ ³é¨ïñÇ Ý³Ë³ñ³ñÇ ³ÛóÁ Ýå³ï³Ï áõÝÇ ùÝݳñÏ»Éáõ »ñÏáõ »ñÏñÝ»ñÇ ÙÇç¨ ³é¨ïñ³ïÝï»ë³Ï³Ý ѳñ³µ»ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ ½³ñ·³óÙ³Ý Ñ»é³ÝϳñÝ»ñÁ, ³Û¹ Ãíáõ٠ݳ¨ª ³éϳ ËݹÇñÝ»ñÇ ÉáõÍÙ³Ý Ñݳñ³íáñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÁ: γñ¨áñ Ý߳ݳÏáõÃÛáõÝ ¿ ïñíáõÙ Æñ³Ý-г۳ëï³Ý ·³½³ÙáõÕÇ ¨ ø³ç³ñ³ÝÇ ÃáõÝ»ÉÇ Ï³éáõóÙ³ÝÁ, áñáÝù Éñ³óáõóÇã ËÃ³Ý ÏѳݹÇë³Ý³Ý ïÝï»ë³Ï³Ý ѳñ³µ»ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ ³ÏïÇí³óÙ³Ý Ñ³Ù³ñ: äñÝ. Þ³ñdzÃÙ³¹³ñÇÝ Çñ ÏáÕÙÇó Ýß»ó, áñ Æñ³ÝÁ г۳ëï³ÝÁ ¹ÇïáõÙ ¿ áñå»ë É³í³·áõÛÝ áõÕǪ ºíñáå³ÛÇ áõ èáõë³ëï³ÝÇ Ñ»ï ѳÕáñ¹³ÏóÙ³Ý Ñ³Ù³ñ: ²Û¹ ï»ë³Ï»ïÇó Ù»Í Ý߳ݳÏáõÃÛáõÝ ¿ ïñíáõÙ »ñÏáõ »ñÏñÝ»ñÇ ÙÇç¨ ³é¨ïñ³ïÝï»ë³Ï³Ý ϳå»ñÇ Ñ»ï³·³ ³Ùñ³åݹٳÝÁ: ì»ñç:

Dear Ali, I sort of disagree with the premise of your resentment. There are two totally different issues as far as the Armeno-Turkish issues are concerned. One os the Genocide, and the other one is the land. They are not related to each other whatsoever. I think conditioning the issue of the recognition of the Genocide to the giving up of the land aspirations of Armenians is a faulty attempt if we are discussing the iisue as a principle, however as a matter of “realpolitk” I can understand it. The recognition and the condemnation of the Genocide has to be Turkey’s internal problem, first of all - for the sake of the self-cleansing of the Turkish society and the Turkish people from the hideous crime. Let’s assume for a moment that the fact of the recognition may imply certain undesirable for Turkey consequences. I think the people of Turkey would shine under a better light if they first recognize the fact of the Genocide and express their remorse, and than they fight against the consequences, whatever they may be. I think making the recognition and the condemnation contingent upon the elimination of the consequences in advance is equivalent of denial. It is also understandable that the statements originating from the Armenian side about Turks’ migration to Mongolia are under the best scenario manifestation of some pathological hysteria and lack of common sense judgment. I would also like to add that if from the Armenian side the aspirations tied to the Sevres treaty are just a testimony of incompetence by in large, and perhaps criminal misleading propaganda by some marginal Armenian “political” organizations, the dissipation of which in my view would be in Armenia’s best interests. From the Turkish side, however, these are testimony of well thought-out policy of denial and justification of the Genocide. I am claiming this not because I find deficit of emotions in my heart for what might’ve justifiably (with some exceptions) belonged to the Armenian nation, but because of the absence of an iota of reality. Even in 1919, right after Turkey’s acceptance of the Sevres Treaty, there has been zero reality for its implementation – there were no adequate numbers of Armenians left on the territory of what once could call Western part of historic Armenia, to enforce Armenian sovereignty on such territory. The prime-minister of the Republic of Armenia at the time has claimed that even if we bring the entire Armenian nation together, line up them on the proposed borders, we cannot even cover the border. In a way, the Sevres Treaty without te subsequent support of its enforcers (Europeans have abandoned us as always, and the American Senate has rejected an American Mandate to Armenia despite the request from the President Wilson), hasserved as a pretext for the subsequent slaughter of the remaining Armenians of Eastern Anatolia and Cilicia. While I don’t think that in the real political context history has much to do, and who has lived on which lands for what period of time is of much relevance, I fail to understand from the scientific point of view the basis of your statements on Armenians having invaded the whatever lands from somebody else. What is the basis of such argument? I also would like to bring to your attention that the era 1200-700 BC is considered to be the last stage of formation of the Armenian nation as a national entity. This doesn’t imply that prior to that Armenians have resided somewhere else, but the complicated national evolutionary processes have finally shaped out this nation in that era. The only party which can advance territorial claims to Turkey is the Republic of Armenia, which has not done it. I don’t see any real basis for anything associated with Sevres. Even if it would become a reality by some magic, there would be a lot of sober Aremenian which would oppose to it by any means available to them with the understanding that the enforcement of Sevres would be a disaster for Armenia. Let me make this claim more explicitly – the annexation of the territories of Western Armenia to the Republic of Armenia is not in Armenia’s interests, but in Armenia’s enemies’ interests. However, as an Armenian individual, I would like to stand up and claim that yes, the Republic of Armenia has, or better to say, should have (maybe not as a matter of fact but as a matter of legitimacy) territorial claims to the Republic of Turkey. This has nothing to do with the Genocide nor with Severs. I would also like to emphasize that I am speaking here according to my own logic, and I have no indications nor information that the Government of the Republic of Armenia indeed has a decision to pursue such claims. With all this, my claim doesn’t imply that I see a reality of materialization of the claims that I have emphasized above, but I have an expectations of the Turkish side recognizing the legitimacy of these claims and searching with us for acceptable to both sides solutions. I would also like to get your feedback as why shouldn’t we have territorial or other claims from the Republic of Turkey. Thanks for your understanding.

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ 12.09.01Ã. êïáñ¨ Ý»ñϳ۳óÝáõÙ »Ýù ²ØÜ-áõÙ ÐÐ ¹»ëå³ÝáõÃÛáõÝÇó ëï³óí³Í ßï³å ï»Õ»Ï³ïíáõÃÛáõÝÁ: ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ 11-Ç ³é³íáïÛ³Ý ÜÛáõ ÚáñùáõÙ ¨ ì³ßÇÝ·ïáÝáõÙ ï»ÕÇ áõÝ»ó³Í ³Ñ³µ»Ïã³Ï³Ý ·áñÍáÕáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ ½áÑ »Ý ¹³ñÓ»É Ñ³½³ñ³íáñ ³ÝÙ»Õ Ù³ñ¹ÇÏ: ²ØÜ-áõÙ ÐÐ ¹»ëå³ÝáõÃÛáõÝÁ, áñÇ ³ß˳ï³ÝùÁ ß³ñáõݳÏíáõÙ ¿ ²ØÜ Ù³Ûñ³ù³Õ³ùáõ٠ѳÛï³ñ³ñí³Í ³ñï³Ï³ñ· Çñ³íÇ׳ÏÇ å³ÛÙ³ÝÝ»ñáõÙ, ÷áñÓáõÙ ¿ å³ñ½»Éª »Õ»É »Ý ³ñ¹Ûáù ïáõųÍÝ»ñÇ Ù»ç г۳ëï³ÝÇ ù³Õ³ù³óÇÝ»ñ: ²Ûë å³ÑÇÝ ³ÝÑݳñÇÝ ¿ áñ¨¿ ï»Õ»Ï³ïíáõÃÛáõÝ ëï³Ý³É ÜÛáõ ÚáñùÇ Ð³Ù³ß˳ñѳÛÇÝ ³é¨ïñÇ Ï»ÝïñáÝáõ٠ϳ٠¹ñ³ ßáõñçÁ ½áÑí³Í Ù³ñ¹Ï³Ýó í»ñ³µ»ñÛ³É: ØÇ³Å³Ù³Ý³Ï Ñ³ÛïÝáõÙ »Ýù, áñ ¹»ëå³ÝáõÃÛáõÝÁ Ñ»é³Ëáëáí ϳåí»É ¿ American Airlines ¨ United Airlines ÁÝÏ»ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ Ñ»ï, áñáÝó å³ïϳÝáÕ »ñÏáõ³Ï³Ý ÇÝùݳÃÇé û·ï³·áñÍí»É »Ý ³Ñ³µ»ÏÇãÝ»ñÇ ÏáÕÙÇó á×ñ³·áñÍáõÃÛáõÝÝ Çñ³·áñÍ»Éáõ ѳٳñ: United Airlines –Ç Ý»ñϳ۳óáõóÇãÁ ѳÛïÝ»ó, áñ ݳËÝ³Ï³Ý ïíÛ³ÉÝ»ñÇ Ñ³Ù³Ó³ÛÝ, г۳ëï³ÝÇ ù³Õ³ù³óÇÝ»ñ ïáõųÍÝ»ñÇ ó³ÝÏáõÙ ãϳÝ: American Airlines -Ç ³ß˳ï³ÏÇóÁ ãϳñáÕ³ó³í Ñëï³Ï ï»Õ»ÏáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñ ѳÕáñ¹»É Ù»½ Ñ»ï³ùñùñáÕ Ñ³ñóÇ í»ñ³µ»ñÛ³É, Ýß»Éáí, áñ Ýñ³Ýó ѳñϳíáñ »Ý Ñݳñ³íáñ ½áÑ»ñÇ ïíÛ³ÉÝ»ñÁ: àõëïÇ ³é³ç³ñÏáõÙ »Ýù ²Ü Ñݳñ³íáñ ¹ÇÙáõÙÝ»ñÇ ¹»åùáõÙ ¹»ëå³ÝáõÃÛ³ÝÁ ѳÕáñ¹»É ÐÐ ³ÛÝ ù³Õ³ù³óÇÝ»ñÇ ïíÛ³ÉÝ»ñÁ, áñáÝù »Ýó¹ñ³µ³ñ ϳñáÕ ¿ÇÝ ·ïÝí»É American Airlines 11(´áëïáÝ-Èáë ²Ýç»É»ë), American Airlines 77 (ì³ßÇÝ·ïáÝ-Èáë ²Ýç»É»É»ë), United Airlines 93 (ÜÛáõ Úáñù-ê³Ý üñ³ÝóÇëÏá), United Airlines 175 (´áëïáÝ-Èáë ²Ýç»É»ë) »ñÃáõÕÇÝ»ñÇ ÇÝùݳÃÇéÝ»ñÇ Ù»çª Ýñ³Ýó ׳ϳﳷÇñÁ å³ñ½»Éáõ Ýå³ï³Ïáí: ì»ñç:

Dear Edward, I have found more common sense in your other postings. Sorry.

Cities/towns in the Republic of Armenia, though not in any particular order, except North to South: 1. Akhurian, Gyumri, Vank, Stepanavan, Alaverdi, Noyemberian, Dilidjan, Idjevan 2. Artik, Talin, Hankavan, Hrazdan, Dzaghkadzor, Sevan, Krasnoselsk, Gavar, 3. Arzni, Byurakan, Ashrtarak, Echmiadzin, Hoktemberian, Yerevan, Geghard, Garni, Vardenis, Martuni 4. Eghegnadzor, Sisian, Vedi, Artashat 5. Goris, Kapan, Meghri, Kadjaran Maybe others may add more.

Thank you for the tips, Ali.

quote:Originally posted by MosJan: "I have never considered this process to be a political one, and though some people will not agree with me, it is rather a spiritual problem," the ambassador said. © Copyright AZG Which means that he needs some basic education and injection of common sense to understand the meaning of the word "spiritual," if nothing else.

As always in history, in the future too the weakening of Georgia or Armenia would imply weakening for the other one.

The official statement is that the United States has nothing to do with them.

In the opinion of some formerly high level officials of the US, an action of this scale could've not been prepared and carried on without a state level support of some country.

No. So far, no one has claimed responsibility. Osama Bi-Ladin is believed to be behind it, but it is only a speculation at this time. [ September 11, 2001: Message edited by: MJ ]

Not yet. Maybe no one even will explicitly claim it ever...

This time towards the Research Triangle. Another large commercial plane has crashed 80 miles south of Pitsburg. All the airplanes that are in the eir are being gounded at the nearest airports.

I don't know if it is ironic or tragic, all the flights throughout the US are grounded due to the terrorist acts committed today in New York and Washington. Seems like a concerted effort to use the civilian air fleet to inflic demage to the American symbolic constructions. The World Trade Center is in flames, the tope 40 flors of one of the two buildings has collapsed, there is similar explosion near the Pentago building, and so one. Now, talk about the anti-missile defense ...

Dear Ali, I have a flight in few hours, and canot address the issues raised by you in the previous material. Will be back in few days, and will try to give my feedback.

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ Ð²Ôàð¸²ðàôÂÚàôÜ Ø²ØàôÈÆ Ð²Ø²ð 11 ë»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ, 2001Ã. гí³ï³ñÙ³·ñ»ñÇ ÏñÏÝûñÇݳÏÝ»ñÇ Ñ³ÝÓÝáõÙ ÐÐ ³ñï·áñÍݳ˳ñ³ñÇÝ ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇ 11-ÇÝ ÐÐ ³ñï·áñÍݳ˳ñ³ñ ì. úëϳÝÛ³ÝÇÝ Çñ ѳí³ï³ñÙ³·ñ»ñÇ ÏñÏÝûñÇݳÏÝ»ñÁ ѳÝÓÝ»ó Æëñ³Û»ÉÇ å»ïáõÃÛ³Ý Ýáñ³Ý߳ݳÏ, ³ñï³Ï³ñ· ¨ Édz½áñ ¹»ëå³Ý ïÏÝ. èÇíϳ ÎáÑ»ÝÁ /Ýëï³í³ÛñÁª µÇÉÇëÇ/: ÞÝáñѳíáñ»Éáí Ýáñ³Ýß³Ý³Ï ¹»ëå³ÝÇÝ å³ßïáÝÁ ëï³ÝÓÝ»Éáõ ϳå³ÏóáõÃÛ³Ùµ, åñÝ. úëϳÝÛ³ÝÁ ÑáõÛë ѳÛïÝ»ó, áñ ³Ûë Ý߳ݳÏáõÙÁ ¨ë ÏÝå³ëïÇ Ñ³Û-Çëñ³Û»É³Ï³Ý ѳñ³µ»ñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ Ñ»ï³·³ ½³ñ·³óÙ³ÝÁ: îÏÝ. ÎáÑ»ÝÁ Çñ Ñ»ñÃÇÝ å³ïñ³ëï³Ï³ÙáõÃÛáõÝ Ñ³ÛïÝ»ó Ñ»ï³Ùáõï ÉÇÝ»É Ý³ËÏÇÝ ¹»ëå³ÝÇ Ð³Û³ëï³ÝáõÙ í³ñ³Í ³ñ·³ë³µ»ñ ·áñÍáõÝ»áõÃÛ³ÝÁ: гݹÇåÙ³Ý ÁÝóóùáõÙ ÷á˳¹³ñÓ³µ³ñ Ý»ñϳ۳óí»óÇÝ í»ñçÇÝ ½³ñ·³óáõÙÝ»ñÁ Çëñ³Û»É³å³Õ»ëïÇÝÛ³Ý ¨ È»éݳÛÇÝ Ô³ñ³µ³ÕÇ Ñ³Ï³Ù³ñïáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ Ï³ñ·³íáñÙ³Ý ·áñÍÁÝóóÝ»ñáõÙ: ì»ñç:

Hadji, As much as I can see, the only person wining here is you. I have asked you to leave this thread alone to its original subject. Just leave it alone.

Good night.

²Ü вê²ð²Î²ÚÜàôÂÚ²Ü Ðºî в𲴺ðàôÂÚàôÜܺðÆ ì²ðâàôÂÚàôÜ Ð²Ôàð¸²ðàôÂÚàôÜ Ø²ØàôÈÆ Ð²Ø²ð 10.09.2001 ÐÐ ³ñï·áñÍݳ˳ñ³ñ úëϳÝÛ³ÝÝ ÁݹáõÝ»ó ºÊÊì ݳ˳·³Ñ Éáñ¹ è³ë»É æáÝëÃáÝÇÝ ê»åï»Ùµ»ñÇÙ 10-ÇÝ ÐÐ ³ñï·áñÍݳ˳ñ³ñ ì³ñ¹³Ý úëϳÝÛ³ÝÝ ÁݹáõÝ»ó ³ß˳ï³Ýù³ÛÇÝ ³Ûóáí ºñ¨³ÝáõÙ ·ïÝíáÕ ºíñáå³ÛÇ ËáñÑñ¹Ç ËáñÑñ¹³ñ³Ý³Ï³Ý í»Ñ³ÅáÕáíÇ Ý³Ë³·³Ñ Éáñ¹ è³ë»É æáÝëÃáÝÇÝ ¨ Ýñ³Ý áõÕ»ÏóáÕ, ºÊ ËáñÑñ¹³ñ³Ý³Ï³Ý í»Ñ³ÅáÕáíÇ ÙáÝÇÃáñÇÝ·Ç Ñ³ÝÓݳÅáÕáíÇ ù³ñïáõÕ³ñ ïÇÏ. ì³É»ñÇ øɳٻñÇÝ: гݹÇåÙ³Ý ÁÝóóùáõÙ ùÝݳñÏí»ó ºíñáå³ÛÇ ËáñÑñ¹ÇÝ ³Ý¹³Ù³Ïó»ÉÇë г۳ëï³ÝÇ ëï³ÝÓÝ³Í å³ñï³íáñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ Ï³ï³ñÙ³Ý ÁÝóóùÁª ß»ßïÁ ¹Ý»Éáí Çñ³í³Ï³Ý ¨ ë³Ñٳݳ¹ñ³Ï³Ý µ³ñ»÷áËáõÙÝ»ñÇ íñ³: Èáñ¹ è³ë»É æáÝëÃáÝÇ Ëݹñ³Ýùáí, ݳ˳ñ³ñ úëϳÝÛ³ÝÁ Ý»ñϳ۳óñ»ó È»éݳÛÇÝ Ô³ñ³µ³ÕÇ Ñ³Ï³Ù³ñïáõÃÛ³Ý Ë³Õ³Õ Ï³ñ·³íáñÙ³Ý Ý»ñϳ ·áñÍÁÝóóÁ ¨ ¹ñ³ ½³ñ·³óÙ³Ý Ñ»é³ÝϳñÝ»ñÁ: ²Û¹ ³éáõÙáí ùÝݳñÏí»ó ݳ¨ ÈÔ-áõÙ í»ñç»ñë ï»ÕÇ áõÝ»ó³Í ï»Õ³Ï³Ý ÇÝùݳϳé³í³ñÙ³Ý Ù³ñÙÇÝÝ»ñÇ ÁÝïñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ Ñ³ñóÁ: Èáñ¹ æáÝëÃáÝÁ Ýß»ó, áñ ÁÝïñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÇ Ï³å³ÏóáõÃÛ³Ùµ ºÊ-Ç Õ»Ï³í³ñáõÃÛ³Ý Ñ³Ûï³ñ³ñáõÃÛáõÝÁ ×Çßï ã¿ñ ·Ý³Ñ³ïáõÙ Çñ³íÇ׳ÏÁ ¨ Ýßí³Í ÁÝïñáõÃÛáõÝÝ»ñÁ ã»Ý ϳñáÕ áñ¨¿ µ³ó³ë³Ï³Ý ³½¹»óáõÃÛáõÝ áõÝ»Ý³É Ñ³Ï³Ù³ñïáõÃÛ³Ý Ï³ñ·³íáñÙ³Ý Ë³Õ³Õ ·áñÍÁÝóóÇ íñ³: ì»ñç:

Armenian azerbaijani forum? Didn't know there is such a thing. In fact I think the Armeno-Azerbaijani relatoins are not ripe for dialog, yet, as much as I would like to see it.

Dear Ali, Thanks for the comment. How unfortunate to witness this type of dynamics in our discussions, isn't it?