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Since I activated the web based spam protection with a request to block the suspicious email, I am experiencing much relief. Thanks for all suggestions.

Assuming that this thread is supposed to look seriously at serious issues, one can contemplate that from a long-term perspective the developments around the potential participation of Turkish forces in Iraq are headed in an overwhelmingly positive direction for the nations of the region. Obviously, the new and changing realities necessarily lead to a conceptual and actual readjustment of Turkey's presumed role in the region. It is going to become increasingly obvious that putting too much stock on Turkey leads nowhere and her significance is going to only further diminish in the region from a geopolitical perspective. It would not be a far fetched assumption to claim that things are developing towards a very desirable and expected outcome.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WEATHER/11/07/usa....reut/index.html

The South Caucasus: After Elections 2003 Richard Giragosian, Abt Associates Inc. Cory Welt, CSIS Russia and Eurasia Program Russia and Eurasia Program Caucasus Election Watch Series Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:00 - 3:30 P.M. B1-B With Georgia’s parliamentary elections, the 2003 electoral races in the South Caucasus have ended. Earlier presidential contests in Armenia and Azerbaijan and the parliamentary contest in Armenia fell seriously short of democratic standards, perpetuating popular dissatisfaction with the ruling regimes. The November 2 elections in Georgia were chaotic and marred by multiple and egregious violations. Preliminary results suggest, however, that opposition parties will still capture a majority of parliamentary seats, as long as the government does not now resort to massive fraud. Even if Georgian parliamentary elections bring a new government to power, its leaders will still have to contend with the same problems that face Armenia and Azerbaijan. Political contests in all three countries have provided little indication of how ruling regimes intend to improve their countries’ economic and social development. All four electoral contests have also occurred in the shadow of a shifting geopolitical context. In 2003, the United States and Europe continued to struggle to define their interests in the region and design appropriate strategies of engagement. At the same time, Russia announced an ambitious new project: the pursuit of a “liberal empire” which, for the South Caucasus, signifies an attempt to re-establish an integrated energy system. Throughout 2003, the CSIS Russia and Eurasia Program’s Caucasus Initiative has provided pre- and post-electoral analysis of the South Caucasus’ political contests. We invite you now to join two of the contributors to our Election Watch series for a discussion of Georgian parliamentary elections and the uncertain post-election future of all three South Caucasian states. Richard Giragosian is a Washington-based analyst and regular contributor to RFE/RL and the London-based Jane's Information Group. Cory Welt is a Visiting Fellow in the CSIS Russia and Eurasia Program. RSVP To Liz Zentos: Fax (202) 775-3199, Email Lzentos@csis.org, Tel (202) 775-3133 I WILL ATTEND THE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12, 2003, FROM 2:00 - 3:30 P.M. Name: __________________________________________________________________ Title: ___________________________________________________________________ Organization: _____________________________________________________________

I use Outlook, Azat. Will probably follow your advice when I can commit focus to the subject again.

I see what you are saying.

But that way, they would never know that I don't want their email and will keep me in their mailing list, right? At this time, unless I misunderstand something, with what I have at my disposal, I feel better enhancing my webmail address book one at a time. Thanks for the help.

I see what you mean. But it doesn't block the unwanted email but rather sends it to a specified folder under the best case scenario. Am I right?

Unfortunately, I cannot do it. I have had this account for about 8-10 years and too many old friends with whom I don't regularly correspond have this email address. I didn't know Microsoft Outlook had filters. How do I set it up? Thanks in advance.

Unfortunately, that doesn't work for me either. I am using one ISP provider but am trying to block emails sent to my account provided by another ISP provider. And the installation process doesn't go through. But I have blocked everyone who is not in my webmail address book, and since my last message I have not gotten ay spam email. But given that my address book is too incomplete, I might've also blocked some "legitimate" senders. So, I guess, I need to add my normal senders to my webmail address book on one-by-one basis.

Not much benefit for a long time to come. It is obvious by now that the government of Turkey doesn't see much benefit for Turkey from the lifting of the blockade. I keep hearing from "informed sources" that it will be lifted in "two months," "six months," etc. Each time it turns to be just a conversation, which means that Turkey does not see urgency in the matter for herself. Now, given that the transportation tariffs imposed on Armenia are quite high, i.e. there is already "established market," even if Turkey lifts the blockade, I don't see any reason why would Turkey impose less tariffs than Georgia - there are no competitive forces to push the price down. Perhaps the cost of imports into Armenia from Turkey would go somewhat down, assuming no significant customs duty. But I still don't see any reason for Turkey to do it so far as she does not need significant output from the Armenian economy, which I don't see for many years to come. It is possible that there may be some targeted and focused mutual economic developments, which would not be bad, either. But I don't see anything significant to gain from it in the big picture of things. However, there is an important political gain from the opening of the borders, assuming that Armenia can enhance further the presumed political axis. Otherwise, I think there is too much hype in this issue.

Thanks Domino, but no success. It doesn't finish the installation process due to the inability to recognize my ISP provider. Let me play with it, Vava. I guess in a day or two I'll have enough information to judge about it.

I use PC-cillin for anti-virus, but it doesn't deal with spam.

No. I mean the large numbers of "very attractive" electronic proposals to improve my physiological and financial future.

Could someone recommend a good anti-spam software? Freeware fowuld be disirable. Thanks.

Thanks for the tip, Steve.

Steve, I think the reason of having several talks in Armenian is that the speakers are not fluent in English. According to the document above, they are from Armenia. I cannt see any other reason. As to the materials of interest to you, I recommend that you contact Richard H. I can give you his info if you decide to do so.

Contact: Professor R.G. Hovannisian University of California, Los Angeles 90095-1473 NEW JULFA CONFERENCE AT UCLA AND GLENDALE NOVEMBER 14-16, 2003 Los Angeles: The 400th anniversary of the founding of the historic Armenian community of New Julfa or Nor Jugha in Iran will be marked with a three-day conference sponsored by the Armenian Educational Foundation Chair in Modern Armenian History at the University of California, Los Angeles. Chair Holder and conference organizer Professor Richard Hovannisian has invited specialists from Armenia, Iran, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates, Belgium, Germany, Great Britain, Spain, and various institutions in the United States to explore the history, art and architecture, religious administrative, and social structures, international trade and commerce, crafts and professions, Iranian-Armenian and European-Armenian interchanges, language and dialect, folklore and literature, and the current state of the community. An unprecedented number of scholars from Armenia will participate in this, the thirteenth in the UCLA series on Historic Armenian Cities and Provinces. Three of seven will speak during the opening session in Armenian on Friday evening, November 14, starting at 7:30 p.m. in the Glendale Presbyterian Church at 125 South Louise Street at Harvard Street. Hrachik Mirzoyan, Murad Hasratyan, and Jemma Barnasyan will speak on the New Julfa historical phenomenon, architecture, and dialect. They will be joined by Very Reverend Shahan Sarkissian, the primate of New Julfa, who will give an overview of the diocese today. The Armenian Society of Los Angeles (Iranahay Miutiun) is a co-sponsor of the conference and will offer a short cultural program during the Friday evening session. Other sponsors of the conference are the UCLA International Institute, G.E. von Grunebaum Center for Near Eastern Studies, and the Center for European and Eurasian Studies. The Saturday and Sunday sessions, November 15-16, will be held on the UCLA campus in Young Hall, Court of Sciences 50. The Saturday sessions are from 10 a.m. to 5:30 p.m. and will be entirely in English. They include noted art historians, cultural historians, and specialists in the wide-ranging commercial activities of the New Julfa merchants—from Yerevan, Shushanik Khachikyan (Lazarian Trade Company) and Raisa Amirbekyan (Armenian-Iranian Cultural Relations); from Malaga, Spain, John Carswell (New Julfa, Past and Present); from Manchester, Edmund Herzig (New Julfa and the East India Company) and from Oxford, Amy Landau (Arakel Tavrizhetsi); from Brussels, Sayeh Laporte-Eftekharian (Western Iconographic Models); from the United States, Richard Hovannisian (Historical Overview), Ina Baghdiantz McCabe (Armenians in Safavid Iran), Vazken Ghougassian (Social and Administrative Structures), Sylvie Merian (New Julfa Manuscripts), Sebouh Aslanian (Indian Ocean Julfan Merchants and English Prize Laws), and Vartan Matiossian (Connections to Spain and South America). The Sunday sessions will begin at 1:30 in the afternoon in Young Hall at UCLA. The first afternoon session will be in Armenian—from Yerevan, Artsvi Bakhchinyan (New Julfa Merchants and Northern Europe), and Ashot Stepanyan (Daily Life Styles in the 17th-18th Centuries); from Aachen Germany, Armen Hakhnazarian (New Julfa Architecture and Vandalism in Old Julfa). The second Sunday afternoon session will be in English—from Kuwait, Archbishop Goriun Babian (Western Models of Wall-Paintings); and from the United States, Bert Vaux (New Julfa Dialect), Anahid Keshishian (Everyday Life in Song and Verse), and Leonardo Alishan (Sumbat’s Paintings and Leonardo’s Poetry). All sessions are without charge and open to the public. UCLA parking on Saturday and Sunday is in Parking Structure No. 2, Entrance at Hilgard at Westholme Avenues (between Sunset Boulevard and Le Conte Avenue) The UCLA campus map may be accessed on the web at www.ucla.edu/map and the conference program may be viewed at www.UCLAArmenian.org. PART OF FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS IN ARMENIAN FONTS Friday, November 14, 2003, Glendale Presbyterian Church 7:30-10:00 p.m. Çï³ÅáÕáíÇ ´³óáõÙ. Üáñ æáõÕ³--âáñë ¸³ñ èÇã³ñ¹ . ÚáíѳÝݿ뻳Ý, ø³ÉÇýáñÝdzÛÇ Ð³Ù³Éë³ñ³Ý, Èáë ²Ý×»ÉÁë (UCLA) New Julfa—Four Centuries Richard G. Hovannisian, University of California, Los Angeles Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ ü»ÝáÙ»ÝÇ ä³ïÙ³-öÇÉÇëá÷³Û³Ï³Ý ì»ñÉáõÍáõû³Ý öáñÓ Ðñ³ãÇÏ ØÇñ½áÛ»³Ý, ºñ»õ³ÝÇ ä»ï³Ï³Ý гٳÉë³ñ³Ý A Historical-Philosophical Analysis of the New Julfa Phenomenon Hrachik Mirzoyan, Erevan State University Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ Ð³ÛÏ³Ï³Ý ºÏ»Õ»óÇÝ»ñÇ ²é³ÝÓݳ۳ïÏáõÃÇõÝÝ»ñÁ Øáõñ³¹ гëñ³Ã»³Ý, ²ñáõ»ëïÇ ÆÝëïÇïáõï, ºñ»õ³Ý The Distinct Architectural Characteristics of the Armenian Churches of New Julfa Murad Hasratyan, Institute of the Arts, Erevan Æð²Ü²Ð²Ú ØÆàôÂÆôÜ—ØÞ²Îàô²ÚÆÜ Ú²Úî²Æð IRANAHAY MIUTIUN/ARMENIAN SOCIETY—CULTURAL PROGRAM Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ ´³ñµ³éÁ Áëï Ðñ³ã»³Û ²×³é»³ÝÇ §øÝÝáõÃÇõÝ Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ ´³ñµ³éǦ ²ß˳ïáõû³Ý æ»ÙÙ³ ´³éݳ뻳Ý, ²×³é»³ÝÇ ³Ýáõ³Ý È»½áõ³µ³Ý³Ï³Ý ÆÝëïÇïáõï, ºñ»õ³Ý The New Julfa Dialect According to Hrachia Acharyan's "Study of the New Julfa Dialect" Jemma Barnasyan, Acharyan Linguistic Institute, Erevan Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ »õ гñ³õ³ÛÇÝ ä³ñëϳëï³ÝÇ Â»ÙÇ Ü»ñÏ³Û Æñ³íÇ׳ÏÁ Þ³Ñ³Ý ì³ñ¹³å»ï ê³ñ•Ç뻳Ý, ²é³çÝáñ¹, êå³Ñ³Ý-Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ Ð³Ûáó »ÙÇ The Present State of the Armenian Diocese of New Julfa and Southern Iran Shahan Vardapet Sarkissian, Primate, New Julfa Saturday, November 15, 2003 Young Hall, CS 50, UCLA Campus, 10 a.m.-5:30 p.m. Sessions in English 10:00-1:00 The New Julfa Saga Richard Hovannisian, UCLA New Julfa, Past and Present John Carswell, Malaga, Spain The Armenian Diaspora in Safavid Iran: Conversion, Acculturation, and Resistance Ina Baghdiantz McCabe, Tufts University The Social and Internal Administrative Structure of New Julfa in the 17th Century Vazken Ghougassian, Armenian Church Eastern Prelacy, New York INTERMISSION Arakel Davrizhetsi and Safavid Aesthetics Amy Landau, Oxford University Seventeenth Century Manuscripts of New Julfa: Reflections of a Cosmopolitan Society Sylvie Merian, Pierpont Morgan Library, New York City Circulation and Use of Prints with Religious Subjects in Safavid Persia: The New Julfa Case Sâyeh Laporte-Eftekharian, Université Libre de Bruxelles LUNCH INTERMISSION 2:00-5:30 P.M. Relations between the New Julfa Merchants and the English East India Company Reconsidered Edmund Herzig, University of Manchester The Lazarian Trade Company According to Harutiun Lazarian's Ledger and Correspondence Shushanik Khachikyan, Mashtots Matenadaran, Erevan The Discovery of a Treasure Trove of New Julfa Mercantile Letters Sebouh Aslanian, Columbia University INTERMISSION New Julfa as an Armenian-Iranian Cultural Contact Zone in the Period of Qajar Rule Raisa Amirbekyan, Caucasian Center for Iranian Studies, Erevan A Far West Story: From New Julfa to Spain and South America Vartan Matiossian, Universidad del Salvador, Buenos Aires, and Hovnanian School of New Jersey Discussion Sunday, November 16, 1:30-5:30 P.M. ²é³çÇÝ ÜÇëïÁ̀ гۻñ¿Ýáí First Session in Armenian ÐÇõëÇë³ÛÇÝ ºõñáå³Ý »õ Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ Ð³Û ²é»õïñ³Ï³ÝÝ»ñÁ ²ñÍáõÇ ´³ËãÇÝ»³Ý, ºñ»õ³Ý Northern Europe and the Armenian Merchants of New Julfa Artsvi Bakhchinyan, Erevan Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ Î»Ýó³Õ³ÛÇÝ Øß³ÏáÛÃÁ, 17-18 ¸³ñ»ñ--²ñÑ»ëﳕáñÍáõÃÇõÝ ²ßáï êï»÷³Ý»³Ý, ²ñ»õ»É³•Çïáõû³Ý ÆÝëïÇïáõï, ºñ»õ³Ý The Life-Style Culture of New Julfa during the 17th-18th Centuries: Arts and Crafts Ashot Stepanyan, Institute of Oriental Studies, Erevan Üáñ æáõÕ³ÛÇ Ö³ñï³ñ³å»ïáõÃÇõÝÁ ²ñÙ¿Ý Ð³Ëݳ½³ñ»³Ý, Ð³Û Ö³ñï³ñ³å»ïáõÃÇõÝÝ àõëáõÙݳëÇñáÕ Î³½Ù³Ï»ñåáõÃÇõÝ, ²³Ë»Ý, »ñÙ³Ýdz The Architecture of New Julfa Armen Hakhnazarian, Research on Armenian Architecture, Aachen, Germany INTERMISSION Second Session in English Western Models for the Wall Paintings of Holy Savior's Cathedral and St. Bethlehem Church Archbishop Goriun Babian, Prelate, Kuwait and United Arab Emirates, and Former Prelate, New Julfa The Armenian Dialect of New Julfa Bert Vaux, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee The Depictions of Everyday Life in Song and Verse of the New Julfa Region Anahid Keshishian, University of California, Los Angeles Images of New Julfa: Sumbat's Paintings and Some Remembrances Leonardo Alishan, University of Utah Discussion Photographic Exhibit by Richard and Anne Elizabeth Elbrecht, Davis, California EDIT: Could the Moderators fix the title of the thread, please? Thanks in advance.

I know of Nobu but haven't eaten there. But now that I walk your footsteps, I'll get there sometime in the future... But one place I am not going to follow you is going to be during the upcoming elections. BTW, [for 5 people] you have gotten a good deal at Nobu.

I think this is worth seeing: http://www.unisondesign.com/

Hudson River Park

Capitol Hill Park Monument

Capitol Hill

Thanks for the tip.

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