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AZERBAIJAN REJECTS OSCE MG PROPOSALS A senior official of the Azeri president administration said the official Baku rejected the new proposals, brought by the OSCE Minsk group peace brokers. The official, Novruz Mamedov, head of foreign relations department at Aliyev’s staff, said the new proposals did not differ from the previous ones, which had been discussed in Paris and Key West. “We regard the role of Armenia in the peace process as non-constructive and comprehend this all as incorrect assessment of the realities,” he said.

GROUP CALLS NOT TO GIVE UP LIBERATED TERRITORIES “The new OSCE Minsk group proposals foresee a five-year long independence for Nagorno Karabagh and return of the liberated territories to Azerbaijan,” members of a public organization, called Protection of Liberated Territories, announced on Friday. Academicians Rafael Ghazarian and Lenser Aghalovian, were trying to convince, without disclosing the source of top secret information, that granting Karabagh a five-year independence would mean its gradual surrender to Azerbaijan. They claimed that Armenian leadership has agreed with this regulation option, including return of the, as they said, liberated territories. The two men went on to claim that the reluctance to inhabit these territories with new people was its proof. Then they accused the authorities of making a swap deal with Azerbaijan, according to which Armenia will provide Azerbaijan a corridor through Meghri with its exclave Nakhichevan in return for Lachin corridor, connecting Karabagh with Armenia. They said the corridor through Meghri will join Turkey with Azerbaijan and the former will turn into a new regional superpower. “We shall not give even an inch of land to Azerbaijan,” they said. This was not followed by a more constructive proposal. It was not either clear why the two respected men convened a news conference, citing the latest Minsk group proposals. © Copyright AZG

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This is not nice !!! Yekeq verch tanq iys muk'n u katvi xarin barekamner...

To MJjan and Juggernautjan lets end this, it's not duing any good for us... Movses

We have decided to reopen this topic... i would like to ask all of you to be kind to each other, and respect if you will. It is important that we treat everyone in a polite and respectful manner. MOvses

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ARMENIAN STATE CHAMBER ENSEMBLE LEAVES FOR USA The Armenian state chamber ensemble, led by its conductor Aram Gharabekian is leaving for the USA on Tuesday after giving a series of concerts in Cyprus, Greece, Great Britain, Lebanon and Switzerland, as well as in Nagorno Karabagh and Armenia. The first concert will be given in New York in Lincoln Center. Speaking to reporters on Monday Aram Gharabekian said the tours to Lebanon and Great Britain were great success. The Lebanese tour was sponsored by the Armenian General Benevolent Union (AGBU). The invitation to Great Britain came from the organizers of a traditional festival of chamber music in Canterbury. One of the reviews in the local press said that the concerts of the Armenian ensemble was greeted by a storm of applause. One of the concerts was dedicated to the 17 centuries of Armenia’s conversion to Christianity. © Copyright AZG

WEEK OF BRITISH FILMS OPENED IN YEREVAN The Week of British Films, organized by the British Council, an organization that promotes development of cultural and educational relations among world's nations, opened November 4 in Armenian capital Yerevan. The British Council established its Armenia office in 2001 June, but will start formally operating in 2001 April. Speaking at a news conference today Joe Bakowski, chairman of Armenia-Georgia British Council said the Council's aim is to secure presentation of full information about British cultural organizations and their services, to help young artists on both sides to get to better know each other through providing exchange and training programs and raise the quality of English teaching in Armenia. Their Highnesses The Duke and Duchess of Gloucester, who are visiting Armenia, were also present at the opening of the Week of the British Films. © Copyright AZG

ARMENIAN EXHIBITION HELD IN HOLLAND Within the framework of the 1700th anniversary of Armenia's adoption of Christianity, an exhibition, displaying rare samples from the Armenian History Museum, Matenadaran and St. Echmiadzin Museum of Treasures, opened in two different cities of the Netherlands, Leidn and Utrecht, November 4. More than 100 different manuscripts, Armenian historical-cultural exhibits, samples of church art were displayed. The exhibition will be on till March 3, 2002. © Copyright AZG

NEW FACTS ABOUT ARMENIAN MONUMENTS IN TURKEY As our readers remember at the Yerevan session of PACE culture, education and science committee that took place recently it was once again stressed then the Council of Europe condemns any encroachment on cultural-historical values of any nation. At the session Turkish and Azeri representatives tried to prove that such facts are not registered in their countries. Turkish envoy Karkam Husein announced that Turkey does not destroy any Armenian cultural value deliberately, as far as the country’s law condemns such acts. Is it really so? Let’s put aside emotional approaches and present the mere facts. According to UNESCO 1974 data out of 913 Armenian historical buildings that survived 1915 genocide 464 were fully destroyed, 252 were ruined and 197 needed quick repair works. In recent years statistical data about the situation of Armenian religious monuments and churches in the territory of Turkey are received not as detailed. Many scientists, architects, historians, reporters, photographers and simply tourists who visited Turkey in recent years made many publications, issued books and made researches on this theme, based on which we gather the clear image of the situation. The data given by the above-mentioned people show that most part of 3200 monuments are destroyed. During decades only 100 churches and chapels were researched well. The research of the rest of cultural-historical values is difficult in the eastern provinces of Turkey because of special military regime in the provinces introduced since 1987. The regime forbids visits to Armenian historical-cultural monuments. William Tarlimple, reporter of the Independent, made such an announcement recently: ‘Turkish or any foreign scientist is not encouraged to make researches in Armenian settlements or write about the history of Armenia. A British archeologist (who, like all the others whom I talked to, asked me not to publicize his name) told me the following: ‘It is impossible to investigate any place where Armenians lived in past. I tried to get a permit to make excavations in an ex-Armenian settlement, but it was useless. And if you try to make research without a permit you will be persecuted’. There are many facts to prove that such things really happen. For example a French historian Tiery was detained in 1975 for trying to draw the blue print of an Armenian church near Van. He was cruelly ‘questioned’ at the jail for three days, and only after that was let free and had to escape from Turkey’ (William Talrimple, ‘From the holy mountain’, HarperCollins Publishing House, London, 1997, page 85’. A French Armenologist (expert in Armenian Studies) who researched ‘Turkish’ churches, said the following to Doctor Steven Kamachian: ‘Turks took care of my living expanses, paid for my excavation works- but as long as I was finding things that they wanted, and with a term that I should announce that this or that is a Turkish church, not Armenian. Se la vi… (Tokt, Steven Kamachian, ‘Ani’s Turkish churches, Azdak Armenian weekly online, 28 February, 2001). Lebanon-Armenian Levon Tashchian gives the following evidence: ‘In September 1998 I visited Western Armenia, and was touring in Mush, when in front of a villager’s house I saw an Armenian holy sculpture which has a shape of plate, and where Armenian children were being baptized. It served as a place where the cattle was drinking water from. I hardly noticed it when villagers and policeman surrounded me, took my photo- camera, smashed it into pieces and made me leave the village’. Turkish mass media itself writes about the destruction of Armenian monuments. Cumhuriyet writes that St. Virgin church of Kesaria is turned into a disco bar, Radical is worried about Diarbekir’s Armenian church, which is fully ruined, ‘Towards year 2000’ weekly informed that holy sculptures and paintings are destroyed in St. Cross church of Aghtamar and Yeni Yuzyil alarmed about privatization of St. Mary church, and the plans of its destruction and turning its place into a market. Of course it is very difficult to present the full situation of Armenian monuments on Turkish territory. Now many of them are located in such places where people are not allowed to go. Under such conditions to get facts about Armenian historical-cultural monuments that are on Turkish territory is very difficult. Nevertheless Azdak tried to give as precise information about the situation as possible- issuing a special appendix about the issue. By Sergey Galoyan © Copyright AZG

JCA TO OFFICIALLY OPEN 2002 SPRING The Armenian-British-Swiss Jewelry Company of Armenia (JCA) will open officially in Yerevan in spring, 2002. It will open with the assistance of the Diamond Company of Armenia (DCA), the head of which Gagik Abrahamian said that construction of the company had started 8 months ago, and about $1 mln was invested in it in that period of time. He said some 130 future employees were learning now jeweler's art on the already furnished ground floor. According to him, their number will be doubled during the upcoming 1-2 months. Abrahamian said that the documents of the new jewelry company with 1,000 vacancies will be ready one of these days. While in DCA, which has about $80-$100 mln annual volume of sale, 500 people work with wages of about $300. The head of the JCA Swiss-Armenian Toros Sakerian said that the company would have about 300-400 employees. He thinks that at present it will be very good to make Armenia a center for jewelry, the first precondition for which is the production of high quality. In his words, Armenia has another advantage as well, that is the low price of labor force. It will also be necessary to pay much attention to the programs providing competition advantages using new technologies. © Copyright AZG

NO INTENTIONS TO GIVE UP INDEPENDENCE The president of Karabagh Arkady Ghukasian, returning from one-week visit to Moscow, gave an exclusive interview to Karabagh’s state TV. Briefly presenting the results of meetings in Moscow, the Karabaghi president promised to call a news conference already this week where he will refer to his Moscow meeting more in detail. Mr. Ghukasian particularly referred to the publications of some Armenian mass media where it was noted that he as though in Stepanakert, in presence of Azeri reporters, he announced that Karabaghi authorities are ready to refuse from the idea of state independence. He said that if Azeri press deliberately distorts his thoughts it can be understood, but it is painful to see the same tendency among Armenian reporters. The Karabaghi leader again assured that they never had intentions to give up the idea of independence. By the way the chairman of Karabaghi parliament Oleg Esayan was also ‘accused’ in giving up the program of Karabaghi authorities and refusing from the idea of re-joining Armenia. Connected with one of such publications the press office of Karabaghi parliament gave an elucidation yesterday, November 5. The word is about an article in Iravunk weekly where it was said that Oleg Esayan told the OSCE parliamentary Assembly delegation that they are ready to refuse from the idea of re-joining Armenia. Elucidating the reality the head of Karabaghi parliament’s press office Michael Hajian particularly noted that ‘the chairman of our parliament gave a detailed information about the formulation process of parliamentarism traditions to Adrian Severin, as well as about the official approaches of Stepanakert to the regulation of Karabagh conflict. The proclamation of Nagorno-Karabagh republic fully corresponds to the demands of international rights. And the alternative for Karabagh’s independence can be the international recognition of Karabagh’s joining Armenia’. Now when Azeri authorities are making provocative announcements and the issue of Karabagh conflict regulation is in a difficult stage, groundless publications about Karabaghi authorities’ concessive positions may create a favorable background for Azeri side to conduct persuasive policy in this respect. This, of course, is not wanted at all on the eve of OSCE mission’s new initiatives. We well know how the Azeri press can speculate such publications of the Armenian side. And Azeri political elite knows how to use the ‘kind’ services of their press for the goals they pursue. So there is no need to get carried away by sensations – thus becoming a political prey in the mouth of enemy. By Kim Gabrielian, Stepanakert © Copyright AZG

ACTIVATION OF TURKEY- ARMENIA ECONOMIC RELATIONS WORRIES AZERBAIJAN 05.11.2001 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The activation of economic relations between Turkey and Armenia worries Azerbaijan. In this connection Baku has dispatched its special envoy in order to be given explanations regarding this matter. "Arminfo" agency has informed that with reference to Baku press. Official Baku considers the improvement of Ankara-Yerevan economic relations might weaken Azerbaijan's position in Artsax conflict settlement. Besides this Turkey can support the Armenia's demand regarding the Baku-Tbilisi-Jeihan construction through its territory. Meanwhile, Turkey ignores the concerns of Azerbaijani colleagues. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

ARMENIA DOES NOT INTEND TO BECOME NATO MEMBER 05.11.2001 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ "Armenia does not intend to become NATO member," – President of the country Robert Kocharian stated this in an interview to "Trud" Russian newspaper. He also added, Armenia might follow the principle of total neutrality. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"

NAGORNO-Artsax DOES NOT INTEND TO RENOUNCE INDEPENDENCE 05.11.2001 /PanARMENIAN.Net/ President of the Nagorno-Artsax Republic Arkady Ghukasian stated it in an interview to NKR state television company. Having noted the political settlement of the conflict does not have any alternatives, Ghukasian declared for holding direct negotiations between Azerbaijan and NKR, "Mediamax" agency reports. At the same time he suggested not to concern the questions of independence of Nagorno-Artsax and territorial integrity of Azerbaijan yet, not going beyond discussing the relations that could promote peace in the region. The NKR President noted the political leadership of Azerbaijan had exhausted its constructive resources, as it had declined the latest proposals of OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chairmen. Baku would have to sit down to bargaining table and discuss the ways of peaceful negotiation of the conflict, Ghukasian stressed. Reproduction in full or in part is prohibited without reference to "PanARMENIAN.Net"