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http://www.ArmenianHistory.info The Origins|Between Persia and Rome|Christianization|Restoration|Civil Strife|Cilician Kingdom|Under the Yoke|Western Armenia|The Genocide|The First Republic |USSR |Miatsum |Independence|History of Artsakh (part 1)|History of Artsakh (part 2)|History of Artsakh (part 3) "..an oppressed and noble nation... It would be difficult, perhaps, to find the annals of a nation less stained with crimes than the Armenians, whose virtues have been those of peace, and their vices those of compulsion. But whatever may have been their destiny... their country must ever be one of the most interesting on the globe; and perhaps their language only requires to be more studied to become more attractive." Lord Byron Web Site ny Yuri Babayan nice work !!!

http://resurgence.gn.apc.org/pictures/marsden219.jpg Mount Ararat Evocation of a lost land. from Resurgence issue 219 back to top THE ARMENIAN DUDUK is a small, clarinet-type instrument made typically from a single length of apricot wood. It has only eight holes and a thumb hole and its effects are created by the reverberations of a double or slit-tube reed, made of cane. It is notoriously difficult to play well. But when it is, the sound that comes from it is so haunting that I challenge anyone not to be transported by it, to find themselves at once among the high plains of Western Asia - even if they have never set eyes on them. Its expressive power is often compared to that of the human voice, but I think in its particular register it goes further even than that. The simple, gliding notes bypass the senses and burrow straight to the soul. Such a sound could not be kept secret for long. It was that musical explorer, Peter Gabriel, who is credited with introducing the duduk to a wider Western audience in 1988. The Last Temptation of Christ was the first of many film scores to use the duduk. But listen to it without the films, free of associations; and you should prepare yourself carefully: ensure you are near a window with a decent view, empty your head of thought, and sit down. I was sitting down, by chance, when I first heard it, and I had a decent view. It was late on a bright morning in April 1991. I was in a café in the Armenian capital, Yerevan. For the best part of a year I had been on my way to Armenia, living in and travelling through Armenian communities. I was immensely tired, undernourished, and in that strange heady state of sustained isolation. Through the café's window it was possible to glimpse the vast distant snowcap of Ararat - across the border, in Turkey. When the first inflected notes of the duduk came through the speakers of that café, I was astonished. How could something so simple manage to distil every mile that had led me there? And there was something else: the response - an extraordinary subconscious reaction among the Armenians in that café. When they heard the duduk, everyone in their various poses subtly acknowledged Ararat, a quick glance at it or a subtle shift in their seats towards it. Within moments, they had all very slightly realigned themselves to the mountain. "I have cultivated in myself a sixth sense, an 'Ararat' sense: the sense of attraction to a mountain," wrote the Russian poet Osip Mandelstam when visiting Armenia in 1930. In Mount Ararat, the Armenians of Yerevan have a visible manifestation of their exile: forbidden Ararat, divided from them by miles of barbed-wire frontier. But for those others, the thousands of Armenians scattered around the globe, music is a rather more portable evocation of lost land. There is a degree to which much music is about exile. The yearning for a homeland is a precise articulation of the general sense of loss which certain instruments, songs and scores bring out. That is one reason why the musical tradition of the Armenians is so distinct and evocative. Part of the power of the duduk comes from the practice of playing it in pairs. The flights of the lead duduk are grounded with a second duduk, a drone, known as the dam. The role of the damkash is to sustain a single note by circular breathing, drawing breath in through the nose while at the time expelling it through the lips - not easy. For 1,500 years, the duduk has been used by the Armenians: at weddings, funerals, victories and defeats, gatherings of all kinds. This short length of apricot wood is capable not only of introducing us to a vast area of hitherto unknown cultural traditions, but also of reminding us of their universal aspects. The growth in World Music in the last decade or so has thrown up many gems, but few as distinctive as the duduk. o Recommended listening: The Music of Armenia, vols I-VI (Celestial Harmonies, US) [Vol III concentrates on the duduk] Djivan Gasparyan - Heavenly Duduk (World Network, Germany) Djivan Gasparyan - I Will Not be Sad in this World (Land Records, UK) Philip Marsden is a travel writer and novelist, and author of The Crossing Place: A Journey Among the Armenians (Flamingo, 1994). http://resurgence.gn.apc.org/issues/marsden219.htm

so it is a legal crossing I was watching a video of vahram sahakyan and you can clearly see at list 7 or 8 pedestrians passing / crossing on the back. marshrutka buses was in Yerevan in year 2000 and one of the first problems I have found my self in wan start driving was the marshrutka buses this guys will park next to each other like 3 or 4 at the time and no way of passing them unless you use the Tramvay lanes or getting in to a cross traffic it was fune / splashily wan the militsya pools you over / a lady militsyoner pooled me over - gave her 500 dram shis was like "Axper es mi zuyg karqin Chulqii porr el ches talis" men I was laughing my lungs off i'm going back in 50 days this tiem taking some Shvistoks to gave to the militsya lets see haw this will work / kuzen tor pchan / kuzen tor hakarak@ MOvses

if you find any please let me knwo Thank you MOvses

The 10 point question is – what do you think Authentic Armenian music is? Please be honest & 50 -75 words at most haw can one tell if a music is or not Armenian Thank you MOvses

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traffic ??? car traffic ?? traffic rooolllzz es inch es hartsnum Azat jan what you see is all of the supporters of Robert Qocharian & Serjik Sarqisian

Thanks LesleyJan

http://www.datacal.com/dce/armenian-western-overlays.htm Armenian Western / Eastern Keyboard Overlays The Armenian language keytop overlays are available in blue letters on clear stickers (for standard keyboards) or white letters on clear stickers (for black keyboards and laptops). The overlay set includes the stickers necessary to create the Armenian Western or the Armenian Eastern keyboard layouts. This overlays conforms to the Microsoft Armenian keyboard layouts.

http://www.hasoweb.com/pix/arm/armenia024.jpg talented YEs she is :)I have been at the temple at list 15 time and have seen at list 40~50 pictures of the temple - but look at this one that she took it's nice it has a life / and angel I love it

It certainly qualifies for the site of the months or the week Azat jan

Sasun jan if a person is not willing to help him self / i'm not going to spend my time on helping him. arachin post@ karda xndrem / MOvses

If I’m not mistaking any new family that muves to Artsakh – is offered some sort of help and land or a housing, Some time a go one of my customers has moved to Artsax – and it’s has been over 10 months now, I do get a email from him, Lets see a person who was in Los Angeles nice house and job now in Artsax making a living as a aeromechanic / farmer / plumier / Who is not complaining at all and doing his best to support his family On the other hand we have a Armenia born in Armenia and prefer to stay in the cave then to move to Artsax I just can’t understand this Government of artsakh is offering to help / will gave a cow / chickens / lamb / seeds & fruit trees for planting / will help to find a housing and land for free on top of that will also gave some $$$ / whey the the hell this family prefer to stay in the cave instead of artsakh ???

Caving In: A visit to one family's lakeside home Three women are quickly walking along the shore of Yerevan Lake . Drops of water clinging onto their hair glisten in the spring sun. It is March, but they are dressed in summer clothes, which are almost completely wet. With great effort, they drag a worn bag with the wet and gray mass of other clothes. A man's home is his . . . cave “We return from bathing, plus, we've washed some of our clothes,” says the oldest of them pointing towards the opposite shore of the lake where a pipe with water flowing from it can be clearly seen. They direct their steps up stream, toward a row of caves which have survived since prehistoric times. Eighteen families find shelter in the caves, including 50 year old Roza Sargsyan and her two daughters. “Come with us, we invite you. We often receive guests,” like a kind hostess Roza open-heartedly invites a stranger to their dwelling. A man hears the conversation, and pops his head from behind a curtain which covers a whole that is the door to this unusual home. He is Roza's husband, Rafik Karapetyan. Rafik is also 50, and like the others, his clothes too are worn. He stares from flat, blank eyes while one by one Roza shakes out the contents of the bags, straightens and lays the laundry out to dry on iron poles. An unpleasant smell of soap fills the air. Elina, the fisherwoman “In my life I don't believe in anything any more. I don't even believe in my God any more. Look, what a terrible life we lead,” says the mother of the family. A year ago the family had an apartment in the Second Block of Nork district. But then their son was seriously injured in an automobile accident, in which his wife and two children were killed. They sold the apartment to pay for his medical treatment, but the son died, too. For awhile the family rented an apartment near the Cinema Rossiya, for about $18 a month. Three months later Rafik was offered a job in Artsax. The family went to Artsax but couldn't adapt to conditions there. They returned and immediately settled down in the open air. “My son-in-law knew about this place,” Roza says. “He grew up in the neighboring district and often was fishing here. So we decided to live here.” The cave-home is reached by walking up a hillside over stone stairs. A chimney juts out of one corner, where during winter its smoke painted the stone walls with soot. “We were lucky as the winter was warm. We were collecting sticks and plastic bottles in the streets and tried to manage with them. We often built fire outside,” says Rafik. While parents are telling about how they live, the daughters are noisily trying to catch fish. Twenty-four year old Ida had a miscarriage only a month ago – losing a baby in its seventh month. She jumps into the cold lake and catches fish hiding under stones. “I found many things in this lake such as a submachine gun and a mine. But it is dangerous to swim here. We walk to Naberezhni (quay) and swim there,” says Ida. Big fish are eaten. Little ones are fed. Her sister, 22-year old Elina , sorts fish from big to small in containers of “Aparan” drinking water. “We eat big ones right away. And we wait for the small ones to grow up and only then we eat them,” she says. They mainly eat fish, which is an advantage of the area. Roza says that sometimes it happens they remain hungry for many days. But when fishermen or children from neighboring districts come here, they bring them something to eat. Nearby caves are empty, however it is clear that once people used to live there. Rafik says that many people moved to other places. Others usually leave their caves for 10 days or so, but again come back. “However, we don't neighbor with anybody. We just live,” says Roza proudly. There is a stereo in one of the cave's corners, which connects them with the outer world. They throw angry words at authorities. Mother and daughters have lacquered nails and dyed hair. Roza says she doesn't forbid her daughters to do whatever they want and spends money on their interests too. For two months Rafik has been working on a dumping truck. One of their friends fixed him up for that job. For one month of work he has received 45,000 drams (about $80). However, it seems misfortune pursues them. His wife says complaining, “he found the job with great difficulties but the crane broke his fingers. But tomorrow he will go to work again as we have no other choice.” Rafik goes to work in the morning at 5-6 o'clock and returns in the evening at 8-9. The family waits for him impatiently as they know he will bring something to eat. Rafik (and his dump truck injury) and Roza During conversation they suddenly began talking about their third daughter Angela, who got married in February. In fact, the girl was kidnapped and taken for a bride. “It's true, they stole our daughter but then we invited their relatives at the day of Trndez (Candle Mass Day). We covered the ground with clothes and laid the table. I had a couple of gold teeth so I sold them so that we could wine and dine them properly. I didn't want my daughter to feel ashamed,” says Roza. They show the place where they built fire and over which all of them were jumping that day. They say they don't feel ashamed and shy with anybody as it is their home. “Why should we feel ashamed? Let those who are going to laugh at us, walk in our shoes,” says Roza. The parents spent years working at the Yerevan Electric Bulb Factory. However, today nobody in the family thinks of finding a job except for Rafik. They don't even think about the problem of living in the open. And Roza thinks that if her daughter again gets pregnant people will probably pity them and provide a small apartment. She believes the government is obliged to take care of people like them. A car parks in the distance. All of them look at it. They want to guess who it carries. “Maybe they are from the Red Cross. They said they would bring aid for us,” Roza says. Laundry day at the lake Ida destroys her mother's dreams saying they are just ordinary people. The girls swiftly walk around in the cave showing places where they sleep. “This is both our dining room and bedroom and kitchen and everything. But we don't have things like pillows, blankets and mattresses,” explains Elina. Ida says she used to sleep with her husband (she doesn't even know where is he now) next to the stove. And when the couple needed privacy, the parents and sister used to go for a walk. The whole shore is at their disposal. Roza says people from different TV channels often visit and film them. Then they show them on TV and people know about the place where they live. People come to see “residents of caves” but they don't come empty-handed. “In the morning we ate fish and in the evening crawfish. God is great. God helps and doesn't allow us to remain hungry,” she says despite she doesn't believe in God. They see their guests out without opening and closing the “door”. They simply wave a farewell saying: “Come again, our doors are always open.” http://armenianow.com/2004/march26/features/cave/index.asp

Grounded in a Distant Land : Families of detained airline crew wonder what's happening in Equatorial Guinea Last week the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Armenia confirmed that six citizens of Armenia are among 20 foreigners arrested in Equatorial Guinea and accused of conspiring to overthrow the government of that country. Ashot Karapetyan, captain of the AN-12 crew, second pilot Samvel Darbinyan, aeronautical engineer Ashot Simonyan, navigator Samvel Matchkalyan, flight engineer Razmik Khachatryan and technician-engineer Suren Muradyan, have been in custody since March 9. According to the Central Administrative Board of the Civil Aviation of Armenia, the crew works for Tiga Air and were running chartered trade flights inside Central Africa. But authorities in Equatorial Guinea insist that the flight crew were part of a planned coup to overthrow President Teodoro Nguema. As Armenia has no representation in that country, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Armenia has called upon its allies in Africa to look to monitor the situation and assure that the Armenians are properly treated. Meanwhile the crew's families in Yerevan have little information and considerable anxiety concerning their loved ones' whereabouts and condition. “I have all my phone conversations with my husband registered,” says Nara Karapetyan, the captain's wife. “The last time I talked to him on March 5, it was 3 p.m. He told me everything was normal and on March 9 scheduled flights would start again.” The couple agreed to speak again on March 8, but when Nara called, her husband did not answer, renewing her anxiety. “When I was talking with my husband by phone (March 5), he told me they had some problems. I didn't know who he was talking about, customers or local authorities. As phone conversations with foreign countries are expensive we didn't talk much,” says the wife of Karapetyan, Nara Hayrapetyan. For about 15 days the wives couldn't get any information about their husbands and didn't know even if they were alive. All they were hearing was news reports that their husbands were involved in an international incident and were part of an attempted coup. “We want to know one thing, are they alive and are they provided with medical assistance? We want them to return alive, it is important,” says Khachatryan's wife, Aghavni. On Monday of this week, the International Red Cross told families that there is no threat to the crews' lives and that they are still in Malabo . Next Tuesday, representatives from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are scheduled to accompany Red Cross officials on a flight to Malabo to further investigate the matter. “They are among the best pilots of all times in Armenia,” says a friend, helicopter captain Vardges Mnatsakanyan. “They are professional pilots and honest people. They are people, who during the war were keeping Artsax on their wings. Everybody knows them including authorities.” http://armenianow.com/2004/march26/news/pilots/index.asp

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Azat jan yerek gisher ur eyir gnatsel ??? mi hat et axchkan zangi hartsra / mek el tesar ennter moratsats lines, kam el vorpes suveneer pahela aper hima frame a arel patits kaxel / nayum yev arotuna qo yekats jampin de papulyar lineln el etpesa sk@zbist gulpanerta korum heto koshiknert heto shapik@t heto gluxt e kortsnum ~~~yerb amusnanum es ~

"What is wrong with you folks with all this pics of animals in a tabuleh thread. How dare you put pics of animals and talk about stinking khorovats in a thread devoted to one of the best dishes ever made in history of mankind..." AzatJan - yes et tabulen aveli vat yev djvar em marrsum - qan mis@, ham el tesnum enq vro lav chi statsvum tabulen asinq korgits ognenq. seran@ datark ch@mna

Armat jan - called cold cooking - chi barekam tsankatsats tarm mis - minchev 24~36 jam sarrnarani mej chlin yerbeq chem ogtagortsi - namanavand yete vayri kendanu mis e. havata - msi ham@ lavanum e ham el dzgutyun@, yev nayev mi qani tasnyak bacteryaner nuynpes veranum en mejterits. frozen looses its taste - aveli lav e mi qich ham@ kori qan te REZINI pes lini havata arden 15 tary e vayri msi het gorts unem, yes el tarm jamanak shat eyi sirum yepel, bayst te tesa vor aveli lav e sarretsnem qan te yepeluts heto rezini pes chtsamvi. Marinad anum em Saretsneluts heto @nedhanrapes 12jam Movses

gevo jan i know dra hamar el drel em depi 27" tv/monitori korm@ aper

i'm going on the may 22 He HAaaaaaaaaaa

by azat "how many of you remember the school lunches. The slice of bologna on a dry rye bread. Did they ever give us caviar. i seem to think they did once in a while, but I could be wrong. been a long time." caviar ? Anushusht Barekam amen or menak te Asetrina / bluga caviar cher iyl Smbuki - de gites eli en vro mi qani angam kervatsa yerevum