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http://www.mccullochhid.com/pics/x990.jpg I want I want I want 7-Million Candle power flashlight and It's only $600 http://www.mccullochhid.com/x990_spec.htm

Archer as in "robin hood" archer or archer as in plural of arch (bear) Wouldn't a 14 year old then technically be an "archook"

MJ, your best bet is to reduce the size down to maybe 500-600 pixels in width. Then with 50K you can get pretty reasonable pictures. The 1024 resolution you are at just would require too much space to do justice to the pics. If you are using photoshop, I am guessing you have ImageReady. Resize the pics and use imageready to pick the best JPEG compression level based on what you see on screen. Let me know if you need more help with this.

Oh I know I'm going to love this thread! Here's the sushi you requested ... sorry it's not the perfect picture and it's compressed for the web but my camera is currently jammed with dirt and dust (I have been abusing it quite a bit) but soon I'll be replacing it. http://www.Sip.us/hf/DSCN1847.jpg and CLICK HERE to see my least favorite sushi waitress ever.

Come on Hagarag Did you just try to stereotype a group into "you people"?

What similarities? According to big bang, it took a VERY long time for earth to form. As far as I know, God had Adam and Eve ready in a few days.

Wooo hooo !!! That was my first thread and post ever on hyeforum!!!! Brings back good memories of my younger days.

I really liked that program. It was very well done I thought. Quite eye opening for me The part about DaVinci was most excellent... and I fully agree that the figure of John looks like a girl. In any case, their interpretations on how the church has manipulated M. Magdalen was fascinating. For you left-coasters, I highly recommend it ... 10pm tonight on ABC.

By the way, for the record, my computers are just tools to me. Extensions of my own body if you will. I don't have any particular feelings about them that I wouldn't have for different parts of my body or other tools I may use during the day like a hamer, a knife, or a wrench.

Again I disagree. I think it has to do with how complete one feels. If there is a "void" in one's life, sure, loneliness can be the source of great sadness. But if there is no void, then loneliness will just be loneliness. Of course I can't say what will be in the future. So about future, your guess about me is as good as mine. I can only base my conclusions based on the last 27 years.

I disagree. It could be lonely but doesn't have to be sad. Lonliness does not always imply sadness as many falsely believe.

First we need a "definition" of God. If it is in fact the force that set anything and everything in place, then there can be no proof since it, in and of itself, is its own proof

By the way, for the record, although I may not be a believer in God, I think Jesus was an amazing person. I certainly am a big subscriber to a lot of his teachings and his philosophies on how one should live. There is no doubt he was something special, especially for his times! But my "belief" in him stops where "God" as we know it today enters the picture.

A prediction is different than a self-fulfilling prophecy!!! "A messiah will come" ... yah you start believing that and one day a messiah will come and you will believe he or she is the messiah Science tells me, if I kick the ball with a certain force, it is going to go up with a certain height then come back down and hit the ground. Before believing this magical ability to predict the future, I go and kick a ball a few times and after a while I realize, gee, that prediction is awefully close to what I am seeing so I start to suspect maybe there is something to it! Now of course I can also go and say after what happened to the ball that it was the will of God that caused it to go to that hight and then come back down. But that doesn't tell me anything about what will happen the next time I kick the ball. Who knows what mood God will be in then. Simplistic example, but I hope my point is clear that with "God" anything can be explained AFTER it happened. But that's not necessarily the correct explanation. With God and bible, for all has been done before we have an explanation for it. It was God who did it. So? First of all I have no way to verify this amazing discovery, second of all, it doesn't do much to explain anything about how things are and will be! So that tells me it's too simplistic, it "overfits" the data, and it thus has no real value.

So the study finds that those causing these fires are most likely retarded and angry. hmmmm... very interesting ... I think I'll file this discovery in my folder under the section "duuuuuuh"

Once again there is a HUGE difference. The Guru's religion model (all the ones I have seen so far) explain everything after they happen! They have no predictive abilities of any kind (none that can be tested and verified). For this, I will comfortably say their "models" are full of air. With a scientific model of explaining things, you have experimental data to test and retest and verify things AND to predict future outcomes. That is what makes someone like me a believer in those models.

??? Hard to say but with extrinsic rewards you get recognition, a trophy, maybe monetary compensation and a lot of goodies that you may not get with an intrinsic one. But then the extrinsic one may not feel as good as the intrinsic one ... But then again, what is an intrinsic reward anyway?

Major cleanup done. Sorry it had to come to this but there was no other solution that I could see.

The main difference is, in the world of science you get to test those assumptions. In the case of religion and the "God" model, you can't test anything. Any model you build based on assumptions is only as good as how well it can predict things. If you have a simple model that can predict outcomes of events on a consistent basis, then that's a strong argument for the potential validity of the initial assumptions that were used to build that model. That's what makes science VERY different from religion.

... So in other words, let's assume something and then start talking. What if that assumption is a false one? Isn't this what ALL religious discussions come down to? There is no way around that assumption.

I can't believe you two are complaining about engineering ... what other type of major can you go through an entire degree system without having to read through a single book? If you have common sense, creativity, and a systematic approach to problem solving (which is a learned trait I think) then it's like a walk in the park. Sure you'll have sleepless nights doing projects and homeworks and stressing about tests and what not ... but at least you don't spend your years staring at books and writing endless pages of crap. With history and most liberal arts stuff you are forced to go and learn what was, has been, is, will be, etc by reading and reading and reading the endless stream of "stuff" produced by others. With biology and chemistry you are memorizing "stuff" and learning a bit about how things work. With math and physics you are going DEEP into theory and the abstract and you have to put a lot of effort and train your body to start to think theoretically. With most engineering type majors, you only get enough of the theory to give you a framework to think and analyze things ... after that, it's all fun and games of DOING stuff!!!! Gotta love the science of doing things as opposed to learning things!!!!! Oh and especially in "CS + E", I loved the fact that I had a chance of getting good grades on a test without having to know everything a-priori. You have to appreciate questions that you can figure out the answer to without specific prior knowledge!!!!

Cleanup done

Whatever the official reasons, that does not mean what was not done wasn't justified. Sasun my entire childhood was spent growing up in an environment with daily 9/11's ... and Sadam and those feeding him were the ones responsible (as far as I can see). So you know what? I hope they find that SOB and the cut him up into tiney little pieces and feed him to cute little fuzzy dogs. So at least some creatures can become happy due to him having existed. ... and as far as Religion not being a closed system of thought ... COME ON! There is this thing called fantasy religions and then there is real life. How can you say religion is not a "system of thought" (let alone the whole open/close thing).

Hey, I had a disk crash and lost my copies. Can you send them to me again? :eek: