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1 Page 219. We cannot see it on the internet. ---- ARMENIA’S STRONG MAN DIET/b] “David of Sassoun is the hero of the Armenian folk epic, ‘Daredevils of Sassoun‘ . Generations of Armenians bards extolled the heroic deeds of this barbaric warrior who battled enemy Arabs. His peers would be Ulysses, Acilles, Herculezs, and all other stars of the ‘sword an sandal‘ adventures A famous statue of David stands in Yerevan” http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/David_of_Sasun_Yerevan.jpg fast forward.... “We asked, ‘What did David eat?’ What kind of chow gave this Armenian Titan his extraordinary strength worthy of generations of praise‘? According to the epic, the ultimate Armenian male sex symbol thrived on forty goat skins of butter and forty goat skins of honey, yough u meghr made him grow by day, not by year. As a baby he became so strong… he tore up the blinders of his cradle. And, of course, how could an ancient he-man like David live without roasted meat?…. And guess what he did before kissing his sweetheart Khahadout. He drank forty year old pomegranate wine. And after wooing his lady love, he probably ate a big bowl of harissa, his favorite porridge. Here is his diet-** Breakfast- Sandwich of bread, butter, and honey Lunch- Harissa porridge. Dinner -Khorovats barbeque with pomegranate wine. No snack- His dinner was too filling. The epic poem also mentions David’s consumption of natural , uncooked foods, roots, grass, and even quails and rabbits. We have to remember that he spent a lot of his time alone in the forests. And that’s one of the reasaons that he was called ‘tzoor’ , which means ‘bent’ or ‘crazy’. We hope that anyone attempting to recreate the diet of David will, unlike our hero, be sure to thoroughly cook any and all wild game, regardless of how much pomegranate wine has been drunk beforehand. When we shared our knowledge with our driver, he explained that the Armenian philosopher (all Armenian taxi drivers love philosophy) Mkhitar Heratsi had advised that roasted meat be eaten once a week, and that pomegranate wine also be drunk once a week. Then take matsoun every day and drink spring water." http://www.bestinwine.com/shop/images/T/t_19831_01-01.jpg ----- ** WHAT??? You mean he did not have Khash for breakfast, khashlama for lunch and shish kebab for dinner? How come he had not heard such “armenian” delicacies like kolma, kalma and kalsturma? Where did he live, Alaska? OK! I'll ask her Quail Կաքավ; http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_34PE0ZEgM80/TBlt93v8eyI/AAAAAAAARlY/WU5qqYGX2ds/s1600/california-quail.jpg

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A Line in the Sand? Another “dynasty” bites the sand. Another “ islamic republic”? Those so called "countries" do not deserve the title of "democracy or republic". What is the definition of "dictator"? Is it like " I say, you listen" , or is it "Do as I say, not like I do"? Or is it an editor of a "dictionary"? Regardless how "contradictory" they may be. I am not the only one. Listen to the media and see how they are comparing this to the so called Iranian revolution./islamization. The "Shah of Egypt" has just resigned. It is reminiscent of some 30 years ago when the Shah of Iran resigned and a subsequent ayatollaic “islamic republic” was created. The so called “muslim brotherhood/akhwan muslimeen” has been banned for over 50 years, ever since Nasser hanged a few of them. We had not heard of them all this time, and now we hear it every other hour. Is Egypt on the way to become another “islamic reepublic” like Iran? Who’s next?** Or, will Egypt, like Sudan split into two with a North Christian-Coptic and south -muslim? Is “corruption” an egypto-arabic word? The Swiss Bank has frozen his assets. Or is the Pyramid Scheme/Ponzi? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme **And these countries call themselves republics and or constitutional monarchies”? Saudia, Jordan, Syria, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco… and … and…furkey? And imagine that the US aids, abets and supports many of those pretend countries where a girl may be murdered for ezxposing her hair. I mean the "hair" on her head. Note that many of those so called countries were mere “lines in the sand” drawn by the Romans, the Greeks, and later by the ottomans and the Anglo-French. Survey the map and see how straight those lines are, and compare how crooked the Map of Armenia is. Who drew that map? mehmet or Ivan? Which is mightier, sand or mountain? Those so called “countries” do not deserve “democracy”, they are better off with “shah-s” and dictators , the likes of Pahlavi, Moubarak, Qaddafi et al. The least of “democratic” countries Armenia has had three presidents in the past 20 years. Where are the Erwanduni, Arshakuni and Bagratuni Dynasties? How many presidents have Egypt had? Not to mention that other non-country of ali-oghlu dynasty. And here is the real knee slapper comedy that Egypt should become a "democracy/eshekracy" ala ankara :jerry:

Above we saw the menu at the royal and nobility feasts, where most of the meat delicacies are those of small game and birds. No mention of larger game. At times even bear meat is consumed. http://www.treehugger.com/eurasian-brown-bear.jpg http://assets.panda.org/img/khosrov_forest_state_reserve__armenia_293943.jpg http://www.atb.am/en/armenia/nature/reserve/khosrovreservehttp://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=khosrov+reserve+pictures&cp=24&rlz=1R2RNTN_enUS376&wrapid=tljp1297437985616016&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=MVVVTa_-BIiSgQfK8dCXDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQsAQwAA&biw=1064&bih=475 / http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=khosrov+reserve+pictures&cp=24&rlz=1R2RNTN_enUS376&wrapid=tljp1297437985616016&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=MVVVTa_-BIiSgQfK8dCXDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&sqi=2&ved=0CCMQsAQwAA&biw=1064&bih=475 http://www.arkive.org/mouflon/ovis-orientalis/image-G28344.html http://www.circlehranchtexas.com/images/ranch/sheep_program/armenian_mouflon.jpg http://cdn1.arkive.org/media/3C/3C09CC7F-70C4-442D-9030-025024976516/Presentation.Large/Male-Armenian-mouflon.jpg Boar, Wild Pig- Varaz http://www.itsnature.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/mead_wild_boar.JPG Aytsyam- The European Roe Deer (Capreolus capreolus), http://trebonsko.net/UserFiles/vydry/srnec1.jpg Beautiful Baby; http://www.hlasek.com/foto/capreolus_capreolus_8124.jpg ------ “Եւ նա բռնում էր, բռնոտում այսպէս, Եղնիկ, եղջերու եւ այլ ինչ ասես:” Tork Angeghatsi I have also heard the following recited “Եղնիկ, եղջերու այծեամներ պէս պէս:” David of Sassoun

Once again, please , let us take this with a huge grain of salt, since, as stated by the authors this is not a scientific history, but “fact, fiction and folklore”. http://moneyandblogging.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/grain-of-salt.jpg Page 210, with some abbreviations. === Glossary. Please correct me where I have erred, Rabbit=Նապաստակ Hare=Ճագար Grouse=Մայրեհաւ Partridge= Կաքավ Pheasant=Փասիան Swan =Կարապ Peacock=Սիրամարգ Almond=,Նուշ Apple= Խնձոր Apricot=Ծիրան Asparagus= Ծնեբեկ 1 Beans=Լուբիա, Լովիաս Լոբի 2 Buckwheat= Հնդկացորեն Cantaloupe= Սեխ Շամամ3 Cereals=Հատիկ Ընդեղեն Cheese=Պանիր Cherries= Կեռաս Chestnut=Շագանակ Chickpeas=Սիսեռ Cornelian cherries=Թթու Կեռաս Cucumber=Վարունգ Date=Արմաւ Fig,=Թուզ Flatbread=Լաւաշ Filbert=Արքայակաղին Garlic= Սխտոր Grapes= Խաղող Honey=Մեղր Lentil= Ոսպ 3 Lettuce,=Հազար Onion,=Սոխ Parsnips= Վայրի Ստեպղին Peach= Դեղձ Pear=Տանձ Pea= Ոլոռն Quince=Սերկեւիլ Seferkil Rhubarb= խաշնդեղ Rice= Բրինձ walnut =Ընկոյզ4 1. = Ծնեբեկ 2. Լուբիա, Լովիաս Լոբի 2 3. = Սեխ Շամամ3 4. Ընկոյզ4 --- Some interesting points.” 1. Why is Asparagus known as Ծնեբեկ/Dzenebek ? The wisdom is that it is Cut at Birth, before it becomes tough and woody. 2. Լուբիա, Լովիաս Լոբի . From the Arabic “loubia”لوبیا 3.Lentil = Vosp Note that in the Armenian “vospnyak” means “lens” 3 = Սեխ Շամամ شمام In the Arabic shumm means to smell Note that in the Arabic the M is accented to sound like MM. In Syria the watermelon is known as “jebes” and the melon battikh, in Lebanon battikh means watermelon and the melon is “shammam”, based on the fact it smells. A side note. My father, who loved flowers, but claimed to have no sense of smell hated to buy (cantaloupe) melons, instead he, with a sharp hearing would rather buy watermelons. 4. Ընկոյզ. Even though we use this word to specifically mean “walnut” it is in fact a generic term to simply mean “NUT”, just as at times “filbert” is known as “poqr @nkuyz”.

APRIL FOOL AGAIN? This is Comedistan. Who is laughing? Are we having fun yet? More than a BARREL OF MONKEYS? The barrel is spilling over again. http://www.emblibrary.com/el/product_images/B1332.jpg Pullleezze! It is not funny!!! It is that time of the year, Comedy Tonight, when all the comedians and monkeys come out of the barrel. Yet some of us will dance to these tunes. DISGUSTING!!!! There are more vulgar versions ..but… I am more ashamed that he may be of Marashtsi heritage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy_WoNJpKL8 ---- http://news.am/eng/news/47042.html

National Anthem or National (an)Shame? There ought be a law to stop this singing of the National Anthem at every trashy event, and dragging it to the level of the sewer! Why do some of us feel obligated to open an event with National Anthem, be it football, baseball or any other goofball? http://sketchedout.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/ratrace.jpg Why do some Armenians insist on opening every event with the singing of Mer Hayrenik, and or the obligatory Hayr Mer, regardless that it may be a Khashapatoum/Khashlama festival. OK! Herisapatum! What is so sacro-sanct about a "khash-fest"? Why do some of us feel obligated to stand up an cross our faces before every spoonful of khash, accompanied with jiggers of oghi/vodka? What does "khash" to do with "khach"? Speaking of “WORD malfunction” Who the hell is this bimbo? Why was she chosen to sing the National Anthem? Who the hell is she, who does not know where her vorik and beran are was chosen… Where is the Barnum and Bailey “Freak Show”? Remember this garbage? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtiZdrJvZt4 I agree with Roseanne. When the National Anthem is being sung many spit and scratch their crotches. Whatever happened to those days!!! Even if he, just as Roseanne are of hewish heritage. OH!! Say can you see? When the National Anthem was dragged to such trashy depths!!

Above we see that some aver that Vahagn is the Armenian variant of Vulcan. See how many times "fire and smoke" are mentioned in the above poem about the Birth of Vahagn Beside Vulcan being the god of fire, he was also the “patron saint” tradesmen, primarily the metalworkers. Diego Velasquez -Vulcan; http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/Mythology/TheForgeOfVulcanVelazquez.html

Tank you Ashot for your kind words. As I have said before, my posts are mainly intended for my own entertainment and enlightenment, I am still in a learning mode, and I am sure many here are entertained and enlightened as well. Under another topic we will see who Vulcan is and what is volcano. Allow me to add that our Mythology is not even at a stage of infancy, mainly because many of the writers are/were foreigners, and during the last century our “historians” treated everything and anything dealing with “mythology and religion” to be mere superstition and counter revolutionary. Sad, very sad. An altogether separate subject! I can’t find it now. I do remember, in the Hanragitaran the concluding lines of the monograph about religion goes- in paraphrase, “Although, officially Armenia is a non-religious (atheistic) state, there still are those who believe in old superstitions.”

Dear Bob. Welcome! Please look here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=9856&st=0&p=112174&hl=capital%20&fromsearch=1entry112174

http://www.countrymusicwi.com/cheesehead.jpg Hey cheese head/panir glokh! When did you come back from Mongolia? I mean Wisconsin? Did you see your cheesy brothers win the super dolma bowl? Who is he? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsHf9piJaDM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A12ok-1zGH8&feature=related Is this your new “buffet” destination now? http://www.dolmama.am/ Note; I only play with people who have a hefty/cheesy sense of humor.

http://hyeforum.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=1360 Naturally, she looks Russian. With the obligatory gold tooth. Is that what the Armenian word “ՈՍԿԵԲԵՐԱՆ/voskeberan” means? And why she would call her wares/merchandise as “semushka”. http://k43.pbase.com/o6/06/726706/1/87335532.HzEr7ZNR.IMG_0253copy.jpg Is this where the entire treasury of Armenian is? http://www.sportsrubbish.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/woman-gold-teeth.jpg Sunflower seed is a healthy snack just as the oil; http://www.stomos.net/sunflower_oil.JPG Page 209. SUNFLOWER SEEDS **In Yerevan there are two street spectacles. No. Make that three. Number one is the sunflower seed sellers, number two are the men, women and child standing at every street corner munching it, (in the least, this is a healthier custom than smoking) and last but not the least -old men playing nardi at every corner. To not forget all those unemployed musicians playing their instruments. During those darker days, we were the only ones in Jermuk. There was not any other in sight. And! Suddenly!! Out of nowhere, a grandma set a table selling sunflower seeds. *** Obviously nzeiher this Otar husband or his Yerevan born so called "aremnain" know thw Armenian language. Nowhere above do the authors tell us the Armenian word for the “sunflower seed” aside from the Russian “semushka”. Anyone know what ԱՐԵՒԱԾԱՂԻԿarevatsaghik is? **In Yerevan there are two street spectacles. No. Make that three. Number one is the sunflower seed sellers, number two are the men, women and child standing at every street corner munching it, and last but not the least -old men playing nardi at every corner. To not forget all those unemployed musicians playing their instruments. During those darker days, we were the only ones in Jermuk. There was not any other in sight. And! Suddenly!! Out of nowhere, a grandma set a table selling sunflower seeds. *** Nowhere above do the authors tell us the Armenian word for the “sunflower seed” aside from the Russian “semushka”. Anyone know what ԱՐԵՒԱԾԱՂԻԿarevatsaghik is? http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j219/Kosmosflot/sunflower.gif http://www.nps.gov/wica/naturescience/images/Annual-Sunflower.jpg Here is an exchange between the author and some correspondents;

Boghos is right, that is the only word I know** Please pardon my nit-picking. The word in Armenian is “հրաԲուխ”, a compound word made of “hoor=fire” and “Boukh/bkhil”= to spring, to gush, to arise as in a spring/fountain of water, therefore in Latin it will be “hra-Boukh” not “Poukh”. ** No. I lied. I saw in one place the word “հրալեր/hraler” = “fire mountain“ which I have never seen used.. Ah!! I just saw that those other people use the phrase to mean "burning mountain". According to Gavoukjian/Kavuk-ji-ian** Vahagn is the Armenian variant of the Latin -“vulcan”. See post #3 here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=13100 So. According to this would “vahagn” be another word for “volcano”? BTW. Did you know that now cold Masis-Ararat was a hot volcano at one time? PS. Very good!! Yes Sip, in Arabic it is "burkan".

Puck him!! Bury him in Zimbabwe, the country where just like other so called Armenian scientists wish to emigrate to. If he was such a great scientist in SS Armenia, what the hell business did he have in LA? Is Glendale a suburb of Gavar? Of course! There is not enough gold in Gavar as in Glendale???? Is the word "hypocrite"** an Armenian invention? How about the word like "patriot/hayrenaser"? Yes, we know. We are all hayrenaser/patriots as long as the Hayrenik is a million miles away!!! How many kilos of gold did that idiot find on the streets of Glendale? **A better Armenian word would be "stakhos/liar". PS. And, you want me to move to Armenia when those even half a brain are trying to move out?

When I read the above response by the initiator of this thread, I could not make head or tail, I could not understand a word. It seems like they may have written in another language and let the online translator translate it.Even after rezading it several times I still have no idea what it says. BTW. We know that "toprak" is a furkish word to mean "soil/land/hogh". Some call it "dirt" in English. ---- Dictionary- Dirt;

This year St. Sargis Day will on Saturday Feb. 19, 5 days after St. Valentine’s. Page 204 . Rituals and Traditions. According to the book in question it happens 63 days before Easter. It goes on saying that even if St. Sargis does not comply with the definition of a saint, I.e a devout Christian clergy , that he was a warrior hero from Kesaria that was martyred in the year 304 A.D. by the Roman Diocletian, simply because he was a Christian. Even then , they add, there are so many churches named for him.** They write in length about the traditions, foods and other subject, and add that these days in Armenia St. Valentine'’s Day is becoming more popular and that many observe St. Sargis day only in anticipation of the BIG DAY of St. Valentine. It is that time of the year again. Once again, take this with a huge “grain of salt”, since the authors of the book in question don'’t pretend it to be a scientific work, but as the title suggests…folklore”. http://moneyandblogging.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/grain-of-salt.jpg --- ---- http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=17345&pid=224560&st=0entry224560 Of course, St Sargis rode a WHITE horse, and he became a Saint, simply because folklore says that he was MARTYRED. Observe his son's name “MARTYROS“; Huh! Do any others name their children "martyr/martiros"? http://www.torontoarmenianchurch.com/dnn/Portals/0/News/2009/Feb/stsarkis.jpg Just as St. George did; http://carteretchurch.com/images/Tableau_StGeorge.gif Armatakan; Some kind of “circular soft bread”. Not to forget that the soft part of the external ear known as “(ear)lobe” is known as բլթակ/ bltak, just as the trigger of a gun. ---- Homanishneri Bararan; ---- **I have yet to see a Yerevanite named Sargis, they are all Serzh, Serge, or Sergey. However more than half of Yerevanites have the family of Sargisian, Sargsyan. Who is that Sargis that had so many children? Nowadays, the young rather than follow in the footsteps of St. Sargis, start making love and have babies they rather light candles.

WINTER WONDERLAND!! ՀՐԱՇՔ ՁՄԵՐ Here is what it looks like here… not really http://www.terragalleria.com/pictures-subjects/icicles/picture.icicles.alps3099.html But this; http://www.fotosearch.com/bigcomp.asp?path=DSN/DSN007/1774552.jpg Or this; http://www.photochart.com/data/media/3/Icicle.JPG Armenia has her own Winter Wonderland as well; http://news.am/pic/news/46729.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/FF_59.jpg Nairi, Ashot, Aratta et al. are you in this video? This is an interesting novelty;

SUNIK-sudan? Միթէ Սուտ- ան Սուտ վանը ը Սուտ երկիր՞ է ? Ով է գծել այդ՛ սահմաննեերը? մէհմետը, չրչիլը կամ լենին-ստալինը? We still don’t know what that new state of “south Sudan” will name themselves. I don’t know why that country was called Sudan. To me it sounds like it is from Arabic to mean the” country of blacks-el Sud/aswad/sudan(plural)”. It is curious that in the French “sud” means “south”. Note that, even though “South Sudan” is less than half the size of the present country it has most of the wealth, like petroleum and other commodities, besides it is majority non-Muslim (Christian et al). Artsakh , on the other hand has very little similarity , as far as demographics, natural resources etc. To interest the superpowers, on the contrary. ---- How about we start a new campaign to rename Artsakh Sunik, East Sunik if you will , to make it easier for the international media to pronounce??? We should also consider shortening and simplifying other geographic names , like Stepanakert** etc.. **Who the hell that Stepan Shahumian the commie is anyway!!! He did not die on behalf of Armenia, but for communism!! http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=22191&pid=260830&st=0entry260830 ---- http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2011/01/31/nalbandyan/ How many times have I asked how big Armenia is, the answer has always been .” I don‘t know, “like Rhode Island”? Armenia (officially) 11,400 sq miles.. And … The official figures for Artsakh before … 1,699 sq mi. Today, with the addition of another 2,000 sq mi. =4,000. That alone is twice the size of the state of Delaware The official figures for Artsakh is 1,700 sq mi. Add to that the lands between Armenia and Iran, another 3,000 sq mi, what do you get? 5,000 sq mi? Add that to map of Armenia= 18,000 ? Not to forget Nakhjavan 2,200 sq mi. =20,000. http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs071.snc3/13860_321055120365_584095365_9663519_5103115_n.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arcax.jpg

ԲՍԺՍԿ ՄԱԺԱԿ ԽԱԱԺԱԿ BAZHAK MAZHAK KHAZHAK Mazhak is the historical Armenian name of Kesaria Khazhak, at times used as a personal name in fact means “hazel eyed”; http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1849829/2/istockphoto_1849829-hazel-eye.jpg ԲԱԺԱԿ/Bazhak In another post we spoke about “toasting/ Kenats and bazhakajar #50; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=32417&pid=279213&st=40entry279213 See Rick Ney’s take of it; http://www.tacentral.com/notes_story.asp?story_no=13 What does ԲԱԺԱԿ/bazhak really mean? Hand cup; http://images.inmagine.com/img/photoaltozenshui/yaa067/yaa067000005.jpg Stone cup; Paper cup; http://www.cupmachine.net/image/cup/paper-cup2.jpg ԲԱԺԱԿ Some have interpreted it based on բաժանելbazhanel, “to divide”. This may be partially true as the cup divides the main container into portions, like “բաժակել/ բաժան ել” The word is found in many other neighboring languages, all the way from Sanskrit, Assyrian , Persian and Hebrew. Let us begin with #3 Common drinking glass; http://www.chinatraderonline.com/Files/Gifts-and-Crafts/Cup/Glass%20Cup/Drinking-Glass-20402797430.jpg Wine glass; http://buycheapwineglasses.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/cheap-wine-glasses-1.jpg Բաժակահարում In fact the source says Բաժակահարութիւն** Striking glasses, Clinking; http://www.fotobank.ru/img/FC04-0707.jpg?size=l **Harut, did you know this? -- Chalice; http://www.stferd.org/images/vocation%20chalice.jpg Here is what drinking vessels looked like before the invention of glass-Tass; http://i.ebayimg.com/04/!Bp+2yWg!Wk~$(KGrHqEH-CkEuY25N(cdBLt2YMc)gQ~~_12.JPG Skih; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Skih.jpg http://www.arlis.am/Annexes%5C2%5CGT27_06page119.jpg http://www.123pimpin.com/storedimage/cup.jpg A bitter glass, much like the Socrates’ glass of Hemlock ------- This? ՍԿԻՀ SKIH There seems to be no such word. It seems to be ՍԿԻ/SKI without the ending H, which further redirects us to ՍԿԱՀ/skah ՄԵԾԲԱԺԱԿ/Large cup. From the Assyrian “esqefa”. Also note that “սկահակ/skahak” is the diminutive form to mean “small cup”.

Thank you Zartonk for enriching the topic. I just noticed that the above site in the first post does not open. Here its is again. http://armenianstudies.csufresno.edu/arts_of_armenia/textiles.htm

ԿԵՆԱՑ Toasting See also Rick Ney; http://www.tacentral.com/notes_story.asp?story_no=13 -- Page 196, cannot be seen in the internet version. TOASTING ԿԵՆԱՑ ԲԱԺԱԿԱՃԱՌ** How many other (foreign) words do we know?**** “Armenian toasting is the triumph of life with all its complexity and mystery, its joys and grief, its births and deaths, and everything in between. Armenians toast when they celebrate their joys, dampen their sorroews, and assuage their struggles. KENATS means ‘cheers‘ in Armenian, literally ‘ to life‘”. … Further after long diversions as how, at times the toast is directed to pregnant women (life), and in general to women they talk about the word “kenats” from “kyanq”-life, that it is relative to the Latin “gen/gyn” as in “genesis’ and gyn-կին-woman.. Here is the fun part. At times the toaster will pronounce the word “kenats” as “kinats”-to the women. How about “գինաց/ginats” to the wines? *** Just like “anoosh lini”/ Who is that “Anush”? Gohar Gasparian? **We will see what that means in another post. Glass-oration? *** Where is hagarag to tell us that “chEnats” in fact mean “chInats” and “kEnats“ means “kInats“. Clinking; http://beautycharmandstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/champagne_toast-268x300.jpg **** http://www.awa.dk/glosary/slainte.htm

ՔԱՑԱԽ No where in the book this subject is treated, at least I cannot find it. Vinegar In another post I posed the serious question if there in fact an Armenian word for “pickle”. I was not joking, neither am I now. Let me ask again. WHAT IS THE ARMENIAN WORD FOR PICKLE? Please don’t tell us it is “turshi”. That is a furko-Persian word meaning “sour”. What do Yerevanites call the “pickle”? Pickles. See how many fruits and vegetables you can identify in the following picture; http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KbcHLzKf0Ng/TFRNtCzURkI/AAAAAAAAANs/xKBo_gtBsLE/s1600/Blog+002.JPG Vinegar is when the wine making process goes awry and it turns to sour-vinegar.. We know that the Armenian word for vinegar is “քացախ/qatsakh”. I cannot find a convincing explanation of its origin or etymology, except when some will say “քացխել/քացախել/qatskhel” means “թթուել/ttvel” to mean to turn sour. Or, if you will, to leaven as in “թթխմոր/ttkhmor”. --- And, the most disgusting of all that I have not had the stomach to try pickled- pig- feet; http://afeatheradrift.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/pickled_pigs_feet.jpg

Dear Ashot, thank you for your response. I already said about "ttou" to mean "sour", it does not answer my question about "pickle" . Is the English word for "pickle" "sour"? Another English word for the process is "brine", salt water. Do we use "ԱՂ ՋՈՒՐ/agh jour"? As to "khiyar" UP THEIR.... NOSES!! That is an Arabic word. Some Armenians use that word as a mild insult to mean "stupid" as in "khikar".** Dear Ashot. No offence! As you can see I know that cursed language, in addition to Arabic and among others (some)Persian. Please allow me to repeat. What is the Armenian word for PICKLE? What did we call it 3000 years ago? ARENI?? ԹԹՈՒԱԾ?? That in time turned to ԹԹՈՒԱՇ? **BTW. The furks don't use that word in civilized circles, only in whisper, as it has evolved to mean a euphemism for a certain anatomical appendage. Instead they use "salatalugh". Search and see.

Please don't move this to under the "G" Topic. This is politics of National interest. As if we Armenians don't know any other G word, like "geo-politics"! --- Yes!! I Agree with John Hughes. Why are we even asking such silly questions to those dogs when we know what the answer will be???!!! Why do some of us still engage in so called dialogue/mialogue” with those qatsordis? Are they certified lxicographer/dictionarians to tell us the definition of “genocide”? Do you sincerely believe that those SSO’s really want a friendly Armenia”to stand between them and the rest of the turanic/turkic world? And, in accordance with John, why are we opening the world for them and affording them to repeat the same lies? I am so glad that our house G-ologists have been quiet of late, those who thought they could teach an old DOG new tricks, tame the rabid gnarling WOLF to act like a cute puppy. http://www.dogdoright.com/images/snarlingwolf_000.jpg http://dogpuppy.cn/dog/cute-puppy1.jpg ---- http://www.armenianow.com/genocide/27250/gul_denies_genocide_pacesession