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http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/nowruz.jpg http://www.armenianow.com/features/28417/armenia_nowruz_iranian_new_year (Please note that Navasard and Nowruz are not necessarily synonymous. The former means New Year while the latter means New Day)

CRUSADE # 2011? Of late, in the past couple of decades we have seen so many mini-crusades to save the mehmets from the ahmed depots You think those neo-crusaders would mind their own business like protecting Chris from Iblis.*** Քաքոտը շռանին է ծիծաղու՞մ? http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/crusade-8.jpg A picture of King/Pope Obama?; http://mattcredible.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/crusader-knight.gif Those ill conceived Crusades began in 1095 AD by the then Pope, ostensibly to liberate the Holy Land from the “ muslim infidels”. After 400 years of one defeat after another the whole operation was ended whereby those “infidels” not only took the entire region but totally cleansed it from those so called “christian knights”, to only facilitate the ottoman hegemony over the lands. Now, after over 1000 years we are witnessing a “new and improved ‘crusade‘ “, except this it is not to punish the infidel V the Christians, but to prevent a massacre of muslim V muslim. Who says that the west/Europe is obligated to prevent one dog eating another? Who is the modern “pope” to declare war on the “infidels”? Where are their muslim Arab brothers? Or are each of them sitting on potential fire? Remember that Saudia is massacring their kin and kith in Bahrain. Remember also the Saudia is majority Sunni and Bahrain is majority Shiite.** Why is that only the US, France and Britain are involved? Where are the other so called NATO Allies, particularly that so called “staunch NATO ally“ also known as furkey? --- In fact the following passages apply to both the “crusaders” and the “crusadies” Of course none of their ilk read the words of Jesus where He said; Yes, we know Kaddafi is a whore. Look what Jesus said; ----------------- What will be next? Bahrain, Yemen, Saudia, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and, and . Anyone see this story? **Bahrain is an island, a monarchy, a dynastic emirate of sorts, of 268 sq mi, smaller than NY City, 1/100 th the size of Armenia/ /20th of Artsakh with a population of about ½ million. Those “ayrabs”, they multiply like rats. Does circumcision “play” a part? Amot!!! Is ther some kind of symbolism here? http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/365152/2/istockphoto_365152_shame_on_you.jpg Btw. “Bahrain means (between) “two seas”, not unlike Mesopotamia/Միջագետք that means “between two rivers“. Hi Nairi! You already know that it is from Assryran” nahr=river”. The Arabic of “mesoptamia” is “bein nahrein=between two rivers”. بين النهرين At times the Egyptians call the Nile “nahr= river” and at other times they call it “bahr=sea”. It all depends where in Egypt one lives. At the south Aswan dam wher it is a riveror in the north Alexandria at the delta wherev it is a tributary of the Mediterranean. Have you seen this? http://www.businessinsider.com/syrian-protests-daraa-2011-3 BTW. Daraa aka Dera is a town south of Damascus near the border with Jordan. http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51747000/jpg/_51747257_011564802-1.jpg http://www.rttnews.com/Content/TopStories.aspx?Id=1579390&SM=1

I can't find an all inclusive site of Armenian Lullabies. -- Օրօր իմ բալաս; http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51YL0DsezmL._SS500_.jpg Watch this and the companion videos; This could as well be a picture of us. My granddaughter is madly in love with her daddy. Did I mention that sometime ago my daughter wanted to marry me? There seems to be an anthology of Armenian Lullabies by Hasmik Harutiunian, from many regions.(if incomplete) How about Kilikia, Aparan, Gavar, Javakh, Yerevan, Artsakh ** et al? The audio is very poor, yet; **In my book ՆՇԽԱՐՆԵՐ ԱՐՑԱԽԻ ԲԱՆԱՀԻՒՍԻՒԹԵԱՆ I have not yet found a site with their Armenian cradle songs. You mean to tell me that the Artsakhtsi mother did not sing lullabies? Where are all of our Artskahtsi friends? Are we so detached from our Native Culture? Or, are all those lullabies in the russki and boobjanski language? Of course they did like; Լենին քեռին եկել է, Դռան ետին կեցէլ է, Ստալինին հռել է: Լուռ կեցեք տղաքներ Տեսնենք ինչեր բերել է: http://www.emusic.com/album/Hasmik-Harutyunyan-with-the-Shoghaken-Ensemble-Armenian-Lullabies-MP3-Download/10867287.html

Wrong thread!

Here is another pretend little boy; Անափառ մը կար փոքրոկ Հազիւ վեց էր իր տարիք Օր մը ըսաւ ին միտքեն Մեծ պարոն մեմ ես արդէն Առաւ պապուն գաւազան Եւ եղբօրը մեծ կօշկան Եւ հօրը մեծ գլխարկին Մէջ թաղուեցաւ կիսովին http://www.stockphotopro.com/photo-thumbs-2/stockphotopro_62015YHT_no_title.jpg

It is not unlike the nursery rhyme in the Marash dialect Here it is amended and defurkified.** Ջոր, ջոր, ջոր ջուրիկ*** Աղջին մունենք անուշիկ Մեր աղջինը լուսնակիկ Հարսուկ կենինք մի օրիկ ** See #22 above. ***Ջոր= ջուր water. http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/91482/91482,1185258409,2/stock-photo-cute-toddler-boy-and-girl-dressed-like-bride-and-groom-the-groom-presenting-a-ring-to-the-bride-4088716.jpg Dear Nane, you did an excellent job readapting it, yet I did not see anything offensive or depressive about the original. It is a dream and a promise by a “թիզ ու կէս” to grow up and become a philanthropist. Reminds one Metsarents' ՀԻՒՂԸ Դաշտի ճամփու մը վըրան, կամ ըստորոտը լերան, ուղեւորին ժամանման ըսպասող հիւղն ըլլայի: Ու գգուանքով կանչէի ես ճամփորդներն անժաման, ու ճամփուն վրա մենաւոր, ու ճամփուն վրա ոսկեման, եկվորներուն դիմաւոր՝ ծըխանիս ծուխն ամպէի: --- Reminds me of another ditty about a “թիզ ու կէս”, this time a boy. Let me se if I remember it all, otherwise I will reconstruct some of it. Թզուկ Զինւոր Երբ որ ես մեծնամ ունենամ պեխեր Պիտի դառնամ ես զինւոր անվեհեր Հրացանն ուսիս մէջքիս թուրը կախ Պիտի ըլլամ ես հերոս մի անվախ Pretending all the above moves, stands up and pretends to march in parade style. Մէկ- կու- րեք- չորս, Մէկ- կու- րեք- չորս!! http://www.propsunlimited.com/pics/Christmas%20Toy%20Soldier.jpg http://www.propsunlimited.com/pics/Christmas%20Toy%20Soldier.jpg

It is a sad commentary that some of these are obituaries. Are there any live not-yet-so famous Armenians? Yet. Let us rejoice and celebrate his life of 105 years. He lived to the ripe old age of 105. Was his longevity due to his diet of garlic laden Aintab Lahmajun? http://www.armenianfood.com/lahmajun.jpg ---- http://poststar.com/lifestyles/announcements/obituaries/article_5ae4877a-951b-11df-94ff-001cc4c002e0.html

That is wonderful Nane. How sweet!! I don't know that song. Is there an audio/video of it? Let me sing to her too. Yes, I can sing. Ոսկի խաչ վըզիդ՝ քեզի պահապան, Նարօտ կապել է ծարէն տէրպապան՛ Օր-օր իմ պաալս, օր-օր ու նանի, Իմ անուշիկիս քունը կը տանի՛ Remember where we spoke about “թզուկt@zouk” that it is based on the Armenian word “ԹԻԶ/hand span “. http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/images/handspan.jpg

«Արտա´շ ջան, թրաշդ անո´ւշ էղնի»: ԵՂՆԻ ? When did the gumretsis start to speak Grabar? Like in ԵՂԻՑԻ ԿԱՄՔ ՔՈ/ Էղնի կամք քո? You Will notice that the letter Ե sounds like YE only in between two vowels, like when we say "Կողբա Ելան/koghba yelan", but it is pronounced as Է/E between two consonnants. "թրաշդ անո´ւշ էղնի" Listen to words and see where the Ե is pronounced as YEH and where as E/Է as in "goghba YELAN" and "al EGHNIM". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OZN8BJWzsc&feature=related http://www.armenianow.com/features/28380/armenia_gyumri_barber_shave http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/barber-gyumri.jpg Features | 18.03.11 | 16:03 TRASH? Do they speak English in Gumri? Please forgive me. That is one of the best/worst samples of rabiz/rubbish/trash talk. When will we learn to speak Armenian?? BTW. The word seems to of Persian origin as my dictionary does not qualify it as being furkish. تراش http://www.armenianow.com/features/28380/armenia_gyumri_barber_shave

Are swans native to Armenia? That book above does not even acknowledge them. I ied. Look. http://www.acopiancenter.am/boa.asp?id=77 http://www.acopiancenter.am/boa.asp?id=357 White swan; http://www.wallpaperbase.com/wallpapers/animals/swans/swan_6.jpg The Swan Lake in Yerevan before-winter; And after -spring; How come they are black? The Ugly Duckling by Hans Christian Anderson; http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Sillysymphonies-uglyducking1939.jpg

Muammar aliev V ilham Qaddafi They should be locked up in the same cell and rant all they want. Why is that one is labeled a terrorist and the other as a "saint". Thye both buy their wmd's with petroleum money. --- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367357/Libya-protests-World-backs-air-strikes-Gadaffi-UN-votes-protect-rebels.html

Speaking of which see this piece of trash. Why is it being aired, simply becuse it contains the word "zion"? http://asbarez.com/94200/local-pbs-to-air-%e2%80%98from-ararat-to-zion%e2%80%99-sunday/ EE Verin Yerusaghem??? http://www.rheinmain.haypedia.org/?page_id=576

Ապրէս դու Զարթօնք** Ծափիկ Ծափիկ Բարի զարթնում քեզ. Why is that very few of us are interested in such matters!! **I write in traditional orthography where ԱպրԷս turns to ԱպրԻս but ապրԵս does not.

At the risk of reviving an old thread… Let’s see if we have found more? My impression of Nairi’s thread was about rhymes and ditties played in “show and tell” for 2-3 year olds, who are just learning to speak orally or with hands.. And that is why most of my posts addressed that category for those under the age of 3 . Not like those over the age of 30 youth and teenage “lenin qeri” or "pionerner”, neither it is the likes of the adult song hnkalla/hoviv@ saroum tkhrets“ etc.. There so many mothers and grandmothers here. How do you speak to your 2 year old? Do you read them passages from Iliad or Odissey? Maybe Narek's Voghberganq/elegy/thanatology/funerary speach? My granddauaghter who is just learning to speak, she can speak better with her hands rather than her mouth, knows the meaning of “tsapik”, even if she can’t pronounce the word, she tries to put her hands together ծափիկ ծափիկ Did you know that ԾԱՓԻԿ /clapping is from the native word ԾԱՓ based on ԱՓ to mean palm (of the hand).** http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-K525Lx9KOBA/TVyIQ4B9UvI/AAAAAAAACE0/ZPFUkcuCqXQ/s1600/clapping-hands-lg1.jpg ** See Siamanto’s Ափ մը մոխիր Հայրենի տուն/A handful of ash my Ancestral Home.

A very interesting article written more than 3 years ago. We understand that there is a preamble and a follow up. Maybe some time we may find those too. The below highlighted passages.. The author asks…. “Why was this book written in the Russian language, not Armenian? Shall we assume that no one in Armenia is interested in the subject, or that we will scandalized by the revelations? The prevailing notion is that ‘we have come from here, from there and everywhere in between’ . The author asks ‘Why is there such little interest and research in Armenia, that the majority of Urartianists are foreigners whose main interest may be to separate Urartian from the Armenian, to find links to the Caucasian languages, and Aramazt forbid. to the furkic. And now we are brgging those foreigners to tell us about ourselves. This whole thing began during soviet times, where all school books would tell us that the Urartian is some kind of a Cuacasian language. http://www.armtown.com/news/am/has/20071122/206967869/

http://www.armenianow.com/economy/business/28273/armenia_karabakh_flight Look closely at the picture. It depicts a bird in flight http://www.armenianow.com/sites/default/files/img/imagecache/600x400/NKR-stepanakert_airport.jpg And elsewhere we read this; "Azerbaijan Threatens To Shoot Down *ara*akh Planes" Yeah!! Sure!! Helicopters have been flying between Yerevan and Stepanakert a hundred times a day for at least 20 years. Here is the babooni air force http://www.gattiart.com/Prints/Red_Baron/Red_BaronStrikes_DSc.jpg and this is their ace pilot, ali-snoopy the red baron. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cc/Snoopy_wwi_ace_lb.jpg

Who said "History Repeats Itself"? And those who don't learn will repeatedly LOSE! ---- Today March 16, 2011 is the 90th anniversary of that infamous so called treaty of Moscow. How cynical can they be? Today a delegation from that non-country is in Moscow for more “treaties“. Despite the insistence of both parties that the date is only coincidental. Yeah right!! So, what else is new? Is this a convocation of the liars’ club? Which is the bigger liar? Moscow or ankaga? Remember that our naïve so called diplomats signed on the dotted line of that so called proctocols, Which is a nezw version of the Moscow and Kars "treaties" without understanding even one word of it. To only wake up the next morning and realize that it was just a nasty nightmare. Those rag merchants have been selling and buying Armenia for millennia, rightfully so since we act as if a piece of RAG. The Persian word for “rag” is “parcha” , and the Armenian is “քուրջ/qourj”. (Հին ու մին շորի անպէտ կտոր, ցնցոտի ) http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/society/news/64282/Treaty_of_Moscow_signed_90_years_ago_contradicts_all_laws -----

David Ignatius http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/David_ignatius.jpg Yet another little known partially discovered Armenian. Among the many works listed below, there is no mention of one of his first docudrama which was my first discovery of him, the semi-documentary 1991 novel SIRO The action takes place mainly from Boston to Nakhjivan which in those days very few knew about. It is full of action and intrigue, and yes SEX , between Aram and… Shamiram?? Actually Anna Barnes of thr CIA. Not to forget that on page 40 he talks about the massacres at “kahramanmaras” I.e. Marash. Were his ancestors of Marashtsi heritage? Let’s ask him. I am sure that his family name was originally Iknatiosian. (Please google and see how many respond to a variety of the spellings.) http://www.amazon.com/Siro-David-Ignatius/dp/0374265062 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/0374265062/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ignatius Of course, we cannot talk about David without mentioning his father Paul Robert Ignatius…** http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Robert_Ignatius **He was born in Glendale. Do our friends in Glendale know about him? See the connection to the Washington Post.

They're coming out of the woodworks, literally . Balakian et al, and now this. As promised here is another yet to be famous Armenian.. The article below needs no interpretation, however I would like to point out a couple highlights. The fact that he was born in Florida and lives and practices law in the capital city Talahassee, and is involved in local and national politics. Yet the most interesting part is that he a is a fifth generation American Armenian, that his ancestors immigrated 200 years ago., and after all those years he still has an Armenian sounding surname. One wonders if his family name is modified and abbreviated? ------ http://www.reporter.am/go/article/2011-03-15-mark-mustian-rediscovers-the-armenian-feeling-within © 2011 Armenian Reporter

I didn't understand even one word of the above Boghos, are you speaking narnjeren,portugaleren/portugese? Odly enough. Some Arabs calle that fruit "brtqan" as there is neither P or G in their script.

See #54 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18194&st=40 Dear Ani. We love you. Please don’t be offended, but you need to find other so called “linguists”. Do I understand correctly that in the beginning of a sentence it isԵվ. Btw it is not ԵՎ it is ԵՒ And in the inside it is և, I don’t even know where that key is, and I could care less. Is it like saying when writing in English we type AND at the beginning of a sentence , and we use this symbol (ampersand) & within? Yes we do. But in formal writing? Speaking of rabizisation of the language!! We need real linguists. Like in texting** we write “? R U” to mean “how are you”? **A whole another subject. The Aremenian word for "kapakctyun" is "շաղկապ/shaghkap" as the English "conjunction".

DDT I don't intend to trivialize the issue as the topic of this thread is GOOD NEWS. Ever since the book Silent Spring by Rachel Carson in 1962 the chemical was banned universally. DDT? Who is still manufacturing it? See the rest here; Btw. What is the Armenian word for “pesticide”? From the Armenian version… Թունաքիմիկատ--Literally- Toxic Chemical? http://hetq.am/en/ecology/toxin/ --- --- Are we silencing all the birds, the "sokhaks" and "blbuls"** and drowning all the fish, even that "prince of all fish" Ishkhan? http://img1.photographersdirect.com/img/15747/wm/pd767459.jpg http://img1.photographersdirect.com/img/15747/wm/pd767459.jpg **The Persian dictionary days "blbul" is Nightingale/Canary Nightingale-Lark;*** http://www.rspb.org.uk/images/cache/nightingale_300_tcm9-142341_v1.jpg Canary-Blbul; http://www.americansingercanary.com/yellow%20canary%202.jpg *** This is confusing. So what else is new? Some say Սոխակ/Sokhak is Robin and others... Nightingale.

The Japanese earthquake is an open textbook. Specially the aftermath and the secondary potential collateral damages, particularly the impending nuclear meltdown. Is the world learning a lesson, in particular, is Armenia learning a lesson? It is a sad irony that the highest high-tech facility is being jeopardized by the lowest low-tech component like the water pumps, which paradoxically run on electricity generated by the complex, the chicken and egg paradox! I just heard that the backup generators had taken over the process, which in turn were knocked out by the tsunami. Once again. What is the world learning, and in particular what is the ANPP at Metsamor learning from this tragic story? http://www.reporter.am/images/StandardImage/npp-metsamor.jpg Edit. Since I wrote the above see this from AZG Pay special attention to the last paragraph in bold. http://www.azg.am/AM/2011031502 Note where he says- Why worry? The Land is being evacuated as is with or without a nuclear disaster. http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/What-me-worry.jpg http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/What-me-worry.jpg

To not trivialize the major catastrophe in Japan. The number of casualties keeps climbing by the minute. With all the science and earthquake proof structural and architectural science.. The old adage of “You can’t fool Mother Nature” comes to mind. With all the stories of structural damage, impending nuclear meltdown etc., seems like the most damage was caused by the “TSUNAMI”. Curiously, that is a Japanese word. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10567&st=20&p=130282&hl=tsunami&fromsearch=1entry130282

Please pardon me. This may not belong here under this most serious and tragic subject. Perhaps I should air this under the topic Mythology. Has the number 25 replaced the number 40 (qarsun) to mean many, many? After almost 25 years since that most tragic Natural Disaster (man made in most parts), we still don’t know the exact numbers. Wherever one looks the number of casualties of the Earthquake is cited as 25,000 (frozen in time). Not to forget that Artsakh war casualties are also listed as 25,000. ** Just like that other mythical number of the population of Armenia frozen at 3.2 million. Can we speak like adults instead of playing in a SAND-lot? Is there an itemized list of the victims of the Earthquake, listing names, surnames and places? Where are those 25,000 buried? Can we count their graves? Is the number 25 the new mythical magic number to replace 40? Seriously. Can we have real numbers instead of those mythically magic numbers of 40 and 25? WHY DO SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT THE WORLD IS A BIG KINDERGRTEN of Show and Tell? ** Not to forget that those others insist that there are one million, count them one million refugees and displaced people. At best they are behind times, they may not have heard that the number million, with letter M has no meaning anymore as the smallest village speaks about their budget in terms of billions, with letter B. Where is Carl Sagan, the author of the term “bullions and bullions”?*** *** This is from wiki-mickey mouse media. I have no idea who is saying what.