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Let us reread this thread http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=14306&hl=ararta

Yes, I am an skeptic and a cynical SOB. No, I am not saying to forget the past, but everything should be in its own perspective. If I remember my elementary psychology class, one of the concepts is Sublimation, which can be best pictured by that vulgar cliche- Those who cannot, are afraid to beat the donkey hit the saddle instead. You may have noticed that I have not responded to items about churches in Bangladesh, Shanghai etc. When I did it was, as you put it, in a skeptic and cynical mode. I dont regret it. The only few times I responded in a positive way was when Liz Chater (where is she?)wrote about the Armenians in India. No, I am not saying to forget the past, but let us look at the present and the future. We keep talking about the empty skeletons of ruined churches in the west and the east when at this rate of emigration the Churches in Armenia will be mere empty ruined skeletons in a very short time. I have been in Yerevan 5 times, and every time I have cried at the sight of those magnificent structures, which shortly will become a pile of dust just like those in Ani. Yes please, let us beat the saddle , talk about the skeletal ruins of so called churches in Myanmar, let us send those in Yerevan dollars so they can buy airline tickets and watch they can pack up their bags and move to Bangladesh.

ԱղթաՄԱՅՐԻց հեռացանք: Միայն Միանմար մնաց? We need to speak about Zangenzur, not Zululand. ---- Միայն թէՄայրըս Վիշտըս չիմանա . http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?v=9WeNqsiNHBw

ԵՍ ԻՄ ԱՆՈՒՇ ԱՐՑԱԽ/ՀԱՅԱՍՏԱՆԻ ԱՐԵՒԱՀԱՄ ԲԱՐՆ ԵՄ ՍԻՐՈՒՄ I LOVE THE SUN-SWEET FRUIT/HARVEST OF ARTSAKH/HAYASTAN. ԱՐՑԱԽԻ ԲԱՐԻ ԲԱՐ** GOOD HARVEST OF ARTSAKH ԲԱՐԻ ԱԽՈՐԺԱԿ BON APPETIT The feature photo of the woman surrounded with Eggplants Smbouk ՍՄԲՈՒԿ. Plzease, not bademjan, pateljan or baderjan., whatever the hell JAN. http://hetq.am/eng/news/56225/photo-story-russia-is-largest-market-for-artsakh-fruit-and-vegetables.html Photo Story: Russia is Largest Market for Artsakh Fruit and Vegetables 12:55, 27 August, 2014 Russia is the largest market for the goods produced by the Republic of Nagorno-Karabakh's Artsakh Fruit CJSC. Apart from the local, Artsakh market, since its founding in 2008, the company's goods have been exported to France, Hungary, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, and Dubai. Upon entering Artsakh Fruit's Stepanakert factory, one doesn't manage to recover from the outdoor August heat, as striking your face is the wave of hot air from ovens more scorching than the sun, leaving behind the sweet aroma of cooked, barbecued, and fried vegetables and fruit that whets your appetite. The women in pink uniforms first sort then skillfully clean, cut, and process the vegetables and fruit, which results in the company manufacturing 2830 types of products per year. Whoever comes to this factory at least once will recognize 84-year-old Ella Martirosyan, who has been working at Artsakh Fruit for 7 years. Though her eyesight is poor, she peels several cases of onions and garlic per day. Speaking to Hetq, the company's head of production, chief technologist KarineHakobyan, said that around 100 workers. 95 of whom are women, including pensioners, currently work in the factory. "As soon as the season opens, we increase the number of employees, while in the winter months, depending on the orders, we leave 2025 employees of our old staff," Hakobyan explains. Salaries are paid according to the work done; that is, by piece work. Furthermore, the salaries of those working after work hours (after 6 pm) increase by 1520%. Hakobyan explains that the most difficult work is done by those working after 6 pm. A teacher by profession, MelanyaBabayan often stays until 9 pm. Asked if she doesn't get tired, Babayan, showing the varicose veins on her legs, confesses, "Of course I get tired, but what other choice do I have? I'm raising 3 children on my own and I need the money. It's impossible to meet the needs of 4 people on a teacher's salary. For four years I've been earning my daily bread with seasonal work here." Despite the difficulty of the work, Babayan doesn't complain. Moreover, she's happy that at least she has this; otherwise, it would be impossible to survive in this climate of daily increasing prices. In the half-hour period during which Hetq was photographing the factory, vehicles loaded with vegetables were unloading one after another. Asked whether all the produce was local, Hakobyan said that preference is given to the local, but first, it's not always that local producers are able to provide the necessary quantity and second, there are types of produce, such as apricots, that Armenia exports. The picture is different in the case of the consumer market. [gallery id=166] http://hetq.am/arm/news/56225/arcakhyan-artadranqi-amenamets-shukan-rusastann-e-fotopatmutyun.html **Never mind those who say Charents wrote ԲԱՌ . Do we know Armenian? Do those so called linguists, be it in Yerevan/HayVostan or Boston, know the difference between ԲԱՐ/FRUIT/ HARVEST and ԲԱՌ/WORD. ? Charents did, so did Komitas. They knew the Armenian Language. I am not sure about the interpreters and translators , the likes of DDH whose knowledge of the language seems to be limited to the Kitchen. Yekour, nstir, dolma yev basturma ker. Only those whose knowledge of Armrnian is limited to the kitchen the likes of DDH **** will translate it as ]b]Sun Baked WORD. DUH!!! Let us see what Komitas Says about it. See the lyrics in full here; http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=12428 Ծիրանի' ծառ, ԲԱՐ մի' տա, վա՜յ, Ճըգղերդ իրար մի' տա, վա՜յ....Բաղ ունիմ ու ԲԱՐ չունիմ *** ***I have orchard but no FRUIT. **** http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=18633&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=248833 PS. Why was that fruit/vegetable called EggPlant? http://www.plant-world-seeds.com/images/seed_images/JAPANESE_WHITE_EGG/size3_500x500/JAPNESE%20WHITE%20EGG%201.JPG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggplant

See the full story with pictures here; http://hetq.am/eng/news/56220/the-armenians-of-present-day-sebastia-finding-at-least-one-armenian-in-each-village.html . === The Armenian version. http://hetq.am/arm/news/56220/sebastiayi-hayery-mek-hay-yuraqanchyur-gyuxum.html See what we said above about Sebastia, that it was known as Gabira before the Roman times. See what Ali said here at #3 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1554&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=14855 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=1554

ԾՈՒՌ ՆՍՏԻՆՔ ՇԻՏԱԿ ԽՕՍԻՆՔ Or, is it ՇԻՏԱԿ ՆՍՏԻՆՔ ԾՈՒՌ ԽՕՍԻՆՔ ԳՆԱ ՄԵՌԻՐ ԱՐԻ ՍԻՐԵՄ What abunch of hypocrites we are! Zabel, after so many sojourns all the way from Polis to Paris, finally saw the light of lenin, so to speak and moved to Soviet Armenia where she became a member of the Writers Union. And see what happened to her when she was accused of being nationalistic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zabel_Yesayan Where is her remains buried? Next to Bakunts, Charents and others? Blelow it says she (was) drowned. Do they mean strangled? [quoteIn 1933 she decided to settle in Soviet Armenia with her children, and in 1934 she took part in the first Soviet Writers' Union congress in Moscow. She taught French and Armenian literature at Yerevan State University and continued to write prolifically. To this period belong the novella Shirt of Fire (Կրակէ շապիկ, Yerevan, 1934; translated into Russian in 1936), and her autobiographical book The Gardens of Silihdar ** (Սիլիհտարի պարտէզները, Yerevan, 1935; translated into English in 2014). During the Great Purge she was abruptly accused of "nationalism" and arrested in 1937. She died in unknown circumstances: there is speculation that she was drowned and died in exile, possibly in Siberia, sometime in 1943 **Is silihdar a variation of silahdar- gun bearer? Much like bayrakdar- flag bearer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erdoğan_Bayraktar

Dear Yervant and other mods and ads . If you deem this to be off topic, please hide or delete it. We may debate it under another topic, like turkchur. kulchur ---- Wonder if the Good Monk, the Finnish Rev. Fr Serafim Seppälä knows this? http://ylex.yle.fi/sites/ylex.yle.fi/files/imagecache/gs_5col/images/Serafim_Seppala_1.JPG http://ylex.yle.fi/sites/ylex.yle.fi/files/imagecache/gs_5col/images/Serafim_Seppala_1.JPG === Sometime ago I saw somewhere that some monkeys (see monkey wrench below) had suggested that the Finnish and furkish languages are of the same Ugric languages family.. I was surprised to learn that the Finnish, Estonian and Hungarian of the same family. Sadly, that monkey business is still alive and debated. === Among many, here is one that deals with the subject. http://linguistlist.org/ask-ling/message-details1.cfm?asklingid=200301263 The question. ==== The answer. === ==== The politics.

I WISH WE AND THEY WOULD STOP REFERRING TO THAT ARMENIAN REPUBLIC OF ARTSAKH BY ITS FURKISH NAME ==== http://www.gagrule.net/karabakh-willing-accept-territory-yezidis-refugees/ ==== http://news.am/eng/news/224790.html === http://asbarez.com/126102/armenian-yazidis-blame-erdogan-for-genocide-of-iraqi-kin/ ** Please note how they spell it as YAZIDI. In the Book Zoroastrianism in Armenia by James Russel, we see YAZT/YAZATA/on numerous times. It is suggested that the Armenian word AZAT/AZAD is derived from it, loosely meaning FREE, which in fact means without human parentage/(zadeh). See Persian surnames like Sarrafi***zadeh, i.e born of a moneychanger ***Arabic. Hi Ara SARAFan - **** Dies he know that his surname means money changer loumayapokh լումայա փոխ ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ara_Sarafian ****To not confuse wirth SAFARian , (those other dogs spell it as sefer. another Arabic word to mean voyage/trip. http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Նվեր_Սաֆարյան

I knew there was a song Maratouk Bardzr Sarin. I couldnt find in time. Մէաթուկ Բարյր սարի Հա Ձիւն ա կիուել կատարին Հա ---- Խորոտիկ մորոտիկ իմ սէրն է Մէկ հատիկ է խումար է https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNILbkjsrhw

ՄԱՐՈՒԹԱ ՄԱՐԱԹՈՒԿ MAROUTA MARATOUK Hi Harut Marut-ian. http://www.yerakouyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/maratug.jpg http://www.yerakouyn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/maratug.jpg http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=61546 ---- I have no idea what those dogs call the Sacred Mountain, neither do I know why the Mountain was named Maratiouk. Just like they call Aghori Ler aghri dagh. http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Մարաթուկ --- http://www.musicofarmenia.com/երգ-երգոց-մարաթուկ-ազգագրական-համույթ ----- See also this. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=23313&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=263141

VERRY INTERRESTING Little known facts about the Yezidis. ==== http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/91582178.jpg ZotoAster aka Zarathustra http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/91582178.jpg http://nypost.com/2014/08/17/why-some-muslims-want-to-destroy-the-yazidis-by-genocide/ Why some Muslims want to destroy the Yazidis by genocide By Amir TaheriModal Trigger Displaced Yazidis re-enter Iraq from Syria on August 14thPhoto: Reuters To hear President Obama tell it, one might think that recent bombing raids by the US against jihadist positions between Mosul and Erbil in northern Iraq have already removed the threat of extermination posed against the Yazidis, a religious minority driven out of its ancestral home by the Islamic State of self-styled Caliph Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Displaced Yazidis cross the Iraqi-Syrian border at the Fishkhabur crossing in northern Iraq.Photo: Getty Images However, several Yazidi spokesmen reached over the past few days insist that tens of thousands of people are still facing extermination and on Friday, 80 Yazidis were massacred by IS fighters. Our people are dying of hunger, thirst and disease, says Magdi al-Yazidi. Those who have not left their homes are prisoners in their besieged villages around el-Qush and Shaikhan. They are simply coming to realize and old dream of fanatical Islamic rulers: wiping our community off the face of the earth. It is not only in Iraq that the army of the Caliph Abu Bakr is positioning itself for the final solution to the Yazidis. The community is also facing extermination in parts of Syria, notably in Ras al-Ayn and Hessak. The Islamic State self-styled Caliph Abu Bakr al-BaghdadiPhoto: AP It has always been a dream of Islamic rulers to wipe us out, Emir Muawwyyah bin Ismail, the leader of the Yazidis, told me back in the 1980s when he was forced into exile by Saddam Hussein. The Emir had ended up in Paris after a long trek out of Iraq through Syria. Hussein had given him a choice between death and exile after the Emir issued a statement banning Yazidis from joining the despots army for a war against Iran. After an initial meeting with the Emir, I managed to persuade him to speak about his community, its history and the Yazidi faith. He did, thus ending almost 15 centuries of esoteric tradition under which Yazidis pretended to be some sort of Muslims. The pretension was necessary to avoid genocide, he told me. Our conversations lasted over some six months and resulted in a book published under the title To Us Spoke Zarathustra. A portrait of the prophet Zoroaster, founder of Zoroastrianism, a monotheistic religion that was the dominant religion in Persia before the Arab conquest.Photo: Getty Image [/b]As far as fanatical Muslims are concerned, Yazidis must be classified among the heathen because they do not belong to any of the three Abraham **religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Under Islamic rules, Jews and Christians are regarded as people of the book and thus could live among Muslims provided they pay a protection fee known as dhimma. Even if they wanted to, Yazidis cannot make use of that provision because they regard themselves as followers of Zoroaster, a prophet of ancient Iranian peoples who preached around 700 BC.[/b] --- **So, now we are abrahanic? Who the hell is Abraham? Hi Gamo : I thought our ancestor was Apricot Haik, Hayik, Hayik Tsiranik not abraham? ** --- The belief system starts with the assertion that there is but one God, variously known as Izad, Yazdan or Xweda (Khoda in Persian). Their one God shares the basic traits of Ahura-Mazda, the Wise God of Zoroaster. It is Ahura-Mazda who decided that a world should be created. But he subcontracts the task to a demiurge figure known as Tavous Malek (The Peacock Angel) who, assisted by six other angels each representing an aspect of natural life, shape the world as man knows it. As might have been expected, the sub-contractors, not having Gods divine infallibility, make some mistakes which leads to the emergence of evil in the world. The Faravahar, a popular symbol of Zoroastrianism.Photo: Getty Images In that context, the Good God needs the help of human beings to fight evil in a series of three battles, at the end of which the fate of the universe is decided forever. Thus, the Yazidis faith is the only religion in which God needs help from human beings, a concept that scandalizes fanatical Muslims who regard Allah as omnipotent and infallible. The Yazidi god can enter into a conversation with man; Allah cannot. Man could help god by becoming truly human, Yazidis assert. According to one of their proverbs: Just as the best sword is the sharpest, the best man is the most human. A view of the Bajed Kadal refugee camp, south west of Dohuk, Iraq where displaced Yazidis are staying after fleeing the violence of Islamic State fighters.Photo: Reuters A peaceful people opposed to violence and bloodshed, Yazidis believe that no cause is worth killing people for, something that scandalizes fanatical Muslims who regard the spread of The Only True Faith by sword as a duty and the man who does it as the Ghazi (Holy Warrior) who is assured a place in paradise. Displaced Yazidis travel towards the Syrian border.Photo: Reuters The Yazidis tradition of equality between men and women, including the rejection of polygamy, also scandalizes their fanatical Muslim neighbors. Kurdish Peshmerga forces hand out water bottles to Yazidis as they cross the Iraqi-Syrian border.Photo: Getty Images Arab Sunnis also hate Yazidis because of their language, a variety of Kurdish, itself one of the 18 Iranic languages still alive in Western Asia. The Yazidis claim to be the oldest religious community with a continuous existence in its own land. That may well be the case, at least as far as he estimated 600,000 Yazidis who live in Iraq are concerned. There are a further 1.8 million Yazidis in Syria, Turkey, Iran and Transcaucasia not to mention almost a million others in exile in more than 50 countries across the globe. Iraq has always been a mosaic of peoples and faith. Six decades ago, 20% of Baghdads population consisted of Jews. Today there are only six Jews in the whole of Iraq. The Armenia community has shrunk by almost 90% while other Christian communities are also shrinking. Caliph Abu Bakr s dream is to have an Iraq empty of all non-Muslims so that he could embark on his second phase of his purification by organizing genocide against Shiites regarded as deviant Muslims. The Caliph dreams of a hecatomb in Iraq. He must be stopped. **So, now we are abrahanic? Who the hell is abraham? Hi Gamo : I thought our ancestor was Apricotic Haik, not abraham. It is Hayik, Hayik Tsiranik? Haik- http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Hayk_statue.JPG abraham/avram, whoever the abrectam he may be.- http://www.hiloicc.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Abraham.jpg

Aleppo's Christians in Syrian crossfire (Please note. For whatever reason there is no mention of the Christian Armenians of Aleppo. Yes there is. See the sad picture of Sb. Gevorg Church in Nor Giugh). http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02846/aleppo-church-syri_2846515b.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02846/aleppo-church-syri_2846515b.jpg The Catholic Church mentioned below. https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7271/7646036812_3d430d2d8e.jpg http://qenshrin.net/church/photos/syria/aleppo/cross_a.jpg Aleppo's Christians in Syrian crossfire (Please note. For whatever reason there is no mention of the Christian Armenians of Aleppo. Yes there is. See the sad picture of Sb. Gevorg Church in Nor Giugh). http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02846/aleppo-church-syri_2846515b.jpg http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02846/aleppo-church-syri_2846515b.jpg The Catholic Church mentioned below. https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7271/7646036812_3d430d2d8e.jpg http://qenshrin.net/church/photos/syria/aleppo/cross_a.jpg See the full article here; http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/08/aleppo-christians-iran-iraq-arsal-netanyahu-gulf-states.html ==== === WEHERE ARE THE CRUSADER-ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS** The Pope, the Catholicoi and the Maronite/Syriac patriarchs.? http://www.medievalweaponinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/shiled.jpg http://www.almaridesign.com/image.php/199_IMG_75041.jpg?width=660&height=600&image=/picture_library/sgallery/original/199_IMG_75041.jpg ** Օն~!! փրկչին զինուորներ, Օն յառաջ ի մարտ…*** ***I will talk about the Armenian translator of the hymn under another cover. Hint. See the Book MARASH by Grigor Galoustian 1. Onward, Christian soldiers! Marching as to war, With the cross of Jesus Going on before. Christ, the royal Master, Leads against the foe; Forward into battle, See his banners go! 2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee; On, then, Christian soldiers, On to victory. Hell's foundations quiver At the shout of praise; Brothers, lift your voices, Loud your anthems raise. 3. Like a mighty army Moves the Church of God; Brothers, we are treading Where the Saints have trod. We are not divided; All one body we: One in hope and doctrine, One in charity. 4. Onward, then, ye people; Join our happy throng. Blend with ours your voices In the triumph song: Glory, laud, and honor Unto Christ, the King. This through countless ages Men and angels sing. See the full article here; http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/08/aleppo-christians-iran-iraq-arsal-netanyahu-gulf-states.html ==== === WEHERE ARE THE CRUSADER-ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS** The Pope, the Catholicoi and the Maronite/Syriac patriarchs.? http://www.medievalweaponinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/shiled.jpg http://www.almaridesign.com/image.php/199_IMG_75041.jpg?width=660&height=600&image=/picture_library/sgallery/original/199_IMG_75041.jpg ** Օն~!! փրկչին զինուորներ, Օն յառաջ ի մարտ*** ***I will talk about the Armenian translator of the hymn under another cover. Hint. See the Book MARASH by Grigor Galoustian 1. Onward, Christian soldiers! Marching as to war, With the cross of Jesus Going on before. Christ, the royal Master, Leads against the foe; Forward into battle, See his banners go! 2. At the sign of triumph Satan's host doth flee; On, then, Christian soldiers, On to victory. Hell's foundations quiver At the shout of praise; Brothers, lift your voices, Loud your anthems raise. 3. Like a mighty army Moves the Church of God; Brothers, we are treading Where the Saints have trod. We are not divided; All one body we: One in hope and doctrine, One in charity. 4. Onward, then, ye people; Join our happy throng. Blend with ours your voices In the triumph song: Glory, laud, and honor Unto Christ, the King. This through countless ages Men and angels sing.

See how they spell the name of those mountains SHINGALL that other sources spell as SINJAR. http://www.beyondbordersphotography.com/p579203267 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinjar http://hetq.am/eng/news/56091/yezidis-march-in-yerevan-in-solidarity-with-their-compatriots-in-iraq.html ==== In Armenian.; http://hetq.am/arm/news/56091/ezdineri-boxoqi-erty-i-pashtpanutyun-iraqum-ochnchacvox-irenc-hayrenakicneri-lusankarner.html === Related. http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=61335 An update. Yerevan has not delivered as promised. http://hetq.am/eng/news/56105/yezidi-community-rep-armenian-government-hasnt-transferred-the-$50k-in-promised-humanitarian-aid-to-iraq.html

These are good news. Thank you Mos. About time ! Beats placing one stone over another, building so called empty churches all the way from Alabama to Zululand and calling them Cathedrals.** ** In the Armenian a Cathedral is known as Կաթողիկէ, առաջնորդանիստ, կաթողիկոսանիստ , (C[k]atholic -oss?) Seat of the Bishop. Alternately known as ՏԱՃԱՐ/Tajar. An altogether different subject, as that word means temple, ie. a place of pagan worship.

ARMENIAN FURKS, or FURKISH ARMENIANS? See what Pres. Sargisian said. It would be even more insulting if he in fact were Armenian.. A quote from below. See what that er-DOG-an says. See also this where that other clownish dog dav-IT-oglu says that today-s so called Armenian Diaspora is in fact furkish . http://www.turkishnews.com/en/content/2014/04/30/armenians-should-thank-erdogan-for-not-recognizing-the-genocide/ http://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2014/08/12/erdogan-lets-rise-above-rifts-build-a-new-future ERDOĞAN: LET'S RISE ABOVE RIFTS, BUILD A NEW FUTURE ==== Speaking of insults, calling an Armenian a furk. .Not an isolated case. See #4 here http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=56171&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=312267

Lest we think calling a furk ermeni, or having an ermeni mother Is a compliment, think again. Just like some of us take pride in our contributions to the ottoman culture and history. This is not a new phenomenon. It goes back over a 100 years, when that butcher hamid was called ermeni bedros. Sadly, some of us fall for it, take to heart and spread it as the truth. Just like some will say that that DOG is of Georgian, Laz, even Hamshen or some other non-furk. See that dog (bedros) here and why he was called so. Here are some pictures of that SOT butcher. That garbage rumor was spread, just like now by his own ilk the young furks to embarrass him and start a revolution..They did. What did we get? The BIG G of 1915 followed by kakafurk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abdul_Hamid_II_BNF_Gallica.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d0/No_3911_Page_162.,_Le_sultan_d'etron'e_Abdul-Hamid.jpg http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=53171 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=26734 See the picture of that er-DOG-an above..

In that non-language calling one an ermeni, or ones mother was ermeni is tantamount to calling one son of a whore, orusbi oghlu, just as in the Arabic Ibnil sharmuta. ebnil sharmuta Arabic and means : Son of a whore You ebnil, abou, akhou Sharmuta! يا ابن لشرموط (ya ibn alsharmoota) - you son of a whore It is like in the Armenian calling one ԲՈԶՈՐԴԻ- SOW, ՊՈՌՆԿՈՐԴԻ-SOW, ՔԱԾՈՐԴԻ- SOB Or better yet SSO- ՇՈՒՆ ՇԱՆՈՐԴԻ --- er -DOG-an, that dog face. http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg

In that non-language calling one an ermeni, or ones mother was ermeni is tantamount to calling one son of a whore, orusbi oghlu, just as in the Arabic Ibnil sharmuta. ebnil sharmuta Arabic and means Son of a whore You ebnil, abou, akhou Sharmuta! يا ابن الشرموطة (ya ibn alsharmoota) - you son of a whore It is like in the Armenian calling one ԲՈԶՈՐԴԻ- SOW, ՊՈՌՆԿՈՐԴԻ-SOW, ՔԱԾՈՐԴԻ- SOB Or better yet SSO- ՇՈՒՆ ՇԱՆՈՐԴԻ --- er -DOG-an, that dog face. http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg http://www.stuckism.com/Dickinson/GoodBoy500.jpg

Not so good news. http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/57427087/Kohar+Symphony+Orchestra++Choir+Maestro+Sebouh+Abcarian+at+the.jpg Below it says he was born in Cyprus. Wrong! He was born in Aleppo.** His Father Levon was our long time phys-ed teacher just as his mother, a phys-ed teacher at Girl -s schools. He attended the Melkonian Institute in Cyprus. I never got to know him but I did know his sister Knarik who .tried so hard to become a ballet dancer. ** http://www.artsakank.com.cy/am/news/interview/2009/interview-sabouh-apkarian http://www.artsakank.com.cy/am/news/interview/2009/interview-sabouh-apkarian === http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=60880 Below it say he was born in Cyprus. Wrong! He was born in Aleppo. He attended the Melkonian Institute in Cyprus. ==== http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=60875

From the operetta KARINRH by Tigran Chukayan . Please no JI. One of the better renditions. Who will translate the below lyrics to English? https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=399103780157186 Քաջ Վարդանի զավակներն ենք Մենք Քաջ տոհմի զաւակներ ենք, չենք վախի, Մանրմունր փորձանքներից չենք փախչի, Մենք դեռ փոքրուց միշտ սիրել ենք քաջութիւն, Ինչ էլ որ լինի՝ չենք հանդուրժի պարտութիւն։ Ուրեմն յառաջ, զարկենք թմբուկ յաղթական, Տանք թշնամուն՝ մենք ծեծ ու ջարդ պատուական, Թող իմանան, մենք չենք դառնայ խաղալիք, Այնպէս պիտ ծեծենք որ յիշեն Հօր հարսանիք։ Մեր պապերն եղել են քաջերից քաջը, Անարգել են կայծակների շառաչը. Մենք էլ նրանց զաւակներն ենք հարազատ, Էլ ուրիշ ժառանք չկա՛յ, չկա՛յ՝ մեզնից զատ։ Ուրեմն յառաջ, զարկենք թմբուկ յաղթական, Տանք թշնամուն՝ մենք ծեծ ու ջարդ պատուական, Թող իմանան, մենք չենք դառնայ խաղալիք, Այնպէս պիտ ծեծենք որ յիշեն Հօր հարսանիք։ PLEASE MR SATAMIAN, IT IS KARINEH, NOT LEBLEBIJI!!! ԽԱՐԿԱԾ ՍԻՍԵՌ http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=28648&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=272952 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeblebI http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=60875 To not forget that the Armenian SISER is the as the Roman CICERO/ chichero/chico who was named so for his dminutive stature. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Cicero

Muslim Armenians? Below we read that the Ministry of Diaspora has held a session with Islamized Armenians, inviting them to COME HOME ԱՐԻ ՏՈՒՆ. DEAR MS HRANOUSH, HOW ABOUT YOU RE-INVITE THOSE 2 MILLION THAT HAVE ABANDONED SHIP AND EMIGRATED SINCE THE ADVENT OF THE SO CALLED INDPENENDENCE. HOW ABOUT THOSE RATS ABANDONING SHIP? http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/files/legacy/warren%20cartoon%20rats.jpg WHO REPLACES THOSE RATS WHO ABANDON SHIP AND SEARCH GREENER PASTURES IN OTHER SHORES? http://hetq.am/eng/news/55918/greener-shores-the-travails-of-armenians-seeking-refuge-in-france.html http://www.yerakouyn.com/?p=60824

Օձ Վզնոց? http://www.strangeoldepictures.com/images/content/153201.jpg Believe it or Not! Boa necklace, Օձ Վզնոց? ===

Related to Areni, here is Zorah winery http://asbarez.com/125581/armenia-fund-in-vino-veritas/ http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2014/08/4.jpg http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2014/08/5.jpg http://asbarez.com/App/Asbarez/eng/2014/08/7.jpg ==== Amphora http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphora ԿԱՐԱՍ Karas http://hy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Կարաս

ARENI http://new.praguepost.com/images/food_restaurants/armenian-wine.jpg http://new.praguepost.com/images/food_restaurants/armenian-wine.jpg http://new.praguepost.com/food-and-drink/40633-wineries-in-armenia-slowly-modernizing From GROONG ===== Why must we and others always invoke that drunken idiot Noah every time we talk about Armenia and Ararat/Masis? Are there any Armenians named Noah ՆՈՅ//NOY? Why did the first thing that idiot make from the grapevine was this http://www.aniland-shop.de/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/83_0.jpg http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article7582982.ece/alternates/w620/ArArAt.jpg Not this. TOLI-TEREV PATOUK? http://georgefamily.net/food/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/DSCN0480.JPG We never remember that what he planted was an AGHOURI GRAPEVINE KHAGHOGHENI http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=53490&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=308446 Why the first thing that idiot make from the grapevine was this http://www.railwaysleepers.com/files/images/product/grapevine.jpg http://www.aniland-shop.de/images/product_images/thumbnail_images/83_0.jpg http://www.standard.co.uk/incoming/article7582982.ece/alternates/w620/ArArAt.jpg === Origin of GRAPE Middle English, from Anglo-French grape grape stalk, bunch of grapes, grape, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German krāpfo hook ==== AGHOURI http://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=7&pageNumber=1026 http://www.nayiri.com/imagedDictionaryBrowser.jsp?dictionaryId=7&pageNumber=1027 ԽԱՂՈՂ KHAGHOGH Not XAXOX please.where we dont know which is KH and which GH. I cannot find a convincing etymology, not even in the Ajarian above. Some have suggested that it is from Arabic ԽԱԼՈԿKhalog, and others say it is from ԽԱԿ/unripe, raw/Sour/ԹԹՈՒ.. Remember Aerops fable of Sour Grapes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fox_and_the_Grapes ===== ** Hangover ԳԻՆԱՐԲՈՒՔԷՆ ՎԵՐՋ - WINEFEST AFTERMATH ԳԻՆԱՐԲՈՒՔէՆ ՎԵՐՋ Դանիէլ Վարուժան ՀԵԹԱՆՈՍ ԵՐԳԵՐ (Նկարիչ բարեկամիս` ԱրսԷն ՄարկոսԵանին) Սըրահն է լուռ: Կոչնականներն հեռացան: Ջահերն ոսկի դեռ կը վառին մոլեգնած, Եվ կը հեղուն, սեղաններուն վրա անձայն, Արիւնն իրենց երակներուն բորբոքած: Վինը լըռեց: Կը թափառի նըւաղուն Երգն իր վերջին` զոր հարբած սիրտը չըմպեց: Անոնց բերնին վըրա և ցոփ աչքերուն Կը սըփռէ քունն իր չըղջիկի թեւը մեծ: Սեղանին վրայ է ամէն ինչ ցիրուցան: Սափորին մէջ կ'երազէ մաս մը գինի: Նուռ մը լըքուած, ակռաներու վէրքեր վրան, Ջահերուն տակ, ջահերուն հետ կ'արիւնի: Եւ կը փըշրի բաժակ մ'հանկարծ, հեծելով Լըռութեան մէջ: Զայն ճեղքած էր նախապես Կին մը արբշիռ` երբ կը ներկեր կըտղանքով, Գինիին խորն, ատամներն իր, բուստի պէս: Ծաղկամանին մէջ կը թոռմին հիրիկներ` Որոնց բոյրով գուսանն եղաւ սըրարբած: Աթոռին վրայ հողմահա՛ր մ'է մոռցըւեր` Զերդ հոլաթեւ մեծ թիթեռնիկ մը մեռած: Դուրս կը հոսին բաց մընացած դուռներէն Գաղջ ալիքներն հալվեներուն ու մուշկին: Եվ քըրքիջներն ու կըտղուցներն համորեն Հայլուէներուն խորութեան մէջ կը մեռնին: Կ'աշխատին հոն միայն երկու գերիներ, Մին` աղախին, միւսը` ծառայ մ'անճոռնի, Որ կը խըմէ մերթ աւելցուկ գինիներն Ու կ'համբուրէ ընկերուհին, գողունի

**Abgar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Abgar Add to that Ashkhen Hovakimian/Agnes Joaquim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanda_'Miss_Joaquim ***John. There are several families here with that as their surnames. They seem to be Christians from India .I met a young woman born in India Christine (her real name)whose family name was John, married to a Muslim Persian Teymoouri. I asked her if she knew that her family may have been Armenian at one time. She did not know.