Arturian

Azat, no comments. Sip, childish? How much money have you made in your life to call me a child? The way i behave is armenian way. All my friends ... again all armenians I've known in my life so far has the same attitudes towards life, women etc. Think before you talk. Kazza i will not reply to any of your posts! I don't care how english/russian/american girls behave. aurguplu, my behoaviour has got noting to do with your boz qurds. It is traditional armenian behavior. 99% of armenian men behave this way. People in this forum are not from Armenia, so their attitude does not reflect real armenian attitude. Most of them haven't even lived in Armenia, thus have no right ot talk from our side. Our way surely shows highest respect to women. Westen mentality desprespects women badly in comparison to ours. I can easily prove you that... highflyier, your post makes little sence. It is about mentality. Armenian mentality vs Western. If a person disrespect Armenian way, traditions then he'd better not to call himself Armenian. Agree? Thoth, not at once. And i never paied for russian girls. It is my character: no gifts, no presents for them. I don't run for them, they run for me. nellie very few of your post makes sence. About women working, sorry but you are wrong. I will not "not allow" my wife work. She will understand that it is better to stay at home for the sake of kids. That's the way my family works and families of all my relatives. In our families none of women work, escept my uncle's wife because both of her kids already married. She has a small restraunt. When my kids will be grown and if my wife says that she wants to do something for fun, there is can be any problems. But she should be thinking about earning, just fun. Nellie, in opposite. I have experience. I have seen how english families operate, how they raise kids, their behavior towards kids and vice versa. I have known their issues when 30 y.o. son was arguing with his 60 y.o. mother and shouting at her. I have lived in 3 english families, so you can't say that i am not experienced. About entire world. I have seen more of world that you can possible imagine. And that's probably why i can judge from my angle more that anyone else. Azat i understand you and apoligise for my reaction, but when i saw the post of Kazza i did not believe my eyes. For the whole time on this forum, I have never disrespected any Armenian girl. I have never used a bad lagnuage towards any Armenian in girl in my life, wereas in your society you call girls b****. Isn't it the truth? (of course not in front of their faces). Anyway, there isn't anything for me to say and to add. Movses I ask just ask to delete the topic when you talk about me. You can also delete my post towards Kazza and all the outcomes of the posts. Wether you decide to do that or not, it's up to you. GOD BLESS ARMENIA [ March 08, 2002, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

Wow, aghmug aka pilafhead is here. Long time no see. COngratulations to all Armenian women. First of all congratulations to our mothers as there is no thing and no one more important, holier in this world than mother!!! May God give you long life and sound health! Sisters, wives, fiancees ... may this day bring you happiness and smile. And let this smile be on your face for the rest of your life. Happy women's day to you all!!!

Sip, you have totally wrong image. I have more girls during the summer than you during your whole life. : ) Seriously. But all of them are russians... If I say during the summer i have about 20 russian girlfriends. Would you believe me? No man, not prostitutes, just girls... But it gives me no right to talk about it in public. Especially for so called Armenian girl who probably has more men than me girls during the summer. )) Thoth, man you need some major health check and i believe sergery as well. I am offering my financial help for your recoveries. Man, you are in mess. :: )))))))))))))))))) Get on with your life, kid. Sorry can't call you a man. In Armenia there are sertain type of behaviour applies to men. And man can be one if he acts in that way. In your case I wouldn't say that you are. [ March 08, 2002, 04:14 AM: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

Thoth you are not serious. You have some issues. This post wasn't even directed to you! Your toungue is too long, and you act like a kid having two boy kids. Laph at yourself, you are rediculous. One thing about Armenian girls. Tell that they are whores to my face and I will show you who are armenian men!!! Freak? :: )) Muaahahaha... Man read your previous post carefully, and you will find out who is real freak. looool

quote:Originally posted by Kazza:And mabye I said the wrong thing or something, but the way he is carrying on , just because I said SEX IS BEAUTIFUL, see, SEX, SEX, SEX! Dear GOD!!! You have nothing armenian in you!!! Nothing!!! Typical, even not very typical english girl!!! I don't care what you do, i don't care about your attitudes towards sex. You different guys everyday? Chinese, brazilian etc. It is you husband's problem who will have a wife like you!!!! Thank God, for mother i have, cursed will be kids who will have mother like you!!! I don't wish that even upon my worst enemies!!! Smoke it have sex like a cat, then tell fairy tails to your kids with your smoked with hash brain how many black you've had in your life and how many times you've cheated on your husband!!!!! eeeh ... Astvac im!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where are we all goin >???????????????????????

Unbelievably how you talk about me behind my back. I couldn't resist. If none of you sees the problem here, then i can surely say, none of you think like an armenian. It is about disgrace. There are many people (foreigners) especially azeris and turks visiting this site and it is shameful when our (your) girl has such immoral signiture. Hagarag, you sentence makes no sence. Thus it is impossible to reply. Hell with her and her signiture. It is her life, whatever she does is none of my busines. Has sex like a cat? doesn't concern me. It is her PARENTS' problem raising a girl like. What concern me is that she is giving a bad image to our girls. And our girls have more self respect, purity than american/english b****. MosJan, you are grown man. You have lived most of you live (as i understand) in Armenia. I mean, these kids have never lived there, thus don't know such things as disrace, purity, respect, apperciation etc. But if you don't see a problem here... then sorry: Leave it as it is. I will simply leave this forum. But close this topic. It is not nice to talk about person behind his back. Azat, i trully agree that life is too short, but I can't watch an Armenian girl putting such signiture. It is sad! Artur

Ok Movses, mer los anjelestsi dyadya. About #hyeforum, understand as you like. Your opinion is our of my interest. About credit, it was a joke. About bro, i meant nothing but respect, i rather don't care where you from, and i don't know about your east LA, west LA things ... bro=axpers. And about trafic, read the words exactly. I believe ... i.e. i assume ... i.e. i consider ... How should I rephrase, so you understand it from at least second time ??? Anyways, i am out of this forum. But before i go, firstly go and learn the ethics and morals of Armenian society and then build an Armenian forum and call it HyeForum. GOD bless you all! Artur

Thoth i do agree in most of you points (surprise?). About elder people here, mostly they look very good, sometimes even amazingly good. And it indeed seems that western women are driven towards fitness etc. And it a good thing! Agree! About cosmetic surgery, here again from religious point of view i have to disagree. But mainly i do agree with you. And the best of health to your boys, you are a happy man, GOD gave you a true happiness.

quote:Originally posted by koko:Arthur you show us the patriarcalic man in the armenian sociaity wich i personally think should be wiped off.. I have meet people like you. Sadly, there are many in armenia today who see girls as objects, a woman should care more of how they look than what they achieve in life. I wonder what your mother sais? I hate stupid men like you I am not here to explain myself 50 times again. Read my previous posts and you will understand. About hate, how can you hate me if you don't know me? Of course what's inside of person matter, what she achieved. I don't want to sound offensive but your post itself was not of clever category. It seems that you have some issues...

WE WILL NEVER FORGET, WE WILL NEVER FORGVIE!!!!!!!!!!

Movses Jan, the channel problem is out topic. If you have questions PM me. And also don't worry about my traffic, I believe i already generate twice as much as your portal. But that's not the point here. About childish games. These are discussions and thank me from driving some traffic to your forum. 90% of discussions come from me. I am afraid without me your forum would be more or less dead. That's one thing. Another thing about fingers pointed at me. What is the problem here? Did I break your code of regulations?? Did i disrespected you and/or anyone? Did I ever swear here? No! Therefore there no fingers can be pointed at me!!! These are discussions and in democratical way people have a right to express its opinions and others have a right to disagree with me. Bro, you have some issues and problems with me, others rather I believe don't think so. And about 100 times... I get it as an offence. I will not reply to this. Regards, Artur [ March 01, 2002, 01:22 AM: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

OK, Thoth, now i will say things about you. You call me disrespectful and all fashioned with no respect to women. Look at you. You talk in public about your wife and you having sex, and you happy that she had sex before marriage. It is the sign of respect to her or disrespect? You see your wife as a tool for your satisfaction, and disgracefully talk about it in public with some kids (yes kids for your age). You call your self moral, and say your way is wrong. Define!!! Is western way right? In what way? That girls have sex like cats before marriage? Is our society wrong because it does not legalize drugs, but in your society, even kids can buy cocain heroin etc. Is west better than us? Homosexuals, transexuals, pedophilies etc. are everywhere. People rape kids like nothing. 3 year old - 2 year old they don't care. Prostitution has such a high percentage, and people like you think prostitution is just the way of earning money, and this encourages young kids to go for it. Or the west better in the way that there is such disrespect to parents. Let me remind you that in your society kids raise voice at their parents, and throw bad words at them ... Kids in YOUR society respect FRIENDS MORE THAN PARENTS !!! People in your society respect wifes more than parents!!! Is this right then? Or it is right that kids walk aroung with guns shooting their teachers in schools????? In what way it is better??? Is it better in the way that husband and wife INVITE THIRD PARTY FOR THEIR SEXUAL GAMES TO HAVE SATISFACTION ????? Is your society better in the way that guys walk around calling girls bitches instead of showing respect to the most beautiful part of mankind??? Is our way worse, because we show highest respect to our girls??? I have never ever called an armenian girl in bad way as my mouth wouldn't do that. Is our society worse because women don't sleep with boses but stay at home watching HOLY THING CALLED KIDS??? Is our society worse that our women are so loyal to their husbands??? Is our society wrong because men, do whatever it takes to protect their family??? Is our way wrong when men does not allow woman to drive car, BECAUSE HE CARES SO MUCH ABOUT HER HELTH and doesn't want her to be heart??? Open your eyes and sing, as you don't see such things... you are blind... blind old guy who's got no business but to argue with some kids. You have your own children, go and spend more time with them rather than here! What is your point of life? What is life for you? To have good time before you die? Life is about kids, life is about relatives, your parents. To make sure that they are happy. You call me stupid and childish. You are right, I am stupid, i spend so much time here arguining with your type people. I am already 20 year old and I am ashamed that I haven't yet build a house for my mother in Greece. Bro, I don't want to offend you, I don't want to arue with you. We are all armenians here and you armenian too and I wish you all the best, and all the best to your family. I wish your kids be the happiest in the world and have all the wealth. But start respecting who you are, start respecting our traditions, cos these are traditions of your grandfathers and grandmothers. Movses, wether you or her I don't care i want it to be removed. Obviously you don't see a problem here. No comments... Kazza, i ask you to remove the first 2 lines of your signiture. Pls do so. Regards, Artur

It is not about critisism, me being against everyone etc. It's about Kazza's signiture. It is a public forum and it is an Armenian forum, so i believe we should comply to the morals and ethics of Armenian society. Many foreigners especially Azeris visit this site. And it is disgraceful. I ask moderators to demand the removal of the signiture from Kazza. If not then, i can't be here, it is shameful for me to see an Armenian girl with such signiture. Our girls are not hash smokers and they don't talk about sex in public!!! It is immoral! I won't reply and comment anymore until the signiture is removed. Artur P.S. Jegrnaut I appreciate your post. It is good to see a guy who respects our culture. [ February 28, 2002, 06:05 AM: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

I believe this will be my last post on this forum, so I will reply to everyone's post. Kazza, there is such this called disgrace. And it is disgraceful for me to see that Armenian girls act like english, with no self respect and talking about sex in such free manner. I believe our girls are not like that and have more selfrespect. They show shyness and being modest. If you don't see the problem here and you don't understand what I am talking then you belong to non-armenian category girls. No comments... Thoth, there is a very good saying in Armenia. Whatch only things you say, don't intervene. You have showed how non-serious person you are. As i understand you have family and kids. It is just sad that person like you comes and spends his time on such silly thing as forum and tries to play a joker instead of going and earning money for the kids and the family. When i think about man of your age i imagine my father being in your place, that makes me lagh how ridicioulos that would be. Think about it, you are not a kid to act so childish towards me and especially Tigrannes (read your last post and think), you have a family to take care of and protect. Be more serious, man. Hasmiek, i never meant to offend. I never meant to offend any armenian girl on this forum. As i will be the lowest man on earth if I did. About me disliking, there are many good points about europe in general. I think this is forum and we have a right for opinions. But it doesn't matter, because we are armenians and we should appreciate our mentality and lifestyle. And that's just what I am doing. I apperciate what we have more than anything, 90% of people here rather don't appreciate our way. No comments... To Nvard, I believe you are the only true Armenian girl with mentality, acts etc. that matche our way. I have known Nvard for a long time and i can say that. Others rather act as european/american girls. I will not comment in order not to offend the girls who have Armenian blood inside. Hagarag jan, what did I ever do to you? Did you get offended by me appreciating armenian way? Don't answer that, cos i won't read it. Tigran, keep up bro. You are on the right track. The first non-armenia born, non-armenia raised guy who respects our mentality and follows our way. GOD bless you bro, you have my ICQ, keep in touch. And for all, GOD bless you and your families and all your relativies may peace be upon you all. Bye! Artur

quote: do you believe in the evolution theory? The topic of this thread is "Satanic Bible"

Harut you misunderstood me. I am just saying that they don't really care about the look. Our girls rather spend more time on that. I was in Armenia 5 months ago. About Victorian age, you misunderstood me. Sip, i don't know what made you think that my signature was directed towards you or other people. It was a general quote. I will cange if it is very offensive towards you and your level of intellegence. Azat, cmon maaaan Do you really think that London girls dress better than russians? Maybe it is the matter of tastes, then no problem bro. I again ask moderators to delete Kazzas signature. If you won't change, I will have to leave this forum, I am sure you won't cry for me , but I can't take this disgrace.

quote:Originally posted by hagarag: Artur, Any church that distorts Jesus' word by denying women equal footing in their hierarchy has teachings that are WRONG. Now i see what really concerns you. No comments...

Kazza, btw i am not in London. Visit Moscow and you'll understand what I mean. About words silly etc. i ask you not to use such words. I am not going to comment on your sayings about me, I am an Armenian, and you still have an Armenian blood in you, so I will have to show respect. If you'd be an english girl, i would act differently. I ask moderators to delete Kazzas signiture. It is disrespectful to us and disgraceful for an armenian girl to post such things in public. PandukhT pls reply and tell wether you are going to ask Kazza to change it. It is an armenian forum, and members should respect out traditions, values and views. Thoth, no comments. You are not serious again. Regards, Artur

Janul, I would rather disagree about London chicks. Yes, sometimes... but not in general... especially in the Unis! I do understand, it's all about studying etc., but that doesn't mean you shouldn't care about the way you look, you know. About Russia, surely girls there dress better than any other european or american girls, no doubt about it. BTW, I was in Moscow two months ago, they still look aaiight... keeping up with fashion. Keep it Armenian! Artur [ February 26, 2002: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

http://www.hayastan.com/imagef/gallery/Army_-_Heros/fedayis.gif February 25 marked the anniversary of General Andranik Ozanian, the first name in the Armenian struggle for national liberation in modern times. "Like an eagle he soars over the mountains and ridges." Andranik Toros Ozanian was born in historic Shabin-Karahisar ("Shabin, the black fortress," 80 miles northeast of Erzurum). He was destined more, perhaps, than any of the other Armenian revolutionaries, to provide leadership, rationality, acumen, prudence, and effectiveness to Armenia's rising up against the brutal Ottoman oppression. Even during his adolescence Andranik recognized the pattern of Ottoman oppression and the sufferings of his people. So it was that at the tender age of 22, having lost his wife and two children, Andranik joined a partisan group formed in his native town. Inspired with the ideals of liberation for his people, Andranik went to Constantinople to meet those who had already been deeply involved in the liberation movement. He readily accepted tasks assigned to him. When the leader, Serob Aghbiur, of a fighting group which Andranik had joined, was killed, Andranik was named leader. It was in 1901 when his fighting group held out in the Arakelots Vank against an overwhelmingly superior force that Andranik's name became famous for his effectiveness as a revolutionary leader. There were many more similar occurrences to come. Andranik, at first, joined the Hunchak party; it was through party organization that he could be effective in securing men and materiel with which to carry on. But disagreement with party policies led Andranik to leave the Hunchak ranks and join the Dashnak party. There too, when that party engaged in practices judged to be wrong in principle, Andranik resigned. During the period 1907-13 Andranik committed his energies to helping the Bulgarian liberation movement. In it he created an Armenian division, which brought honor to itself by its effective participation. For his efforts Andranik was decorated and commissioned an officer. With World War I under way (1914-1918) Andranik went to the Caucasus and assisted in organizing Armenian battle units to fight the Turks alongside the Russian army units. In 1915 Andranik was named commander of all Armenian volunteer units within the Russian army. The overthrow of the Tsarist regime in Russia (1917) and the consequent collapse of the Russian imperial army found Andranik on the side of the working class out of which the social revolution in Russia had arisen. Early in 1918 he began to organize a separate army to liberate western Armenia. Made a Major General, Andranik had many thousands under his command, Armenian soldiers from the old Russian army, and many thousand Armenians who had volunteered from all over the world. However, short on re-sources and back-up military fighting units, Andranik had to abandon his plan to take Erzurum. With the collapse of the Tsarist Russian government an independent Armenian Republic was set up in May 1918. Andranik was in sympathy with the social principles that came with the new Russian order and desired to maintain amicable relations with Russia. However, Armenia's ruling party, the Dashnaks, did not favor such a relationship. As a result Andranik once again had a falling out with them. The brilliant defense of Zangezur (1918-19) under Andranik's command marked the end of his military career. Leaving Armenian lands he traveled to Europe and eventually to America (1922), finally settling in Fresno, California, with his new wife. His name and fame enabled him to be effective in fund-raising activities in America for aid to Armenian orphans. His life in Fresno, with frequent visits elsewhere in response to calls, was spent very much in the public eye. But his health was failing. While seeking to regain strength in a sanatorium in Chico, California, the death that he had eluded in his many years of fierce battle encounters, now finally caught up with him. The date was August 31, 1927. City-wide public attention was accorded him at his funeral in Fresno, where he was interred (September 7, 1927) in the Ararat Cemetery. A few months later Andranik's remains were exhumed and taken to Paris (accompanied by his widow) for a second funeral service and interment. Few heroes have been as well acclaimed during their lives as was Andranik. In 2000 Andranik’s ashes was reburied in Armenian capital city’s Yerablour cemetery, the resting place of Armenian officers killed during the 1988-1994 Nagorno Artsax conflict with neighboring Azerbaijan. Hayastan.com From Azg Daily

quote Heh ? Man, i asked you a simple question, why are you so scared to answer? Say yes or no. [ February 26, 2002: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

quote:Originally posted by hagarag: When I visited Armenia I was impressed by the number of women who were very attractive and fashionably dressed, especially in Yerevan and in Gyumri. Vakhhh! Mer lennnnnnnnagani akhchikneri cava tanim! Inch anglya, inch amerika??? Akhchikner unink ashkhara chuni! Ba !!!! [ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

Juggernaut man, stop it, gonna puke. No, nothing wrong with being fat. But when a girl is a bit overweight she should dress the such way so people don't feel disgusting, you know. Cover nicely... there so many clothes for such girls which make them look pleasent. At least you feel relaxed when you talk to them ....

Man there is nothing for me to decide. I just want your opinion. Do you regard Armenian teachings wrong? Simple question... [ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: ARTURian ]

Pandukht, not sort of uniform, but wear something that suits them. Russian girls dress 5000 times better than English girls or Greek girls here. Anshnork, currently I am studying in England. Pandukt, these kind of clothes are crap. It shoud be something nicer. The thing you showed seems as cheap second hand clothes. This kind of staff english girls wear. The only time they look more or less good is when they go to balls or discos (even in dicos some fatties dress in order to scare people around They don't care the way they look, they just wear something. It is obvious.