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Well if we combine the other symbol on the flag its more descriptive the lands our holy Ararat where we begin its much nicer also.

Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) welcomes the bill prepared by North Dakota parliamentarians, which proclaims April 24 as Remembrance Day for the Victims of the Armenian Genocide. The Committee’s message says, “ANCA welcomes the bill introduced to the House of Representatives of North Dakota state by North Dakota Congressmen Lilly Hanson and Joe Koeber, as well as David Nething. The document offers to proclaim April 24 as Remembrance Day for the Victims of the Armenian Genocide. It says that the annihilation of the Armenian nation was being carried out by destroying churches, schools, libraries and cultural monuments. The main goal of those crimes was to totally exterminate the traces of a noble civilization with history over three thousands years.” With the adoption of this resolution North Dakota joined those 40 states, which have already recognized the Armenian Genocide. http://panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=20600

Yeah but what about the Kurds? those cheap shits demand our land! mount Ararat man they don't really deserve crap and they even claim the Assyrians land sick.

How in the world would the Armenians kill thousands of Muslims? while the ottoman empire were very powerful its impossible.

January 06, /ASBAREZ/. I can't help but connect this to our Ardavazt legend, except turned upside down so it's actually a positive. Instead of Ardavazt's release from his chains through his faithful dogs' efforts bringing forth Armageddon, Ragnarok, Apocalypse, or whatever eschatological (end of the world) variant you prefer, we're saving the world. The world of Armenia. The eastern portions of Artzakh, to be more specific. I was at what can only be described as an exciting lecture on December 21 at the Merdinian Armenian school. Dr. Hamlet Bedrosian, an archaeologist, spoke about the initial excavation he conducted in the summer of 2006. He presented convincing case that what they unearthed was Dikranagerd. Of course this is not THE Dikranagerd, capital of Dikran the Great's empire, but another city he'd built. The lecture and the dig were sponsored by the Yergir Union, a group primarily involved in resettlement efforts in our homeland. The unearthing of such a 21-century old city has tremendous ramifications, given its location. It is a little north of what used to be the city of Aghdam. Not only would it add much to our understanding history and life in ancient Armenia, but, it would reconfirm our ties to those lands, once again undercutting any Azeri/Turkic claims. A project such as properly unearthing a whole city, buried for centuries, is a decades-long undertaking as Dr. Bedrosian pointed out. It's a lifetime's work. It's a work of love. It's a work of national pride. It's a work, in this case, of serious national importance to Armenia. It's a work of international proportions and ramifications, as Azerbaijan has been whining about these efforts to the world. That alone should convey the gravity of this effort. The idea of unearthing, layer by layer of soil, stones, and relics, releasing this Dikranagerd from its "chains" is incredibly inspiring and reminiscent of the Ardavazt myth, as far as the unleashing goes. This ancient city could become an incredible tourist site. Can you imagine the creeps in Baku seething as our homeland reclaims its heritage and benefits by it too? It's a great vision. Contact Yergir USA through Sahag Arabian by calling (818) 469-8167or emailing him at sahagarabian@hotmail.com, or visiting yerkir.org. Offer your support. Spend your summers out in the archaeological field reconstructing the pieces of our past by helping dig them up. Make a contribution. This is great. It's almost like finding our Troy. Transliterations in this piece follow Western Armenian phonetic conventions. ASBAREZ, 1/6/2007 - by Garen Yegparian. http://www.armeniadiaspora.com/ADC/news.asp?id=1910

You're really stupid if we were the same moderators would know because of our I.P addresses.

Like i said issues.

You people have serous issues.

If there was what would you prefer heres my ideal one. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Newarmenianflag.jpg

The book looks great but its too expensive.

No you brought your stupid assumptions out of your ass.

Well mannered yeah like the stupid things you've said in this forum? people accuse me of being turkish because i have different views.

More speakers support us there is a bigger chance.

How the hell do i prove that im a turk who posts with different nick names? just because i have different views doesn't make everyone a turk and i am new to the forum. and how do you expect armenia to get cilica back? we can barely get van or ani back which are more important now and much more historically ours. Cilica of course is too but wouldn't you rather get Van, kars, ani and karabakh back? plus ani was one of our ancient capitals very important. I mean if your going to want that back to why not just conqueor the turks and split it to us and the greeks lol. Plus azeris do not deserve land.

http://a968.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/40/l_65b08526e4ca21f810c4764d62897d67.jpg This Hurrian cuneiform inscription translates to "I dug this watercourse" in Armenian. Rafael Ishkhanyan, "Illustrated History of Armenia," Yerevan, 1989

ARATTA --The Land of the Mountains Where the Gods Live of the great Epic of Gilgamesh. The Land where the Garden of Eden -- the Tree of Life and the Tree of Wisdom is located...the Twin peaks of Mashu (Masis) - the SYMBOL of the holy Cosmic Mountain. When many of us hear this name we picture the birth and rebirth of humanity and human civilization in the sacred land in the highlands of ARMANIA. The Bible also recounts the ancient stories of Genesis, including the Paradise [birth of Humanity] and also the Rebirth of Humanity in the sacred Mountains of the Land of Ararat, the holy land where the resurrection of the human race took place. http://a405.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/36/l_5a8fa0f2be3b636cc71ed078f03872cc.jpg The modern Armenian name for the country was Hayk, later Hayastan. Hayasa, combined with the IE suffix '-stan' (land). Haik was one of the great Armenian leaders after whom the The Land of Haik was named. He is said to have settled at the foot of Mount Ararat, travelled to assist in building the Tower of Babel, and, after his return, defeated the Babylonian king Bel (believed by some researchers to be Nimrod) in 2492 BC near the mountains of Lake Van, in the southwestern part of historic Armenia (present-day eastern Turkey). Nairi, meaning "land of rivers", used to be an ancient name for Armenia and Armenians, used by Assyrians and Egyptians. Haik (Haya in Armeni Sumerian) was a chieftain of the Armens, an Armenian tribe at the time of Aratta (The name also resembles Ararat, and the mountain is indeed located in the possible area of Aratta). Haik is also used in place of Orion, in the Armenian translation of the Bible. The traditional etiology for the ethnonym is from Armenak or Aram, the great-grandson of Haik's great-grandson, and another leader who is, according to Armenian tradition, the ancestor of all Armenians. Armani mentioned among the enemies defeated by the Akkadian king Naram-Sin (2300 BC), locating them in the southern Armenian Highland. The Assyrians (direct descendants of Akkadians) to this day refer Armenians by their inscription Armani. Armenia has been populated since prehistoric times, and has been proposed as the site of the Biblical Garden of Eden. Armenia lies in the highlands surrounding the Biblical mountains of Ararat, upon which Noah's Ark came to rest after the flood. (Gen. 8:4). In Armeni Sumerian records written ca. 2,700 BC, tells us the story of the Great Flood and the rebirth of Life [the Tree of Life or the Garden [Partez - Paradise - the main motif in the Armenian-Hurrian Mitanni and Araratian reliefs] of Eden located in Armenia - the Land of Four Rivers. Archeologists continue to uncover evidence that Armenia and the Armenian Highlands was the earliest site of human civilization. From 10,000 BC to 1000 BC, tools and trinkets of copper, bronze and iron were commonly produced in Armenia and traded in neighbouring lands where those metals were less abundant. Several states flourished in the area of Greater Armenia, including Aratta (Haik's time), mentioned in Armeni Sumerian records (3rd millennium BC), the Hittite Empire (at the height of its power), Mitanni (South-Western historic Armenia) and Hayasa-Azzi (15th - 12th cc BC), and in the Iron Age the Nairi people (12th - 9th cc BC) and the Kingdom of Urartu (9th - 6th cc BC), each participating in the ethnogenesis of the Armenian people. Yerevan, the modern capital of Armenia, was founded in 782 BC by the Urartian king Argishti I. http://a590.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/23/l_f26db7a421d9683441d5f21cc7ad286d.gif Haik This summer (August 11) marks the 4,500 year of Navasard (Haik's calendar). Haik (Orion) in ancient times in Armenia was the Sun of righteousness rising with healing in his wings. The 4 sides and 3 middle stars of Haik/Orion represent the 4 seasons and 3 months in each season, making the total of the 12 months. The 12 signs of the zodiac go around the same pattern 3 months, 4 seasons. Haik/Orion represents the Sun (Ar or Arev) rising with healing in his wings. Precession is shown in the lunar cycle of the 4 weeks (7's) 3 in each. The moon goes through the 12 signs, 2 half days in each sign completing the month. The 4 weeks (7's) make the ancient cross (khatch) symbol which shows the precession cycle. 3 signs of the 12 are in each of the 4 (7's)weeks. Going through the moon phases like how the swaying of precession would be from new moon, half moon, quarter moon, half again, and new again. Each 1000 years is a day so 2 half days is 2000 half years which it goes through of the 12 signs 2 half days in a month. So also the 2 meaning male and female 1000 in each. The cycle of life is like the seasons in a year. We go through darkness in winter and rise to life again at spring. The same with the Sun rising at Spring representing rebirth of life and path to eternal life. Armenian Timeline: Armenia: Cradle of Civilization (land of the 4 rivers) * Areg dajar-Gobekli Tepe (Sun temple) in the Armenian Highlands of Ararat (Aratta) - (10,500 BC - ?BC) * Flood and rebirth of nations on mountains of Ararat (Aratta) - (?BC - ?BC) * Aratta (Armeni Sumerians) - (3rd millennium BC - 2nd millennium BC) * Haykazuni dynasty - (25th century BC - 17th century BC) * Hurri-Mitanni and Hayasa-Azzi - (17th century BC - 12th century BC) * Nairi - (12th century BC - 9th century BC) * Urartu - (9th century BC - 6th century BC) * Oriontid - (6th century BC - 2nd century BC) http://a927.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/11/l_d5ad0ea4df53612d7f99d4ca840e6f8e.jpg The word Armani - an early form of Armen-Armin [Armen or Arman denotes the national affiliation, as with many cultures standing for the particular nation thus, the God AR being the primary deity in the Indo-European (Aryan)pantheon - thus AR MAN denotes -- Men of Ar or Children of Ar, again initially AR standing for ARAREL-ARARICH [hence Ar-Ar-At the Place of ARAR] -- Create-Creator, also Sun, Light, Life and Love. http://a477.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/l_f64d7abc9fcd5a04c7860af871f292ac.jpg The Armenian language is unique compared to all other languages. Hurrian and Sumerian cuneiforms indicate the unique 8 or 9 sounds that the Armenian language has in their letters. The IE(Aryan) roots are from the Armenian Highland, and the 8 or 9 unique sounds in Armenian is nothing similar to other IE peoples language. The Armenian language therefore is a independent language of IE and root of IE. Jacquetta Hawkes, "The First Great Civilizations," London, 1967 "Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu." M. Chahin, "The Kingdom of Armenia," London, 2001 "The new kingdom of Urartu, which proved to be the stronghold of the Hurrian race." Queen Nefertiti of Egypt was a native of Mitanni. The Mittani Kingdom of Armenia was an off-shoot of the Hurrian kingdom. The Hurri and the Mittani in turn were the contemporaries the Hittites and the Hykos, within whom they shared many cultural and political aspects. Today, all these aforementioned nations are considered to be, in varying degrees, proto-Armenians, that is, we modern day Armenians are direct descendants of the remnants of those ancient tribes. Whats your opinion on this type of history going way back?

America had involvement with Saddam i personally would give him life he was only 60 give him a few years and a heart attack would have probably killed him with all the stress and stuff. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/Donald_saddam.jpg

Yeah that murder was very wrong and very racist i am disappointed. Someone that disgusting he said he would have killed as many Armenians as he can and he said im sorry i didn't do any in the past. That is just disgusting if you're referring to that murder by the azeri guy.

My sources come from Google i usually type Armenia, Armenian or Armenians and here is the source after i saw it. http://www.today.az/news/politics/34655.html

Either way he massacred tons of Kurds.

Hopefully im sick and tired of playing games give justice to the people not the governments bush looks at his allies but since the democrats are in and when bush gets out everything will be good.

Do you have any sources on the ancient cilica earthquakes?

Well the Armenian tribes that formed Armenians Hayasa + Armens = Armenia

Hopefully we can get them back :-) http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/55636954_307e349cd0.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/54757964_12610920da.jpg http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/47215459_511e760429.jpg