hosank

you must go too far, INDEPENDENT is a harsh word, you must understand that behind the project, we do not only have zurderer and neko, but the whole of the turkish state. do you think zurderer learned to think on his own in a post-attaturk turkey? (or even a pre-attaturk turkey for that matter), no obviously, he has a government ministry telling him what to think, and another teaching neko how to spell

i think that number includes non hamshen armenians...because there are definately not that many hamshens in turkey

true.. but just like any person in the world can make the decision to kill or not to..

ok, enough of this written communism... apparently you can... look.. armenians and greeks are both decedents of a same proto-european race that has existed some 10 thousand years ago in what is now anatolia...not far from van... turks come from what is know eastern kazakstan. i do not see how we are related.

zen buddhist armenian? is that worse then being muslim armenian?....go figure

just recently a new programme has begun to air on youtube, about azeri reporter Murat Sultanov, and his mission to bring canadian culture to azerbaijan... please watch this movie film, or murat gets sent to karabakh front, or execute...http://youtube.com/watch?v=sIs6zvuoa3o

and your point in all this is...??

im sure they could come up with them... the christian hamshens call themselves hye. http://www.hamshen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64

wow somehow i always knew this was true, i just needed a real, researched article to prove it.. azerbaijan has completely based it's economy on the export of oil....oil does not last for ever my friend...

occupied lands? hmm i don't like the tone of this article...i think it was written by those of whom we shall not speak

will do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European can someone fix what is on the link above? this is obviously a turk-biast version of europe... turkey, and even azerbaijan are considered religiously/linguisticly/ and racially part of europe... armenia is not even mentionned.. have they forgotten that the modern languages of europe are derived from ancient armenian? or that armenians are part of the european puzzle, much more then turkey or azerbaijan is?

lol...just being azeri is insulting enough to the azerbaijani people... don't worry...his brother...(me) is...hehe..

im going for it... as long as they don't ship me off to the army the minute i set foot in the country... ..not that i would not do it..just, not yet...it would be the lamest vacation ever...

once again, wise words

great movie

there, azeri hippies

yes... i have been talking dialect alot with the hamshens on the forum...you guys should to

azerbaijan? where is that? south of kazakstan, north of uzbekistan, east of turkmenistan, west of tajikistan

the turks who live around them do call them ermeni btw..im not saying all do...the laz call them ermeni.. infact, some turkish hemshens use the word ermeni as 'drunkard', ironically.. the most hamshens that are now muslim have been christian till less then a hundred years ago..jesus is not totalllyyy lost... once again, go on that site, and talk to hamshenis by yourself..

btw, this isnt hosank...its pat, im just using his computer lol that stuffs all moiiii (irlandahay) cheers

-being a bunch of illiterate sheep hybrids -looking like your dad raped a goat and came up with you -being about as intelligent as a goat -being the laughing stock of the world should i go on?!?!

no...the urartians did not have an indo-european LANGUAGE, but were descendants of ancient aryans, Urartians are armenians turks come from what is known today as turkestan (kazakstan, turkmenistan, uzbekistan) the turks came from the south of the caspian see, while their ethnic brothers, the tatars, moved westwards from the north of the caspian. the turks arrived in the middle east in the 11th century, and did not settle in anatolia till the 14th. armenians have lived in anatolia, and the caucasus for 5 millenia

im voting republican

johannes, i have to disagree,...the hamshens are not turk, they do not consider themselves turks, and the turks don't consider them as such.. they call them 'ermeni', just like they call us.... in my opinion, it is pointless to debate the status, and loyalties of hamshens amongst each other, why don't you ask them what they think? http://www.hamshen.org/forum/ i have been a member of this forum for a while now.. we must also understand that there are 3 different subgroups of hamshens. 2 muslims groups: eastern ..pontic coast(who retain their dialect of armenian), among whom there is a large armenian sentiment, western, who speak turkish, but are not as attached to their armenian brothers last we have a 3rd apostolic christian group. there are large numbers of these in armenia, many in georgia, few in turkey (where they are originally from) and many in russia and turkestan (kazakstan, uzbekistan) point being, they are all somewhat different, with different feelings, you can't just throw them all into one boat.