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neko why don't you go to(hell) turkish forums and become one of them. Looks like you prefer turks(bozkurts or whatever the hell they call themselves) over armenians.

LOL

And who are those four experts? We don't want them to stay incognito. Let us know.

Usually ottoman turks prefer to demolish than build something. Ghegis Khan did the same... Ottoman historical monuments in current Armenia? You gotta be kidding.

AZG Armenian Daily #030, 17/02/2007 Armenian Genocide US GOVERNMENT DETERMINED TO FAIL THE RESOLUTION ON THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE AND AT THE SAME TIME TO FORCE TURKEY NORMALIZE ITS RELATIONS WITH ARMENIA On February 15, In Washington head of Turkey’s Armed Forces, general Yasar Buyukanit met with US Vice-President Dick Chaney and Councilor to President Bush, Steven Hadley. After the meeting he told the reporters that the Government of the United States are determined to fail the resolution on the Armenian Genocide and estimated this fact as rather positive. Buyukanit also tried to meet with the head of the Foreign Relations Committee of the US Congress, Tom Lantos, but the meeting did not take place, says CNN-Turk. Lantos is the only Congress member who survived the Holocaust and chairs the commission, which considers the question of Resolution of the Armenian Genocide. It Is known that Lantos preserves close relations with the Israeli authorities. Thus, his role in the adoption of the Resolution on the Armenian Genocide is obvious. Therefore also appears a question about the influence of Jewish organization of Armenia. BBC Turkish office informs that Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul when in USA told the leaders of the American Jewsih organization that Turkey will revise its relations with isreal unless the jews take active measures against the pending resolution. On February 16 Buyukanit met with the head of US Armed Forces Peter Pace and Assistant to Deefnse Minister, Erick Edelman. According to allegations by Buyukanit, the representatives of the Pentagon expressed determination of fighting against the PKK. In an arlier publication "Azg" predicted the Amerca’s warm welcome for Buyukanit, as the United States have always relied on the armed forces in their relations with Turkey. But there’s one more fact that Buyukanit seems to have forgotten about. In exchange of promising Turkey to impede the adoption of the Resolution on the Armenian Genocide, the US authorities demanded to normalize the relations with Armenia. Oktay Eksi in a publication in Hurriyet newspaper, February 15, said that Turkey is required to open the borer with Armenia. According to Eksi, the USA warned the Turkish authorities that the Armenian lobby will hardly reduce its pressure in the issue of the Genocide if Turkey goes on with the blockade of Armenia. Washington also advices Turkey to revise its policy about the Genocide in any case, as about 20 countries have recognize it and the recognition process does not seem to stop yet. By H. Chaqrian

Found this article throught google. You can go there and leave your comments. http://www.theconservativevoice.com/forum/...d=7971#comments Support Turkey to Win in Iraq Republicans should ignore the White House happy talk that it is winning the war on terrorism. Instead, the US is losing Turkey as an ally and is surrendering Iraq to Iran. Republicans should ignore the White House happy talk that it is winning the war on terrorism. Instead, the US is losing Turkey as an ally and is surrendering Iraq to Iran. US-Turkish relations will reach the point of no return with the vote on the Armenian genocide resolution, now scheduled in April. This resolution is favored to pass. With this vote the Congress will deeply alienate Turkey, a key NATO ally in the war on terrorism. Meanwhile, the White House is further alienating Turkey by favoring Iran and the Kurds in Iraq, especially the Kurds by awarding them control of the oil-rich city of Kirkuk. US decisions on Armenian genocide and Kirkuk will humiliate Turkey. The Turkish government will retaliate against the Kurds, a response that could easily derail US plans for Iraq and the US war on terrorism in general. To begin with Iraq, Turkey sees US policy in Iraq as hostile and directed and in favor of Iran and the Kurds. Turkey looks behind the White House rhetoric against Iran and notes that the US and Iran are now quietly cooperating in support of Prime Minister Maliki’s government. Turkey anticipates that this US-Iranian cooperation will deepen as pressure builds in Congress, thanks to the Democrats, for an early withdrawal of US troops. To be specific, the US needs to find a partner so that it can hand over power as it withdraws from Iraq. From Turkey’s perspective, the new US partner in Iraq will be Iran, not Turkey. Even more alarming from Turkey’s perspective is the fear that Kurdistan also benefits from US policy. In fact, the new state of Kurdistan, under US military protection, is already emerging on Iraq’s territory. Turkey is concerned that this new Kurdistan will encourage rebellion by Turkey’s own Kurds and the PKK. A PKK insurgency in Turkey claimed 30,000 lives in the mid-1990’s. Turkey is now fearful that their worst fears about US policy are justified as the US and Iraq prepare to turn over the oil-rich city of Kirkuk to Kurdistan via a referendum scheduled for December of this year (Kirkuk is located just outside Kurdistan’s territory and is claimed by Kurdistan). Kurdistan’s acquisition of Kirkuk would be an enormous humiliation for Turkey, as has been made clear by repeated statements from the Turkish government, largely ignored by the Bush Administration. Turkey’s concerns over Kirkuk will be magnified by Turkey’s defeat at the hands of congressional democrats on the Armenian genocide resolution. It now appears a sure bet that congress will pass an Armenian genocide resolution before Kirkuk passes into Kurdistan’s control. In sum, Turkey faces a crisis due to the Kirkuk referendum and the congressional vote on the Armenian genocide resolution. So far, the White House has given no sign that it can help with Congress on the genocide resolution and refuses to postpone Kirkuk’s referendum in December. Turkey can do little or nothing about the Armenian genocide resolution. Indeed, Speaker Pelosi, Senator Biden and Senator Reid all conspicuously snubbed Turkish Foreign Minister Gul when he requested meetings last week to discuss the resolution. Turkey can, however, do something about the Kirkuk referendum. Indeed, Turkey’s defeat on the genocide resolution greatly increases the pressure on Turkey’s government to block the referendum, as it has vowed to do. Turkey has both the military capability and the influence in Kirkuk’s political affairs to block the referendum. In short, Turkey’s actions on Kirkuk will derail President Bush’s plan for Iraq and his war on terrorism, where Iraq is the centerpiece, as Bush has often stated. Bush’s policy in Iraq of handing over power, while withdrawing forces, to Iran and Kurdistan will go by the wayside, a victim of Democratic Party activism against Turkey and Turkey’s retaliation against Kurdistan. For those who had doubts about the Bush plan for Iraq all along, these developments will come as welcome relief. Iran and Kurdistan will be the big losers.

Small correction Edo jan, 175 votes and we need 218 votes and/or cosponsors. (House of Reps. consists of 435 members) I also would like to add whoever has relatives or close friends in other states (Colorado, Texas etc.) Please contact them and ask them to contact their congressman -women to ask to vote for the resolution. Thanks! Hayreniq@ chi morana...

Zurderer there are rabbits like this too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ez5QPW-ku4 P.S. guess who is the snake

blah blah blah zurderer sometimes you don't even know what the hell are you talking about. It is just an answer but doesn't make a sense. Turkish Special Bureau IS WASTING MONEY ON YOU !!!

Although I respect real caucasian albanians (Aghvans) and consider them our historical brother nation and won't mind Movses Silikian to be a Caucasian Albanian at all, I would like to verify the information you posted here. Please give us the source or ISBN number of the book you read. Thanks!

LOL zurderer, I was joking about you being the employee of the year. But it looks like you really are one. Otherwise why are you wasting your time and nerves here?

LOL Vanetsi!!!

Someone was just talking about the free speech and democracy in other topic and now is censoring this one. Great job! Hellector cmon man do not get insulted. We need you man. I consider you one of few who acts more and talks less. Chgnas! Mna ste!

AYO! Menq enq mer sarer@!

Why don't you take a time and try to keep other people away from azeri/turkish propaganda and lies? Everyone here(hyeforum.com) already knows the truth about the Armenian Genocide and Arcax war. Try to educate others(there so many of them trying to learn something about these issues) and assure that our cause is right and that we don't exadurate anything when azeri/turkish propagandists keep bombarding them with numerous lies about us.

neko now you are doing to my posting what the azeris/turks did to Edik's article. DO NOT TRY TO TWIST MY POINT. It is actually true that people like you can not set priorities...

‘US administration firm to block Armenian resolution’ Turkey's top military commander has said he has observed determination on the part of the US administration to stop an Armenian genocide resolution from passage in the US Congress. Gen. Yaşar Büyükanıt "I heard senior US administration officials saying decisive words on stopping the Armenian genocide resolution from securing recognition in Congress," said Chief of General Staff Gen. Yaşar Büyükanıt, referring to his talks with US Vice President Dick Cheney and US National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. When asked to comment on whether the US administration seems firm in its resolve to fight outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) terrorism, Gen. Büyükanıt said, "Yes." Büyükanıt's scheduled meeting with US House of Representatives Foreign Relations Committee head Tom Lantos, which was canceled yesterday due to severe weather conditions, is to take place on Friday. The Armenian resolution, which has already been presented to the US House of Representatives, will be the main subject of this meeting. Gen. Büyükanıt is to meet today with Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Peter Pace and Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Eric Edelman. Upon being asked a question as to whether there is any possibility that the US may resort to force against Iran's nuclear program, Büyükanıt said: "No, we did not talk about this issue. We always prioritize issues that are in our own agenda."

Thanks vava, I didn't know those facts. Thanks for educating me.

As I said it is great to have someone to write the truth. My point is that he should be careful with phrases like "we are building restaurants with those headstones".

‘Armenian genocide’ as the Zildjian Secret Alloy Wednesday, February 14, 2007 The upcoming ‘genocide bill’ will be similar to the Zildjian secret alloy: It will be made in the United Stated under an Armenian name and its resonance will be essentially felt in Turkey. GÖKHAN YÜCEL As the saying goes: “Good wine needs no brush.” It is hard to ignore the fact that neither diplomacy nor the myth of strategic alliance has managed to prevent the “Affirmation of the U.S. Record on the Armenian Genocide Resolution” from hitting an all-time high. The supporters of the long-established U.S.-Turkish amity, as well as the arms companies, are wringing their hands, while the “genocide bill” campaigners have already started to celebrate victory. Upon his return from last week's visit to Washington, Foreign Minister Abdullah Gül brought back to Ankara the echoes of these cheering voices from the United States for further discussion. In Turkey Gül found a disappointed public opinion that had learnt how his request for a meeting had been rejected by Nancy Pelosi, speaker of the House of Representatives and the acting figurehead of the “pro-Armenian” league. This threw cold water in the face of the government's optimistic hopes of somehow escaping the “genocide” crisis. The new iron lady: Pelosi's pledge to accomplish the recognition of the “genocide” confirms the suspected image of an uncompromising iron lady. Here, one should understand her role well. Since 1987 she has been the representative from the eighth district of California, where the Armenian population is dense. She is also an active member of the Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues. This body consists of the co-sponsors of the legislative motion that was introduced in the House of Representatives by long-time Armenian issues supporters Adam Schiff (D-CA), George Radanovich (R-CA) and Congressional Caucus on Armenian Issues Co-Chairmen Frank Pallone Jr. (D-NJ) and Joe Knollenberg (R-MI), together with Congressmen Brad Sherman (D-CA) and Thaddeus McCotter (R-MI). Thus far 160 lawmakers have joined the caucus – 102 Democrats and 58 Republicans out of the 435 U.S. House members. Now Pelosi and her colleagues back the incorporation of historically, politically and legally binding provisions into the 10-page resolution. The euphoria in the diaspora was suddenly very apparent. On Armenian diaspora Internet forums in the United States the approval of the bill is being cited as a major step leading toward the answering of Armenian demands for financial retribution. Deciphering the code: Therefore, we must carefully decipher Section 3, declaration of policy in the proposed resolution. It reads as follows: The House of Representatives: 1 – Calls upon the President to ensure that the foreign policy of the United States reflects appropriate understanding and sensitivity concerning issues related to human rights, ethnic cleansing, and genocide documented in the United States record relating to the Armenian Genocide and the consequences of the failure to realize a just resolution; and 2 – Calls upon the President in the President's annual message commemorating the Armenian Genocide issued on or about April 24, to accurately characterize the systematic and deliberate annihilation of 1,500,000 Armenians as genocide and to recall the proud history of United States intervention in opposition to the Armenian Genocide. Given the negative mood, the officials in our capital should remain calm for the time being, though they must be ready for every emergency. Well not an easy task, is it? Gül's visit proved once more that what follows is a race against time, not a matter of affirming or denying whether the “genocide” in fact happened. The coming days appear to herald a period of effective lobbying in the pro-amity and pro-recognition circles in which the final decision, “yes or no,” is currently being shaped. It is a battle of those who widely whisper that U.S.-Turkey relations are at stake and those who do not care much about it. But the resolution stipulates, “to ensure that the foreign policy of the United States reflects appropriate understanding and sensitivity relating to the Armenian Genocide.” This indicates an evident clash with the doctrine of Turkish foreign policy. In the Turkish Daily News we have read two recent accounts by Eyüp Can and Burak Bekdil pointing out related arguments. They both drew attention to the urgent need for an action plan regarding the policy implications of the resolution. Can listened to his personal contacts in the American-Jewish community, which urged clearly “either do something or be ready to face the consequences.” Bekdil's insightful article showed what was likely to occur if the existing modus vivendi between the United States and Turkey concerning the “genocide bill” is damaged. He rightfully asserted that “a U.S. seal of approval” is pregnant with various imperative repercussions. Well said. A self-imposed embargo? Should the resolution passes, the Turkish military will have to consider the boycott of U.S. weapons, in accordance with their previous behavior after the adoption of the controversial law introducing imprisonment and monetary fines to anyone denying the “genocide” in France. In a way Turkey's anticipated policy response might be read as a self-imposed embargo. History will then repeat itself, since the consequences of the U.S. arms embargo from 1975 to 1978 are now evoked as inescapable. But is Turkey ready to pay this cost on the eve of critical developments in northern Iraq? Can Turkey afford to turn her back on the United States amid an effort to play a new and more dynamic political role in the Middle East? Can these projects be viable with a U.S.-free foreign and defense policy? To what extent will the membership talks with the European Union be affected? What exactly would a U.S.-less context mean for the general elections in November and hence future political stability? Likewise, what does the U.S. administration have in mind? The Zildjian secret alloy: The abovementioned dilemma that Turkey faces is caused by a resolution similar to the Zildjian secret alloy. The Zildjian family started a journey from Istanbul to the United States at the start of the 20th century. They were descendents of a 17th century Istanbul-born alchemist. His attempts to create gold by combining base metals led instead to a copper, tin and silver alloy then used to produce cymbals with unique sound qualities. The sound of the instruments was extraordinary. It is renowned as the Zildjian secret alloy. What is special about the Zildjian cymbals is that they bear the labels “Made in the U.S.” and “Turkish cymbals” and that they are manufactured under an Armenian name. Strikingly, the impending resolution will be decided by the components of this very same alloy: It will be made in the United Stated under an Armenian name and its resonance will be essentially felt in Turkey. Gökhan Yücel is a Ph.D. candidate reading politics at Oxford University and an occasional contributor to the TDN.

General Buyukanit speaks at DC reception: I have a complaint about Turks in US Speaking at a dinner reception held in his honor at the Turkish Embassy in Washington, DC, General Yasar Buyukanit of the Turkish Armed Forces addressed the Turkish community last night, chiding them for not enough action in working for Turkey's interests. Greeted with tremendous applause as he took the podium, General Buyukanit called on Turks in the diaspora to work harder in the face of the ongoing push by the Armenian diaspora to have the so-called Armenian genocide bill passed in the US Congress. Said Buyukanit: "Whatever happens from now afterwards is linked to you. Don't the people living outside the Turkish Republic have to come together and work harder to protect Turkey's national interests? Now I would like to address a complaint I have about you. If the voice of the Turks living in the diaspora would only rise as high as the others in the diaspora, the Armenians' claims of genocide would not have come out this way, nor would Turks have to face what they do now. Yes, please excuse me, but I have a complaint about you. The Turkish Republic would be that much stronger if people would gather to support the country's interests, rather than working against them." General Buyukanit's planned meeting with the chairman of the House Committee on Foreign Relations, Congressman Tom Lantos, was cancelled yesterday due to the heavy snowy conditions in the city.

Edo jan, which civilized and educated human beeing will belive that armenian diaspora bought cia and the us government?

Finally.. I have got the correct reply from the congressman today. Dear Mr.xxxxxxxx Thank you for contacting me about the Armenian Genocide. You will be pleased to know that I am a cosponsor of H. Res. 106, the Armenian Genocide Resolution, and I voted for similar legislation when it was considered in committee during the last Congress. I will work to ensure that the resolution is brought up in committee again and makes its way to the Floor of the House for a vote. On a related matter, you may be interested to know that I signed a letter to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan condemning the assassination of Armenian-Turkish editor Hrant Dink. I encourage the Turkish government to continue its investigation into the killing of Mr. Dink, and have also called on the prime minister to repeal Article 301, a section of the Turkish penal code making it a crime to "insult Turkishness," under which Mr. Dink had previously been prosecuted. Furthermore, I have also cosponsored H. Res.102, legislation which condemns the Dink assassination and calls for the vigorous prosecution of those responsible for his assassination. I appreciate the opportunity to share my views and look forward to hearing from you again in the near future. Sincerely, HOWARD L. BERMAN Member of Congress

Recently I came up to this video clip in internet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKlLV6211ZE It is about demolition of old head stones(not historical monuments) by armenians in Armenia. The autor is an azeri propagandist. I first thought that the pics are taken from an armenian cemetery in azerbaijan and they (azeris) want to spread lies again. But after the research I found out that those pics are from Armenia, Yerevan. Now they are using it as counter argument against the Jugha's Xachkar demolition. Claiming that we aremenians demolish azeri and our historical monuments. Allthough it is an act of vandalizm and it is done by certain individuals, azeris are trying to generalize it to whole armenian nation claiming that those head stones will be used to build a restaurant. Those words were taken from the armenian Journalist's(Edik Baghdasaryan) article from here http://www.hetq.am/eng/society/0604-tapan.html I also found out that hetq.am was spnsored by hyeforum members before. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=10764 It is great to have an independent and fair media. It is journalist's professional duty to bring the truth to the public. But I think before posting an article like that the autor should verify the political corectness of his writing. He should think about the consequences and the future impact of his "acsent". A small mistake or careless accusations and blames will make his article to food for azeri/turkish propaganda machine. The enemy is not sleeping. Especially after the recent news that turkey created "Special Bureau" for spreading misleading propaganda and lies in internet. http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=15...mp;#entry189730 Our cause should unite us and not divide. EDIT: I put the link to the video in CODE tags to avoid increasing it's google rank.

Well their conspiracies are theoretically and practically not possible. Noone will give them a credit. I guess they can bark as much as they want. That is because they have got no more arguments. "xextvogh@ prpurnerica kaxvum"