Harut

agree. there was a clear deman when the movement started in 1988. as i see it, nothing has changed in that area. the only changes happened in factual arena and all of them, as they appear, to armenians' favor: nkr used a soviet law to make demans, used another law to claim independence, the opposite side started armed movement, armenians de facto won the war, gained territories, etc... we've just conducted very poor diplomacy, didn't capitalized on this and resloved the issue quickly.

i believe he is reffering to the current Ararat Marz in Armenia, which is viewed by Kurds as part of Kurdistan.

raw or well-done? with glass of wine?

i think (i could be wrong) that's always been the official stance (plus other security assurances, etc...). btw, not unification with armenia, but sovereignty for artsakh. but it seems azeris don't agree to anything less than an azari flag in "khankandi" in one form or another (semi-autonomy, autonomy, etc... for artsakh)

i don't think there would be any immediate solutions/consecuenses, as such cyclical war-peace, compromise-no compromise situations have been going on since the ceasefire. and i don't see the problem resolved any time soon. but clearly the current administration has failed to deliver on its promises and doesn't even follow what it was preaching in 1998. actually their stance has change so many times that it's not even clear what they want.

thank you guys, thank you...

thank you people, thank you... Azat jan, unfortunately, the 20 girls didn't make it this time around (again...), but i sure had a great time surrounded by family and friends...

հետաքրքրե՞ց...

...because it's a nice song, i'll add another piece that i just remembered... ... urtits kuqas ushik-ushik, votqd e mtel vardi pushik, pachik m@ tur, paqd anushik, aman es mejlonts aghjin@, aman es mejlonts aghjin@, khlel em tsotsin mejin@... ...

եւս մեկ գիրք ավելացավ այն երկար ցուցակին, որ պետք է գրեմ... այս մեկը կոչվում է «մուրացիկ մի ազգ, քցողներ և մուֆտողներ»...

'muh', 'neh' are quite common, but the only place i've heard 'ya' is in the song my Yedesiatsi grandfathers and their siblings used to sing... but i'm not a wa speaker, so... ... Nstel e lvatsq k'ene ya, Yerkar maz@ tats k'ene ya, Elonts tghun achq k'ene ya, Aman es Mejlonts aghjin@, Aman es Mejlonts aghjin@, Khlel em tsotsin mijin@ ...

շատ սխալ քաղաքականություն ենք վարում... վերջը բարի լինի... իհարկե ապրեն ուրուգվայցիք և ուրուգվահայերը, բայց ավելի լավ չէր լինի՞, որ էդ հրապարակի անունը «Կոմիտաս», «Սարյան» կամ նման մի ուրիշ «դրական» անուն դնեին...

de qani vor es lurj teman, "poqrik ashakerti ser@ ir usutschuhu handep yev karmir xndzori tsagum@", sarqetsiq katak, mi yerku katak el hors koghmits... harsaniqi hajord or@, pesayi tsnoghner@ harsi tun mi hat kanach xndzor yev mi hat tandz en ugharkum... harsi tsnoghner@ zarmatsats hartsnum en te sa inch e nshanakum... pesayi tsnoghnern el patasxanum en... "kanach xndzor@, vor dzer aghjik@ aghjik cher... isk tandz@, vor da mer tghayi tandzin el cher..." mi debil tgha amusnanum e... harsaniqi hajord or@ hayr@ hartsnum e... "tgha jan, hars@ aghjik er?" "ayo..." "inch imatsar?" "tsitsik uner..."

մարդուս հոգին փոքր է՝ գարու մի հատիկ... խելքը քիչ, մեղքը շատ՝ հազարապատիկ... քջջում, կեղտի մեջ ոսկի որոնում... «շնից մազ, սատկած էշից նալ պոկում»...

offtopic... Mos, this oud looks like chipolino...

don't have the time to go into any details now (not that i'm an expert on it), but for a start, there is NO vs between EA and WA...

03.27.05 Law Enforcement Officers Tell Bush to Open Criminal Investigation In Schiavo Case Officer Jack McLamb (ret), the highest decorated police officer in the history of Phoenix, AZ, has joined with active and retired law enforcement officers asking Florida’s Gov. Jeb Bush to open a criminal investigation in the case of Terri Schindler-Schiavo, the disabled Florida woman who probate judge George W. Greer has sentenced to death by starvation and dehydration because she uses a feeding tube. McLamb is founder of the American Citizens and Lawmen’s Association (ACLA), publisher of Aid and Abet Police and Military Newsletter. He is a former hostage negotiator for the FBI. His letter to Gov. Bush follows: Dear Governor Bush, We active and retired, law enforcement police investigators, after reviewing the facts, evidence, witness statements, and investigative leads, in the Terri Schiavo case have come to the determination that there must be a criminal investigation into the Schiavo case. Our examination have caused we professional police investigators, to determine that there is evidence, witness statements (medical professionals and others) that point to the strong probability that the victim/witness Terri Schiavo was violently attacked on the day of her injuries and this is likely what caused her disability. There are medical professionals who substantiate that Mrs. Schiavo was strangled and the blood was cut off to her brain for at least 4 to 5 minutes causing her brain damage. X-rays show that she received broken bones and other injuries on or around the same time as her alleged health problem on the day in question. Testimony of witnesses state her husband Mr. Schiavo, even though being a trained nurse and did not start CPR at the scene of his wife's collapse. The emergency personal started CPR after they arrived which was some time after the "injuries" occurred. We have assessed the person of Mr. Schiavo thought the witness statements of professional medical personal who have come in contact with him. Most of these witnesses have had contact with him in the medical or Hospice environment where his wife has been warehoused over the last decade. We say "warehoused" after much research into the total lack of rehab and medical treatment for health problems such as infections, which he had demanded of the medical staff in each of these facilities. Additionally, a true detriment to any criminal investigation conducted after Mrs. Schiavo dies, is that Mr. Schiavo has scheduled a cremation of her body immediately after her death. Governor Bush, we are concerned that the best evidence, witness statements, in any criminal investigation into alleged criminal attempted murder, capital assault and continued abuse, will die with Mrs. Schiavo. We also believe this is why Mr. Schiavo has had to turn down millions of dollars from donors, if he would but place Mrs. Schiavo's care into the hands of her family because of his concern that she may live and tell what happened to her on that fateful day. According to witnesses who spent months with Mrs. Schiavo, she could and did communicate with them during their duty hours at the Hospice centers. Mr. Schiavo told these medical professionals he was wanting her to die. He also would cuss and say "Isn't that Bitch dead yet" and other words of disdain for his wife. As you have heard, several professional medical nurses state that Mrs. Schiavo also ate and drank liquids during their tour of duty. Governor Bush, this means that Mrs. Schiavo could be a witness to any possible crimes committed against her. Of course this will not be an option if she dies in the next hours. Our police investigators have read the witness statement of another professional medical staff member who said that on at least two occasions she and others believes that Mr. Schiavo tried to kill his wife while he was in her room with the doors closed. These witnesses and investigative leads must be interviewed. Governor Bush, we do not know what a full investigation into this case will determine, except we can be certain that more facts and evidence, will be discovered. But, one thing we are certain of, we police investigators need a hero at this time to save the life of the prime witness and possible victim in this case. We are asking you to be that hero. You do have the jurisdiction and power to start a criminal investigation into this case and suspend the death sentence of the prime witness. Governor Bush, this is off subject, but it is a subject we lawmen know something about and we wish to share this with you. In the life of a man there are a few times when he is called on by the people to do something heroic. As you know, because of fear, most people pass up those very few opportunities to do what is right and be a hero of the people. This is why we see so few Americans in the history books. We don't have to tell you historically (even recent history) of men in high office who have answered the call to be a hero of the people. Yes, very few. But, some were governors who went on to gain higher office because of the people's love and support for that heroic figure. Governor Bush, do you know that the Pope and the Vatican have mentioned Mrs.Schiavo's terrible crucifixion here in this Easter week with her mother Mary nearby, and some Priests have now begun to reference it to the crucifixion of a innocent man Jesus Christ, while His mother (Mary) stood nearby in anguish. Remember, Terri is a catholic and so is her family. You can be assured that most Catholics are going to side with the Pope. Governor, very large Protestant organizations are on the side of saving Mrs. Schiavo's life until further tests can be accomplished and she can have real rehab to see if she can improve. We have a letter of a very large national Jewish organization that wants Mrs. Schiavo saved. We can make all this available to you and your staff. But, Mrs. Shiavo's website has most of this material on it at www.terrisfight.org. What we law enforcement officers wish to point out to you is that we professional investigators have our reasons to save this woman's life, i.e. we because she is a very important witness and the possible victim of a capitol crime, but the world has heard of this case at this time. We even have a news article from a big Russia publication about American politicians letting a innocent women starve to death. Governor Bush, the world and certainly most Americans want a hero today....this hour. The person who saves Mrs. Schiavo's life and gives her due process and a chance to tell her story of what actually happened to her will go down in history books. It is also true that after the books come out, and this story gets out about the facts, evidence of the conspiracy of government against this innocent young women.... the people who allow her to die will also go down in history. It will mean the downfall of some in high places for their not wanting to step up and do their duty to protect the people and bring to justice those who were the possible suspects in her demise. Sir, I know that we are only law enforcement officers, but doubt us not, collectively we have been around a long time and know what we are talking about. There are already those in Hollywood who we know that are interested in the evidence and witness's into Terri Schiavo's side of this story. Mel Gibson has issued a public letter on his own stationary to have our government leaders save her life. Some of our police association members are in contact with him and his family. Governor, you are a good man. You could be a great man. There is no question this is a international situation and a heart warmer for any hero who steps forward to save this innocent, who "Pontious Pilate" (government leaders) has washed his hands of....here in this Easter week. We police investigators look at all criminal cases as ...."does this case have jury appeal". Dear Governor, if any case has it.... this case has jury (massive public appeal). Not only do you have the law on your side (one example - Judge Greer violated three state of Florida statutes in not defending Mrs. Schiavo as a disabled person when he pulled the tube of Mrs. Schiavo) ...we have the State Statutes, ....but you have Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson and other great leaders on your side. These great men and others, on numerous occasions, have stated that the three areas of government, Executive, Judicial and Legislative, are to be separate and equal. You have publicly taken a lower and subordinate position to the judiciary - when this is not the case. We criminal police investigators (and your Florida State Police) offer you a sound reason to be the people's hero and stop this young woman's horrible death thought dehydration, i.e.... THERE MUST BE A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS CASE BEFORE THE PRIME WITNESS DIES! There are too many unanswered questions! Some of them may be criminal! Governor Bush, you have your future before you, however some of that future may be linked to a young innocent who will die on your watch in the next few hours or days. We believe in you, and we, along with millions of Americans, pray you will do the right thing, save a life, secure your witness... and be the people's hero. We need a hero today. Thank you for your efforts on behalf of all the people, even the weak and disabled. Very sincerely, Law officer Jack McLamb, Ret. President of the American Citizens & Lawmen Association. http://www.theempirejournal.com/327902_law...nt_officers.htm

Subject: love this advanced directive From the St. Petersburg Times.... Living will is the best revenge By ROBERT FRIEDMAN, Perspective Editor Published March 27, 2005 Like many of you, I have been compelled by recent events to prepare a more detailed advance directive dealing with end-of-life issues. Here's what mine says: * In the event I lapse into a persistent vegetative state, I want medical authorities to resort to extraordinary means to prolong my hellish semiexistence. Fifteen years wouldn't be long enough for me. * I want my wife and my parents to compound their misery by engaging in a bitter and protracted feud that depletes their emotions and their bank accounts. * I want my wife to ruin the rest of her life by maintaining an interminable vigil at my bedside. I'd be really jealous if she waited less than a decade to start dating again or otherwise rebuilding a semblance of a normal life. * I want my case to be turned into a circus by losers and crackpots from around the country who hope to bring meaning to their empty lives by investing the same transient emotion in me that they once reserved for Laci Peterson, Chandra Levy and that little girl who got stuck in a well. * I want those crackpots to spread vicious lies about my wife. * I want to be placed in a hospice where protesters can gather to bring further grief and disruption to the lives of dozens of dying patients and families whose stories are sadder than my own. * I want the people who attach themselves to my case because of their deep devotion to the sanctity of life to make death threats against any judges, elected officials or health care professionals who disagree with them. * I want the medical geniuses and philosopher kings who populate the Florida Legislature to ignore me for more than a decade and then turn my case into a forum for weeks of politically calculated bloviation. * I want total strangers - oily politicians, maudlin news anchors, ersatz friars and all other hangers-on - to start calling me "Bobby," as if they had known me since childhood. * I'm not insisting on this as part of my directive, but it would be nice if Congress passed a "Bobby's Law" that applied only to me and ignored the medical needs of tens of millions of other Americans without adequate health coverage. * Even if the "Bobby's Law" idea doesn't work out, I want Congress - especially all those self-described conservatives who claim to believe in "less government and more freedom" - to trample on the decisions of doctors, judges and other experts who actually know something about my case. And I want members of Congress to launch into an extended debate that gives them another excuse to avoid pesky issues such as national security and the economy. * In particular, I want House Majority Leader Tom DeLay to use my case as an opportunity to divert the country's attention from the mounting political and legal troubles stemming from his slimy misbehavior. * And I want Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist to make a mockery of his Harvard medical degree by misrepresenting the details of my case in ways that might give a boost to his 2008 presidential campaign. * I want Frist and the rest of the world to judge my medical condition on the basis of a snippet of dated and demeaning videotape that should have remained private. * Because I think I would retain my sense of humor even in a persistent vegetative state, I'd want President Bush - the same guy who publicly mocked Karla Faye Tucker when signing off on her death warrant as governor of Texas - to claim he was intervening in my case because it is always best "to err on the side of life." * I want the state Department of Children and Families to step in at the last moment to take responsibility for my well-being, because nothing bad could ever happen to anyone under DCF's care. * And because Gov. Jeb Bush is the smartest and most righteous human being on the face of the Earth, I want any and all of the aforementioned directives to be disregarded if the governor happens to disagree with them. If he says he knows what's best for me, I won't be in any position to argue. WARNING! This message is intended for the specified recipient/recipients only. Any person receiving this e-mail transmittal by mistake who willfully releases any information which might injure, defame or cause possible breach of security, and/or theft of monetary value with the intent of assuming the identity of the original sender's name and/or e-mail address will be convicted and prosecuted under the new laws and ordinances as specified by the Homeland Security Department of the United States of America. Have a nice day!!!!

some Masis series... http://forum.armkb.com/attachment.php?atta...ntid=4590&stc=1 http://forum.armkb.com/attachment.php?atta...ntid=4591&stc=1 http://forum.armkb.com/attachment.php?atta...ntid=4592&stc=1 http://forum.armkb.com/attachment.php?atta...ntid=4597&stc=1

Azat, mi posti mej amen inch asetsir... sovamah anel@ sxal a, srskel spanel@ sxal a, voghj pahel@ sxal a... ha ba inchn a jisht? tanein poghots qaylatsnein, @ngner meqenayi tak merner?

it would be sad if we couldn't do that, especially after seeing macedonia's bad performances against andorra...

armenia-andorra 2:1 only 2:1? now that's bad...

i've had a horrible impression today... i realized that i don't have daily impressions anymore...

http://forum.armkb.com/attachment.php?atta...ntid=4636&stc=1

some lyrics... Արթուր Մեսչյան ԶԱՐՄԱՆՈՒՄ ԵՄ ԵՍ Աղբյուրից մաքուր ջուրը խմելիս՝ ես կհագենամ և հետո մի պահ կառչած ներկային՝ ես կզարմանամ, թե ինչպես եղավ, որ մեր շուրջ հանկարծ ամենը փոխվեց ասում են՝ ամեն երազանք ու հույս նորից պղտորվեց: Զարմանում եմ ես մեր առջև փակվող հազար դռներից, զարմանում եմ ես մեզ բաժան անող հազար շերտերից, զարմանում եմ ես և նորից-նորից ես չեմ հասկանում և գլուխս կախ ամբողջ իմ կյանքում ազգս եմ փնտրում: Ես չեմ զարմանում նորից արթնացած բյուր ճիվաղներից, զարմանում եմ ես նորից համբերող իմ ժողովուրդից, զարմանում եմ ես և չեմ վախենում օտար թշնամուց, խորանը երկրիս ներսից էր քանդկում. և արդեն վաղուց: Ժանտախտի օրոք քեֆ էին անում մի համատարած, լրբերը վերցրին իրնենց երեսից դիմակն ամոթխած, սպանվում է սարում այրվող փամփուշտով չքնաղ պատանին՝ դատապարտելով աճյունը սառած մի ճոխ թաղումի: Զարմանում եմ ես, որ նորից-նորից գլուխը կորցրած՝ ընթանում ենք մենք անցած ուղիով արդեն բթացած... զարմանում եմ ես, որ այս աշխարհում ոչինչ չի փոխվում, անիվը սելի նորից կոտրվաց իր սիրած փոսում: Զարմանում եմ ես դատարկ ու պարապ ինչ որ հույսերից, զարմանում եմ ես, որ չեմ զարմանում էլ ոչ մի բանից, ժպիտը դեմքին կանգնած անտարբեր այս մեծ աշխարհից և մարդկանց նորից անդունդը տանող ճանապարհիներից: