Harut

ye, ye, Rubo, we can tell you're old. btw, Tata does NOT sound turkish at all.

quote:Originally posted by QRISTINE:Hi Harut If you really want to stay pure Armenian you can be pure Armenian wherever you are. hi Qristine i'm not really sure what you are talking about. purity of what? if lifestyle, then it's radiculous because nobody, i mean nobody, today lives with pure Armenian lifestyle. on the second though, what is pure Armanian, or even American, lifestyle anyways? judging from the topic of the thread, i would guess you are talking about purity of blood. but that it's radiculous as well, because i'm, for instance, always mistaken for persian, but my sister is more like russian with blue eyes and blond hair. so, i'm not sure what were the kinds of the bloods that are running through my vains, but it's Armenian now. and has been so for many-many generations now. so there isn't any pure Armanian blood really. on the second thought, if you marry a non-Armanian, you don't lose your "purity", your children do. anyways, i don't want to get carried away. just to say that there isn't anything pure Armenian. there is traditional Armenian. and you always can stick to those traditions. but then, traditions change, so even being loyal to traditions don't garantee you "purity". quote:And first of all I dont need your opinion about staying or going to Armenia.you see, i'm so generous guy, that i give out opinions right and reft.take it, you might need it some day.

sorry, i meant to say "i hope you were joking though"

quote:Originally posted by THOTH:No Hovsep you have it all wrong. If you do not order your proper quota of pizza you will fall under suspicion. It is then when the moniotoring will begin. So its pizza once a wek for you or you are not a true American! THOTH, how would they know that i started buying more pizza, if i'm not under monitoring already? ps: i hope you were joke though.

By Peter Eichstaedt Atom Egoyan is to be congratulated for his amazing film, Ararat, which was premiered in Yerevan in late September. It is a film about the Armenian genocide and it is long over due. Hopefully it will increase and expand awareness worldwide as to the awful suffering that occurred at the hands of the Turks. The film is about the making of a film about the Armenian genocide. The story moves effortlessly between the actors' lives on and off the set, and a host of characters in and around the making of the movie. Ararat is about denial. First and foremost, the Turkish and global denial of the Armenian genocide. There is denial of the realities of the relationships, past and present, between the characters in the film. There is denial among the countries of the world of the realities of the Armenian history and culture, and it is this denial that the film addresses. It was difficult to watch the 18-year-old Raffi, played by David Aplay, seek a connection to his distant past by making a clandestine trip to the western side of Ararat and to the historical chapel which he says is where it all began. What troubles me is that the film itself is an example of a larger denial - a denial of the reality that is Armenia today. Not one frame, not one scene was shot in Armenia. When I first saw the film, I was dumfounded at this omission. When Raffi goes on what we learn is a personal journey to find his roots, he goes to Turkey! Why not Armenia? Why not Yerevan? He never sets foot in Armenia. The closest we come to seeing anything remotely related to what is Armenia is a large, wall-size photograph of Mount Ararat viewed from the Armenian side and it is only the backdrop for a set. This curiosity is an example of the larger problem that exists among the Armenian Diaspora, primarily those in North America. The fact that they live in these countries is because their grandparents and great grandparents fled Turkey because of the genocide. Their roots, ancestral and psychological, exist in Turkey, not Armenia. Since their primary psychological connection with "Armenia" is with the genocide, this explains the Diaspora obsession with obtaining global recognition of the genocide. I fully support this effort and have and will continue to work for it. But too often this recognition becomes the most important thing and pushes much more important issues for Armenia to the back of the line. The reality is that even if the United Nations adopts a resolution recognizing the genocide, nothing will change in Armenia. The economy will not improve. The education system will not improve. Factories will not reopen. Streets will not be paved. The water system will not improve. The telephone system will not improve. Pensions will not be paid. The best and brightest among the young people of Armenia will continue to seek their futures outside the country. Nothing will change. Those who live in Armenia, the real Armenia, know this. But those who don't live here don't understand this because they live in another reality. I have lived and worked in Armenia for two years. It has been difficult at times, but I have enjoyed every minute. But, it is all too clear to me that the depth of the denial of the Armenian reality among the Diaspora is staggering. Most think of Armenia in some glowing, mythological terms, as if it is some visionary Garden of Eden. One scene in the movie illustrates this point. The film-within-the film's director, played by French-Armenian singer Charles Aznavour, sits in the back of a white limousine, dressed in a white suit and is teary-eyed as he nibbles on pomegranate seeds, saying they remind him of his heritage. What? This typifies an unfortunate attitude Diaspora has about Mother Armenia. Living in comfort and relative luxury in foreign countries, they sigh a lot about their poor friends and relatives. Meanwhile, those who live in Armenia choke on the bitter fruit of reality every day. I have a modest proposal. Each person who calls himself an Armenian and who does not live in Armenia must make a sacred vow to visit at least once. No. Not just visit. Live here. Six months. Maybe a year. This single infusion of people, talent, and perhaps money will do more to change the future of Armenia than 1,000 movies. (Peter Eichstaedt is a writer and editor and directs a journalism program based in Yerevan.) http://www.armenianow.com/2002/november15/outsideeye/

inqnavstahutyun, apagayi handep huys, jisht qaghaqakanutyun, yev iharke POGH!!!

quote:Originally posted by MosJan:Iynpes vor Hy@ mnum e Hye / chnayats vro yes ktrakanoren dem em Hyeri Kronapox linelun - manavand iys verchin 7-10 tarinerum yerb poxvum darnum en buda - morman - YhoFa. da inchvor ter nuynisk hamarum em "davajanutyun" mer naxnineri handep. MOvses nuyn dzevov karogh enq "davajan" hamarel nayev Trdat III-in yev Grigor Lusavorchin (chnayats vor na iski hay el chi eghel) qristonya darnalu hamar.

i can't wait till TigrannessIII takes the test.

i always knew that adults were freaks, but never thought that this much. darn... i'm turning freaky myself.

Qristine, no offense, but if you worry so much about staying pure Armenian, why do you just go back to Armenia, where you'll be safer from this mixture "disease"?

quote:Originally posted by Varduhi:Harut no, thank god thats not me and why would i lie? i mean i dont really know anyone in this forum so whats the point of lieing. i don't know. it's just that your opening sentance didn't sound to realistic. I have this two best friend...

MJ already gave the possible Armenian root to that last name. i just want to make a note that one's last name need not to end in "ian/yan" to make it Armenian. if their last name is "Khougaz"(Ghougas) then it is very possible that it was like that even when they identified themselves as Armenians.

btw, i hope that Kelly, as you name her, is not really you.

Varduhi, get both John and Kelly drunk, really drunk. and make them have sex. and like that for few more times... everything will settle.

in general, i think interethnical marriages are ok, but very complicated. after all there is more to marriage than just sex and care. you will have to live possiblely whole your life with that person. and if you don't enjoy the same music and food, if you don't have similar lifestyles, if you don't have similar viewpoints on life, if you don't enjoy the same things in life, if you don't appriciate the same things about life, if you don't have the same religion, if you don't have the same child upbringing proccess, etc etc etc, then it will get really complicated.

quote:Originally posted by Sip:if the parents (or their families) are very insistent that the childeren maintain their culture... if the parents are very insistent that the childeren maintain their culture then they won't mary a non-armenian. of course, unless the non-armenian partner is "armenianized" him/herself.

Economic Left/Right: -2.75 Authoritaria0n/Libertarian: -0.51 chart

just about the time for the good movies to start.

guys, i need some help. i'm taking my first DB course. we're in the 3rd week, still studying modeling and such, but will move to SQL with Oracle 8i soon. here it is. for the term project i need to think of a business, that is create a business scenario, and based on that story develop a DB, go through each step: modeling, drowing diagram (ERD, DSD, etc.), normalization, etc.(i don't know what else there is as of now), writing the script to create the tables, and finally write queries. everything is fine. i like the subject. i'm quite good at it as of now. i have a feeling that i can handel it easily. but... the probelm is that i can't come up with a scenario. can anyone help? i need real or imaginary company that could use DB. kind of small business that would need only 8-10 tables, with probably 10-15 fields max. so, if you can help, please write a paragraph or two about what company it is, what it does, and what the company needs DB for (to track its sales, to track its customers, to regulate its sales, etc). thank you

hello. is it me you're looking for?!

quote:Originally posted by Azat:Is it really 95 for the student version? Are there some limitations on it? it's not a student version. it's the normal version. i don't recall what it is called, personal/professional edition. and it's without any limitations. but not everybody offers that deal. i can get the sites that have that deal if you want. actually they have that deal in our bookstore as well. quote:BTW, How do you download a 4GB software off the net? The software comes on a DVD and there are 2 additional CD that contain some additional stuff.universityi t1-i jan@ sagh lini.click download, lock the computer, go to lecture, come back at the end of the day. bayts krrisner@ "sniffer"ner en "install" arel. miqich "extensive" download es anum accountd cancel en anum. piti gnas admini mot neroghutyun xndrelu. [ November 12, 2002, 11:42 PM: Message edited by: Harut ]

hmmm, actually it's getting quite good reviews here in our uni. almost all the profs are recommending to get hold of one and start heading to .NET way. although, it's not yet tounght here. oh, btw, if you're thinking about buying the whole package (the studio) there's no need to pay around $1000. just find a student that will buy for you. you can get hold of it for $95 if you're a student of some kind. on the oder hand, don't even pay that $95. there are a lot of "good" site out there that already have them for download for FREE.

this "couple of years" is like standard thing. this year i replaced my printer and monitor after using them for roughly 2 years. they both went useless. repair today costs more than getting a new one. unless of course you have a real good product and don't want to replace it. i bought my printer for $100. after 2 years it stopped printing. i tried to fix it myself and messed it up even farther. i took it to repair shop, they asked $150 for it. and i just went and bought the newest one of that series for $100. ------- i hate my professional/technical writing class. i started writing like a robat.

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