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It seem that the Turkish hierarchy has problems with the truth in may areas. Just read what Halacoglu states in the article inked below. Ataturk's private life seems to be odd indeed. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4235691.stm

What is wrong with these people. Why do they take religious scenes and degrade them so? What has become of our sense of propriety?

You for real? Then please send it to the Armenian newspapers to print. You can remain anonymous, if you wish. Or post it in this forum.

"Crimes Against Ataturk" If one ever doubted that the Turkish nation is in a state of mass psychosis this should clinch the diagnosis. What in heaven's name is a crime against a man long dead? Is it a "crime against Ataturk" to deny what he stated very clearly in an interview to the Los Angeles Times in 1926, that the Young Turk leadership had indiscriminantly massacred the Christian population?

Armen, Dreadlocks and all? I have pictured Gamavor as a military academy type and now you "break my bubble."

Any Armenian who travels to Turkey or through Turkey is a fool. When I went to Hayastan, I went the long way around. I made sure that we never were over Turkish or Azeri airspace. God forbid, if we had to crash land in Turkish territory.

This is a very reasonable request. Germany has come clean and made amends. If the Turks have a problem with the Balkan nations, let them bring that up. But what happened to the Armenians can not be swept under the rug, if Turkey is to join the EU.

Harut is one of my heroes. Too bad that he has the Billy Carter/Roger Clinton syndrome, a brother who is considered somewhat undesirable in the eyes of some Armenians. Otherwise, he would be a fine candidate for some US office or even to replace Kocharyan.

Nakharar, Ditto for my family.

Do y'all think that Bush has closer sympathies with the Shiite Moslems or the Sunnis? You realize that his whole agenda has to do with two things, religion and oil interests.

I predicted this shortly after the US entered Iraq. People thought that I was mentally deranged.

Catholic Armenians are a different breed. Do a survey on their careers and you will see that they statistically diverge from those of the Gregorian faith. The social interactions of those in the family are also different. Ditto the Evangelicals.

So sad that the Armenian power brokers view you as an enemy. You have a vision that will make for a better future. Why do they think that the Armenian mouse can thumb it's finger at the Turkish elephant? That is not to say that history should be swept under the rug, or that amends should not be made. Solely that we should recognize that there were atrocities against Turks in the Balkans that set the stage for the Genocide.

This guy is not an "anybody." He is the highly choreographed grandson of Connecticut US Senator Prescott Bush, who had interests selling armaments to both the Allied and Axis forces during WWII. He is totally a product of Madison Avenue. The Republicans passed-up a genuine war hero in 2000 to nominate this guy mainly due to the behind-the-scenes activities his father. Every word he utters has been filtered through a political prism by his closest advisors. Absolutely nothing is left to chance. This not some common Texas born-again Christian cowboy. This is one who is "lock, stock and barrel" a member of America's aristocracy.

A nation of close to 70 million, viewing a nation of 3 million with a diaspora of 5 million as a "tsunami." The tsunami is the revealing of truth about what transpired 1915-1923. What these guys fear is the truth. Innocent women, children and elderly slaughtered like sheep. Ottoman patriots, even Zohrab who had saved Talaat's life, murdered in cold blood. Wholesale confiscation of land and property, upon which the good life of a large part the Turkish elite is based. Crooks in fear of getting caught with their "pants down."

What actions is he laying the groundwork for? What do y'all think?

Things change. If he is targeted with a sweep of media stories abbout his extra-marital affairs, it will have a negative effect on his numbers in his conservative district.

This statement smacks of "black gold." Burton is interested in oil interests. This follows the Atkinson report, another oil related proclamation. The Turkish government is terrified and they are grasping at straws, using the Azeri situation. Burton has a long and soiled history. Perhaps we should work to see him defeated next time around. His seat comes up every two years, you know.

You fail to note that Norman Stone is presently a Professor at Bilkent Univerity in Ankara.

No mention of "the events of 1915-1923" are included here, not even a whitewashed version.

Hey Quebec (Domino I assume), Why are you wasting yor time on these forums? Please get some academic credentials (if you don't already have them) and obtain an academic position and then write some books. I can see that you are a real expert on the Genocide, close to Dadrian. Our community really needs you in a more broad based media than these forums. I am totally serious!

Mr. Baliozian, Any community, region or state which can not cultivate an adequate number of jobs that provide a decent wage that allows for basic needs will experience an exodus of population. When it's borders are closed, there will be illegal emigration. As for assimilation, this is caused by the myopia of Armenian cultural leaders who do not understand the intricacies of engendering Armenian identity while accepting the host cultures. Put the young in a "cultural prison" and they will escape. The majority do.

Mr. Baliozian, While we have to go back at least 600 years to find Armenian jurisdiction over any part of present day Turkey (with the exception of Kars and Ardahan), we have only to go back to 1915-1922 to find legal confirmation of bank accounts, property, etc. confiscated from Armenian Ottoman citizens. Many Armenians were only nominally Armenian. For most purposes you could have considered them Christian Turks. Some were Catholic, were European in outlook, had joint Turkish/Christian names and were totally enmeshed with the Turkish hierarchy. They were killed nevertheless and all their worldly possessions confiscated. You and I are talking "apples and oranges" here. The outcome of what transpired prooves that the Turkish arguments have absolutely no justification. Armenians were targeted en masse solely for their ethnicity without regard for their political viewpoints. Krikor Zohrab had saved the life of Talaat, but the authorities had no regard for that. If the Turkish minority had been treated poorly in the Balkans and Greece, then it is those governments who should make amends to them. Bottom line is that Turkey should not be able to prosper on the carcasses of butchered Armenians.

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