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There was olso one Armenian general from German side. His surname was Gulderian or something like this. He commanded German army during invasion on Poland. I thing then he was killed be Hitler.
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By the way it's said that Armenians are one of the most clever nation all over the world. HURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA .....Bu I don't think it about myself.
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Dear Bellthecat you are right. We have one problem that we olways try to find everywhere some Armenian. Armenians are small nation and it's inpossible that every famoust people all over the world was Armenian or had some Armenians roots. For exemple did you heard that Princess Diana was in 1/10 or something like this Armenian ? I don't think so and what does it mean 1/10? I'm glad only that it's not said for exemple 1/100 or 1/100000. It would be very ridiculous.
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I heard from my teacher from Universty that there was Turkish millitaru zone and they din't aloved any one to come in. They did't want even archeologist there. Of course archeologist from other country. I thing that goverment don't make any reconstruction. When I see the pictures of Ani made years ago and now there is no change. Beside of it there is a lot great Armenian monuments in Anatolia and they are slowly destroyed. A lot of churches became to be mosque or even if they din't there are no crosses on them. I read some turkish books about monuments of Anatolia and Ani. They say of cours that it was build by Gagig I or other king but they never write that it was Armenian king and that Ani was one of capitols of Armenia. They want Armenian tradition and histry of this region to be forgotten.
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Some historicians said that there was about 180 thousand or even 300 thousand killed Armenians during 1895/1896 killings. Because of it Sultan Abdulhamid was called "Red Sultan" or "Bloody Sultan". For exemple in Zeytun was killed in this time about 7 thousand people, in Sasun about 15 thousand and in Van 20 thousand. Did you saw film "America America"? In the begining this events are showed.
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I wanted be a pilot but when I was 6 years old I started wear glasses and this dream became unreal.Bu it was'nt problem for me because I decide to be a soldier. Then when I realized that girls are not soldiers I wanted to be policeman. This was my dream untill maybe 11 years old. Now I'm working in office but I want be just simple housewife with a lot of children. Ha Ha Ha Ha!!! I will make my own battalion.
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Sorry if there are some mistakes. I don't use English offen and because of it I make mistakes.
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Armenian,on border Ani,near Ani ruins Armenia made stone quarry. Ani which is under protection at last is dangerously collapse under eart tremors.Cathedral from 967 and Church of Tigran Honest cracked and rocks become to fall down. Ani is located on the border with Armenia near Kars and it stay under secret Armenian agression. Everyday explode Armenian dinamites wchich cause artificial earth quakes. Ani ruins from 9-10 century which are near Arpacay river are cracked from hundreds of dinamites. Historical values which can't be Armenian are devastated. People from this region which is very restless because of hundreds of exloded dinamites said that Ani and they live among 3-5 earth quokes made by Armenian everyday. Consist from Split Ani ruins which are made by different civilization are located 45 km from Kars and they are under protection of Culture Ministry. Excavation and reconstruction goes on.150m from Arpacay river which trace out Armenian-Turkish border Armenia build stone quarry. Armenian "favourite" cathedra from 967 and Tigran Honest church from 1215 slowly decay. Made from big and shapely rocks churches become break up. With every dinamite explode some rocks fall down. 10 year continue 36 year old Mehmed Kara from Ocak village which is near Ani ruins during last 10 year live under explode dinamites. He said that Armenian stone quarry was located 1 km from Ani but they could see it from their village. Now it's closed more than ever. "3-5 time a day we can hear dinamites. Not only we but olso Esenkent 5 km from here, Arasoglu 4 km from here can hear it" Sometimes there is earth quoke. Every family, children can feel it. Because of dinamites this historical monuments are destroyed. We took it from Byzantium Doc. Erol Kurcuoglu from Department of Turkish-Armenian relations of Ataturk University said that region Ani in 1064 was conquered by Alparslan. Ani during about 1000 years was related with turkish histry, culture and civilization. Alparslan didn't conquer Ani from Armenians but from Byzantium. Today in Ani dinamites explode. It's very embarrasing situation ant it's prove Armenian agression. Armenia try to change historical proofs but because now is hungry and poor can't do enything. Ey Ani better you will be ruined than live under this opression Ani from Sassanid Kings and the Muslims took possesion Armenian King Hairy Ohan. Hairy Ohan was very cruel king. For every reason he burnt,ruined and murdered people. In this time Ani which was rich and developed town became destroyed. Under the rules of Hairy Ohan every bride from town was brought to King and after one night with him was given back to her husband. Because of it life for muslims was very difficult and they didn't married their sons and dougters. One day one man Odabasoglu wanted to married his son with one girl from town. He think that he will find some solution and choose one girl for his son. He prepered nuptial chamber, lighted fire.prepered cakes,brought sheep with new-born lamb and put in the front of them fresh grass. In this time king heard about weding and waited for brinking him bride. Bacause girl did'nt come he was very ungry. He sent one man to Odabasoglu tent. Odabasoglu wanted to in exchange of bride give all his riches but it did'nt satisfy King.King order to hung Odabasoglu in the centre of town. In this moment Odabasoglu said "Ey Ani better you will be ruined than live under this oppresion" When he finished this words town colapsed. Historical treasures Remment of town which is in Valley of Arpacay are located 45 km from Kars and Turkish-Armenian border. Ani and especial fortess from middle ages as a town become very important. Town fell to Kamsarakan and then to Bagradit family. It became culture and economy center. In 1044 town which was sovereghtly Byzantian conquered Alparslan. Then it was Georgian (1124) and Mongol (1239). In 1319 after earth queke it's importance finished. After Prof. Marr excavation (1892-1893) fixed that histry of Ani reach Bronze age.Prof Balkan during excavation (1965-67) in Ani wchich we can see Syrian, Persian, Arab and Turkish influence the most interesting exemple of Bagradit architecture is Basilic and build on greek cross Cathedral (989-1001). Mosaic designs of Ebulmammeran Mosque (1195), Menucehr Mosque (11c.) and Kervanseray (12c.) show their connexion with Selcuk arts. UNESCO matter Armenian stone quarry with it's explode dinamites should be stop. 25.04.2001 UNESCO sent to Turkish Ministry petition in which they wanted to starting reconstruction. It have been done since 1995 by Baran Building Turizm Enterprice and Commercial Ltd. by archtect Mehmet Tuvel. In petition from May 1999 was taken up the problem of explode dinamites and destruction of Ani. On 27.05.1999 Culture Ministry through Ministry of Foreingh Affairs ones more tried to solve this problem. In petition said that from beggining of Dinamites explode till today with cathedra, colored church and city-wall olso first in Anatolia turkish muslim temple Menucahr Mosque and it's minarets split. This universal and unknow culture value can be world heritage but now it's impossible because of a lot of question between Turkey and Armenia. This situation must be stoped. Near so special monuments with dinamites stones are broken. Until Millenium of Ani in Paris it was't know. Make similar Naif Ahbeyoglu from ANAP party who is a chief of Kars Provincial Office said that in Ani should be showe owner of this culture heritage. "building Ani in 987 starded King Smbat".Ahbeyoglu saw the photo of cathedra which was build years ago in 1010 by King Gagig and said "yesterday we found treasure and now they showed. Ani is for Armenian like Kaaba. They starded to build church in Gumri similar to ani cathedra. I thing that they take away stones from here and carry it there, If the border with Armenia will be open this abscure quarrel will grow stronger." Nation heritage Dr Enver Konukcu from Sciente-Literature History Departmant of Ataturk University said "those churches are not only Armenian, there are olso Georgian. Turkish goverment should take away what was in histry.
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I would like to have Armenian church in my neighbourhood. All this candle lighing outside and Armenian liturgy.I so miss it. And of course this Armenian neigbours drinking coffee with you every morning. Old women telling your fortunes from it's glass. Dream....It's only dream... In Poland you don't have neigbours because they treat you like stranger. Maybe sometimes teel you hello and it's all. In Warsaw is only ortodox Russian church and in Poland there is only one Armenian Catolic church. In Poland live a lot of Armenians but in spide of it there is any Armenian Apostolic church. Armenian have a very bad opinion here. When you tell someone that you are Armenian they ask you "O?! you have conection with mafia!!!!" Ones I had Armenian neigbours for 3 mounts. I help them a lot because they were Armenian. After they leaved I heard that they wanted to rop my home and told very bad things about me to other people I was very sad. Sometimes I think maybe it's better to not have any Armenian neigbours. But now I have one 5 minutes walking from my home. And it's GREAT!!!!!!!!
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What was the Armenian population of Kayseri (Caeserea)?
Taguhi replied to bellthecat's topic in Help
You can find it in one book: Mc Carthy Justin "Muslims and Minorities, the population of Ottoman Anatolia and the end of the Empire" New York 1983 -
why don't armenians like the armenians from Turkey?
Taguhi replied to armeniangirl83's topic in Diaspora
I olso heard some bad opinions about Armenians from Turkey. Some Armenian from Armenia said me that they are Turks not Armenians. Maybe because there are a lot of Armenians in Turkey who don't want to show their Armenians roots. If you live in America and you are turkish Armenian maybe others think that you must be Armenian fanatic, dashnak or some Armenian socialist. I read some of your replies. You show your aversion to Turcs very strong and maybe some people are afraid of it. They think that your only subject to talk is Genocide and consider you as a little bit fanatic or even rasist. Maybe olso some Armenians think why two millions of Turkish Armenians died in Genocide and your family not. I don't know. Personally I like Turkish Armenians. My mother-in law's family was from Alashkert. They lost 90% of their family. His grandfather was one of Dashnaks who in revenge preper killing of Turkish leader. Now I don't remember which one. In Turkey were born olso a lot of great Armenian people like Andranik, Hrair,Grigor Zohrab, Eruhan, Ruben Zardarian and a lot more. Don't worry you have a great heritage. -
Dear Bellthecat, I will try translate it but it will take a little time because I have exam in two days and now I don't have time to do it.I try to do it on friday or saturday. Best regards Tagush
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I have one turkish friend. Her name is Emine. She has very sweet temper and always want to help everyone.After her boyfrien's dead she became very religious but olso din't changed her behaviour.I knew olso some other girls. They were tipical village girls and very simple-hearted. When I was in Turkey I made friend with one family but they were Arabs from Hatay. However all of them did'nt know anything about Armenia and Armenians.
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I know some Turks who don't deny the Armenian Genocide and want to know something more about it. I met even some turkish people in Turkey who are not affraid to talk about it.But there are olso a lot of people who don't heard about it and they can't belive that it was happend. Sometimes Armenians warning me to not tell in Turkey that I'm Armenian. But I always say it. Sometimes some intelligent Turks starting to tell me about great Armenians in turkish history or something like this. But most of them don't know anything just that Armenian are their neigbours. One day when I said that I'm Armenian one turkish man asked IN ARMENIAN "Hayes du?" I was so suprised. He said that his best friend is an Armenian and he learned some words from him.
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How many of you could have a turkish friend,husband or wife? Have we got a lot of antipathy to modern Turks or not?
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What about you guys? Would you like to have a turkish girfriend?
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Maybe it can be Vartan Mamikonian or Tigran Mets.
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I olso heard about war and mobilization in Armenia. But one of my friends is now a soldier in Kharabah and he said it's not true.
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Doc jan, Unfortunatly I don't have any sister. My husband has 3 sister but they are not similar to me. What about Polish women... They are sometimes beatifull but I don't like their character and style of life.
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I have blue eyes and I don't have dark hair rather middle dark. My father is Polish but he is more dark then I or my mother who is blond. Among Armenian from Armenia in Poland I always must explain who I am. They olways say me that I'm not be similar to Armenian because I don't have black eyes or hair. In Armenia I don't have such problems. When I was in Turkey, Greece or other country when I said that I from Poland I always listened : Yes.. from Poland but ofcourse you are not a Polish! I don't understand some of Armenians. You must be black like niger to be consider us an Armenian? I don't speak very very good Armenian but better then a lot of Armenians from Armenia and I know history and read a lot of Armenian books which was never seen by a lot of Armenians. Can I feel myself Armenian or not? Why Armenian from Hayastan think that they are more Armenian then other from diaspora?.
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I learned Turkish in University. First year was terrible with a lot of turkish grammar. Then in fourth year came one charming women from Ankara and she learned us songs. Everyone was forced to stand up and sing like in kindergarden. It was very funny especially if someone wasn't be able to sing normal.
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Polish Armenians don't speak Armenian. Long time ago Polish Armenians spoke in some kipchak dialect and they wrote in Armenian alphabet. I wonder why people who always talk about their Armenian roots or even wrote some books about Armenia and Armenians don't try to learn their nation lenguage. A lot of them speak fluently rusian and other languages. Why not Armenian?
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Barev Sulamita jan. Yes I wrote Tatul. I like him and olso I like Armenian liturgial music. But ofcourse I don't listen them in the same time. What about Tata.. He is a good singer but I can't listen him for a long time because I get bored
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Araksya jan, Sometime he didn't smile ofcourse because he is an Armenian guy and he has his humours but usually he loves smiling and jokes.But maybe after 20 years together he wan't be so lovely. Who will know.....
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If you want true I don't think about my body at all. When I'm hungry I eat how much I can. I don't thing that I will be fat or something like this. Maybe after 30 I will thing a little bit about it.I don't know. I think that usually a lot of Armenian women don't care about their body how much they should. I don't know why.
