Shahumyan

i dunno why people are disgusted, think of the potential...

Armenians in diaspora are only good in small quantities, you get too much and it becomes a s**t hole, with tosser people all over the place, see LA, London, Paris etc...

sincec when did the capitalists tell the people where money was going?? im a british taxpayer, no bastard told me where money was going...

i dont think anyone is bashing the American people per ce, rather the barbarious American Ruling class, which is responsible for the deaths of millions in the last century

if Azeri budget gets as much money as nigerian does from its oil, Armenians should be laughing. I think were unnderestimating the power of the capitalists here and how much they take from the oil. the government gets a tiny penny from it

Abuse in the family is one of the highest in the world in Armenia. ***ed up chauvenism...disgusting

As a sidenote, i dont think we should be too worried as the money generated from Azerbaijans oil will not be going to the Azerbaijani people and their national budget, but rather into the pockets of the Capitalists, therefore a tiny amount will actually go to a possible war effort against Armenia

i think Khazar has generally been bang on throughout this thread. I would like to add some points. Although i am an internationalist, i think the Chechens deserve the right for self determination, and as Armenians who in the case of Kharabagh have seen the effects of not having the power to affect yourselves, we should be first to stand in solidarity with the Chechen workers, and their demands for a independent secular state. 2ndly, the Armenian workers should make no alliance with no bourgeoise state, be it Russia, America, Georgia or Turkey, as none of these have any interest in the welfare of the Armenia people as an end. They simply wish to further their classes interest. examples are: Russia wants to maintain Armenia as "ally" so Nato and USA dont take over whole of caucauses. also its a market they want to penetrate with their goods, and already have succeeded in doing if you go to Yerevan and see their goods there. America wants Armenia onside so as it can be a satelite against a potential sleeping superpower, Russia. Back to the Chechens fighting for Azerbaijan, its obvious that normal chechen people will not forget about their cause just so that they can go help Azerbaijan, when Russia is dropping bombs on them. No logic. I personally think this Chechen human right person may simply be acting to stir things up so that Azerbaijan can increase funnds to the Chechen cause or for Chechen humanitarian causes. We should be wary of speeches like this, if they really meant anything, would they allow it to be published to every Tom Dick and Harry? i dont think so

Theres plenty of oil in Baku, if not the capitalists would not have invested money in order to get the oil out. The pipeline is an excellent example of how the ruling class puts its interests above those of anything else. It is claimeed that Capitalism is efficient, if so, why isnt it going through Armenia? I would like to see the reaction of the Armenians here who seem to worship America and all the "aid" its given to Armenia, and how it will stop when Armenia is no more use to the USA. As for the solution, the only solution is the combniation of the workers uprising of all the transcaucausian nations, to take power into their own hands and make decisions democratically, according to the needs of the region and for the benefit of the region, not for the benefit of the capitalists in Baku, Tiblissi, Ankara, London or Washington...

we can thank the capitalists for that hip hip, hurah!

im truly disgusted at the amount of male chauvenism on this board. who are men to decide whether women should smoke or not? And who are men to "set an example" since when were men the senior partner of a relationship to "set an example"? Armenian culture has been riddled with male chauvenism, and only during the Soviet period were women given a more equal right. However this gain has been lost to the counter revolutionary forces of capitalism. Women should be given every opportunity to be equal to men, such as baby care paid for by state in order to be able to go and work and be as independent as men. I think this thread highlights fundamental backwardness of our Armenian Culture.

hajis is arevmedahye for "friend" who is junior to you. isnt it?

no i dont have figures unfortuunately, however i think the scale of building and works in Armenia at the time is a little indication

the reason i made my comment is because ive seen people go to USA, think its great, then they cant get a 1 week break to go on holiday, and they have to work 10 hours a day....if u are happy to be a member of such a society, i feel sorry for u

u can call me stepan of couerse soviet armenian budget was bigger

money sent to armenia doesnt count as growth just to put things into perspeectives, an average University in UK has a great budget than Armenia, by double. would anyone like to compare these figures with Soviet Armenian?

unlucky... Amen mi mard mi tsav uni

although me and anon come to bitter disagreement on other forum, this is a good thread, with a good explaination and analysis. credit where its due tio anon

so what? nothing changed for people nothing changed for bombings

it was more of a light heartedd comment, Bolsheviks are supposedto have a culture of not giving up something they believe in, usually in the means of ideological. But here i meant if i was with a girl, then split up coz lets say she split with me, id have to keep trying to persuaded her what i believed, ie that we were best together

have a big fat greek wedding

ive read about it, and i was born in England, and my parents are anti-communists.... Could you explain where i exaggerate posts? i also have major exams in january, so my big stuff wont come out till february

wheres the bolshevik option of fighting for him/her and not giving up?

its not out of your reach, get a book and read it....not hard

Dan, this forum is much better than ArmenianClub, that place is full of proper ddums. Interesting points raised (especially lavash...mmm) However, i think its naive to suggest only suporters of communism are nostalgic immigrants or day dreamers, coz that means you just catergorized any supporter! lol Romania was not communist. How can we say this? Well, we look at how power was concentrated, and it is clear it was not in the hands of the workers, but rather the scum beurocrats... The production was not managed by able people, but by beurocrats... Lenin said that politicians should get as much as highest paid proffesional in USSR, Stalin pissed all over this rule as he built his Dachaus and truunks of Gold. the USSR degenerated, i would like to open a seperate threaad on why USSR degenerated, read Trotsky's "Revolution betrayed". The unsuccessfulness of communism is better than the successfulness of capitalism, and its worry capitalism has supporters still. As for why dont i go to Cuba...What use is that to the workers who toil in Britain, im not doing this for my own benefit, im doing it because i want to release the workers from the hands of the capitalists around the globe