Artsakh

Erdogan once more prooves that while you can take the Turk out of mongolia, you can't take mongolia out of the Turk. No matter where they are, in the EU, or hanging off the USA's balls, they will always remain the thick headed, moronic, genocidal barbarians that they have always been throughout their arrival to asia minor in the 11th century.

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Pamboukjian, Harout Gifted with an ultra-smooth vocal range, Harout Pamboukjian has taken the music of Armenia to the international stage. According to the L.A. Weekly, Pamboukjian's "husky tenor has a softness that coos and quivers when he does the syrupy love songs with sweeping keyboards that sound as if they're aching along with him." The son of a vocalist, Pamboukjian studied guitar, bouzouki, saz, dhol, and piano as a teen. As the leader of a band, Erebouni, he traveled throughout his homeland performing pop tunes at weddings and universities. The struggles of living under communist rule, however, resulted in Pamboukjian leaving Armenia in 1975. After residing in Lebanon for a year, he continued to the United States and settled in Los Angeles. It took little time for him to resume his career. Within two months, he had recorded his debut album, Our Eyir Asivats (Where Were You, God?). Pamboukjian has been embraced by Los Angeles' Armenian community, the largest Armenian diaspora in the world. After building an audience with his weekly performances at the Beverly Hills Tennis Club, he continued to hone his skills at Armenian engagement parties, baptism, weddings, and dinner dances. While the traditional music of Armenia continues to be the foundation for his repertoire, Pamboukjian has taken a modern approach to his music. Instead of the somber tones of the double reed duduk, he's framed his music in a swirl of clarinets, organ, and bass. In a mid-'90s interview, he explained, "The real sound is lost. If you're going to do something Armenian, do it right. Our music and poetry are so rich; there are songs written hundreds of years ago that are still untouched. Go and find them, take them, and make them your own." ~ Craig Harris, All Music Guide

Harout Pamboukjian From Armeniapedia.org "The Armenian Wedding Singer" Born in 1950 in Yerevan. His mother was a singer, and he took up the guitar ? he also plays the bouzouki and saz (stringed instruments), dhol (drums) and piano ? in his early teens, later forming a band called Erebouni. ?My mother had a beautiful voice,? he says, ?And I heard all those old folk songs in my house at an early age.? His band went from village to village playing, surprisingly, covers of everything from Charles Aznavour to Deep Purple and Elvis, at weddings and universities. Due to restrictions under the Soviet Union, Harout and most of his family left Soviet Armenia in 1975. After a year in Lebanon, he came to L.A. and took up residence in Hollywood. In the late ?70s and early ?80s, there were only a few thousand Armenians in L.A., most of whom were centered in East Hollywood. There were two local cable programs on the weekend that featured news and music, and nearly all the businesses ? Parseghian Records, Arka Photo, Panos Pastry, Carousel, King Arshag, etc. ? were on Hollywood or Santa Monica boulevards. Only two months after his arrival here, Harout put together a studio band and recorded his first album, Our Eyir Astvats (Where Were You, God? - in reference to the Armenian Genocide) at the Quad Teck studio on Western and Sixth in Koreatown. He got on the nightclub circuit, doing his first gigs on Sundays at a Beverly Hills tennis club owned by an Armenian. That first album, now considered a classic, barely resembles the trademark sound he?s become known for since then. Instead of the usual weepy duduk (a double-reed often called ?the saddest instrument in the world?) or synths, you get clarinet, organ and a lot of bass. Listen closer and you?ll hear some funky wah-wah guitar too, though only a few of the songs are dance-oriented, certainly different from the material that later made him so popular at weddings. Most bands and singers pay their dues in smoky nightclubs, bars and coffee shops. Harout honed his skills at Armenian engagement parties, baptisms, fairs and dinner dances, where one expects five to six hours of music (a DJ and a couple of singers) and an obscene amount of food. Fathers-of-the-bride in places as far away as France have typically shelled out a couple of thousand bucks for just an hour of Harout?s time. He?s played the Rose Bowl, the Shrine and the Palladium, too. But it?s at all those banquet halls, whatever the occasion, where fans get the best sense of what Harout?s music is about. An amalgamation of contemporary, folk and patriotic musics, at times it may sound like flashy pop, but with an inescapable earthiness that seems to emanate from the very soul of his people. Harout interprets songs by fellow artists including Rouben Hakhverdian, Robert Amirkhanian, Arthur Meschian and others who write for him. But it?s the centuries-old sacred and grandiose folk tunes about protecting the soil and fighting in the highlands ? "Antranik *****," "Sassouni Orore," "Msho Aghchig" ? that really get the blood stirring with nationalistic pride. Among Harout?s favorites is Nuné, who?s doing the modern thing and still keeping the tradition alive. But he's most fond of Rouben Hakhverdian, a "real troubadour" who has a wonderfully biting way of spouting Dylanesque ramblings like they?re the Gospel. His collaboration with Harout on the 1996 almost all-acoustic Yerke Nayev Aghotk Eh (Songs Are Also Prayers) is somber, intimate and filled with the kind of dirt-under-the-fingernails grit one must listen to, not dance to. Just two men with their guitars. Harout has no family left in Armenia. He lives comfortably in North Hollywood with his son, Isay, and his wife, Rose, who does all the backup vocals on his records. A year after the 1988 earthquake in Armenia that killed 25,000 people and left more than 500,000 homeless, hundreds of thousands of fans looking for some kind of temporary diversion from the devastation packed the Hrazdan stadium and Hamalir Demirchian Arena to hear 28 concerts by their favorite singer. Then?Minister of Culture Yuri Melik-Ohanjanian remarked these were the highest-attended performances in the history of Armenia. Today, there are over 20 Harout albums and counting. HAROUT PAMBOUKJIAN

who deleted my post and why? what is this censorship all about?

I don't think the Nazis would have killed Dro. On the contrary, he was awarded medals by the German army. This guy was such a warrior that the Germans themselves nicknamed him the "Hyra hunter". It would nice if you didn't speak of Armenia and say "Let turks swallow Armenia". Would you wish the same for your family and yourself?. The nazis are the nation killers???? What exactly are the turks?they taught the Nazis everything they needed to know. And i am guessing that you are not referring to the Jews, because surely we all know that they are not a nation. So which nation are they killers of?

Armenians are a powerful bunch. They kicked not only the dunmeh Jews a s s, but also masonry's a s s. We had the Turks beat after going through genocide, only when doubleteamed by the Bolshevick commies and the Kemalist Turks were we subdued, but not destroyed. As if we hadn't had enough, Then we went on to kick the Soviets a s s during the rebellion of Febuary and send them running out of our country. Ah, the examples are many. Geez, we truly do rule.

o well, someone got to it before i did

I came across this ultra-kool Armenian encyclopedia which I wanted to share with all you folks. have fun! armenian

The US is a materialistic country good only in terms of business and ripping others off. Thats what its all about. The gov't doesn't take care of the people, provide any healthcare or anything else. Canada is a great country!! yey canada!!!!! screw the US.

We have respect for ALL victims of all genocide. Yes, the Armenian genocide was the first genocide of the 20th century. Yes, had the Armenian genocide been recongized and condemned by the world community, the jewish holocaust and other genocides would never have taken place. In terms of unquieness, while the Jewish victims were comfortable transported to their "gas chambers"(no proof that gas chambers existed at the time), Armenians were driven precisely like sheep under the melting sun in the destert without food or water, starved along the way, raped along the way. In any case, YOU seem to be too busy defending the Jews that you are not even comprehending what is being said. We (Armenians) condemn all crimes against humanity, even Jews. However, that does not change the fact that certain money and oil hungry zionistic jewish groups are pursuing Anti-Armenian policies. It does not change the fact that on several occasions when the Armenian genocide bill could have passed in the US, that it was these very same Jewish groups who were responsible for a vote not being taken and the bill being sacked? It is a fact that the state of Israel is an ally of Turkey and works against Armenian interests. what do the jewish holocaust victims have to do with this fact? Do you mind telling me?? my friend edward is not going against his nation by calling them sheep, please don't turn things around and TRY to make a mockery out of this patriotic armenian. He was simply critisizing the lack of national ideology and self respect among many Armenians. The Balkans too were a slave of the Ottoman Empire. Did they accept the injustice as it was? NOOO. They took a stand and fought for justice, albeit at catastrophic losses. They were not passive when it came to national issues. What happened with the Armenians? They obediately walked to their death beds. Why? lack of national ideology, lack of self respect. Only fools turn the other cheek. And only traitors support that ideology of "turning the other cheek".

Very well said, except that its not "including music", but especially music. Music is a powerful weapon in preserving language and ispiring patriotism. We must support all our Artists by buying their cd's. Afterall, these people make their money, their living by singing. If you don't go to their concert, or buy their cd, they will go out of business and will no longer sing. Who does this hurt? It hurts Armenian culture and language. In order to preserve Armenian language and culture, you must support our artists. Buy their cd's. Once a month buy a stinking 15 dollar cd and pleasure your ears. Is that too much to ask for?

I would just like to congratulate all the Armenians on this May 9, the 13th anniversary of the liberation of Shushi. The month of May is generally the month of victories for the Armenian people. The liberation of Shushi is the most recent example of our victory. It is truly one of the most glorious pages in the history of the Armenian people. Peace to all!

The only place Kurds have ever been welcome is Armenia. Unfortunately, you kurds are a stupid people. During the first world war, you got tricked by the Turks and slaughtered Armenians in the hope that they would grant you a state. Don't you idiots know that no body grants anyone a state? that statehood is gained at the price of blood? Look at you pathetic Kurds today. You are getting raped by the same Turkish state who your forefathers so proundly served during the Armenian Genocide. Fools!!!!!!! You reap what you sow.

arandz kez chi payliiiiiiiiiiii, astguh im genatzzzzz, arandz kez chi hi payylliiiii, artsghhhhh immmmmmm, gn-natsss ---paul baghdadlian, "bari gisheres dzezi, kam bari looys asem. azg siretsek, hayootyoon siretsek, karmir, kapooyt, narenja gooyn sirekkkkk"

Sasun, can u provide a link to your website?

Shushi is a historical armenian city, as historic and as important as Ani or van. It is located within the boundries of the Nagorno Artsax Republic. The liberation of Shushi is one of the most glorious pages in Armenian history. It is a great town, just beautiful you should really visit. Also, shushi was the former capital of Artsax. As General Garegin Njdeh (Der-Harutuyan) has said, "he who reigns over Shushi, reigns over the whole of the Southern Caucasus."

just curious, has there been any attacks on this website? these attacks once more go to show how barbaric and uncivliized the Turks are even over cyberia.

Yes, he was a member of the Dashnak political party. He was born in Kantzag. He took part in the expedition of gougounian and was exiled to Sakhalin. He escaped and went to Iran, where he joined the ARF party and became a field worker. He killed a lot of traitors who were responsible for a massacre of fellow friends in the village of Mahlam; the informer Zakeh was killed by him. He became glorious during the iranian revolution, when he occupied Rasht and enzeli, Kharzan and ghazvin with a small group of men. He then entered Tehran victorious, where he was appointed the chief of police. Though an Armenian nationalist himself, he is considered the big hero of the Iranian liberation movement. He was killed in hamadan during a battle against the counter-revoltionary forces on April 25 in 1912.

So the Azeri's finally show some sence of logic! I am intrigued

CONCESSIONS EQUAL TO TREASON Today several women organized a press conference on behalf of the widows, mothers and sisters of the fighters who died in the Artsax war. They are displeased and concerned with recently voiced declarations concerning «return» of liberated territories. Gohar Karapetyan was angry with the recent statement of Defense Minister Serzh Sarkisyan about «possible concessions for certain guarantees». «What guarentess do they want to get from the Turks, and what will be given in return?» ask the women. They declare that they speak on behalf of those 400 000 refugees, «real owners» of the territories. «It's at least treason not to take into account the sufferings, the heroic fight of Artsax population, and the blood they shed», say the women. They reminded Robert Kocharyan of his pre-election programmes saying Armenians are owners of these territories. Women do not understand «how can Serzh Sarkisyan and Robert Kocharyan who had had certain participation in the fight, make such declarations». The widows of the fighters noted that if, God forbid, the war is resumed, they will be on the front line. http://www.a1plus.am/eng/?go=issue&id=27125

Good analysis Aaron, very interesting!

Agreed absolutely 100% At the same time, an opposition to the leadership which acts as a watch-dog is also essential to the keep the rulers on check.

The stage-by-stage solution to the conflict is simply suicidial for Armenia. If the Azeris are unwilling to recognize Artsakh's independence in exchange for the return of surrouding districts while we are in actual possession of those surrounding districts, then exactly what "guarantees" that the current leadership speaks of could possibly change the Azeris stance on this issue after the surrounding districts have been returned?