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So in all and what Domino expressed, what do you think people, my XI commandment? If everybody would adopt and practice that wouldn’t we have a much better world? What if people of this world would take the preaching’s of all holly scriptures combine it with Darwinism/evolution, and come up with a new movement/religion if you will, we are all part of this wonderful thing we call life, creation and evolution, I ask you all. Would we be better off with fait in all, rather then agonizing proof?

Does any of our fimale members in this forum has something nice to say about us? Armenian man? or brunchik you are a one hell of a looser when it comes to an Armenian man, maybe I should bring my wife over here so she can say a few positive words about us, as I recall in almost all of your post you dont have a single line reflecting positivnes of Armenian man, yet we have a whooll tread devothed to Armenian woman, give me a break will you please? each and every time i read similar posts by you its the same old same old, for gods sake say something nice or simply dont say anything. <_<

Boghos you will also find Isabela Bayragdarian's singing equaly enjoyable, the cd called "Joyous Light" check out the web site also. http://www.bayrakdarian.com/

"According to the Bible 1/3 of the worlds population will die at the end time, whos side are you on?" Gevo what sense does your signature make, if it’s the END what happens to the other 2/3? <_< I don’t recall any lines in a Bible that states such a stupid claim

And some day maybe they’ll actually implement it. Happy easter everyone.

Ok Sasun, this is just for the sake of a argument I agree with you, and I know where you stand in this issue, my argument here is,………… since people “found” that soul thru so many variations of fait, what good or benefit man kind has seen over the time? Well, all evidence to a contrary. Just turn on the news. And in what you describe about animals I see no distinction between many (religious fanatics) and the cliché “animals”

Hence we are nothing more but advanced/evolved intelligent animals

And there lies the whole conflict of our existence as humans; I for one obey my natural instincts I inherited from this nature. There is a harmony within me between my conciseness and sub- conciseness. How do you know animals don’t have souls? How do you figure this out if I may ask? I suspect they even have gods, and we are there gods, when my kid was just a baby who do you think he worshiped (and still does) me. So many answered questions and so many explanations, yet there is only one very simple explanation.

We differ from animals only by our intelligence and nothing more.............. from biological stand point of view, at list, we belong to an animal kingdom, and what is so odd about this Sasun?

Come now bruinchik, thats not a nice way to talk about Hagarag

Wouldn’t it be nice and so harmonies IF everyone in this world fallow my XI amendment?

Coherent and necessary essential structure! Yes wonderful and certenly welcomed I ask you all how do you see achieving this, as I see in this tread, so far it has been one of the most productive and welcomed treads for a long time (thanks pirate) and for all those who had an input, everyone had a valid points, thru this and similar discussions we can have a productive results, I must however say first and foremost, we can yell and scream and say all we want, without the necessary and adequate “thing” we’ll always be “orphans”. And let’s not dismiss one and very important fact, history, which was the most influential factor, continues to be the most dominant “guiding light” in shaping of Armenian psyche. It’s nothing short of a disease and it’s so real. Now the question rises is to, how do we deal with this? By starting and working thoards the direction where we all can say, at times when it was so crucial, my ancestors arose for the occasion and made a difference. Pardon for my incoherent observation

The only thing is thru is that at "customs" they usually will give you a little hard time, and it’s the case only for locals and Armenians from abroad, no custom forms exist so far. The rest of what you heard is plain rubbish.

Steve, what reports? I was there as early as in 2002, I'm not sure what reports you are referring, everything was smooth and relaxed and no problem what so ever, visa, passport checking is still done by Russian guards, but that’s about it a little inconvenience, not unusual for any country

That uneducated, narrow minded public (majority) has a lack of Artists who should be busy devoting first of all by keeping the torch alive, pass or within its creativity reflect Armenian culture, in the absence of such, its anything but what we see and hear or say, the intelligence is not immune from temptations this country has to offer, that is the capitalism in its worst, and who are drown into greed and give up there “responsibilities”, why should we blame the public for this? Or they are simply born that way? I don’t think so. Artists among being part of the intelligence of any culture should be excluded from such a temptations. I hope you and yours alike will think hard, if your fillings are genuine. (That is if you agree with what I have expressed)

or perhaps in one dies unfortunate dead such as an acidant if some or most organs are in good condition it'be better to fill up one of those organ doner cards. I did

Bush Administration Disowns Three Year-Old Agreement to Maintain Armenia, Azerbaijan Military Aid Parity ASSISTANT SECRETARY ELIZABETH JONES DEFENDS 4 TO 1 MILITARY AID IMBALANCE IN FAVOR OF AZERBAIJAN; CLAIMS PARITY AGREEMENT NEVER EXISTED WASHINGTON, DC--The Bush Administration, which, earlier this year proposed breaking its three-year old commitment to maintain parity in US military aid levels to Armenia and Azerbaijan, this week entirely disowned its agreement with Congress and the Armenian American community, claiming that such an arrangement has never existed, reported the Armenian National Committee Of America (ANCA). The State Department outlined its new posture in response to questions directed to Secretary of State Colin Powell by Senator George Allen (R-VA) during a March 2 hearing of the Foreign Relations Committee. Senator Allen's question read, in part: "As part of the 907 waiver, there was an agreement made between the Administration and Congress to continue ensuring military parity between Armenia and Azerbaijan. How does this budget request not undermine that understanding and not contradict the Administrations previously held position?" Responding for Secretary Powell, Assistant Secretary of State Elizabeth Jones wrote: "We do not have a policy that FMF funding levels for Armenia and Azerbaijan should be identical, but we are determined to ensure that our military assistance to these two countries does not alter the military balance between them. We are confident that increased FMF funding for Azerbaijan will not alter the military capability or offensive posture of Azerbaijan, nor will it perturb the military balance between it and Armenia in the Nagorno-Artsax conflict." Assistant Secretary Jones' comments run contrary to the agreement to maintain equal military aid levels struck in late 2001 between the White House and Congress during negotiations over granting the President the authority to waive Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act. The agreement was shared with representatives of the Armenian American community during a February 21, 2002 meeting at the White House with National Security Council official Dan Fried and Presidential advisor Karl Rove. In February of this year, as part of its FY 2005 budget, the Bush Administration proposed breaking the parity agreement by sending four times more Foreign Military Financing assistance to Azerbaijan ($8 million) than to Armenia ($2 million). The President's budget also includes a proposed $62 million allocation in economic aid to Armenia, a $13 million decrease from the $75 million approved by Congress as part of the FY 2004 aid bill. "Our deep disappointment with the Administration's failure to honor its three-year old commitment to maintain military aid parity between Armenia and Azerbaijan was compounded this week by the news that a senior State Department official is now claiming that such an agreement never existed in the first place," said ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian. "This breach of faith--this disavowal of their own agreement--undermines the confidence of Armenian Americans in the willingness of the Bush Administration to maintain a balanced policy toward Armenia and the surrounding region." In letters and briefing papers provided to Members of Congress, the ANCA has explained that breaking the parity agreement will tilt the regional military balance in favor of Azerbaijan, reward the Azerbaijani government's increasing violent calls for renewed aggression, and undermine the role of the United States as an impartial mediator of the Karabagh talks.

which Manougians are you talking about AH, Alex/Marrie AGBU? or there is also Alen Manougian in France who are very well known,

Rubo jan, I know what you are saying, but with just "we have the possession" of Artsax is not enough to win and support re-assurance of public opinion, in those days ordinary blue-color worker wants a leadership and strong economical base/atmosphere to really on his families survival, ideology, land re- possession, war, longer this uncertainty goes worst it will get for our kinsman, I hope you realize what I'm trying to say and amplify here, the bottom line is what are we prepared as an concession? in political arenas we can not go brag about our victories, unless we have the back bone to support it, thus back bone be is, strong economy, social adequate/basic/satisfactory structure healthy and peaceful neighborly relations and what we discussed in the other thread regarding Diasporas involvement. I think what we have achieved as a Nation in our victory in Artsax, current government and its leadership is still playing that card as "window dressing" for its survival, only time will tell what will bring, and how we are being played. I just will point out what Xrimyan Hayriq had said, mer sherep@ txtits er. Let’s hope and make sure, next time “Xrimyan Hayrig” goes, his sherep will be an Iron one.

ինչ րոմանտիկա ես տեսնում ամուսնության մեջ դու? Ինչ լավեր ան դին վոր ազատ էի Ազատութունս պոխի դարնացած ցավի <_<

Atta boys now its more like it

been there done that. not yet Sasun jan aldough have a nice argentinian melbec wine for tonight, I'll remember you in my prayers

yes indeed Sasun jan, eveyone has got to belive in somthing so I belive I'll have a drink

First welcome, and congradulations I hope both of you will find/keep everlasting happines and love

after over the years I have seen, heard, witnesed to such an arguments (endless, pointless, sensless) I like to propose one more commandment. XI) Thou shell those keep the religion to thyself!!!