Nikephoros_Phokas

It is often hard to pick out a present for other people, and often due to social expectations, it is seen as being stingy to not give a gift. One possible solution is to give a Kiva microloan card out as a Christmas gift. What Kiva does is allow them to select someone from the developed world to give a microloan to. There is however a small chance you could lose your principle, but they have 98.98% repayment rate, so it is unlikely, and especially so if you look at the history of the local micro-lending partner and check out their repayment rate. Whatever you get someone in the developed world, they will not be very happy by it, but in the non-developed world even a $25 microloan makes a big difference in helping them obtain a livelihood. This way you can give your friends or family the money represented by the gift card eventually as the loan is eventually repaid and help someone else out in more dire need also. There are many Armenians you can choose to loan to. Mods/Admins: Maybe you can make this sticky or figure out other ways to make this far more visible on this forum?

What do you expect when you allow unfettered immigration from Turkey to countries like Canada? They think they are back in their homeland...

Here is an Islamic fundamentalist blog post: Compare this to Ataturk's eternal mission: Fundamental Islam: If someone does something un-Islamic it is up to the ummah to prevent them Turkish nationalism: Even your government may be traitors, it is up to you prevent them and save the Turkish independence Very similar. Turkish nationalism is the worst meld of Islam and the most fascist aspects of European nationalism. What is happening in Turkey is they have replaced Islam with belief in the Kemalist official ideology and Turkish nationalism. When an author like Akcam is challenging the official history he is being responded to like muslim faithful would to someone challenging Islamic dogma or fatwas: "it is the duty of other Muslims to prevent it from happening". This is why they attack intellectuals in Turkey.

Turkish Jews were compelled to speak only Turkish, not Ladino their mother tongue even as late as the 1960s. The large Israeli, German language daily, Tages Nachrichten(Tel Aviv) reported on the poor condition of Turkish Jews on April 5, 1964. Source: Ypourgeion Exoterikon(Greek Foreign Ministry), Athens to Washington and London, Dispatch No. DSK412-77, April 11, 1964. cited in: Vryonis, Speros. The Mechanism of Catastrophe: The Turkish Pogrom Of September 6-7, 1955, And The Destruction Of The Greek Community Of Istanbul. Greekworks.com (New York, 2005) pp. 563. You think a cabal of secret Jews carried out the Armenian genocide? Did the crypto Jews also decide to pass "speak Turkish, citizens" laws and then apply these laws even to their own people? I mean how stupid are some people?

Raphael Isreali, who used to be a dhimmi living in Morocco has talked about restrictions to unfettered muslim immigrantion which is something I agree with. Instead of adapting to Western values, Turks in Canada are brining their national rejection of these values to Canada with them. The problem is that the Turkish government is very sucessful to hide things from the common knowledge, like: http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=17...20&start=20 Turkey has been so successful to infiltrate academia, to get its theses repeated in the Western press, most do not know this. They do not know that most Turks rejected and still reject Western values, but pretend to respect them for sake of argument. A challenge has to be presented to the Turkish endowed facilities of history and this challenge must be repeated to the press, so it can start to enter the common knowledge.

Above gives an example of why the USA does not recognize the Armenian genocide and it has nothing to do with a Jewish cabal conspiracy that is running the world. Secretaries of State, like Kissinger lament that the American population do not think in terms of heuristic calculus of geopolitics and "world balance of power". He is sadly very wrong because they are many stupid/base Americans thinking "in terms of world balance of power".

It is a waste of time to bother with people like him. The real issue is this: The Turkish state is having positions on history and it imposing them on the Turkish populace and historians. It also imposes them abroad successfully in chairs of Ottoman and Turkish history. Someone needs to take Ottoman history Chairs at Universities in the USA for example away from the Turkish state. Some rich Armenian American, Greek American or organizations needs to get more people descended from Ottoman Christians who know modern Turkish and Ottoman Turkish into the field as Professors to challenge the Turkish hegemony.

I use Finereader 8,0 but a version that is not international, it can only OCR English. I need to get the International Version so hopefully I can OCR some Greek texts.

What OCR software do you use? Also since Ashotna voluntereed do not OCR it in anyone else, but you free to download it. I have plenty more books I scan from like especially The Dhimmi: Jews & Christians Under Islam because for example many Turks always repeat: "How come if we are so intolerant we did not kill all the Christians or Armenians earlier." And that book by Bat Ye'or best answers such a stupid claim using instead of conjectures the muslim tradition of jurisprudence.

I would rather plain text, infact I just uninstall MS Office. The article is good, but I am shocked that someone replied positively so fast. Your software should allow to output into Clipboard. I know Abby Finereader 8.0 Professional does. But my version does not support other languages really and will strip out accent marks and diacritics of which this article has many. The Greeks participating on forums that I posted similar requests to, except I scanned in from The Mechanism of Catastrophe: The Turkish Pogrom Of September 6-7, 1955, And The Destruction Of The Greek Community Of Istanbul. and none of them replied. The stupid chirping cicadas.

I have been thinking about making a site to counter the Turkish official history by bringing out some of the scholars that are not in bed with the Ankara regime. I do not want a popular site but rather a site where people do something besides useless banter, like post excerpts from historical works or scan them in. Something like a website to brige the gap between the general public and historical works that can be considered dangerous to the lies of Turkish official history. Below is : Astourian, Stephan H. 1999. "Modern Turkish Identity and the Armenian Genocide:From Prejudice to Racist Nationalism" From the book Remembrance and Denial: The Case of the Armenian Genocide http://www.datafilehost.com/download.php?file=92bb6176 File: 23-49AstourianTurkishIdentity.zip Size: 2.77 MB I scanned it into GIF images. I want to see if some Armenian will meet me halfway by OCRing it in. I would do it myself but A.) it takes additional time compared to the long time I took to scan it in, B.) like I said I want to find people who will do more than engage in useless chatter, like take time to OCR something in. If someone does OCR it in, do not bother if your software cannot handle foreign characters(like mine) because there are lots of Turkish words. Also do not discard the page numbers, so the resulting text is easy to cite. If you do OCR it in or are willing to help me by OCRing such works then PM me. I am getting on inter-library loan: Vryonis The Turkish State and History: Clio Meets the Grey Wolf Heyd Foundations of Turkish Nationalism: The Life and Teachings of Ziya Gokalp I am just one man, I cannot scan and OCR so much.

I do not see why you classify or say Zurcher, is on the "Turks side". He is an Ottoman/Turkish historian but I do not think he is like that, if he was like that he would never praise Akcam or recognize the Armenian genocide. Turkey is a state that has positions especially on important "national issues", that it imposes on its subjects. I was looking at a library at Kinross's biography on Ataturk and read the Intro where he thanked prominent Turkish politicans for access to certain archives, and he contacted many Nationalist Movement leaders which he thanked in the very Intro. I was thinking to loan it out to scan that in, but I did not. Zurcher in Turkey : a modern history(1994 edition) on the otherhand thanked mostly non-Turks for this work. Alot of historians are very willing to assist the Turkish state in being voices to repeat "resmi tarih" abroad, I doubt Zurcher is one of those voices.

The fanatic Sunni Muslim nation known as Turks have done it again. At least the following print newspapers in their online edition or news portals have full articles urging Turks to intervene in this online web poll: http://www.turkiyegazetesi.com.tr/haberdet...?haberid=350336 http://www.hurriyetusa.com/haber/haber_detay.asp?id=13284 http://www.turkei.net/news_detail.php?id=27914 http://www.dunyabulteni.net/news_detail.php?id=25603 http://www.karapapak.net/turkce/haberler.aspx?id=458 http://www9.gazetevatan.com/haberdetay.asp...p;Categoryid=30 http://www.gelecekonline.com/haber/haber/1...imi-anketi.html http://www.8sutun.com/node/42648 http://haber10.com/haber/96238/ http://www.sonhaber.com/tr/haber_detay.asp?haber_id=14287 Probably the best search terms for Google are: ermenihttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21253084/ (It works, for some reason I had to remove the space.) Instructions for Google to search only .tr domain for sites that contain the link to that poll: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&...-8&oe=utf-8 Less successful keywords: MSNBC.com Ermeni soykırımıyla MSNBC’nin soykırım MSNBC Anketi Ermeni WOW, just wow. Such a fanatic and vigilant nationalism. They are so low to even make web polls into major news that newspapers should carry, just so they can manipulate public opinion abroad like they do with the fascist Kemalism at home(with article 301). If you sift through those results you will see the massive campaign the Turkish internet world is making over insulting their overblown Sunni muslim sense of honor. Honor is about your good and noble deeds, stupid Sunni muslims, not from being fanatic and uncouth.

Wait till the Turkish newspapers hear about this. The Turkish newspapers are so ultranationalistic and fascist they will write articles mentioning these polls and and urging to vote on the website to skew the results so that the fascist official ideology of the Turkish Republic can be reflected in the poll results. All major Turkish newspapers made a massive effort to skew the results of the TIME Man of the Century poll. They made Ataturk beat Bob Dylan for entertainer of the Century. See: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/despatches/europe/18385.stm When Ocalan was arrested Time Magazine covered it and had a poll which Turkish newspapers skewed and Turkish university student wrote a script that forced the voting to close. See: http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/ocalan/ (For the poll, from memory I remember that I could not vote because the poll was closed because of the script) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17497711/ .. "The video prompting the ban allegedly said Ataturk and the Turkish people were homosexuals, news reports said. The CNN-Turk Web site featured a link allowing Turks to complain directly to YouTube about the "insult."" ...

I do not know much about the Arab acceptance of Armenian refugees. That is really going on a tangent from my post. Arab muslims today direct their nationalism and Islam more against Israel and Jews. If an American tourist who visited Turkey saw this conversation he would think we are all fanatics(not the Turks) because they were so nice and kind to him, blah blah. But the idiot tourist would not realize or care Turks direct their nationalism and Islam against Armenians, Greeks, Kurds and show a fake kindness to tourists. The great ambassador Morgenthau finally left Turkey because after the genocide the Turks were all so kind to him and it was so sickening and disgusting to him this kind of behavior.