Armen Posted September 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2004 THE SITUATION OF KOÇARYAN GOVERNMENT GETS HARD http://www.diplomaticobserver.com/news_read.asp?id=1055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted September 14, 2004 Report Share Posted September 14, 2004 THE SITUATION OF KOÇARYAN GOVERNMENT GETS HARD http://www.diplomaticobserver.com/news_read.asp?id=1055 style_images/master/snapback.png What did they expect? Who was it that said; "Our ships cannot climb up Mt. Ararat"? Was it Churcill or one of his predecessors? We know it was not that idiot Noah!! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2004 (edited) ARMENIA AND CORRUPTION http://www.diplomaticobserver.com/news_read.asp?id=1068 THE ARMENIANS in the Late Ottoman Period by Turkish Parliament http://www.tbmm.gov.tr/yayinlar/yayin1/armenian.htm Edited October 6, 2004 by Armen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 ARMENIANS IN GEORGIA CONTINUE TO MAKE TROUBLE http://www.diplomaticobserver.com/news_read.asp?id=1072 Note how they mention Javakhq as Cevahati, not even Javakheti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 This Diplofartic Observer is written by poorly paid, semi-literate functionaries of the Military Republic of Turkey. It has at the most entertainment value. They should try harder, they just repeatedly look like fools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Boghos, I think every propaganda tool has its target and designation. I don't think it's right to think they're stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Boghos, I think every propaganda tool has its target and designation. I don't think it's right to think they're stupid. style_images/master/snapback.png Yah, a buncha farts that make references to the "crimes" of arguing for the Turkish army to leave Cyprus and of accepting the Armenian Genocide in their Penal Code are unstupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 If propaganda is not properly done it risks backfiring. I am not saying that "Turks are stupid", that would be preposterous, but that under any reasonable standards the DO is so poor that it will never be taken seriously by what is defined as "opinion makers". Hence it is a waste of time. If you are saying that there is a public for eveything. Impossible to disagree. But I don´t think that the typical redneck reader of the National Inquirer has much of an influence in foreign affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 If you are saying that there is a public for eveything. Impossible to disagree. But I don´t think that the typical redneck reader of the National Inquirer has much of an influence in foreign affairs. style_images/master/snapback.png True, but every propaganda tool increases its volume and it starts slicing some part of population. Surely, the other publications are more sophisticated than the Diplomatic Observer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 15, 2004 Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 Propaganda cuts two ways. When it is poorly done, it is in our favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2004 OK, let's support their publication then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nakharar Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 The editors of the journal must be those diplomats that the JCAG/ASALA forgot to bump off. We wouldn't have been able to laugh our butts off if they did. This only shows the unprofessionalism of those incompetent fools at the Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Nakharar, have Armenians EVER won any diplomatic battle over the Turks? Can you remind me one? They are not professional? HA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Maybe Turkish think tanks should be called propaganda tanks instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Diplomatic observer I think the site should have been called "Diplomatik Obzörvır". I don't know, somehow that looks more in line with the quality of their materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 (edited) I think the site should have been called "Diplomatik Obzörv?r". I don't know, somehow that looks more in line with the quality of their materials. style_images/master/snapback.png Subtle, dear TB, subtle. Edited October 16, 2004 by Boghos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Dear Boghos and TB, why don't you guys post some high quality material for a change. You sound like my grandpa who sits in front of TV and make intelligent remarks about stupid Turks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Bark Posted October 16, 2004 Report Share Posted October 16, 2004 Dear Boghos and TB, why don't you guys post some high quality material for a change. You sound like my grandpa who sits in front of TV and make intelligent remarks about stupid Turks. style_images/master/snapback.png Calm down Armen. It was just a joke, and not meant to belittle your effort. And I would never imply "stupid Turks". I am disturbed when Armenians underestimate the Turks and the Turkish ruling elite. Doing so is indeed itself rather stupid. I also don't mind that things like this "Diplomatik Obzörvır" are not what gives the Turks their diplomatic and machiavellian advantage. But you are also correct in thinking that there are clueless bags of biomaterial out there that could be influenced by it, and who knows, they may in turn influence others, who couldn't be bothered to learn more. But then, I am just an overly busy prole. Don't let me or anyone else to discourage you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Subtle, dear TB, subtle. style_images/master/snapback.png http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=9920 Dear Boghos, can you, please, explain how much subtlety you applied to comment on Gul's statement above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armen Posted October 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 Calm down Armen. It was just a joke, and not meant to belittle your effort. And I would never imply "stupid Turks". I am disturbed when Armenians underestimate the Turks and the Turkish ruling elite. Doing so is indeed itself rather stupid. I also don't mind that things like this "Diplomatik Obzörvır" are not what gives the Turks their diplomatic and machiavellian advantage. But you are also correct in thinking that there are clueless bags of biomaterial out there that could be influenced by it, and who knows, they may in turn influence others, who couldn't be bothered to learn more. But then, I am just an overly busy prole. Don't let me or anyone else to discourage you. style_images/master/snapback.png TB, I am also posting it to present their line of thinking. I think DO presents it in the most crude form. Surely, it is not intended for a sophisticated reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghos Posted October 17, 2004 Report Share Posted October 17, 2004 http://hyeforum.com/index.php?showtopic=9920 Dear Boghos, can you, please, explain how much subtlety you applied to comment on Gul's statement above... style_images/master/snapback.png Armen jan, The subtlety I referred to was the irony that TB made by calling Diplofartic Observer, Diplomatic Obzorvir (i don´t know where the umlaut went). Please do not at all see my comments as dismissing yor concerns. I just think that in the realm of things these Turkish efforts are more detrimental to their agenda than anything else. Now, of course they spend millions lobbying in Washington, use their European network well, and so on. Underestimating Turks is the biggest mistake we can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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