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Turkey Gets Ready To Hinder Armenian Genocide's 90-Th Anniversary

 

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29 Sept 04

 

"Turkey is getting ready to hinder Armenian Genocide's 90-th

anniversary", Abdullah Gul, foreign affairs minister of Turkey,

declared in New York. Gul met with representatives of the Turkish

community of America in New York's Turkish House and shared the plans

against "US Armenians' undertakings concerning the so-called Armenian

Genocide's 90-th anniversary", Anatolu news agency informs.

 

"The Foreign Ministry has set up a committee for that purpose. The

committee will call meetings and do scientific research on the

matter. The members of the committee will visit you in the US from

time to time", Abdullah Gul said. Meanwhile the minister called on

the Turks of USA to apply for American citizenship.

 

By Hakob Chakrian

 

http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg94244.html

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What is this ? Some kind of bad joke(s) ? These clowns should do something useful...what kind of retarded logic does a foreign minister have ?

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I guess their country is not in such a bad shape... of course they don't have to bother about their high inflation, their debts, their internal affairs, or they don't need to make more job... No... ! They will rather waste more millions to "research" scientifically, millions in lobbying and propagandizing, buying accademics etc... when for them it is a lost cause... since Armenians havn't shut up and obviously after 90 years they won't. I do not call this a desperate final attempt to erase history anymore, but rather pure insanity.

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What is this ? Some kind of bad joke(s) ? These clowns should do something useful...what kind of retarded logic does a foreign minister have ?

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It is not a bad joke, Boghos. It is a carefully calculated diplomatic statement.

If the Armenian Genocide is an ordinary event that can be hindered by "getting prepered to it" that mean that AG is nothing but a propaganda from Armenian side and can be confronted by similar kind of propaganda. By this statement Gul tries to depreciate the whole value of the AG as an event of any significance.

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It is not a bad joke, Boghos. It is a carefully calculated diplomatic statement.

If the Armenian Genocide is an ordinary event that can be hindered by "getting prepered to it" that mean that AG is nothing but a propaganda from Armenian side and can be confronted by similar kind of propaganda. By this statement Gul tries to depreciate the whole value of the AG as an event of any significance.

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They know that they won't have any peace ever never... they can prepare years, decades, centuries, etc... 1915 will be in their history, they can accept it or this history will be forced upon them... both scenarios lead to the same conclusion.

 

After 90 years of persistant denial, those moves are not anymore a desperate move from the Turks but compleat insanity... they do not maintain intact reality testing. It is an accute cases of insanity.

 

Medication is needed... and medication is for them to be smashed by cold real facts... their arguments being destroyed in international platforms.

 

I'm one pill of anti-psychotic for them, so as any diasporan Armenian, let fill the pill bottle and medicate them by informing the world. :lol:

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They know that they won't have any peace ever never... they can prepare years, decades, centuries, etc... 1915 will be in their history, they can accept it or this history will be forced upon them... both scenarios lead to the same conclusion.

 

After 90 years of persistant denial, those moves are not anymore a desperate move from the Turks but compleat insanity... they do not maintain intact reality testing. It is an accute cases of insanity.

 

Medication is needed... and medication is for them to be smashed by cold real facts... their arguments being destroyed in international platforms.

 

I'm one pill of anti-psychotic for them, so as any diasporan Armenian, let fill the pill bottle and medicate them by informing the world.  :lol:

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Turkey's last hope of Genocide denial will dye the day Armenia becomes a normal state with normal government. They still have hope to achieve the denial because we haven't succeded to bulit and normal country yet.

And we can also say it otherwise. Until Turkey is denying the Genocide, it is us who give them the freedom to do that by having a lousy state.

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Turkey's last hope of Genocide denial will dye the day Armenia becomes a normal state with normal government. They still have hope to achieve the denial because we haven't succeded to bulit and normal country yet.

And we can also say it otherwise. Until Turkey is denying the Genocide, it is us who give them the freedom to do that by having a lousy state.

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I don't think that the genocide exposure will be much affected if Armenia one day become a better country. The only thing in may change is that Armenia may be more respected so it could influence countries political decisions.

 

The genocide is more about the diaspora.

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I don't think that the genocide exposure will be much affected if Armenia one day become a better country. The only thing in may change is that Armenia may be more respected so it could influence countries political decisions.

 

The genocide is more about the diaspora.

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I think it will because if Armenia becomes efficient Turks will lose their hope, which is there still. The Armenian state is the most powerful legal claimant of the issue because it can raise the issue in international organisations. Moreover, Armenia has declared in its constitution that it is a perusant of this issue, which means that this issue is one of the cornerstones of our statehood. This also means that no citizen of Armenia has the power to stop the persuance of AG if the constitution is not revised.

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It is not a bad joke, Boghos. It is a carefully calculated diplomatic statement.

If the Armenian Genocide is an ordinary event that can be hindered by "getting prepered to it" that mean that AG is nothing but a propaganda from Armenian side and can be confronted by similar kind of propaganda. By this statement Gul tries to depreciate the whole value of the AG as an event of any significance.

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I don´t disagree with you, at least not in what relates to Mr. Gul´s intended objectives. But this is once again a statement that is made purely for domestic consumption. Only Turks and Azeris believe this. They just make fools of themselves. That´s why it is a bad joke. Moreover, the foreign minister of a "great nation" asking Turks to become US citizens, come on what kind of idiotic strategy is that ? This is typical of the mentality of people that have been living for far too long in another dimension, removed from reality.

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Moreover, the foreign minister of a "great nation" asking Turks to become US citizens, come on what kind of idiotic strategy is that ? This is typical of the mentality of people that have been living for far too long in another dimension, removed from reality.

 

Well, he probably isn't asking them to apply for US citizenship out of concern for US interests. They probably need to bolster their electoral numbers to gain the support of a few Senators and Representatives.

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OK, 90 is just a number. But, given that society seems obsessed with marking anniversaries, I expect that there will be lots of events planned, (maybe even some of them worthwhile!)

 

Perhaps there should be a separate thread on this in the "Genocide" section: proposals, ideas, listing of confirmed events, links, etc.

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Well, he probably isn't asking them to apply for US citizenship out of concern for US interests. They probably need to bolster their electoral numbers to gain the support of a few Senators and Representatives.

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Of course this is the objective, but come on, it is just plain silly for the FM of Turkey to propose that in public...pathetic...

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Of course this is the objective, but come on, it is just plain silly for the FM of Turkey to propose that in public...pathetic...

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Are you sure it is silly for the FM of Turkey? I would say it is usual for the FM of Turkey... relativistically speaking it isn't more silly than the usual for a FM of Turkey.

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I don´t disagree with you, at least not in what relates to Mr. Gul´s intended objectives. But this is once again a statement that is made purely for domestic consumption. Only Turks and Azeris believe this. They just make fools of themselves. That´s why it is a bad joke. Moreover, the foreign minister of a "great nation" asking Turks to become US citizens, come on what kind of idiotic strategy is that ? This is typical of the mentality of people that have been living for far too long in another dimension, removed from reality.

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I agree with you that it is also intended for internal consumption. However, this kind of statements frustrate Armenians. That's his target - to frustrate us on highest possible level of government (dispora organisation) and generate a hysterical reacion.

He is suggesting Turks to apply for citizenship to kind of "win with quantity". There are lot of Turks in Turkey and if some % of them moves to U.S. they can create a dispora, lobby and block us. However, he forgets that Jews have been doing that for them in the U.S. Congress even better than any Turks would ever do.

Simultaneously, by that he wants to "worn out" our resitance on the sub-conscious level. Many Armenians may potentially get hopeless after such a statement.

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