Stormig Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Actually, I got some pretty racy pics, too, except they're not online, thank goodness. Anyone wanna break into my computer? Sorry, I'm just bored from writing thousands of words. :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted June 22, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Actually, I got some pretty racy pics, too, except they're not online, thank goodness. Anyone wanna break into my computer? Sorry, I'm just bored from writing thousands of words. :| Feel free to email those to Sip & I as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Why would I selflessly give around what causes people hell? <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 That wasn't smart on my behalf to keep a racy picture in my web album. So I basically got what I deserve. I think at some point in panic I've called a friend who works in a different department and started screaming at him to check if he was able to view all of the photos. He confirmed and got to about my 3rd photo, it was a photo of a curvaceous tree, the rest turned into those familiar little "x'es". I don't think I've ever been so welcoming to that nasty sign that we get when the link is broken.  Why would I selflessly give around what causes people hell?  That would be my reason not to send THOTH or Sip my photos as well. I've been classified as a sinner by Sasun so I shall repent my sins and refrain from committing hellish acts. Sasun are you proud of me? Do I get to go to the "Pearly Gates" DO I? DO I? DO I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted June 22, 2004 Report Share Posted June 22, 2004 Sasun are you proud of me? I am quite proud of you  As to sharing your photoes, as soon as you found out, instead of panicking you should have just changed your password (and inform the folks that you were only trying to save them from hell if they complained) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted June 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Adrian Barnett I have a problem with is the idea that atheists do not believe in an afterlife or a "meaning" to life, therefore they can have no respect for life and have no problem with killing people. It's as if we watch these horrors on the evening news and either roll about laughing, or think "Great! Another worthless life freed from this bleak torment."  It may be stating the obvious, but it needs to be remembered that many wars, conflicts and persecutions throughout human history have been caused by religious belief of one sort or another. The idea that anyone who believes in a deity is physically incapable of performing any antisocial act is clearly ludicrous, and yet that is what the Religious Right seem to be pushing. If everyone believes in Jesus then there will instantly be no more crime, no more unhappiness, and I guess no more acne either.  A moment's thought should be enough to realise that, if anything, atheists should have more respect for life. We know that this is the only life we get, and we are incredibly lucky to be conscious and aware of the amazing world we live in. We know that if someone's life ends, then that's the end of them. No afterlife, no reincarnation, nothing.  Why on earth would we want to terminate someone's one and only chance at experiencing the pleasure of simply being alive?!?  To turn it round a bit, if you believe that people simply "move on" into an afterlife of some sort, why should that promote respect for life now? If someone dies, hey so what, they'll just go to Heaven and spend trillions of years in extreme bliss. If people really thought that, then a major road-accident should be met with something between indifference and joy. They've gone to Heaven and when I get there I'll see them again (theists generally seem to have no doubts that they and their family/friends are going to Heaven). If this life is but the blink of an eye compared to our life after death, then why do theists get so upset when it is ended?  How is teaching children that this life of a few decades is just a stepping stone to an afterlife of infinite duration and happiness going to instill in them a sense of respect for mortality?  Of course, being taught that your actions here determine your fate afterwards is intended to encourage people to be good, but doesn't that just come down to the idea of "Behave or be punished"? Is it better to be good because you want Heaven and fear Hell, or because you can see that this is the only chance we get at life and everyone deserves the right to enjoy it as much as possible for as long as possible?  Most people, regardless of their lifestyle, seem to think that they are definitely getting into Heaven. If they do something bad, it can always be rationalised away or repented for. If someone does think they're going to Hell, their family and friends will just rally round and talk them out of it, convincing them that God really forgives them as long as they're truly sorry.  Atheists don't have that luxury. We recognise that we must accept responsibility for our own actions and be accountable for them. We can't just pray a bit and then assure people that God has forgiven us - that's for televangelists and presidents.  Surely it's better to teach that this is the only life we get so make the world a better place and don't screw it up for yourself or others, than to teach that this life is insignificant compared with an eternity of bliss?  Which you, of course, will get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormig Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 (and inform the folks that you were only trying to save them from hell if they complained) That is superb! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anileve Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Why on earth would we want to terminate someone's one and only chance at experiencing the pleasure of simply being alive?!?  To turn it round a bit, if you believe that people simply "move on" into an afterlife of some sort, why should that promote respect for life now? If someone dies, hey so what, they'll just go to Heaven and spend trillions of years in extreme bliss. That eternal bliss is what gives me a hellish fear. How awful is the idea of souls floating around not able to indulge in wine, smoking, eating sweet food or pinching someone’s cheeks. That reminds me, I recently saw a painting of hell, where people were in a huge pile of snakes and fire. Considering this as their eternity wouldn't they sort of become immune to the pain? It's human nature to adapt to their environment. So the idea of heaven and hell sounds equally boring to me. Heck, give me reincarnation instead, I want to be a sinner forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 How awful is the idea of souls floating around not able to indulge in wine, smoking, eating sweet food or pinching someone’s cheeks.... Heck, give me reincarnation instead, I want to be a sinner forever. Actually that is what happens. Many souls spend a short time after death in a state called heaven, then they get a new life and rush back to earth to fulfill mundane desires like you are describing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 That is superb! It is good to save people from hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Actually that is what happens. Many souls spend a short time after death in a state called heaven, then they get a new life and rush back to earth to fulfill mundane desires like you are describing. LOL Bobo, I beg you pardon, I mean, Master Sri Sasunoy for such an affirmative tone would tend to suggest you are quite above the common of mortals, at least in terms of "spiritual" cognition. Or is there some materialistic explanation to this recent development? What have you been smoking lately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Well Toto, I know some things will throw you out of balance but please try to keep calm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 You have absolutely no right to call me Toto, Master Bobo. Light has not chosen Bobo to be its representative on earth, has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Oh, so you have a right to call me what you called me above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Well definitely yes for you claim to have seen the light, don't you? Why do take offence? I have no problem with Bobo whatsoever, actually. I just tend to be circumspect as a christian for I have read a few warnings about false Bobos. I actually think Master Bobo has good intents but this does not mean I should take his word as Truth and my not taking Bobo's word as truth doesn't imply I do not believe in light. If you don't believe me about the existence of passages regarding false Bobos, here is one which is rather harsh: Corinthians 2 11 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Well definitely yes for you claim to have seen the light, don't you? Did I claim? Not really. I have not realized God. Why do take offence? Why try to mock? I am not taking a personal offence, but it is quite disappointing to see someone mocking a true Master. I have no problem with Bobo whatsoever, actually. I just tend to be circumspect as a christian for I have read a few warnings about false Bobos. I actually think Master Bobo has good intents but this does not mean I should take his word as Truth and my not taking Bobo's word as truth doesn't imply I do not believe in light. If you don't believe me about the existence of passages regarding false Bobos, here is one which is rather harsh: There are false prophets, and there are true prophets, and there are ways to find out who is false and who is true. Remember Jesus was also called a false prophet and mocked and crucified. Corinthians 2 11 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. This passage tells that there are false apostles, etc., but does not tell us how to differentiate false from true. As in our past arguments, I hold that Jesus's words have absolute authority, but only Jesus's words as far as the Bible is concerned. There are other inspiring, truthful things in the Bible, but sorry, it was not Jesus who wrote all of the books in the Bible. Therefore I don't necessarily believe in everything that a passage in the Bible will say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted June 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Why try to mock? I am not taking a personal offence, but it is quite disappointing to see someone mocking a true Master. surely you mock.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THOTH Posted June 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 Well i finally found it...The Truth About Hell! http://www.av1611.org/hell.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Look everyone, I just found hell... It seems like it's frozen!! Theirs still hope for some people after all http://www.afunworld.com/content/20040623/pictures/11/si013.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpa Posted June 24, 2004 Report Share Posted June 24, 2004 Extra, you beat me to it. I was to suggest that hell is in Siberia, to prove the expression, ehne it is 100 degrees below zero: "It's cold as hell outside". Or another adage; "When hell freezes over". In fact hell is in two places, one is the Death Valley and the other the Dead Sea, in more ways than one. Remember that it rains fire and brimstone there too. I say; The hell with hell. Let's enjoy this garden of eden known as Earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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