vava Posted November 19, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Azat you are right in saying that today's PCs out perform current Macs. Hardware available for PCs has been developing at a much faster rate than hardware for Macs. Supply and demand, I suppose - but that is not necessarily the issue here. Let me reiterate what I said above: The average computer user would be better off with a Mac. Why?Because it's simple & intuitive to use. It takes a novice less time to get up and running on a Mac, than a PC. No complicated installs, no reboots, no playing with registries. I'm not saying that Mac doesn't offer advanced users the tools they need - I'm saying that with less knowledge and experience, you can do more with a Mac. For people just getting into computing, who want to perform a few basic tasks WITHOUT learning all the ins & outs of an entire OS, Mac is the perfect solution. Maybe now, with XP, windows is finally catching up - but there are still many things about XP that aren't immediately intuitive, especially for a novice. quote: Originally posted by Azat: if the MAC was SO much more superior to the PC the market would have followed the MAC and not the PC. Why do you think huge corporations install exclusively PC vs MAC. If MAC is so secure and easy to use and stable and this and that, why would huge corps not have a bigger effort to train and move their organizations to the MAC.Well, suppose none of us ever bought a beta VCR either. Beta's were superior to VHS, but we know which way the market went on that technology. Domino has made some excellent points concerning the Mac's worthiness as an instrument of innovation. I wholeheartedly agree. But innovation hasn't been Mac's only strength. Customer loyalty towards Apple is MUCH higher than for Microsoft. Why do you think that is? It certainly isn't bacause Apple has let it's customers down, time and time again. (only once or twice ) Both Domino and I have conceded that the Wintel machine has overwhelmed Mac as far as market penetration is concerned. We certainly can't argue otherwise. Neither of us has said that a Mac is SUPERIOR to a PC, it's just that the average user would be better off, and happier using a mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 19, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Barev again, My powerbook can 'sleep' for days, is that the equivalent of your hibernation, or standby? It takes roughly 20 seconds to 'wake'.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sip Posted November 19, 2002 Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 Come ON! You people don't even have a "right-click" !!!! I made the big mistake of telling Nairi to right-click once I think she's still mad at me over that one With hybernate, the OS or Bios (not sure which one) dumps all memory content and system status into a file on the hard disk and then the system turns completely OFF. That means you can remove batteries, unplug all power cords and there will be no problem. The next time you turn on the PC, it reads the entire file back into memory, reloads all status bits/registers and continues exactly from where you left off. With stand-by, the system is still "ON", but in a low-power sleep-state. If you unplug or remove the power source, you will lose everything. So vava, I'm not sure which one yours is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted November 19, 2002 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2002 We certainly DO have a right click! Thank-you.I'm right-clicking right now! (even if you're mouse has one button, all you have to do is hold it down for a second, and you get your context sensitive menu.) Mine is stand-by. It does use some (although not much) power. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azat Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Sip:...My laptop running XP, I keep hybernating on-and-off which means it goes for weeks before I actually reset it. Sip, is there a reason why you hibernate your PC and you don't go on Stand-by. I personally use Stand-by and it is much faster to come backup than hibernating. True it does use some power, but not enough to worry about. Do you have any good reasons for hibernating vs. stand-by? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellthecat Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 Yawn ....finally seeing Macs consigned to the oblivion of technological obsolesence will be a good thing if only to see the end of MAC vs PC arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fadi Posted November 20, 2002 Report Share Posted November 20, 2002 I almost forgot to answer Sip... Sip, yes the MAC has only one button, you laugh at that, but would you laugh as well to the fact that the incidents of the carpian tunnel are becoming more serious over years, and that this incident is very less frequent among MAC users, and this is directly linked to the fact that MAC mouses have only one button ? This is one amoung many other point that a PC could never beat a MAC A MAC is better for health then a PC, now try to beat that one, can you ? Just onces try a MAC mouse, place your finger on the only button, and tell me how much more you are confortable and how less pressure you feal. I think Microsoft should implament such option of allowing one botton option. [ November 20, 2002, 04:54 PM: Message edited by: Domino ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted November 21, 2002 Report Share Posted November 21, 2002 quote:Originally posted by vava:(even if you're mouse has one button, all you have to do is hold it down for a second, and you get your context sensitive menu.)That's not actually what I needed it for. I wasn't able to open a PDF-file on my browser, and this is what I would've had to do if I'd had Windows: quote:Originally posted by Sip:So my solution is to save the PDF to your disk first. If there is a link, you can right-click on the link and choose "Save Target As" and it'll ask you where you want to save it. Then you can simply open the file just like any other document on your computer ... using the stand-alone Acrobat reader (not in a browser).Instead, all I needed to do was to drag the link onto my desktop (finder)! Steve, you have no idea what you're talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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