google91201 Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 I would truly like to know everyones opinion before I give mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 I voted and my answer is no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 If replaced by something better (highly unlikely), most certainly yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 My vote was no, but what I mean is we need a referendum which will determine if he should be removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Since he is in command, don't you think the outcome would be slightly...biased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Yes Gurgen, somehow I assume that if they ever agree on referendum there will be concessions such as setting up a new election commision, amending some of the loopholes in the election code, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hye_Acher Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 (edited) I would truly like to know everyones opinion before I give mine. I don’t really care. I just want Armenians who want Kocharian to resign to point out A government that functions normally. We weren’t satisfied what Ter-Petrosian did so we kicked him out thinking Kocharian would be any better. So it wouldn’t make a bit of a difference if Kocharian is removed forever because we’ll never be satisfied with what we have we always sick for MORE that’s just how human mentality is. Everyone is fighting for their own pocket not for the people (society) and people are being brain washed by thinking their next leader will be better then the current one. Armenians in Armenia are easily influenced by this B.S Good Day!!! Edited April 15, 2004 by Hye_Acher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 I don’t really care. I just want Armenians who want Kocharian to resign to point out A government that functions normally. We weren’t satisfied what Ter-Petrosian did so we kicked him out thinking Kocharian would be any better. So it wouldn’t make a bit of a difference if Kocharian is removed forever because we’ll never be satisfied with what we have we always sick for MORE that’s just how human mentality is. Everyone is fighting for their own pocket not for the people (society) and people are being brain washed by thinking their next leader will be better then the current one. Armenians in Armenia are easily influenced by this B.S Good Day!!! Well "we" as in reffering to the people had very little to do with the actual booting of petrosian, and the replacing him with kocharian..... Democsracy is only a cover for what goes on in that government.. lol Well i said he needs to be removed, because he is under control himself.. i mean.. i know this might seem far fetched but it really isnt.. its how the government mostly functions in armenia.. and this is what i think... He is under control of a larger group.. call it the mafia call it whatever.. but he makes very little decision.. except to gaurd his home in the case of aprotest with tanks and soldiers.. lol./// But ofcourse, we must make sure it is someone the people appoint and not someone that will again take advantage of the position and make himself ri h and his friends.. caring very little for the actualy people/... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Yes Gurgen, somehow I assume that if they ever agree on referendum there will be concessions such as setting up a new election commision, amending some of the loopholes in the election code, etc. Oh, I'm sorry I didn't realize you were talking from an utopian point of view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasun Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 I didn't realize you were talking from an utopian point of view Thanks for reminding me of the reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoushik Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 My dear friends, those of you who voted that Kocharyan should be removed, who do you think should replace him? You surely have someone in mind, otherwise you wouldn't just blindly vote for Kocharyan's replacement just because you don't like him. Please speak up and let the rest of us know who you think should replace president Kocharyan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gevo27 Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 My dear friends, those of you who voted that Kocharyan should be removed, who do you think should replace him? You surely have someone in mind, otherwise you wouldn't just blindly vote for Kocharyan's replacement just because you don't like him. Please speak up and let the rest of us know who you think should replace president Kocharyan. well this is a veryyyy sticky situation i cant point to one person and say "he is good" but i can surely describe the characteristics he should have.. atleast.. he should care for armenia more than his wealth... so.. im not blindly saying kocharian should be removed just cause there isnt anyone i can name.. but im sure many people will do better than Kocharian for the people.. for armenia.. not fill his pockets... Well, since you said he should stay, then why is it that you think he is better in any way than.. perhaps Geghamyan, or the other guy that debated with him in the last elections (im not good with these names ) lol... anywho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyerenaser Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 Kocharian should leave. First of all there are thousands of people who didnt vote for him and dont like him. There are 7 political parties who have joined to form the coalition to get rid of him. The people dont want him so he should step down (like Ter-Petrossian, although I dont like Ter-Petrosian). Kocharian wants to protect his position and he will do ANYTHING, even if it means beating up elderly women, to keep his post. Lets look at what he has done: 1. Sold the cognac factory to France 2. Sold the trolly lines to Iran 3. Sold the Nuclear Power Plant to Russia 4. Ordered the attack on 2,000 protestors 5. Highered thugs to attack journalists 6. Has ties to the mafia and placed well known mafia leaders in government posts. 7. Rigged the election in Armenia (u can get all info from www.armenialiberty.org (listen to the audio and check the archives) This is why we say KOCHARIAN HERATSEER!!! tell me your opinions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
google91201 Posted April 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 I'm an Armenian-American and I truly care what happens in Armenia. I have fallowed the current political crisis in Armenia. This crisis has build up when Mr. Kocharian rigged the national elections. I know this from media reports, witnesses and the election observers (the OSCE, Council of Europe) them selves said that the elections were rigged. That alone is enough for a president to be removed from office because he didnt get elected. ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT! But it doesnt stop there. Alot of bad things have happened under the Kocharian Adminsitration. * Many Politically Motivated Killings * Human Rights Abuses (The Worse Ever in the Armenian History) * Banning Freedom of the Press (T.V. channels that spoke against Kocharian are banned.) * Selling crucial Armenian resources to others such as the power plants, phone lines, different companies. (What makes me more mad is that it's being sold to Russia.) * The Karabahk Conflict is still not solved. * Kocharian is not for Constituional Reform. For example he doesnt want to change the current law that gives the president the power to appoint/remove the Mayor of Yerevan, the Police Chief, the governors of differents provinces. 9I wonder why?) *This man has violated the Constitution of Armenia many times for example, banning opposition rallies which under the Armenian Consitution Under Chapter 2 Section 26 it is permitted. Also this man has violated Chapter 2 Section 22 whcih says everyone has the right to move around the republic. Kocharian has also violated that. All this is enough for a president to be removed in a democratic civil society. It may be different under the Kocharian Regime. As the German Ambassidor to Armenia said the polics beatings of the peacful protestors would have never accured in Germany. If Kocharian really got elected by the majority of the people, why is he not accepting a Nationa Referendum on him? He says it's uncostitutional. But it's not unconstitutional to beat the hell out of the people. Thats why I say he needs to be removed. Not just because I don't like him. It's very simple I'm for the intrest of my fatherland. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-=VAHE=- Posted April 17, 2004 Report Share Posted April 17, 2004 Well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Didn't he abolish the death penalty? I think that's about the only good thing he did while in office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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