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I dont remember how they tasted in Armenia,, without a doubt the best!! but, I know where you can find Piroshky that will leave your mind knumb of its yumminess!!!! its in Hollywood, a small bakery owned by some Jew my dad knows, i worked near that store for 2 years, and all i ate for 2 years for lunch was 2 piroshkies.. AHHH man.. im telling you.. they were sooo good.. LOL.. infact.. i want some right now!! i wanna go to hollywood,, i need a good excuse.. lol...

 

hey, we should have a piroshky party... looks like most of us love it :)

 

And Azat that pic of ararat with the church.. my Dad has a few taken from the "illegal" grounds.. lol.. where the soldiers wouldnt let you take any pics.. but my dad bribed em and he got to take some amazing pics, with ararat valley and.. wow.. it was great.. and he has pics very similar to the one you posted.. too bad they all on slides!!!!! lol...

gevo ur soo funny lol..i like ponchiks more then piraskis aziz jan lol ;)

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Azat is totally right about the piroshki, my gran always told me that you never know what stuff they mixed in it! "It could be cat meat". But they are soooooo tasty when you are hungry.

But there are also hachapuri with cheese (also so greasy). But i love the open one with egg (oh no! I have a craving now), and then you break off the hot bread from the sides and dip it into chess-egg mass.

I'm hungry... :(

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i have made a promise to myself that i will go back to armenia as soo nas i can- when i see these pictures- my heart yearns to breath the crisp air and feel the mountain breeze gently sway through my hair....its such a weird feelinmg, when you get to a certain point in your life that you realize that youve missed out on so much- speaking of living in armenia during your chikldhood and adolesence- like ages 0-at least 15.... whe i see these pictures and hear your words (esp. evelina's astounding use of imagry) it takes me back way bac kto when i was a lil girl in armenia running around carelessly-

 

that springs forth a memory- i have to share it....

every spring when i see cherry blossoms, it reminds me of my childhood days in gyumri--- in our backyard we had a cherry tree and a few other fruit trees and what not... nad i have this vivid memory of when a my friends, cousins and I would sneak out of the house and into the yard and climb the tree and sit atop the branchess for hours on end, picking the fruits, and shareing innocent childhood giggles...and one day i remember when spring had just dawned, and the cherry clossoms were sprouting, I went out in the backyard and picked the blossoms and thought it would be nice to "cook" them with my toy pots and pans- i ended up really "cooking them" lol as-- in armenia we had those "pechkh" heaters where the top was used as a stovetop also- and i placed the pot (not plastic lol) atop the pechkh and acted like i was coooking- and forgot it there- and my parents realized there was something going on when they were swayed in by the smell of cherry blossoms- "boiling" - anyway what i wanted to share was that everytime i smell cherry blossoms or see cherries it reminds me of my younger years- so full of innocence and fun... i wish i could go back ... :( those were definately considered "a slice of heaven" i just wish circumstances were different and that if i have children in the future id be able to raise them in armenia- but times change- so do people- and you dont realize what you had until you loose it...

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you guys are sooo lucky :cry: wish i had memories of hayastan...so lucky...we've always lived in a country...countries...where it wasn't ours, :cry: always the minority...and always strived to keep our identity alive and not "get lost" and absorbed in "their" culture...they drilled this into our brains since kindergarten!!! sad to see how that is not the case in the U.S. !! great difference in mindset and priorities here...sometimes makes me wonder what will become of us...of you and me... will anyone remember armenians 500 years from now?? will they read our literature and listen to our music?....or will we be just another dead language hanging off of a lonely branch like anatolian and sanskrit...etc.????

 

i still remember to this day my 92 year old grandfather sitting in front of the tv...i was 12 or so at the time...and he was weeping silently as he was watching the armenian programming on the 24th of april...how can all that passion and emotion and pain and grief just go to waste and be forgotten?? i hope it doesn't...and that we keep our culture and ourselves alive... my only consolation is knowing that in another world/dimension he's happy and at peace knowing that i turned out like he hoped i would....conscious of my hye identity :)

 

i hope he can read this with his spiritual eyes... :)

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you guys are sooo lucky :cry: wish i had memories of hayastan...so lucky...we've always lived in a country...countries...where it wasn't ours, :cry: always the minority...and always strived to keep our identity alive and not "get lost" and absorbed in "their" culture...they drilled this into our brains since kindergarten!!! sad to see how that is not the case in the U.S. !! great difference in mindset and priorities here...sometimes makes me wonder what will become of us...of you and me... will anyone remember armenians 500 years from now?? will they read our literature and listen to our music?....or will we be just another dead language hanging off of a lonely branch like anatolian and sanskrit...etc.????

 

i still remember to this day my 92 year old grandfather sitting in front of the tv...i was 12 or so at the time...and he was weeping silently as he was watching the armenian programming on the 24th of april...how can all that passion and emotion and pain and grief just go to waste and be forgotten?? i hope it doesn't...and that we keep our culture and ourselves alive... my only consolation is knowing that in another world/dimension he's happy and at peace knowing that i turned out like he hoped i would....conscious of my hye identity :)

 

i hope he can read this with his spiritual eyes... :)

Armenians in the diaspora are a dying breed. It is like the Armenian diaspora in the Crimea and Eastern Europe that eventually dissolved, it's only a matter of time.

 

I think of Armenians as having lived beyond what they were set to live at, sort of like stabbing someone with a knife and dying a slow death, living for a month or two with the wound.

 

People get angry at me for being so "pessimistic" but it's just based on what I've reviewed and what I reached myself. They keep telling me "Armenians have been around forever, even when people like you kept saying they would dissove", but they fail to see that they are comparing two different times. The world of the past is not the world of the present, of interconnected markets, and corporate globalization, it is a different world now which old and small cultures merge into and powerful cultures.

 

But then again I could be wrong.

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Armenians in the diaspora are a dying breed. It is like the Armenian diaspora in the Crimea and Eastern Europe that eventually dissolved, it's only a matter of time.

 

I think of Armenians as having lived beyond what they were set to live at, sort of like stabbing someone with a knife and dying a slow death, living for a month or two with the wound.

 

People get angry at me for being so "pessimistic" but it's just based on what I've reviewed and what I reached myself. They keep telling me "Armenians have been around forever, even when people like you kept saying they would dissove", but they fail to see that they are comparing two different times. The world of the past is not the world of the present, of interconnected markets, and corporate globalization, it is a different world now which old and small cultures merge into and powerful cultures.

 

But then again I could be wrong.

i dont get it. r u suggesting that the classes shouldnt or cant mix??

 

like in old times where a peasent was a peasant and married a peasant.??? and only royalty can interact with royalty??

 

Your not clear... by saying armenians have lived and reached more than they have set to live... than thats a shallow mind... i havent lived past what i am "set" to live.. i think i have misunderstood you.. explain yourself please...

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i dont think it has to do with classes gevo~ i think its more of the fact that the armenian as we know it - the culture itself is slowly dying or blending in with other cultures- and what hes gettin at is that some people disagree with the above- by justifying that "Weve been through all this, we can survive even longer"- hes saying that this is a bad assumption - that parst things predict future survival- due to differing circumstances and issues we face nowadays compared with that opf the past---

 

sorry if im wrong- but this is how i interpreted your post~ all apologies if any misinterpretation took place mook.

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i dont get it. r u suggesting that the classes shouldnt or cant mix??

 

like in old times where a peasent was a peasant and married a peasant.??? and only royalty can interact with royalty??

 

Your not clear... by saying armenians have lived and reached more than they have set to live... than thats a shallow mind... i havent lived past what i am "set" to live.. i think i have misunderstood you.. explain yourself please...

 

I'm not suggesting that at all, in fact what I am suggesting is that THAT is precisely the historic cyle, rather the cycle of history. It is an inevitability.

 

What I meant to say is that Armenians were to be "wiped out" or "dissolved" in the past, in that they lived beyond when their time was up, and this is it, the sort of "last breaths".

 

Boy I can't wait for the "we have been around for thousands of years" bandwagon to rear its ugly head here.

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Nice kakaches Azat I saw them on the way to Sevan in 2002 early June when I was there, so prety indeed, you know after 20 year absence ...

Edo jan, I was there in June of 2001 for the first time in 20 years and had many of the same feelings as you did. ANd did actually see many kakach(poppy) fields all over like a huge red carpet in the middle of a green valley

 

Off Topic: if any of you come to CA in April and May, drive up to Gorman or Lancaster area. California(orange and pink) poppies are abundant there and you will see many fields like so. Very pretty indeed.

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hey i like kakachner- those along with tulips and (water) lillies are my favorite flowers- btw Azat jan- very nice photograph of the field of flpwers- I wish i was there----aaaahhhhhhh
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And Edo jan, that is exactly what I am afraid of, to return and not to see familiar places and buldings there. I've heard that it all completely changed, for the worse, and my street and my buiding don't look the same at all. Saddening. :(

Ani jan, I think you should go back and visit and not be afraid of the changes(there is good and bad).

 

I know I have said this many times, and am sorry for repeating it, but have been to some 30+ countries throughout Europe and Americas. Traveling in Armenian was the most amazing trip that I have EVER made. EVER

 

If you are really afraid and want me to come with you and to hold your hand you know where to find me. :naughty:

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I'm not suggesting that at all, in fact what I am suggesting is that THAT is precisely the historic cyle, rather the cycle of history. It is an inevitability.

 

What I meant to say is that Armenians were to be "wiped out" or "dissolved" in the past, in that they lived beyond when their time was up, and this is it, the sort of "last breaths".

 

Boy I can't wait for the "we have been around for thousands of years" bandwagon to rear its ugly head here.

ok, i thaught i understood you wrong.. roger that,.. got it

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What I meant to say is that Armenians were to be "wiped out" or "dissolved" in the past, in that they lived beyond when their time was up, and this is it, the sort of "last breaths".

That is so depressing! Now that you have said it, I see it.

But on the other hand there are still a lot of Armenian comunities around the world and a lot of other nationals become "Armenian" (if you see what i mean) by constantly being in that comunity. I know a few people who actually became "Armenised".

Though, your comment depresses me since I do feel that you may be right Mouse. It is inevidable. (i just totally contradicted myself didn't I?)

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That is so depressing! Now that you have said it, I see it.

But on the other hand there are still a lot of Armenian comunities around the world and a lot of other nationals become "Armenian" (if you see what i mean) by constantly being in that comunity. I know a few people who actually became "Armenised".

Though, your comment depresses me since I do feel that you may be right Mouse. It is inevidable. (i just totally contradicted myself didn't I?)

Yes you did, but having "communities" is pointless to the point I made since I'm dealing precisely with these "communities" you are talking about and their eventual dissolution.

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OK guys, great thread. I just read the whole thing and kept smiling throughout. Although at the end it got a bit depressing.

 

I just wana post some pictures that I took before coming to the US, in summer of 2000. I am sooo sorry I didn't take any of my native Yerevan. But here are some of Garni and Geghard.

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Okay how many of you remember your first day of school. The very first day when you were suppose to start school. I remember mine. I hated it. for months I use to tell my teachers that one of these days I was going to find a bomb and blow up the school. I was looking for a pic of how we all use to line up in front of the teachers and wait for roll call and walk into the cold and god awful room separated from our parents amongst 20-30 other snot face kids. "I was sure better than the rest I use to think." Not much after that day(about 25 years :)) I realized what a great time that was. :)

 

I was always a good student(mom made sure I was) but was always mischievous. I like to apologize to all my teachers for all the crazy things I did. I use to go to school on "Shapat oriaks" and put "mastika" floor wax on the boards. That way the teachers could not write on the blackboards, but they looked "sparking" clean. I use to take matches with me to school and stick them in the keyholes of classrooms so that the teachers could not open up the doors and allow us to get in the class to study. I use to tie a string from little girls pony tails(you know the exact place there they had the ribbon so they would not feel me tying the string) and would point to the teacher to ask them a question just so that these girls would scream when they tried to stand up. I use to get the kids to skip class, but would never get in trouble myself as I excelled in most subject(in the old days I was a bit smart). ehh, did so many fun things in school

 

how many of you remember the school lunches. The slice of bologna on a dry rye bread. Did they ever give us caviar. i seem to think they did once in a while, but I could be wrong. been a long time.

 

Am I so nostalgic because I am getting too old?

 

Picture of Cascade

http://www.azat.net/temp/cascad.jpg

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by azat "how many of you remember the school lunches. The slice of bologna on a dry rye bread. Did they ever give us caviar. i seem to think they did once in a while, but I could be wrong. been a long time."

 

caviar ? Anushusht Barekam amen or

menak te Asetrina / bluga caviar cher iyl Smbuki -

de gites eli en vro mi qani angam kervatsa yerevum :)

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how many of you remember the school lunches. The slice of bologna on a dry rye bread. Did they ever give us caviar. i seem to think they did once in a while, but I could be wrong. been a long time.

Yeah, Azat, I remember my school lunches.

 

The first semester in first grade we got a whole "bulky" with a glass of milk. The first half of the second semester we got a half "bulky" and towards the end it was a quarter. I'm not kidding. The second grade we had to buy our lunch or bring it from home. And the teachers repeatedly reminded those few parents who could afford a salami or bologna to not pack it in their kids' lunches since the rest of the kids would not be eating a salami but would forever long for it... Oh, and chocolate candy was not allowed. Of course, I'm telling of the '91, '92, '93 year in Gyumri. But I think everyone experienced this more or less in every school throughout Armenia at that time.

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Ikra krasnaia - 100 rubley, Ikra chornaia - 300 rubley, Ikra....violetovaia -1500 rubley!

 

Eto kak?

 

Nu, kak! Ruchnaia rabota! Kajdui sharik otdelno krasili! :)

 

BTW, I still have a small jar of Beluga in my fridge for very special guests. Meaning, guest that can appretiate it! :)

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I apologize. I better not post here again since my only memories of Armenia would be of negative experiences. I don't want to spoil this beautiful thread. I love Armenia - I just happened to be there when it went through one of the worst years in its history. Of course Armenia is better now and keeps on improving, and I'm positive that I'll live to see Armenia becoming one of the best countries with the highest living standards in the world. :)
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