Anonymouse Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Anyone into it? It is considered in the realm of electronic, but its more like beats like hip hop, but at a faster pace, and depending or not if youre listening to atmospheric dnb you can even have some trancy tunes incorporated into it. My current favorite is of course none other than LTJ Bukem, with MC Conrad and even so far as DJ Shadow. This is a bit of atmospheric dnb with some spiritual beats and rap, mostly very lyrical and stylized as if its poetry. Really awesome stuff, gets you in the mood for just about anything as well as making you think. Get the Progression Sessions, trust me, you can't go wrong. http://www.discogs.com/artist/LTJ_B...uring_MC_Conrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtraHye Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 It says page not found Mouse Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Try this. http://www.discogs.com/artist/LTJ_Bukem_Featuring_MC_Conrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel4hope Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 cool yet another world of music to explore.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 For all the newest releases and DJ mixes: http://www.breakbeat.co.uk/ For 24/7 dnb on the radio: http://www.bassdrive.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Mouse, you really got me digging into my collection again :) I haven't properly listened to DNB in more than 4 years. Last time I went to a party was probably in 1999... Anyway, I actually have Volume 2 of the Progression Sessions, i.e. Logical Progression mixed by Blame with MC Conrad. I tried to listen to that just now and it sounds so old somehow. I can't seem to get into it as much as I used to anymore... I still really like some of Shadow's Endtroducing though. Great stuff on that. But it's not really what I would consider dnb. I guess I like the more hardcore stuff: Bad Company, Ram Trilogy, Dom and Roland, Ed Rush, Roni Size etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev-mard Posted February 13, 2004 Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Better than straight techno, my English mates got me into it when i was overseas, but overall I wouldn't like purchase any, or go to a club that strictly played Drum N' Bass. But it's danceable, and can be tolerated during live party atmostpheres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 Mouse, you really got me digging into my collection again :) I haven't properly listened to DNB in more than 4 years. Last time I went to a party was probably in 1999... Anyway, I actually have Volume 2 of the Progression Sessions, i.e. Logical Progression mixed by Blame with MC Conrad. I tried to listen to that just now and it sounds so old somehow. I can't seem to get into it as much as I used to anymore... I still really like some of Shadow's Endtroducing though. Great stuff on that. But it's not really what I would consider dnb. I guess I like the more hardcore stuff: Bad Company, Ram Trilogy, Dom and Roland, Ed Rush, Roni Size etc. Yea I got very much into Roni Size and Freaky Flow as well. The Logical Progression are pretty old, or at least some of them. LTJ and MC Conrad have been around for a while now. Just get the Progression Sessions, you will surely like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2004 http://mars.walagata.com/w/tantrix/droppinbombs.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I never liked Roni Size much - I was much more into DJ Food, Amon Tobin and some other stuff on the Ninja Tune Label in general. But I though DnB was dead !?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I was much more into DJ Food, Amon Tobin and some other stuff on the Ninja Tune Label in general. What do you think of Jazzmatazz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 I saw them live at some point (it's not very clear in my mind - maybe in Toronto, or NYC) - thought that their live show was a bit hoaky but good.... although I'm not a big fan of Guru as a vocalist. Haven't heard anything recently. On a similar note, I saw the Herbaliser live twice - they put on a great show! I had a great time, and much enjoyed the music... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 14, 2004 Report Share Posted February 14, 2004 although I'm not a big fan of Guru as a vocalist. Agreed. I like the idea of jazz and hip-hop fusion though. We just need a better vocalist On a similar note, I saw the Herbaliser live twice - they put on a great show! Lucky you! I never saw them live (or at least can't remember -- maybe at a festival, not sure...), but I do like their music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vava Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 The Hip-hop/jazz fusion started in the late eighties (ie. before hip-hop was actually hip-hop) but most of the time ended with horribly bad repetitive vocals combined to some half-ass horns & a basic hip-hop beat. I always though that there was high potential to bring together innovative sounds (as jazz was, and hip-hop purported to be at the time) Overtime, there have been a few that have attempted this mix with marginal success - but I still haven't heard anything that really moved me.... I think that jazz composition is much too complex/sophisticated to be properly harnessed by the majority of rap/pop/hip-hop artists (and i say this with no prejudice). I think far more successful fusions occur without jazz, but rather more roots oriented (and consequently simpler) musical forms. Reggae&DnB - Dancehall&hip-hop, Reggae&Soul, Funk&Hip-hop and so forth. The only examples of solid jazz & hip-hop fusion I've ever heard are actually just 'intelligent' use of sampling - where that original music was so incredible that it stands the test of time, and end up carrying the new remix. And then it's not even Hip-hop... See the Verve Remixed series where the music is actually composed/performed by the likes of Dizzy Gillespie, Wayne Shorter, Hugh Masekela (who's fabulous BTW!) etc... and then just remixed into 'electronica' tunes. Ah, alas, it's still pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted February 15, 2004 Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 (edited) yeah - drums'n'bass is pretty good to chill out to - but I prefer to Trance/House when Im totally fokked (and most other times) Edited February 15, 2004 by Accelerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 15, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2004 Then you haven't heard real drum n bass. Trance and house are entirely played out for me and lacking the umph of dnb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 You should try hardcore Anon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 You should try hardcore Anon I agree I think they both offer a good selection of excellent beats, but you have to like it and be able to get into it. House and Trance have a very different connotation here. Hardcore is mostly called techno or sometimes deep-house, even though these are each their own categories. House is generally considered commercial, what you hear on commercial radio stations. Trance is "chill out" music, but Techno is hardcore underground beats. Gabber, the Dutch version of hardcore, is a whole different category as well. Personally I can only listen to a few minutes of that... As for DNB or breakbeat, Accel, I like your use of the word "chill out" I usually have to leave the venue to "chill out" Here's something especially for you http://www.acceleratedculture.com/ACMAIN.htm Go to games (upper right hand corner) and play Pacman!!!! God, it's been a long time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurgen Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 I don't really like stuff like trance. If you play beat music, you have to play it hard and loud, or else it's no fun (I reccomend DJ Promo ), though I agree some songs are specially intended to listen to with a few XTC pills (not that I've tried or will, leave that to the 'Sjonnies') Techno is a bit better, but not the full potential. Gabber is pretty funny, but most of the time kind of mindless. It used to be a whole culture, but now a lot of gabbers are becoming commercial and are going over to happy hardcore (why anyone would want to be happy from that music I don't know, I mostly listen to hardcore before a tennis game to become agressive ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 You should try hardcore Anon I don't like hardcore. It has no umph just for e tards who think they are cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 http://stat.discogs.com/R/175277-001.jpg LTJ Bukem featuring MC Conrad - Progression Sessions 8 - Live in London This here is good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nairi Posted February 16, 2004 Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Techno is a bit better, but not the full potential. Good techno is excellent, imo. In fact, that's where underground dnb/breakbeat originated from. Every other dnb (i.e. garage, jungle etc.) ultimately came from house and trance. I tried to find a good track on the net by Bad Company as an example, but couldn't find any. All the good ones on breakbeat.co.uk don't seem to work anymore, at least for me. But if you can get your hands on "Nitrous" or "Nine" (the originals, not the remixes!!) or any other similar tracks, you'll know what I consider good DNB :) And yes, Gurgen, I completely agree: you have to listen to it loud and preferably mixed live by a competent DJ. This isn't "chill out" music Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2004 Look at it this way, dnb/breakbeats are a higher improvement, an evolution in the chain. Some of DJ Shadow is cool. I'm listening to some Makotio now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerated Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 yes Nairi the music at that site is pretty cool - but you cant dance to it so not its up there with techno/dance/trance, but still just good to chill out too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymouse Posted February 17, 2004 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 yes Nairi the music at that site is pretty cool - but you cant dance to it so not its up there with techno/dance/trance, but still just good to chill out too Apparently you don't know how to dance to it. Ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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